A few silly Target commercials featuring Alex Zanardi and Juan Montoya.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aGmJaBGr_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rqw7l_I28U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enxUNGmJetY
[QUOTE="dabest2500"]Here's a 2009 Season review:
2009 Season Review
Download 2009 Season Review
sambob530
Beginning of that: least deserved championship ever.
Why?
Do you think it was only luck?
I'm gonna post up here a few Videos that our Dear Martin Brundle has made for us over the years of coverage of F1, For our friends on the board who may not be so familiar with the workings of these cars. :)
Brundle takes out the Williams FW29 (2007 year)
Brundle shows Oversteer and Understeer with the RB1 (2005)
Brundle Compares his old 1992 Benneton with the 2000 Ferrari
Brundle and Blundell Demonstrate overtaking and slipstreaming
Brundle and Coulthard take out the Two seaters around the Yas Marina Circuit
Brundle Describing the F-duct
Brundle explaining Aerodynamics
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For the lol's I've found a few funny videos whilst on my hunt for some educational ones
Martin Brundle on TFI Friday explaining his 1996 melbourne Crash and also having a drinking incident
Mansell Races Alonso and.....
Brundle raps about Legard
[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]about equal with the 1997 championship.dabest2500
I don't see the relationship.
Possibly that both the 1997 and 2009 championships were won largely due to a massive car advantage rather than balls out racing like this years championship.
[QUOTE="dabest2500"][QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]about equal with the 1997 championship.KimisApprentice
I don't see the relationship.
Possibly that both the 1997 and 2009 championships were won largely due to a massive car advantage rather than balls out racing like this years championship.
I never watched any races before 2000.
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I feel that Button deserved to win, he had skill, but not the car.
He was great in the lower tiers and was struggling financially before Honda oofered him a seart, he had no option but to go.
He was a star in the lower tiers but then when he came to F1 he was a nobody.
This year he has impressed me alot more than in the past. In 2004 he had the 2nd best car for most of the year and demonstrated it by consistantly scoring podiums with the unbeatable Ferraris. Despite this he won no races, yet Trulli, Montoya and Raikkonen all scored wins in arguably inferior cars and all of them did it on raw speed - bar maybe Trulli who was helped by Montoya and Schumacher destroying each other in Monaco.
Again in 2009 he won 6 of the first 7 races, but for most of those races he has a car advantage worth 0.5 to 1 sec a lap in raw pace, after these 7 races he failed to podium for about 4 races while Barrichello managed to score wins when their competitors (Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren) had all integrated double diffusers into their cars and there was less or possibly no car advantage.Â
This year he has impressed me alot more than in the past. In 2004 he had the 2nd best car for most of the year and demonstrated it by consistantly scoring podiums with the unbeatable Ferraris. Despite this he won no races, yet Trulli, Montoya and Raikkonen all scored wins in arguably inferior cars and all of them did it on raw speed - bar maybe Trulli who was helped by Montoya and Schumacher destroying each other in Monaco.
Again in 2009 he won 6 of the first 7 races, but for most of those races he has a car advantage worth 0.5 to 1 sec a lap in raw pace, after these 7 races he failed to podium for about 4 races while Barrichello managed to score wins when their competitors (Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren) had all integrated double diffusers into their cars and there was less or possibly no car advantage.Â
KimisApprentice
So you're saying that Button won in 2009 because he had a better car?
Weren't most of them won like this?
There have been some incredible exceptions though.
I was very impressed when Hamilton took two wins from a horrible car though.
In my opinion had the car not had the same car advantage for as long as he did he would not have won the championship.KimisApprentice
Brawn GP simply took an advantage and maximised it's potential.
That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.KimisApprentice
Maybe it was pure intelligence that they managed to find a loophole and take advantage of it.
I can't remember what was supposed to have been dodgy on the 1994 benneton =/ Wasn't it the wings or floor? lolkipi19
Had TC when TC was banned.
[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.dabest2500
Maybe it was pure intelligence that they managed to find a loophole and take advantage of it.
Intelligence no doubt, apparently Super Aguri engineers though it up - the problem was that the double diffuser has holes in the area in which a normal diffuser is allowed but holes are not, at least holes that can be seen from a certain angle. I forget the actual wording of the rules and how they got around it but the other teams disregarded it due to the fact they thought the idea was illegal hence the protest last year.
[QUOTE="dabest2500"][QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.KimisApprentice
Maybe it was pure intelligence that they managed to find a loophole and take advantage of it.
Intelligence no doubt, apparently Super Aguri engineers though it up - the problem was that the double diffuser has holes in the area in which a normal diffuser is allowed but holes are not, at least holes that can be seen from a certain angle. I forget the actual wording of the rules and how they got around it but the other teams disregarded it due to the fact they thought the idea was illegal hence the protest last year.
BTW, In Australia which teams had it?
When did Red Bull get it?
And when did all the teams get it (if they ever did)?
BTW, In Australia which teams had it?
When did Red Bull get it?
And when did all the teams get it (if they ever did)?dabest2500
Brawn GP, Williams and Toyota all had the DDD for the entire season.
Red Bull had theirs by (I believe) Monaco.
And Everyone else got theirs all at different points, hard to remember whose came in when.
[QUOTE="dabest2500"]BTW, In Australia which teams had it?
When did Red Bull get it?
And when did all the teams get it (if they ever did)?Redders1989
Brawn GP, Williams and Toyota all had the DDD for the entire season.
Red Bull had theirs by (I believe) Monaco.
And Everyone else got theirs all at different points, hard to remember whose came in when.
So EVERY team definitely got it at some point?
All ten teams did have the DDD by the end of the year, yes. I believe STR were the last to add it on in Hungary.
All ten teams did have the DDD by the end of the year, yes. I believe STR were the last to add it on in Hungary.
Redders1989
Okay, thanks for the answers.
Thing is, Ross Brawn did point out the loophole to EVERY team in 2008 and suggested closing it up, but the teams all refused.Redders1989
Fishy if they refused to close it and refused to take advantage at the same time and protest it later unless they believed it was illegal. Red Bull and Renault both actually asked the FIA for a clarification in winter as to whether their interpretation of a double diffuser was legal and they were declared illegal. There was just way too much tooing and froing by the teams and the FIA which led to the whole mess. Either way, it don't matter now :)
[QUOTE="Redders1989"]Thing is, Ross Brawn did point out the loophole to EVERY team in 2008 and suggested closing it up, but the teams all refused.KimisApprentice
Fishy if they refused to close it and refused to take advantage at the same time and protest it later unless they believed it was illegal. Red Bull and Renault both actually asked the FIA for a clarification in winter as to whether their interpretation of a double diffuser was legal and they were declared illegal. There was just way too much tooing and froing by the teams and the FIA which led to the whole mess. Either way, it don't matter now :)
So if they declared it illegal, why did three teams use it at the beginning only for it to be declared legal?
Can I just say, if you wanna continue this discussion, please take it to the Random Formula One Posts thread please :)Redders1989
Okay.
You gotta love the Japanese ;)
Here.
dabest2500
He may have no chance of the driver's championship, but Jamie Alguersuari is in a shout for the title of Formula One's 'Dorifto Kingu'.
Thats pretty fanstatic stuff right there. More points for drifting I say :P
Oh, has anybody got footage of the Red Bull mechanics who apparently used drinks cans or something to have a boat race in the pit lane at this weekends Japanese Grand Prix?
Thats pretty fanstatic stuff right there. More points for drifting I say :P
Oh, has anybody got footage of the Red Bull mechanics who apparently used drinks cans or something to have a boat race in the pit lane at this weekends Japanese Grand Prix?
Garfield360UK
Um, I can only find this, and you need to forward to a certain point though :( :
Here
Ta for the links.Garfield360UK
No problem.
The BBC iPlayer one expires after a week though so you got until this Saturday.
Sir Jackie Stewart Teaching James May how DRIVE around Oultan Park on Top Gear
A must watch for any keen racing enthusiast
Richard Hammond takes out the Renault R25, and shows the old top gear saying..."How hard can it be?"
Honestly, how hard can it be?
Mika Hakkinen talks to James May about Car control, and "Sisu"
Also a must watch.
Look over Kimi's right hand shoulder at 0:27:
Raikkonen Spa Eau Rouge 2005
dabest2500
What are we looking at? I have paused it there but cant see anything in particular stand outish?
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