Sony expects to immediately recoup PS4 hardware loss

@PhoenixArisal @bunchanumbers @Master_Overlord @WheelerJared Nintendo is doing better. They already have over 33 million 3DSs sold and have already sold over 106 million 3DS games. And the majority of those are first party games. Sony can't say that about their Vita or their PSP.

While Wii U sales are slowly increasing their 3DS sales are keeping them afloat. Sony can't say that about the ps3 and vita. Nintendo never lost 6 billion on a console either. Nintendo more or less has been profitable even during their darkest days.

You are right though. You can't put Nintendo and Sony in the same league. Nintendo would destroy them profit wise.

@bunchanumbers @PhoenixArisal @Master_Overlord @WheelerJared You are comparing cats and dogs, here. First of all, Super Mario Bros is a kids/classic Nintendo game, which is basically the sole purpose of buying a WiiU. Of course the people who buy the WiiU will also buy new Super Mario. However, The Last Of Us is not Sony's only horse to bet on.

Honestly, I don't even care about Sony, but to try to compare Nintendo with Sony and Microsoft is a ridiculous thought. Nintendo is barely even able to sell it's consoles at this point, while the titans of gaming, such as Sony and Microsoft are selling out of all the preorders they allow (Sony more-so, admittedly). You yourself stated that with only 4% of their console owners buying TLOU, they sold about 1.5X as many copies as WiiU's NSMBU sold with 59% of their console owners buying it (Your numbers). The reason Sony and MS sell so many more consoles is there is a lot more diversity in their games. Nintendo has generally the same fan-base, while Sony has varied fan-bases. This would account for the difference in percentages.

I like Nintendo, and everything, but they are not even in the same league as Sony at this point. Don't try to pretend that they are doing better.

@PhoenixArisal @bunchanumbers @Master_Overlord @WheelerJared According to wiki NSMBU has sold 2.15 million copies and TLOU has sold 3.4 million copies. Its not that far off. 59% attach rate vs 4% for TLOU. As sales of the Wii U increases the numbers will change but in the end their first party games outsell Sonys. The highest selling Sony game of all time is a Gran Turismo game that sold 15 million copies.

@bunchanumbers @Master_Overlord @WheelerJared That's because WiiU hardly has any games. Of course most people will buy the same ones.

@Master_Overlord @bunchanumbers @WheelerJared ? by all means. 59% of all Wii U owners own NSMBU. I doubt that there is any Sony first party game that has that attach rate. Hell almost all of nintendos games have at least a 12-15% attach rate. Games like Mario Kart Wii has sold 30+million copies. Nintendo knows their hardware and know how to make games for it. Sony doesn't do that with their first party games even though they are the guys that built the hardware.

@bunchanumbers @WheelerJared Oh so you wana talk about Nintendo now? Okay lets looks at Wii U...

@WheelerJared their first party games don't sell on the scale that nintendo does. Because of that their profits aren't as big. Look at TLOU it isn't even owned by 10% of all PS3 owners. There's some other numbers too if you want to see more.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/The+Bowels+of+Trogdor/sony-is-flirting-with-death-and-death-is-showing-interest-261402.phtml

When does losing A billion not hurt? Lol. All those changes are simple cause and effect. The fact is Sony is ready for ps4. And they already know how many units they have sold on orders they are just not telling. Because u know who will follow suit and try to beat what they say. I will say look at the posting about then pushing for 5 million units by March!!!! That's 6 months. That's nearly 840, 000 units a month

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Sony doesn't only make gaming platforms. SCEA is a huge electronics company. Even if the playstation is losing money, it doesn't mean sony as a whole is. Also, playstation makes a lot of money through first party games. The ps3 didn't actually lose that much money. It made a lot of revenue from the large community buying games.