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Xbox One created 'with advertising in mind'

Xbox Live advertising division staff say the Xbox One was built with ads in mind; advertisers to get limited access to Kinect features.

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The Xbox One and its dashboard user interface were built with advertising in mind, key members of Microsoft’s UK Xbox Live Advertising team have told website StickTwiddlers on a recent visit to the company’s headquarters.

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A two-hour discussion with the senior digital art director/user experience designer and technical account manager for Xbox Live advertising revealed that all advertising created for the platform must work with both a standard Xbox controller and the console’s mandatory Kinect camera system.

“With the new Xbox One, the technology and Kinect has improved a lot,” said the technical account manager for Xbox Live Advertising, “so that actually, the voice recognition, the way you speak to your Xbox, and the transition between gaming and watching TV is a lot smoother, and hopefully we can transpire that into advertising that we do.

“Xbox is moving more outside of the bedroom. We’re seeing much, much more people use it in living rooms where there is family, friends, there is lots going on, so there is a context of perceiving the content,” the senior digital art director/use experience designer said. “It’s not like when you’re at work, when you sit in front of a screen and your experience is very personal. But with Xbox, it’s lots of people in front of one big screen. They are playing or watching together, and advertising is being consumed in a totally different way.”

Microsoft hopes that the inclusion of Kinect with every Xbox One system will allow the company to better serve contextually relevant ads, and that integrating advertising material within content will make it less jarring.

“On Xbox, the ad is part of the actual experience, it’s not something that is outside. The only difference is that the advertisement we have is quite small and not disruptive, so people are not aware of clicking on the banners because they know this is a part of the whole experience on the dash,” the senior digital art director revealed. “So the users know that this is something that when they click on it, they won’t be hit by something crazy or something dangerous like on the web. Everything that lands there, we create."

Microsoft's advertising team believes the upcoming Xbox One will allow advertising to evolve in line with the platform's gaming content.

“It’s going to be an exciting transition, though, because the 360 console wasn't built with advertising in mind, it was more of an afterthought, so we've had to adapt to the technology and how we work to fit them in to the console,” said the Xbox Live advertising technical account manager.

Users concerned that the Xbox One and its Kinect camera may be collecting personal, identifying, or biometric information from the system should not be concerned, the team said.

“This sort of works at two levels. There’s the game producers, who have a different API, so a different set of code and system that they use, and they've got a lot more control of the whole thing,” the developer commented, “whereas from the advertising point of view, we have a slightly more limited set, which is designed to protect the user. The company is very keen on protecting the user from any sort of abuse, so we can’t do certain things.”

Originally likened to a “monitoring device” by Germany's federal data protection commissioner, Microsoft has attempted to allay consumer fears that its new home console will spy on its users. The company recently released official information on how the Kinect camera can be paused, which personal data the system will collect, and how it will be shared with third parties.

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The biggest mistake, imo, is to unveil your new console with the millionth edition of an old game series. I'd be saying that even it was a series I liked.

Also, all these meaningless buzzwords like "immersion", "true next gen" and "connectivity" that fill the reveals with PR babble. Ugh...

Why should I be excited that the new consoles turn out 1 second quicker?

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it's a gaming system. MS should have " games in mind" when building a system .

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SO we went from TV TV TV TV SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS to DEW DEW DEW DORITOS DORITOS DORITOS. Wow SMH

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See..i never understood this. not from my perspective any way, i'm sure M$ could giove a piss what i think or how i feel at this point. But they charge you for Xbox live. the system and its games aren't free. So why or how do they justify all the ads all over the home page? i mean i know how they justify it, its more money for them. generally with advertising the advertisers pay to have their product shown. I this case we're also paying to have to see these ads (no one really wants to). so...what exactly are any of us getting out of any of this other then stuffing money in M$ through both ends? yay capitalism.

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@devilscry You know what the real joy of Capitalism is? YOU DON"T HAVE TO BUY ONE! They don't have adverts in Socialist or Communist countries? Well not on their consoles...since they don't even have access to them for the most part. This isn't a Capitalism issue it's whether you wish to spend your money on it. Be an empowered consumer and you won't need to put up with it.

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@CraZed__ do you know what the real joy of living in a capitalist country is? Making your feelings known to companies that depend on people buying their product.

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@CraZed__ How empowered are you if the said console manufacturer uses large amounts of money to lock in as many major game developers as they can into exclusives games, exclusive content and subscription models, which if proven to be successful allows the compeition to follow suit.


The alternative will therefore be, well just don't play games....

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@devilscry exactly, it's like paying $1.99 for the premium version of the free apple app to get rid of ads. Just to have the ads remain but be more "contextual"

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I was pissed when MS released an update for the dashboard that supported ads. I pay for the system, pay for the games, and pay for Xbox Live. I feel that this is getting to be too much. If MS wants to use their customers as a form of advertising, then they should offer the Xbox One at a discounted price. For $500, $60 per game and $60/year for live, we should have the choice of having advertisements on our screen or if we do not.


For gold members, the ads should be a choice; an option left for the customers. And give them some sort of incentive to keep the ads. Otherwise, the non-gold members may see the ads. This should be kept a choice for those who pay for premium services. Having ads takes the whole "PREMIUM" feeling away.

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I guess Microsoft was afraid that they had lost consumer contempt when they went back on everything. Don't talk about advertising as though it's a feature. Hell, don't talk about advertising at all. If you just make no mention of it, people probably won't make a big deal of it once they buy it. If it really is as un-intrusive as they claim, it really shouldn't even be worth mentioning. Microsoft needs a new PR team. They seem to just be talking about everything as opposed to carefully choosing what to talk about.

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@twentymooseman Agreed... but it's too late.

I thought even last week there might be a small chance to turn things around, but not now.

After the success of the 360... a titanic fail for the history books. Effectively dead before release.

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@epicgameresearc @twentymooseman Seriously. I just find it baffling that they seem to think of advertisements as features. Who the hell told them that would be a selling point?Now tell me, which is better, Microsoft?

Scenario 1

MS: "We have less intrusive ads guys, love us! ;)"

Consumers: "Screw off! Why the **** are there ads?"

*entire Xbox marketing staff justifiably tazed and fired*


Scenario 2

MS: *Keeps mouth shut*

Consumers on launch day: "There are ads on this thing... huh" *shrugs*

*entire Xbox marketing staff untazed and keeps their jobs*

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Last I checked there were ads on the playstation.

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@CaveManCobb please point them out xbot because the only ones I see are for PS3 games and we don't have to pay $60.00 for them either..

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@COPMAN221ISBACK @CaveManCobb Actually now you do.

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@david1230 @CaveManCobb @COPMAN221ISBACK Yep. It got lonely under the bridge.

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@CaveManCobb @COPMAN221ISBACK cobb seriously your just a troll.

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@CaveManCobb @COPMAN221ISBACK again talking shite about stuff you know nothing about. PS+ is mandatory only for online play for PS4 WHICH IS NOT RELEASED YET and still there are no fucking ads on it you fucking moron. He's talking about the PS3 which there are no ads whether you have PS+ or not. XBOX live costs $60 and you still get ads.

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@CaveManCobb there are no ads for anything on the XMB. you have to go to the "whats new" tab, and even then its game related stuff or movies for DL in the store. no ads for Chase or doritos or Axe products to be seen anywhere.

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@devilscry @CaveManCobb Exactly, why lie cobb? it almost seems like you don't actually have a playstation?

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@CaveManCobb @RobDev @devilscry great comeback dickhead.

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@RobDev @CaveManCobb @devilscry You're a fucking moron.

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@CaveManCobb @RobDev @devilscry you said last i checked. Not last i remembered. Therefore it;s a lie. Because if the last time you checked in 2008 there were ads on the PS3 you would have been the ONLY person in the world that saw them. If that's your philosophy why mention ads on the PS3 at all? Infact why mention the playstation AT ALL in an xbox thread?

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@RobDev @devilscry @CaveManCobb I never lied. I haven't owned a ps3 since 2008 so I miss remembered. **** me right? I have a simple philosophy I go by when it comes to things like this: Don't like it don't buy it. Simple right? I'm not bothered by ads because they don't affect me. Stop whining they are just ads.

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Really? For non playstation items? I don't think so.

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@CaveManCobb There aren't.

There are tiles if you hover over WHAT'S NEW. Otherwise no

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XBOX ONE

(Nov 2013 - Nov 2013)

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@epicgameresearc That's a ridiculous statement. It will last at least until January when the ram melts a hole in the bottom of the device or the kinect bricks.

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@RobDev @epicgameresearc LOL =)

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@RobDev @epicgameresearc I have not even considered the possibility of the Kinect malfunctioning until now. The system will be useless until replaced. I wonder what Microsoft's policy will be on replacements.

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@epicgameresearc @Pyro77 @RobDev if there's a problem with your cable connection you'll probably have to send it back to be fixed.

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@Pyro77 @RobDev @epicgameresearc Effectively, if there's a problem with your Kinect, the system's dead. If there's a problem with the hard drive, your system's dead.

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@Pyro77 @RobDev @epicgameresearc they will deny it until the class action law suit hits. Just like RROD..

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PS4 News: Never intended to block used games.

Xbox One News: Always intended to serve ads.

Yes. That is the gist of it.

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@Mroptimism "Never intended to block used games."

You're a fool if you believe that.

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@CaveManCobb @Mroptimism Careful with that intelligent thought, the SDF virgins are all here up in arms.

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@CaveManCobb @Mroptimism Using your logic --

After the mountain of negatives, you are fool if you buy an XBOX ONE

That's using your logic CaveManCobb

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@epicgameresearc @CaveManCobb @Mroptimism You do know xbots have no logic so what do you expect :)

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And you're a fool if you don't? I don't know. Works both ways.

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The ads aren't even very intrusive. I have an Xbox to play games. The dashboard ads and whatnot don't affect me.

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@bmart970 you have no idea what the xbox one ads will be like. I imagine far more than what they have now.

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This still doesn't bother me; Google, Facebook, Amazon, Yahoo, etc... all of these data mine users. MS is selling a device that is marketed and is much more than a simple gaming console so it makes sense that they want to tailor ads. Tailored advertisement is fine with me as I can limit what information is given to 3rd parties. My google ads, for example, lack any reference to feminine hygeine products because google knows what I shop for.

That said, I'm not sure if I'm getting the XB1 for gaming... the PS4 may still be my gaming device but I'll withhold judgement until I see more.

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@yoshbud btw this might get you too buy a ps4 but the xbox one's ram is extremely hot and could burn out if you play a game long though the ps4's ram is really cool and its on multiple gaming computers it does not really have any overheating problems so if you get a xbox one prepare for the red ring of death to return

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@yoshbud The problem is PRISM. Now we also have proof MS plans on selling data to 3rd parties (as well as those insane MS patents). This isn't just a click-through tile for a DLC of a game you already play. This is MS doing eactly what people hate from those other services...

except...

MS IS DOING IT WITH A FREAKIN' CAMERA IN YOUR LIVINGROOM!

This is a terrible move by MS. They have no effectively killed XBOX ONE. Whatever positives... the mountain of negatives is far greater.

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@epicgameresearc Especially in this day and age where government spying has now been proven...are people who are growing continually more hateful of their government going to allow a 24/7 camera and microphone into their homes? Even if the government wasn't spying directly through your camera, they can get the data from these third parties (gov't forced Verizon to give up information, recordings, etc.). If it weren't for the Kinect, I'd say the console wars would still be close. Always-on Kinect = bye-bye Xbox.

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