Why Microsoft Believes In Cross-Gen And No Exclusives For Xbox Series X

@rquant88: If that actually happens, so what? People can do the same on Series X too.

Considering One X already has like 69% of the GPU of PS5, which is waaaaaaayncloser than Switch is, and a surprising number of current gen stuff hits switch, this may work out...and if not developers can just target Series X if they want.

@elron6: what will happen when the cloud fails to restore data? what will happen when the cloud lose all data? how can you restore what has already been lost?

@letsgame82: we’ve found out about a ton of exclusives, and plus we know the kinds of games their teams do.

Obsidian, ninja theory, and double fine all make really, really amazing stuff, and they’ve got other good teams too.

@reznik00: what are you taking about? Halo 5 isn’t the last exclusive, and they’ve bought a ton of developers over the past few years-some among the best on the planet-they’ve now got the same development capacity as Sony, and some of the best teams around.

You think they did that to not make games? Obsidian is making spreadsheets now?

@gfantini: You should read the article where he claims putting these newer games on Xbox One won't hold the Series X version back, it was from a few days ago I believe. Then go look for an interview done with Capcom from a month ago stating how they had to cancel the current gen version of RE Village because "the current gen consoles could not reach the vision we had intended for them". So, if they didn't cancel the games they would have had to scale them back on next gen to make in line with the current gen versions, or, hold them back. Phil doesn't give two shits about gamers, and it's good to finally see some people that aren't fooled by his shit eating grin.

@kutraz: Microsoft is one of the most valuable companies on the earth.

Sony is worth a faction of what Microsoft is worth.

Microsoft does games for fun and pretty much always has, they lost an insane amount of money of the og Xbox.

The PS is all Sony has at this point. That said Microsoft ain’t hungry and has nothing to fight for so I can understand people choosing Sony or Nintendo over MS.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/4/25/18515623/microsoft-worth-1-trillion-dollars-stock-price-value

@kutraz:I love a good conspiracy theory but do people seriously ever think these things through. They're literally spending billions on new studios, I doubt the millions it takes to make a game are truly terrifying at that point especially considering they usually tend to sell rather well because of the lower number of exclusives and despite having a lower market share, they aren't exactly struggling, they are still posting double digit billions of revenue each year.

@bdrtfm: ...you are missing the point. I'm not worried about the visuals of a game being held back by this strategy. Visuals can easily be scaled up or down based on the hardware, but don't change what the game is or how it plays.

The architecture of next-gen consoles will allow for fundamental changes in how games are designed and how they play. By forcing devs to make their game run on an Xbox One from 2013, they can't take advantage of exciting new gameplay ideas if it can't be simulated on a last-gen console.

@bdrtfm: Not forcing to upgrade also means playing the same games we've been playing since 2013. People want new consoles because they want to play new games not possible on current gen. Not the same stuff with a bump in resolution and framerate.

@analgrin: You don’t know anything about what either system can or can’t do, the Cell processor in the PS3 was supposed to be able to bend the fabric of space time, the emotion engine in the Ps2 was supposed to make games so real you’d see that reality is the game and the game is real life, hyperbole but companies stretch the truth very often when releasing products, wait till we see the finished product , you maybe correct, but we haven’t seen enough to know

@analgrin:Thats such a niche scenario its hardly worth worry about and technically there is nothing stopping them from doing it anyway and just placing loading screens or long ass warp tunnel loading effects at those locations in the older versions. Its not like we haven't seen games from the start of this generation make similar sacrifices. A lot of the cross-gen games from the current generation made all kinds of sacrifices in resolution and framerate and some even went as far as removing entire game modes in the 360/PS3 versions.

Besides, for the first year or two, there will be very few games that weren't in development before the console specs were finalised. Why do you think most the the truly next-gen looking games either don't have release dates or are aiming for 2022 at the earliest. 3-5 years is generally the common development time, so most of these games started development long before the console specs were even made public to developers.

Just look at Halo Infinite. Fanboys are piling a lot of hope on the game but that game started development in 2015 and the engine was started during work on Halo 4, long before console specs were known. People probably need to temper their expectations for that game because I doubt its going to be as next-gen as people are hoping it to be.

I don't think you will find a single person that won't agree that the older generation versions aren't going to be making some significant sacrifices but pretending that they are going to purposely hold you back is a little silly when PC games have basically done this forever as the article points out and all Microsoft and multiplatform games are releasing on PC anyway and PC does not yet enforce SSD and shows no sign of doing it in the immediate future. These new consoles will likely be the kick the PC needs to start enforcing SSD only but its not likely to happen for a couple years at least.

@analgrin: Remember when the Xbox 360 launched with an SKU missing the hard drive, so games could not utilize the HDD for caching (except for some that had to carry the label "hard drive required" which was the kiss of death for early 360 games).

I 'member.

@analgrin: What are you talking about? SSD's make games load faster. If there is no reason for a loading screen in the Xbox Series X version of the game, they are not going to force "Choke points" because the game is also on Xbox One. There are probably half a dozen console exclusive games a year on Xbox and PlayStation at the most. I'm sure the developers can take the extra effort to make sure the few Microsoft published Xbox exclusive games don't have freaking fake loading screens if they don't need them. People need to relax. So many people keep saying Xbox games are going to be left in the dark ages because Microsoft is not forcing you to upgrade to play their games. There is zero evidence of this. Not one single shred of proof has ever been given to show this will happen. You guys somehow just know.....

@Atzenkiller: that’s not how any of this works. I know it’s a hard concept for console gamers, but games for the Pc have always had to work on a multitude of hardware configurations with varying GPU, CPU, amount of ram, ram speed, APIs, operating systems, hard drive sizes and speeds and it’s been the best place to play a wide verity of games for 2 decades.

To bring it home current consoles do this well with Ps pro and Xbox X. God of War looked and played fantastic on my Pro and yet regular ps4 owners were also able to have a fantastic experience at a lower price point, sounds like a win/win to me

I literally stopped reading at "Win 10 is the absolute worst OS they've ever made". 'Gamers' and their console wars are ridiculous enough to say such nonsense. But I agree with the point of killing exclusives, is a shot in their own foot.

@Atzenkiller: "Win 10 is the absolute worst OS they've ever made". Sorry, Dude but, that line just shows you are fanboying hard or Microsoft hating. Whatever you want to call it. Windows 10 the worst OS ever? Sure, if you were born in 2016. I mean, you've never heard of Windows NT, Windows ME, Windows Vista or Windows 8? Worst OS ever. LOL. Windows Vista and ME sucked hard. I remember working on Windows NT systems. You couldn't even open a window without requiring a reboot even though you made zero changes. There is nothing wrong with Windows 10. And they have huge feature updates twice a year that add many new features. Just because they don't add new features you personally care about doesn't mean they're not there. I use Windows 10 on multiple devices and have zero problems. I also run Linux distros on several systems just to play around with. I mean, what operating system are you running, macOS?

@just1mohr: Yes, because when I spend ~$600 on a gaming console, I do it so I can play a game from 2010 on it.

@just1mohr: They make less money? Have you ever looked at any sales and profit numbers in recent years? Games are not considered a success nowadays if they only selling something like 5 million. In past times 1 million would have already been a huge success. Do you truly believe that games selling for 5 million are generating less profit than those old games in the past? The industry likes to whine and pretend like their cost are so high. But they're still raking in the money. No big publisher like EA or Ubisoft is starving. Even though EA has released barely anything worth mentioning in a decade or more now. It's all about making more and more profits for them, not about survival as they'd like to make it sound with that rhetoric about increasing cost.

Not that anyone forces them to make huge games anyway, nor does everyone expect it. Smaller games can sell just as well. But they know that huge open world games always sell well and that's why they make it. Because it makes more money for a higher initial investment. They wouldn't be doing if if that wasn't the case.