Now that the November 19, $249 launch has been announced how many of you will be geting a Wii at launch -- what are your varying attitudes about getting a system at launch?
Is it case-by-case or is it "see console buy console"?
Saying that I'm skeptical about launch units would be an understatement. My 360 died less than a week after purchase, my PSP had dead pixels, and my DS Lite's hinge was cracked. However, I do plan on getting the Wii at launch, simply because Nintendo has always been my favorite console manufacturer and developer, and I don't plan on dropping $600+ on a PS3 anytime soon. I'm a bit disappointed that it's coming in at $250, but my excitement for the return of game pack-ins (even if it is just WiiSports) outweighs that. And with the delays of Metroid and Mario Galaxy, Zelda is really my only must-have launch title. I might check out Rayman and Trauma Center, though.
Saying that I'm skeptical about launch units would be an understatement. My 360 died less than a week after purchase, my PSP had dead pixels, and my DS Lite's hinge was cracked. However, I do plan on getting the Wii at launch, simply because Nintendo has always been my favorite console manufacturer and developer, and I don't plan on dropping $600+ on a PS3 anytime soon. I'm a bit disappointed that it's coming in at $250, but my excitement for the return of game pack-ins (even if it is just WiiSports) outweighs that. And with the delays of Metroid and Mario Galaxy, Zelda is really my only must-have launch title. I might check out Rayman and Trauma Center, though.DrFish62
that's some really bad luck Dr., nevertheless, I still can't afford NEW consoles and refuse to pay FULL price ever again...
I will DEFINATELY be at the Wii launch. I have looked at everything that's basically come out and here's my thoughts... $249, the bundle, and the date- Well, I'm not a huge fan of the date, really. I mean, I understand them trying to get it out there right for the holiday rush, but I just don't think that having the system out right after PS3 in the USA is the best choice. If people go to the store looking for the PS3, can't find it, well guess what? There's a X360 waiting there also, which has 100+ games and is also able to do HD, which is what most PS3 purchasers are aiming for, themselves. But either way, I still think that at $249, Nintendo is in a much more actionable position with its new system than with the Gamecube. And an included game called WiiSports will only help to pull in more people. DVD playback NOT enabled- I'm sorry, but if at this point, you can't figure out how to plug the RCA cables into the back of a selector or a DVD player you should have already have, a console is the least of your problems. And with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray about to duke it out, why should Nintendo bother? This will bother such a small margin of people that Nintendo shouldn't worry about it. 1st Party Games are region-free- This is great for importers, but with now Nintendo gets most of their 1st party games everywhere, it's not that big a deal to me for the odd game here & there. I'm more interested to see how 3rd party game makers do this. Cost of controllers & accesories- $40 for a Wiimote is ok, I guess, but I've always found controllers to be high in price. Nintendo has thrown a LOT of tech into this new controller, so it doesn't bug me that much, as an educated consumer. VC pricing- The game prices aren't too bad. $5/$8/$10 for NES/SNES/N64 seems reasonable. What I'm still holding on for is some kind of DC back compatability and VC Sega CD/Saturn games priced at their relative console levels.
The only problem i have, and this is just personal, so dont bash me into the ground, is this: WHY must we get wii sports :( it is something i will NEVER play and really dont want to play, couldnt they make a pack for even just $20 less :cry:
What I'm still holding on for is some kind of DC back compatability and VC Sega CD/Saturn games priced at their relative console levels.Yagami-Iori
If there is DC backwards compatibility, I will eat my hat. If there are Saturn games, I'll eat half of it, and if there are Sega CD games, I'll eat the band of it.  There'a a big difference between emulating a 12 MBit cartridge ROM and making the contents of a CD-ROM into a $5 download.Â
It's an interesting idea, mind you, but the likelihood of post-Genesis systems being emulated in the Virtual Console is not high.
For me, every console is bought on a case-by-case basis. Even though it might not seem like it from my rampant game collecting, I'm pretty cautious about buying the wrong thing or paying too much. I would never buy a console at launch, "no matter what." If the games are there, and I feel like I'd get my money's worth out of it, then I'll buy, no matter who makes the hardware.
I waited a (relatively) long time to buy a PS2, and the reason was that initially, there just weren't enough games that I would play on it. After a flood of good titles, I went for it. The same repeated with the X-Box. However, I bought a GC at launch based upon Ikaruga and knowing that Wind Waker was coming.
I will take a hard look at the Wii when it launches, and at some point I'll have one.
I waited a (relatively) long time to buy a PS2, and the reason was that initially, there just weren't enough games that I would play on it. After a flood of good titles, I went for it. The same repeated with the X-Box. However, I bought a GC at launch based upon Ikaruga and knowing that Wind Waker was coming.
gmsnpr
That describes my history precisely (except the Ikaruga part). I'll be getting a Wii at launch for Zelda. I broke my rule with the 360 by getting one as soon as one was available, by rights there still are not any "must-have" titles for the system.
[QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]What I'm still holding on for is some kind of DC back compatability and VC Sega CD/Saturn games priced at their relative console levels.gmsnpr
If there is DC backwards compatibility, I will eat my hat. If there are Saturn games, I'll eat half of it, and if there are Sega CD games, I'll eat the band of it. There'a a big difference between emulating a 12 MBit cartridge ROM and making the contents of a CD-ROM into a $5 download.
It's an interesting idea, mind you, but the likelihood of post-Genesis systems being emulated in the Virtual Console is not high. the PS1 Castlevania is going to be DLable from live so why not?
[QUOTE="gmsnpr"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]What I'm still holding on for is some kind of DC back compatability and VC Sega CD/Saturn games priced at their relative console levels.waflerevolution
If there is DC backwards compatibility, I will eat my hat. If there are Saturn games, I'll eat half of it, and if there are Sega CD games, I'll eat the band of it. There'a a big difference between emulating a 12 MBit cartridge ROM and making the contents of a CD-ROM into a $5 download.
It's an interesting idea, mind you, but the likelihood of post-Genesis systems being emulated in the Virtual Console is not high. the PS1 Castlevania is going to be DLable from live so why not?
Call it a hunch. I'd love to be wrong, but I really doubt that there will be SCD, Saturn, or DC games in the Virtual Console. First, support for those systems hasn't been announced, and I see that as enough of a selling point that would be hyped if possible. Second, SCD and Saturn titles are just not as well known as titles on the SNES and Genesis, and Dreamcasts and DC games are cheap most places, so I don't know if it'd be cost effective in the third case. I haven't addressed the technical aspects, though there is certainly a difference in getting a small ROM versus a big one to you in playable form. As for SOTN being part of Live Arcade, that is cool and news to me, but it doesn't have much bearing on SCD, Saturn or DC games being part of the Wii's DL content. SOTN is one of the best and most popular games of the 32-bit era and still commands a pretty good price on the resale market, which makes it look promising to people who sell downloads.
[QUOTE="waflerevolution"][QUOTE="gmsnpr"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]What I'm still holding on for is some kind of DC back compatability and VC Sega CD/Saturn games priced at their relative console levels.gmsnpr
If there is DC backwards compatibility, I will eat my hat. If there are Saturn games, I'll eat half of it, and if there are Sega CD games, I'll eat the band of it. There'a a big difference between emulating a 12 MBit cartridge ROM and making the contents of a CD-ROM into a $5 download.
It's an interesting idea, mind you, but the likelihood of post-Genesis systems being emulated in the Virtual Console is not high. the PS1 Castlevania is going to be DLable from live so why not?
Call it a hunch. I'd love to be wrong, but I really doubt that there will be SCD, Saturn, or DC games in the Virtual Console. First, support for those systems hasn't been announced, and I see that as enough of a selling point that would be hyped if possible. Second, SCD and Saturn titles are just not as well known as titles on the SNES and Genesis, and Dreamcasts and DC games are cheap most places, so I don't know if it'd be cost effective in the third case. I haven't addressed the technical aspects, though there is certainly a difference in getting a small ROM versus a big one to you in playable form. As for SOTN being part of Live Arcade, that is cool and news to me, but it doesn't have much bearing on SCD, Saturn or DC games being part of the Wii's DL content. SOTN is one of the best and most popular games of the 32-bit era and still commands a pretty good price on the resale market, which makes it look promising to people who sell downloads. I said for DC actual disk playability... that's why I said DC back compatability and VC Saturn and Sega CD. These games exist, would cost near nothing to put up... so why not put them there.
I said for DC actual disk playability... that's why I said DC back compatabilityYagami-Iori
Dreamcasts and DC games are cheap most places, so I don't know if it'd be cost effective. gmsnpr
and VC Saturn and Sega CD. These games exist, would cost near nothing to put up... so why not put them there. Yagami-Iori
It sounds cynical, but those systems are what many people say started Sega's decline. I don't believe it, but changing the gaming community's tastes in what to download will be hard, particularly since many don't even know what software the Sega CD had. Even if they went to the trouble to emulate SCD games, if Super Metroid gets 50,000 downloads and Sewer Shark get 500, how long do you think it will be before they take the unpopular games off the DL list?
It's true that the games exist, but it would cost a little bit to adapt them for the VC. Also, 2-D 16-bit games still look and play well these days, b/c even though they are sprite-based, they inspire a sense of nostalgia. However, early 3-D games and ones that feature grainy FMV (which were thick on the Saturn and SCD) are nausea-inspiring to most. There just isn't the same demand for SCD or Saturn games that there would be for SNES and Genesis. For all the people that would love to download Panzer Dragoon Saga, there are many more that have never heard of it and would rather get something that they know. I really doubt (even at $5-10 apiece) that the Virtual Console is going to do a lot of business in people trying vintage titles that they never played. It is more for people that want to recapture a game that they owned or had played back in the day, which for most people means SNES games, frankly.
Bear in mind that I'd love to see what you describe happen, b/c I think there are a lot of forgotten gems on Sega systems, but my gut says it won't.
Bear in mind that I'd love to see what you describe happen, b/c I think there are a lot of forgotten gems on Sega systems, but my gut says it won't. gmsnpr
I never said I thought it would, just that I'd like to see it o_0
[QUOTE="waflerevolution"][QUOTE="gmsnpr"][QUOTE="Yagami-Iori"]What I'm still holding on for is some kind of DC back compatability and VC Sega CD/Saturn games priced at their relative console levels.gmsnpr
If there is DC backwards compatibility, I will eat my hat. If there are Saturn games, I'll eat half of it, and if there are Sega CD games, I'll eat the band of it. There'a a big difference between emulating a 12 MBit cartridge ROM and making the contents of a CD-ROM into a $5 download.
It's an interesting idea, mind you, but the likelihood of post-Genesis systems being emulated in the Virtual Console is not high. the PS1 Castlevania is going to be DLable from live so why not?
Call it a hunch. I'd love to be wrong, but I really doubt that there will be SCD, Saturn, or DC games in the Virtual Console. First, support for those systems hasn't been announced, and I see that as enough of a selling point that would be hyped if possible. Second, SCD and Saturn titles are just not as well known as titles on the SNES and Genesis, and Dreamcasts and DC games are cheap most places, so I don't know if it'd be cost effective in the third case. I haven't addressed the technical aspects, though there is certainly a difference in getting a small ROM versus a big one to you in playable form. As for SOTN being part of Live Arcade, that is cool and news to me, but it doesn't have much bearing on SCD, Saturn or DC games being part of the Wii's DL content. SOTN is one of the best and most popular games of the 32-bit era and still commands a pretty good price on the resale market, which makes it look promising to people who sell downloads. I'm just saying, you shouldn't rule it out. anything could happen... it's not nintendo that decides what sega will bring afterall...
I'm not getting one at launch and all signs point to "no" for the near future as well. I base my console on not just a must-buy game, but a library that includes a few titles for me to enjoy once I beat the system seller.
From what I've read, the only Wii title that I'm interested in is Trauma Center: Second Oppinion. That game isn't a system seller being that it's a "remake new features" version of the DS Trauma Center which I already own. Zelda looks nice, so does Mario. But I'm not going to be buying those. The only Zelda games I enjoyed were A Link to the Past and Link's Awakening, both rather old. I haven't enjoyed a Mario game since Mario World, though the NES Marios were fun too. That's it. As for Metroid, gimme Fusion 2, not Prime 3. Rayman perhaps, but I'm not buying a console on "perhaps".
Ill tell you what Im right after the Wii launch, going on Ebay and seeing if people have decided to get rid of their old games now that they can get them on the Wii or at least find old stuff at cheaper prices because alot of people would prefer to download the old games vs buy them outright (I know not people in this union, but the general public).
I have a 360 and was planning on getting a PS3.  With the disaster that has become Sony I may just pick up the Wii and call it a day. I think Nintendo has done a great job of trying to make itself the niche system. They have turned into the innovating dark horse. I feel like the Wii will be like the Gamecube. A good second system for people who like to try different things and already have a PS3 or 360.Â
That's sort of how I see the Wii. I have an Xbox, PS2, and GC, and I get the multi-platform titles on the Xbox if possible, but there's no Wind Waker anywhere else. I'm going to be satisfied with the Xbox 360/Wii combo for quite a while, I have a feeling. If only Sony had left the twin HDMI outputs for the panoramic display as one of the features, then I'd be more interested from the outset. 32:9 would open a lot of possibility for immersive gaming, sort of like the House of the Dead 4 special setup with the 100" screens in front and back, a rumble chair and a pneumatic air puffer to make it seem like you're really being attacked.
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