.:: 2008 Chinese GP Thread ::.

.:: 2008 Chinese GP ::.

Welcome to the 2008 Chinese GP thread, where you can discuss anything to do with this weekend's race. cjek will update the thread with the latest times as they happen, or I will if watching live.

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RANDOM FACT

China has the only pit entry on the F1 calendar with a gravel trap in it - as Hamilton found out last year.

POINTS OF DISCUSSION

1. Alonso has now won back-to-back in the unfancied Renault - and in fact, the past three races have been won by non-McLaren or Ferrari drivers - what is going on!?!
2. Last year, we saw how Hamilton was too focused on winning when he slid into the gravel trap in the pit entry last year - how much more matured has Hamilton become since then?
3. In Japan, both Hamilton and Massa made costly errors which allowed not only for Kubica to save his Championship chances, but also gave him a decent shot for making a three-way dance into Brazil - can Kubica bring himself even further into contention?
4. Speaking of the World Championship, despite being the best of the top 4 in Japan, Raikkonen couldn't do enough to save his Championship hopes - to what effect do you think Kimi will be a rear gunner for Massa, or will he be the same old Kimi?

ITV-F1 PRESENTS LIVE STREAMING OF THE CHINESE GRAND PRIX WEEKEND: FRIDAY PRACTICES, QUALIFYING & THE RACE

DRIVER'S CHAMPIONSHIP: MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED

Kimi Raikkonen (Japan)
Nick Heidfeld (Japan)
Heikki Kovalainen (Singapore)
Rubens Barrichello (Belgium)
Nelson Piquet Jnr. (Belgium)
Timo Glock (Belgium)
Mark Webber (Belgium)
Fernando Alonso (Belgium)
Jarno Trulli (Belgium)
Giancarlo Fisichella (Valencia)
Adrian Sutil (Valencia)
Sebastien Bourdais (Valencia)
Jenson Button (Valencia)
David Coulthard (Valencia)
Kazuki Nakajima (Valencia)
Sebastian Vettel (Valencia)
Nico Rosberg (Valencia)
Anthony Davidson (Turkey)
Takuma Sato (Turkey)

CONSTRUCTORS CHAMPIONSHIP: MATHEMATICALLY ELIMINATED

Toyota (Belgium)
Renault (Belgium)
Red Bull (Belgium)
Williams (Belgium)
Honda (Belgium)
Toro Rosso (Valencia)
Force India (Valencia)
Super Aguri (Turkey)

CHAMPIONSHIP CONTENDERS

As predicted, both Raikkonen and Heidfeld lost their chances in the title race, and Kubica, against all odds, kept himself in.

The pole once again has to outscore Hamilton, but whilst it's even more difficult than in Japan - he has to outscore Lewis by at least three points - it seems a lot more possible than in Fuji. Being so far behind though, there is no chance of the BMW ace winning the title in China.

Massa too cannot win the title in China, but if he can close the gap to 4 points this weekend, He's got one hand on the title - Lewis will need a miracle to be higher than 3rd in Brazil. So the Brazilian needs to cut the gap again - and also cut the mistakes.

Championship leader Hamilton too needs to cut out the mistakes - being too hot-headed cost him a chance to really put the pressure on the Brazilian. Lewis, though, has one thing that Massa and Kubica don't - the chance to wrap up the title in China. Hamilton needs to take 6 points off of Massa and 3 off of Kubica to ensure the title is his. With a Ferrari and BMW as rivals though, this is easier said than done.

HAMILTON: I'M NOT HAUNTED BY CHINA '07:

Lewis Hamilton insists his costly mistake in last year's Chinese Grand Prix will not play on his mind as he returns to the circuit again looking to put one hand on the world title this weekend.

The McLaren driver headed into the penultimate round of 2007 holding a 12-point advantage, but his helpless slide into the pit lane gravel trap in the race proved to be the turning point in his challenge and he lost out by single point to Kimi Raikkonen at the Interlagos decider.

Now a year on, he has just a five-point cushion over Ferrari's Felipe Massa and races again just a week after his wild first-corner move at Fuji which provoked widespread criticism about his attacking approach.

But Hamilton insists he won't be thinking about last year's Shanghai errors this weekend and has learned from the mistake.

Asked in a team preview if he was still haunted by the memories of 2007, he insisted: "No, not really.

"Sometimes I've been on YouTube and seen a video clip or a picture of me in the gravel last year and thought, 'Damn! That shouldn't have happened.'

"But it was a learning mistake.

"I can still move forwards from it; things like that happen for a reason and it taught me a lot.

"Last year, the last couple of races taught me a lot about my personality and my life.

"And I'm stronger for it."

Hamilton's decision to try and immediately repass Raikkonen into the first corner after losing the lead from pole position at Fuji backed fired spectacularly, as he locked up and forced both cars out wide, earning himself a drive-through penalty.

This bold move came despite both driver and team insisting in the build up to the race that they would be taking a more conservative approach to racing in the season's deciding stretch.

Ahead of China, McLaren CEO Martin Whitmarsh says the planned approach will be the same again.

"For qualifying, you want to have a suitably aggressive strategy otherwise you are not going to be in the race," he said.

"Then, as the race develops, you are afforded the possibility to become slightly more circumspect to ensure you're scoring the points you need to fight for the world championship.

"And that is the approach we take into these races."

He added that he expected there to be little to choose between the MP4-23 and rival Ferrari's car.

"As this season has progressed, it's become increasingly difficult to characterise the circuits that favour ourselves or favour Ferrari," said Whitmarsh.

"And that has gone away because both teams have understandably addressed some of the weaknesses of their cars.

"But Shanghai is a good circuit, with a good mix of corners that requires a good car to get the best from it.

"To that extent, there's every reason to suppose Ferrari and ourselves will be very close there."

While McLaren is looking to gain ground on its Italian rival after slipping seven points behind it in the constructors' championship, Hamilton could clinch the drivers' title in China if he scores six more points than Massa.

SOURCE: ITV-F1

THURSDAY PRESS CONFERENCE:

Drivers: Fernando Alonso (Renault); Lewis Hamilton (McLaren), Robert Kubica (BMW Sauber) and Kimi Raikkonen (Ferrari).

Q: Fernando, you come off a roll of two wins. What are your feelings about this race?
Fernando Alonso: Hopefully we can do well here. Obviously the victory I am still thinking is very far and we are not as quick as maybe the contenders for the win here but we can do a good job again and take hopefully many points for the team. I think the car is really nice to drive now in the last month and a half, so I don't see any reason that here we will not have a competitive car. But as I said maybe not for the win but hopefully the podium will be our target.

Q: Tell us about the continuing development of the car that has helped to make it a winner?
FA: We have been introducing new parts at every race but some of them were a little bit better from a performance point of view but some of them were not so good, so you know I think we are still not completely sure how the car changed dramatically in the last couple of weeks. We introduced a new front wing but I think it is something more than that. You know, little things in the set-up as well, I think, helped us a lot. We found some new way to set up the car in the last couple of races and it seems to work fine, especially in the long run pace in the race, so we will keep this set-up for sure for this race.

Q: What about the challenges of this circuit?
FA: I think turn one is our main challenge from a driver's point of view because it is a very long corner that you need to guess more or less to turn in and you need to continually downshift all the way through turn one and you can make good time there. Also there is the very long straight at the back. You need to have a good exit from the corner before but I think it is very similar for everybody and the set-up of the car can also be crucial here as it is a very, very long straight and you need to take some downforce off but you need the downforce in the corners, so you need to find the compromise.

Q: Kimi, a winner here last year and three times on the podium. What are your thoughts about this race?
Kimi Raikkonen: It is nice to come back here. I have had some good races in the past here but hopefully we can have similar achievement this year but we need to see what we can do.

Q: It is your birthday tomorrow, what is the best present you could give yourself or could be given to you?
KR: Like I said, hopefully I can challenge for a win. The car is definitely improving and it is better for me but we are still not exactly where we want to be. But this is a different place from the last circuit. Last year we had a good time and hopefully this year we can again.

Q: Is qualifying going to be any better for Ferrari than, say at Fuji?
KR: I mean at Fuji I had a pretty okay qualifying but then it didn't work out in the race as well. For sure qualifying for all the teams is going to make a big difference and if you are driving behind cars it is going to be difficult to get past anybody.

Q: Lewis, dramas last weekend and last year here as well. What are the lessons you have taken from last year and last weekend?
Lewis Hamilton: I think from last year it is just keep your head up, things happen and I guess to avoid the gravel trap here. I think from last weekend there are quite a lot of positives I took from the weekend and I move forward, put that in the past. The team remain positive. We make mistakes together as a team and we move on together, so onwards and upwards for us.

Q: Has your approach changed from last weekend to how you approach this weekend's race?
LH: No.

Q: So what is the general approach then?
LH: The same as always. We come here and we are going to try and do the best job we can. The car is very competitive and we were very quick here last year but we should perhaps be a little bit more competitive this year with the good car that we have. But it is going to be a very tough weekend without a doubt, so we will try and do the best job we can.

Q: Renault have won the last two races. Do you regard them a threat to your championship hopes?
LH: They have obviously done a fantastic job and it is great to see them doing so well. You can see how hard they have worked over the last two years, so it is not a surprise to see them doing well. They are a great team and I am sure they are going to be pushing us hard throughout the weekend.

Q: Robert, this hasn't been a very good circuit for you in the past.
Robert Kubica: Yeah, if you compare results of the race. I retired when I was leading the race, so that was not bad.

Q: But you have had two best in qualifying of ninth place and a best of 13th in the race.
RK: There is nothing to say. They were two wet qualifying sessions, so it has been quite difficult but still in the race in 2006 I was doing a very good race but unfortunately I was last after corner one as I was hit by Doornbos but gaining a lot of positions and running P5 but then with gambling with tyre choice and it didn't work out. Last year again during drying conditions on the track I had good pace. We chose dry tyres but in my first stop it started to rain and I kept the tyres and in two laps I overtook two Ferraris and I was leading the race, so all in all I think it was not bad.

Q: How much has consistency been the watchword of the season for the BMW Sauber team and for yourself?
RK: I think the only way to stay in the championship was with consistency and reliability. It was just great this season. Compared to last year we have done very big progress. Last year we had many technical issues but this year none, so the biggest steps were there comparing last year from this year. That is why we are still in the game. Of course our position is not the best one but if I am still among three drivers who can fight for the championship it is due to the reliability which is 100 per cent perfect this season.

Q: Does that idea of consistency change the way you drive?
RK: I am always trying to give maximum but just this season I am really thinking that reliability will be the issue. Last year was completely different. Last year I had many races when there was some technical issue. This season when reliability is perfect you are not thinking about it. But from a driving point of view, it is no different.

SOURCE: OFFICIAL F1 WEBSITE

ED: OUCH! Why are they all in it against Lewis? :? (Apart from Jon McEvoy, who appears to be very pro-Hamilton :|)

PRACTICE 1: FIRST BLOOD TO HAMILTON:

Lewis Hamilton laid down a marker in first practice for the Chinese Grand Prix, topping the times and outpacing his world championship rival Felipe Massa by four-tenths of a second.

The main title protagonists and their McLaren and Ferrari team-mates traded fastest time before Hamilton took control just after the one-hour mark and then steadily increased his advantage.

Less than 0.1s covered Massa, Kimi Raikkonen and Heikki Kovalainen in second, third and fourth places respectively.

BMW Sauber's Robert Kubica, who still has a slim mathematical chance of winning the championship, was 0.9s off the pace in fifth, while Fernando Alonso - fresh from two consecutive wins - was sixth for Renault.

The session got off to a predictably quiet start, with Sebastien Bourdais setting the early pace for Toro Rosso.

Raikkonen was the first of the leading contenders to get down to business, snatching the top spot from Bourdais with a 1m36.625s on his second flying lap - and then spinning at the start of his next lap after drifting off-line through the never-ending first corner.

Then came a frenetic middle phase of the session as the top four knocked each other off the top of the timing charts in quick succession.

First Kovalainen demoted Raikkonen with a 1m36.581s, then Massa fired off a 1m36.368s, Raikkonen moved the bar to 1m36.257s and Kovalainen responded with a 1m36.103s.

Hamilton promptly muscled in on the action with a 1m36.044s effort, ensuring a McLaren 1-2 at the session's halfway point.

It was short-lived, however, as Massa went round in 1m36.020s just a couple of minutes later to end the first set of runs on top.

When they came back out 15 minutes later, though, Hamilton appeared to have found a decisive advantage and stamped his authority on the session.

While his main rivals failed to improve, the championship leader upped the ante to 1m35.966s, then 1m35.839s and finally an impressive 1m35.630s.

Generally the track appeared to lose a little grip in the closing minutes even as the temperature rose, and there were no significant order changes in the top 10.

Kubica ran wide in the tricky first corner but remained fifth ahead of Alonso and Nick Heidfeld in the second BMW.

Bourdais led Toro Rosso's challenge in eighth, separated from team-mate Sebastian Vettel in 10th by Renault's Nelson Piquet Jr.

Next up were Mark Webber (Red Bull Racing) and Jenson Button (Honda), while Williams duo Kazuki Nakajima and Nico Rosberg were 13th and 15th respectively, sandwiched by David Coulthard.

Toyota had a less than impressive start to the event, with Timo Glock 16th fastest and Jarno Trulli 18th.

The Italian blotted his copybook with a strange-looking half-spin coming out of the tight turn 11 left-hander, the scene of several minor offs.

Webber, Rubens Barrichello and Hamilton all had minor 'moments' there, while Piquet took a trip through the infamous gravel trap in the pit lane entry that caught out Hamilton in last year's race.

As a measure of the intensity of the midfield battle, just 0.045s blanketed positions 12 through 16.


Chinese Grand Prix free practice session 1 times

1. HAMILTON McLaren 1m35.630s
2. MASSA Ferrari 1m36.020s
3. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m36.052s
4. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m36.103s
5. KUBICA BMW 1m36.507s
6. ALONSO Renault 1m36.661s
7. HEIDFELD BMW 1m37.040s
8. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m37.070s
9. PIQUET Renault 1m37.180s
10. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m37.278s
11. WEBBER Red Bull 1m37.491s
12. BUTTON Honda 1m37.619s
13. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m37.630s
14. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m37.638s
15. ROSBERG Williams 1m37.638s
16. GLOCK Toyota 1m37.664s
17. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m37.827s
18. TRULLI Toyota 1m38.219s
19. SUTIL Force India 1m38.285s
20. FISICHELLA Force India 1m38.479s

SOURCE: ITV-F1

PRACTICE 2: HAMILTON QUICKEST AGAIN:

World championship leader Lewis Hamilton remained the man to beat in Friday's second practice in Shanghai, topping the times by a comfortable 0.3s margin.

The two Renaults vaulted up the order in the closing minutes to claim second and third places, Fernando Alonso shading his rookie team-mate Nelson Piquet Jr.

Jarno Trulli put a difficult morning session behind him to take fourth for Toyota ahead of Red Bull standard-bearer Mark Webber.

The two Ferraris of title challenger Felipe Massa and outgoing champion Kimi Raikkonen kept beneath the radar and finished sixth and eighth quickest respectively.

Although there were plenty of cars out on the circuit throughout the 90 minutes, most drivers were unable to improve on their early times.

In fact, Hamilton's benchmark of 1m35.750s, set after just 15 minutes, remained unbeaten for the rest of the session – even though it was slightly slower than the McLaren driver's best lap from the morning.

The main source of interest for the majority of the session was not the timing charts, but the numerous spins and off-course excursions.

One driver who had several misadventures was Sebastien Bourdais, although the Frenchman was quick when he kept the Toro Rosso on the road and spent much of the session in the top three.

He had two lurid moments in turns one andtwo before finally beaching his STR3 in the gravel trap on the outside of the never-ending, decreasing radius right-hander, which cars enter in top gear and leave in second.

Bourdais therefore missed the last 11 minutes of the session and slipped to a still-creditable seventh place, in between the Ferrari pair.

Raikkonen also spun after taking too much of the turn 12 apex kerb, while Piquet gyrated his Renault at the same corner.

Webber and Hamilton both went off in turn two near the end of the session after their cars stepped out on them mid-corner, and Kazuki Nakajima spun his Williams at the same point.

The flurry of activity in the final 10 minutes shuffled the order considerably, dropping Nico Rosberg (who had been fourth for much of the afternoon) back to 10th place behind the lead BMW of Nick Heidfeld.

Timo Glock was 11th fastest for Toyota, while title long-shot Robert Kubica, who had a minor off at the hairpin early on, managed only 12th and McLaren's Heikki Kovalainen was a lowly 13th.


Chinese Grand Prix free practice session 2 times

1.HAMILTON McLaren 1m35.750s

2.ALONSO Renault 1m36.024s

3.PIQUET Renault1m36.094s

4.TRULLI Toyota 1m36.159s

5.WEBBER Red Bull 1m36.375s

6.MASSA Ferrari 1m36.480s

7.BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m36.529s

8.RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m36.542s

9.HEIDFELD BMW 1m36.553s

10. ROSBERG Williams 1m36.556s

11. GLOCK Toyota 1m36.615s

12. KUBICA BMW 1m36.775s

13. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m36.797s

14. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m36.808s

15. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m36.925s

16. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m36.975s

17. FISICHELLA Force India 1m37.473s

18. SUTIL Force India 1m37.617s

19. BUTTON Honda 1m37.800s

20. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m37.904s

Felipe Massa, Ferrari (6th, +0.730s):
"I am pleased with this first day in Japan. The balance of the car is very good, both on the first timed lap and over a distance. The times are very close and maybe I could have been a bit further up the order in the afternoon session if I had not encountered traffic on my last run on the soft tyres. These seem to be very quick, which is no surprise, but also very consistent. I really want to do well this weekend and we will try and win and bring home the best result possible for the two championships."Official F1 Website

Destination FAIL.

[QUOTE="Official F1 Website"]Felipe Massa, Ferrari (6th, +0.730s):
"I am pleased with this first day in Japan. The balance of the car is very good, both on the first timed lap and over a distance. The times are very close and maybe I could have been a bit further up the order in the afternoon session if I had not encountered traffic on my last run on the soft tyres. These seem to be very quick, which is no surprise, but also very consistent. I really want to do well this weekend and we will try and win and bring home the best result possible for the two championships."Redders1989

Destination FAIL.

Hey we all do it. And anyways it is knida hard to tell the people apart... Unless your 'Nando or the Spanish National Basketball teams.

I'm most surprised by Renault and their recently found performance. Far from being a one race fluke, back-to-back wins and now strong pre-qualifying results make them look like genuine contenders for scoring decent points in China as well.

Where have the suddenly found this extra pace from, and why couldn't they find it earlier in the season when it could have made a difference?

"When I grow up, I want to be like Lewis Hamilton..."

HEIDFELD PIPS LEWIS IN FINAL PRACTICE SESSION:

BMW's Nick Heidfeld ended Lewis Hamilton's early domination of the Chinese Grand Prix weekend by beating the championship leader to the fastest time in the dying minutes of final practice.

Hamilton had looked on course to continue his perfect start after dominating most of Saturday morning's session, before Heidfeld uncorked a late soft-tyred lap of 1m16.061s to top the times from the Briton by just 0.075s.

The other BMW of Robert Kubica, who starts the penultimate round 12 points adrift of Hamilton, also came to the fore in the closing stages and wound up a close third.

Ferrari's rather low-key start continued with Hamilton's closest rival Felipe Massa down in 12th place, 0.8s off the pace, and Kimi Raikkonen a slot behind.

The second McLaren of Heikki Kovalainen was fourth, ahead of Toyota's Jarno Trulli and Williams's Nico Rosberg.

Red Bull's Mark Webber, meanwhile, seems set to face a 10-place grid drop for an engine change after he was forced to pull off the road down the backstraight with smoke pouring from the rear of his RB4 after 45 minutes of the session.

In truth, that was one of the few dramatic moments during another relatively straightforward session at the Shanghai International Circuit.

After both Renaults and Timo Glock (Toyota) had set the initial pace, Hamilton picked up straight from where he left off on Friday and vaulted to the head of the order with an opening flying lap of 1m37.077s after a quarter of the session.

Toro Rosso's Sebastien Bourdais soon beat that by 0.2s, before the McLaren driver quickly responded with a 1m36.669s on his second lap.

It wasn't until past the half-hour mark that anyone took the challenge to Hamilton again but, when team-mate Kovalainen duly did so with a 1m36.571s lap, Lewis demonstrated he had even more speed in his pocket as he lowered the benchmark to 1m36.416s

His only slightly concerning moment came once again in the Shanghai pit lane as, in an unwanted reminder to his gravel trap calamity there last year; he overshot the tight entry and ended up in the escape road, before reversing his way out of trouble.

Back on the track he seemed to consolidate his position at the top when the field switched for soft-tyre runs in the closing laps, setting a time of 1m36.135s.

But the BMWs had other ideas and after Kubica vaulted out of midfield mediocrity to lap just 0.089 slower than the McLaren, Heidfeld found even more speed with a minute to go to move to the top.

Hamilton was unable to respond on his following fast lap and had to settle for second, with Kovalainen demoted to fourth despite also improving on soft tyres.

Trulli and Rosberg produced late flyers to seal places in the top six, ahead of Bourdais who ran strongly throughout the hour.

With David Coulthard (Red Bull), Kazuki Nakajima (Williams) and Renault's Nelson Piquet Jr completing the top 10, both Ferraris found themselves outside after making little impression on either sets of tyres.

Friday's second-fastest man and winner of the past two grands prix, Fernando Alonso, also gave little away ahead of qualifying - only moving up three spots to 16th on the soft rubber.


Chinese Grand Prix free practice session 3 times

1. HEIDFELD BMW 1m36.061s

2. HAMILTON McLaren 1m36.135s

3. KUBICA BMW 1m36.150s

4. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m36.324s

5. TRULLI Toyota 1m36.396s

6. ROSBERG Williams 1m36.427s

7. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m36.642s

8. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m36.712s

9. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m36.713s

10. PIQUET Renault 1m36.789s

11. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m36.839s

12. MASSA Ferrari 1m36.842s

13. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m36.901s

14. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m36.902s

15. BUTTON Honda 1m36.958s

16. ALONSO Renault 1m36.996s

17. GLOCK Toyota 1m37.053s

18. WEBBER Red Bull 1m37.566s

19. SUTIL Force India 1m37.648s

20. FISICHELLA Force India 1m37.964s

SOURCE: ITV-F1

QUALIFYING RESULTS:

Hamilton remained in dominant form throughout qualifying (although had some nervous moments), and Ferrari are finally back on the ball, Raikkonen seemingly going very light to try and put Hamilton off his game. Massa 3rd helps him in his battle against Lewis, whereas Kovalainen could only manage 5th behind Alonso.

Webber will drop to 16th after an engine change.

EDIT: Heidfeld drops to 10th after a penalty for an incident with DC. Story below.

HEIDFELD PENALISED FOR DC INCIDENT:

Nick Heidfeld has been demoted three grid places on the Chinese Grand Prix grid for impeding David Coulthard during qualifying.

Heidfeld overtook Coulthard going into the last corner of their respective out-laps prior to their final Q1 runs - only to abort his own flying lap when it became clear he would not improve his time.

Coulthard, who missed the cut for Q2 by less than a tenth of a second, was livid with Heidfeld afterwards, accusing him of "unsportsmanlike" driving and claiming the BMW driver had no intention of improving his time.

After deliberating over the incident for more than three hours, the stewards decided that Heidfeld was culpable and dropped him from sixth to ninth on the grid.

The penalty promotes Sebastian Vettel (Toro Rosso), Jarno Trulli (Toyota) and Sebastien Bourdais (Toro Rosso) to sixth, seventh and eighth places respectively.

SOURCE: ITV-F1

The fight goes on to Brazil, as Lewis takes his first "perfect weekend" of pole, win and fastest lap, with Massa 2nd with a dutiful Raikkonen 3rd. Robert Kubica is out of contention now, and Hamilton needs to finish 5th to secure the World Title no matter what Massa does, which is just the cushion the Brit needs considering Massa's strength at his home circuit.

All weekend we've had God on our side, as always...Lewis Hamilton

Hey, so maybe XSFX's right - maybe Lewis is Jesus after all. So if Ferrari have the FIA on their side, and McLaren has God on theirs, who's the higher power?

[QUOTE="Lewis Hamilton"]All weekend we've had God on our side, as always...Redders1989

Hey, so maybe XSFX's right - maybe Lewis is Jesus after all. So if Ferrari have the FIA on their side, and McLaren has God on theirs, who's the higher power?

Then it is a good thing I'm a Ferrari fan. Because I can't root for any diety that didn't live on a really big hill drinking wine all day with his numerous wives all whilst zapping other "lesser" dieties with his lightning bolts.

Any scientologists on the grid? :D

Well so far "God" hasn't interefered in any race, unless you want to say he started the rain in Spa. But then the FIA overrulled him anyway. So, advantage Ferrari for now :D

[QUOTE="Lewis Hamilton"]All weekend we've had God on our side, as always...Redders1989

Hey, so maybe XSFX's right - maybe Lewis is Jesus after all. So if Ferrari have the FIA on their side, and McLaren has God on theirs, who's the higher power?

:lol: Depends on how much money God has.