A call to action for Gamespot staff regarding Wii reviews

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#101 michael646260
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I don't know if you all have seen the reviews for GST or VT09 but they both got a 6 and were both cited for having too steep of a learning curve. The VT09 reviewer also writes that the game is "way too easy" (I don't quite understand this, plus if singles are too easy then play doubles which are quite a bit more difficult). Now I won't comment on GST but I played VT09 for about 20 min before I pretty much had it down. Is 20 min. really too much time to learn new controls. Besides if you watch the video of the online play they are not even using the wii motion+ if they were there would be no timing bar above the characters head during the serve, all they did was turn off the vision assist. Plus you don't need to push the A button to perform a lob shot. So regarding the comment on them taking the time to ensure accuracy...well...
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#103 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]Where are you getting this information from (besides your dictionary defintion of feedback)? And how can other users be capable of offering site enhancements? There are many boards on the internet that have a site enhancements and feedback area, and none that I am aware of meet up to the description that you are giving.SoraX64

If you read the sticky that you are supposed to read before posting, you may have noticed this:
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Notice the "discussions of future enhancements and feedback you have for the GameSpot website" part. It doesn't say "discussions with staff about future enhancements and feedback you have for the GameSpot website". If you read through threads here you would notice that the majority of the feedback comes from users, not staff members. It's nothing to get worked up about, I'm sure it isn't on the top of their list to appease people who argue with them anyway.

By continually emphasizing the fact that feedback can be given from other members of this board (the same can be said for any forum really), you're missing the point that Gamespot needs to play a role in all of this in order for action to be taken.

The part of your post that I bolded pretty much goes to prove the position I've held in this thread from the onset: Gamespot has infact seen this thread, yet they are choosing not to respond despite the dozens of justifiable compliants from members of this board. I'm not arguing whether or not Gamespot has an out to take if they wish and can decline from responding -I'm arguing that in this case that would be the wrong thing for them to do. Where is the sense of community on this website when there is such a divide between the editor's and users that meaningful discussion on important issues cannot even be attempted?

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#104 SoraX64
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By continually emphasizing the fact that feedback can be given from other members of this board (the same can be said for any forum really), you're missing the point that Gamespot needs to play a role in all of this in order for action to be taken.

The part of your post that I bolded pretty much goes to prove the position I've held in this thread from the onset: Gamespot has infact seen this thread, yet they are choosing not to respond despite the dozens of justifiable compliants from members of this board. I'm not arguing whether or not Gamespot has an out to take if they wish and can decline from responding -I'm arguing that in this case that would be the wrong thing for them to do. Where is the sense of community on this website when there is such a divide between the editor's and users that meaningful discussion on important issues cannot even be attempted?

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Well what do you want them to tell you, that they will change their opinions on a game to suit the needs of everyone complaining in this thread?

There really isn't an argument to be had here. Bottom line is that no matter how much complaining people do, the reviewers won't change their opinions.

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#106 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]

By continually emphasizing the fact that feedback can be given from other members of this board (the same can be said for any forum really), you're missing the point that Gamespot needs to play a role in all of this in order for action to be taken.

The part of your post that I bolded pretty much goes to prove the position I've held in this thread from the onset: Gamespot has infact seen this thread, yet they are choosing not to respond despite the dozens of justifiable compliants from members of this board. I'm not arguing whether or not Gamespot has an out to take if they wish and can decline from responding -I'm arguing that in this case that would be the wrong thing for them to do. Where is the sense of community on this website when there is such a divide between the editor's and users that meaningful discussion on important issues cannot even be attempted?

SoraX64

Well what do you want them to tell you, that they will change their opinions on a game to suit the needs of everyone complaining in this thread?

There really isn't an argument to be had here. Bottom line is that no matter how much complaining people do, the reviewers won't change their opinions.

Review scores have always been secondary issue in this thread which only becomes amplified when taking into consideration my main problem with Gamespot, which is that they have clearly made Wii reviews less of a priority than games on the other consoles - often reviewing Wii titles days to weeks later than their HD brethren if not missing them altogether. It is Gamespot's obligation to prove to the Wii readership of this board that this does not indicate bias against their console. I would also like them to explain to us why this is happening, and what measures they are taking to prevent this from happening in the future

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#107 SoraX64
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Review scores have always been secondary issue in this thread which only becomes amplified when taking into consideration my main problem with Gamespot, which is that they have clearly made Wii reviews less of a priority than games on the other consoles - often reviewing Wii titles days to weeks later than their HD brethren if not missing them altogether. It is Gamespot's obligation to prove to the Wii readership of this board that this does not indicate bias against their console. I would also like them to explain to us why this is happening, and what measures they are taking to prevent this from happening in the futureredfordo
Look, I'm a Nintendo fan, I only own a Wii as far as current generation consoles go, and even I have to say, the Wii does not have many titles at all worth reviewing. If GS did review more of the Wii games that came out, we would just be seeing 3's and 4's all around. At the end of the day, I don't think it really matters what the reviewers of GS think, because I listen more to other people like me anyway. I do agree; a lot of Wii games go unreviewed. But there are a lot of games that shouldn't be reviewed because people would either A) ignore it because they would never play a game like that or B) complain about it because they are one of the minority that like the game (Like I was with Kirby AirRide for the Gamecube). I don't really know where else to go with this, partly because I can't answer your questions as I am not a staff member and partly because it is almost 1 in the morning. :P I don't want to argue, so I'm going to just leave it here. Sorry to trouble you.
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#109 redfordo
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[QUOTE="redfordo"]Review scores have always been secondary issue in this thread which only becomes amplified when taking into consideration my main problem with Gamespot, which is that they have clearly made Wii reviews less of a priority than games on the other consoles - often reviewing Wii titles days to weeks later than their HD brethren if not missing them altogether. It is Gamespot's obligation to prove to the Wii readership of this board that this does not indicate bias against their console. I would also like them to explain to us why this is happening, and what measures they are taking to prevent this from happening in the futureSoraX64
Look, I'm a Nintendo fan, I only own a Wii as far as current generation consoles go, and even I have to say, the Wii does not have many titles at all worth reviewing. If GS did review more of the Wii games that came out, we would just be seeing 3's and 4's all around. At the end of the day, I don't think it really matters what the reviewers of GS think, because I listen more to other people like me anyway. I do agree; a lot of Wii games go unreviewed. But there are a lot of games that shouldn't be reviewed because people would either A) ignore it because they would never play a game like that or B) complain about it because they are one of the minority that like the game (Like I was with Kirby AirRide for the Gamecube). I don't really know where else to go with this, partly because I can't answer your questions as I am not a staff member and partly because it is almost 1 in the morning. :P I don't want to argue, so I'm going to just leave it here. Sorry to trouble you.

Not a problem. Glad to here some feedback from other members, even if it's an opposing viewpoint . I can only disagree regarding the quality of the reviews being missed. Anno, Rune Factory, PES 09, Rock Band 2 ect. are all solid titles that are absolutely worthy of reviews. Infact, most of the titles I listed are scoring AA on other sites. A lot of people in this thread are actually complaining that Gamespot has chosen not to review these titles as opposed to other games of lesser quality. I think every game that surpasses the definition of shovelware is entitled to a review. I also think we should hold Gamespot accountable to a high standard in terms of their reviews, and they really shouldn't have it any other way. The fact that we can look elsewhere for our reviews is irrelevant to my point as we are all members of this board.