Sony expects to immediately recoup PS4 hardware loss

I'm looking through all the comments and I'm seeing a lot of PC gamers talk about how graphics are so much better...well duh. We as console gamers already know this, but graphics don't make the game. They make them more pleasing to the eye, yes. It's all about GAMEPLAY and STORY. Nothing more nothing less. I'll be getting a ps4. Sony has improved everything and added on what the ps3 does not have. So I'll be benefiting more from ps4 than Xbox one or PC IMO. I will however get an Xbox One in the future when I see games that appeal to me.

$60 every unit sold sony cant keep losing money like this.5 billion loss on the PS3 and 2 billion loss on the PS vita.Now $60 loss on every PS4 sold.Glad i stayed with Xbox and went with the X1 making money from day one.Good chance this could be sonys last console

For the Winghers - I have a High end PC - Every COD I've ever bought was PS3
Thats where my friends were, thats where I play with them, PS3.

PC owners - I get it. - If thats where your friends are playing, but most of my social gaming is on PS3, (COD, BF, Mortal Kombat, Tekken, Street Fighter; Whatever.

Consoles are for the in-between to the casual pro Gamers. Most decent gamers.

Most of your friends will have a console, 90% of you will have the same console and play at similar times, screw the Console War - everyone has decided already, and guess what? you all have PCs and decent internet already, so just do what what ever you want. Specs means nothing if your playing by yourself, and all of your mates are having a better time playing the game on a different format.

See, people? The hardware in the PS4 is just as expensive as a good PC. Instead of just dropping that extra cash and getting a superior machine, you pay a smaller price, get the box, then pay the difference over time with a *mandatory* subscription and per-game licensing fees anyway. It's essentially a mortgage on your gaming system. You might even end up paying more than it's worth over time.

Sony isn't going to make the same mistake they made with the PS3. It took them years and years to break even with that thing.

at lunch i wil get one game ps+ and ps camera my system is already paid full at my gamestop plus im sitll have my ps3 to sell it to buy at least another 3 games...

don't care.. as long as it's cheaper than other next gen console, I dunno bout PC cause ever PC I used for gaming is also used for my bro homeworks and my dad's program...

Congratulations $ony and M$. I used to be an unbiased person who could judge the actual games on their own merits, but you have made a PC Elitist Fanboy prick out of me. Gaze into my wallet and hunger, and despair.

I don't get it, so much BS on the console making profit or making loss. They might allow for loss if many immediately start playing the PS4. Many will. Yes, the Playstation plus is a good buy (much better then the 360 gold). there are issues, but so far none remain negative for Sony. Sony remained true to the gamers and more will come our (the gamers way). next step will be up to the game developpes to bring out something more appealing then an Assasins Creed 5 riddled with glitches we've had since Assasins creed 2 (we can dream, can't we?)

PS4 is in the position to open up new levels of gaming, but will the developer do that or rely on marketing to wordplay fake innovation? Time will tell!

Lets see low-end CPU with a mid range GPU... Don't break the bank over there Sony.

These "next gen" consoles are a rip off if they didn't require online services they wouldn't be too bad but tack on $50-60 a year(if they don't raise the price at some point) and they start to get costly for low end specs.

The message this generation seems to be go PC...

It has no Kinect. What else in there can make it more expensive then XBOX One.

Sony is pissed about the money there about to loss, hope you buy the stand too lol. I wouldn't put two cent on that system until Naughty Dog releases a game. And it is based on old pc specs, go buy a gtx780 and then tell me what u think

Cost to manufacture? What about the cost to ship, the cost to market, and the cost to support?

They're not off-the-shelf parts, they're parts based on upcoming PC parts.

WiiU profits with 1 game sale, which probably is a lie, see no reason for it to cost that much to make even with the Gamepad. PS4 is much better value, even if Nintendo is telling the truth.

Launch PS3 20GB cost $805.85 to make, loss of $306.85 per sale.
Launch PS3 60GB cost $840.35 to make, loss of $241.35 per sale.

Launch 360 Premium cost $323.30 to make, profit of $76.70 per sale. Consumers ripped off.

They should give us the PS4 for free, because after they will make millions selling the games!!!

no one sub subscription @ 50 bucks and a game @ 60 bucks your right up there with the xbox one. So the question is Microsoft making a profit or are they losing aswell?

BF4 or Watch Dogs? Don't care much for the first party titles.

I hope it'll be okay if I buy two launch titles, instead of getting a PS + subscription :P.

I really hope this ps plus requirement means they'll boost their server performances.