The Walking Dead's Falling Ratings Defended By Producer

@spartanx169x: 100% right on that.....i've said a few times if they were smart when they took the prison they should have fortified it and even turned half of it into a death trap they can control and kill intruders....or wear em down for easy kills....that's what i would have done, plus I would have built suppressors for all the guns so they can shoot and not be heard over long distances allowing em to have target practice every day and keep their marksmanship up....that or reinforce the fences and just allow the walkers to amass so they serve as a barrier....

there's tons they could have done.....

@MJ12-Conspiracy: I'm not big into medieval/fantasy shows, but I have watched GoT since the beginning. The first few seasons I'm not even sure why I watched it. But with every season, it has just gotten better and better, and last season you finally start getting RAPID payoffs for all the time you put in earlier. You start seeing things you never thought you'd see on television, or in movies for that matter, and the drama is so intense! I cannot wait to see how they wrap this up, especially given the budget. To have a story of this caliber, to have showrunners who know their obligation to the fans, and to have the budget to make it all happen is just extraordinary.

Vince Gilligan with Breaking Bad is the closest thing I think I've seen to a showrunner knowing exactly what the fans wanted, and who had a smart writing staff to make it happen, even though they were writing a lot of it on the fly. I think it's as close to a perfect show as can be made really. It fulfilled every expectation. GoT I think, especially since the last season, is VERY close to this, but what separates it from Breaking Bad is that it has the benefit of having been pretty much written in total before the show was even made. The showrunners at least know where the story was supposed to end. Because of this, when you watch the most recent season, and then you go back and re-watch season one, it's just so much deeper because you can see how these LITTLE events can drastically affect what happens later. With Breaking Bad, they cleverly found ways to use earlier events to impact later ones. I think that's pretty rare with most shows though. Gilligan & Co. just knew that was important and that it would make the story that much richer if they could do it, and they found ways to do it.

I definitely urge you to get caught up. I think you'll be glad you did (OK, maybe not - I actually like Trek Discovery lol). Season seven was just epic. And again, this from someone who wasn't totally on board until later.

@MJ12-Conspiracy: GoT is still quality TV for me. I hear book fans complain online all the time, but never anyone IRL. Breaking Bad was my all time favorite show until about season 4 or 5 of Game of Thrones, which overtook it for me. It will end its legacy on a good note too because it is telling a full story from beginning to end with an end in mind.

Walking Dead just sort of meanders around and tells the story of life in the apocalypse. There is no end goal in mind, so it will never feel like a complete story.

@MJ12-Conspiracy: To my knowledge, GOT stats have been record-breaking this last season. It is true that a lot of people have been complaining about that too, mainly because the storytelling has become rushed and that the dialogue and plot has been simplified in order to do more fan service and epic scenes of battle and the like.

Personally I still enjoy GOT very much though I'm not the fanatic-type to rewatch every episode 20 times and spend hours theorizing on things that not even the writers actually bothered with.

TWD, however, has become rather soapy and the only interesting bits are in the beginning of the season and the end, and even there some things are sooooooo slow, it almost makes you skip through some scenes.

@MJ12-Conspiracy: They are... but it might be because next season is promised to be the last one, and many who have already invested 7 years in this show what to follow it up.

That said, Season 7 had same flaws as TWD - you can say that core material does not really come from G. G. Martin - at least not in complete, coherent form - but from TV scriptwriters. Events happen and inter-wit without any respect to distance (between them) and time (required to navigate distances). Characters are in one place, then suddenly completely elsewhere in hours or minutes, even if world's geography (which is too detailed to be simply ignored for the benefits of script's schedule) inclines that days if not weeks would be required for this and that. Again, story is degraded to second-thought loosely built to connect set-pieces (which are, thankfully, quite a spectacle - something TWD cannot depend on).

But like I said - end is in vicinity and that inspires many to stay tuned and find out how it ends. TWD, no-one knows how much will that go for. That is much harder to sell with current levels of show's quality.

@youre_a_sheep: LOL shot his bat. I should have stopped then but i'm invested in it now.

@youre_a_sheep: That Glen moment was what finished it for me. After that I stopped watching didn't even care about that season final. I loved Glen BTW but that was unacceptable.