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#101 Redders1989
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Montoya is causing more trouble in America. See his latest act of idiocy in video 46.
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#102 Redders1989
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Video 47 is a quite humorous video of Barcelona testing. I believe the Macca boys just got pwned.
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#103 XSamFisherX
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Bruno Senna training for, something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIcrppPDqFI
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#104 Raikkonen2007
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Hamilton vs Petrov

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2kGNnGAcT0

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#105 General-Doug
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A few silly Target commercials featuring Alex Zanardi and Juan Montoya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aGmJaBGr_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Rqw7l_I28U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enxUNGmJetY

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#106 kipi19
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Mentioning Bad pit stops, Here's one from Indycar and Michael Andretti

Please note: If anyone does get shocked easily, you are warned this is a serious incident.

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#107 dabest2500
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Here's a 2009 Season review:

2009 Season Review

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#108 sambob530
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Here's a 2009 Season review:

2009 Season Review

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Beginning of that: least deserved championship ever.

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#109 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="dabest2500"]

Here's a 2009 Season review:

2009 Season Review

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Beginning of that: least deserved championship ever.

Why?

Do you think it was only luck?

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#110 KimisApprentice
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about equal with the 1997 championship.
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#111 dabest2500
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about equal with the 1997 championship.KimisApprentice

I don't see the relationship.

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#112 kipi19
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I'm gonna post up here a few Videos that our Dear Martin Brundle has made for us over the years of coverage of F1, For our friends on the board who may not be so familiar with the workings of these cars. :)

Brundle takes out the Williams FW29 (2007 year)

Brundle shows Oversteer and Understeer with the RB1 (2005)

Brundle Compares his old 1992 Benneton with the 2000 Ferrari

Brundle and Blundell Demonstrate overtaking and slipstreaming

Brundle and Coulthard take out the Two seaters around the Yas Marina Circuit

Brundle Describing the F-duct

Brundle explaining Aerodynamics

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For the lol's I've found a few funny videos whilst on my hunt for some educational ones

Martin Brundle on TFI Friday explaining his 1996 melbourne Crash and also having a drinking incident

Mansell Races Alonso and.....

Brundle raps about Legard

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#113 dabest2500
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This makes me quite sad:

This.

And, Ross Brawn at 1:55:

Do You Have To Keep Laughing?

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#114 KimisApprentice
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[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]about equal with the 1997 championship.dabest2500

I don't see the relationship.

Possibly that both the 1997 and 2009 championships were won largely due to a massive car advantage rather than balls out racing like this years championship.

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#115 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="dabest2500"]

[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]about equal with the 1997 championship.KimisApprentice

I don't see the relationship.

Possibly that both the 1997 and 2009 championships were won largely due to a massive car advantage rather than balls out racing like this years championship.

I never watched any races before 2000.

 

I feel that Button deserved to win, he had skill, but not the car.
He was great in the lower tiers and was struggling financially before Honda oofered him a seart, he had no option but to go.
He was a star in the lower tiers but then when he came to F1 he was a nobody.

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#116 KimisApprentice
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This year he has impressed me alot more than in the past. In 2004 he had the 2nd best car for most of the year and demonstrated it by consistantly scoring podiums with the unbeatable Ferraris. Despite this he won no races, yet Trulli, Montoya and Raikkonen all scored wins in arguably inferior cars and all of them did it on raw speed - bar maybe Trulli who was helped by Montoya and Schumacher destroying each other in Monaco.

Again in 2009 he won 6 of the first 7 races, but for most of those races he has a car advantage worth 0.5 to 1 sec a lap in raw pace, after these 7 races he failed to podium for about 4 races while Barrichello managed to score wins when their competitors (Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren) had all integrated double diffusers into their cars and there was less or possibly no car advantage. 

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#117 dabest2500
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This year he has impressed me alot more than in the past. In 2004 he had the 2nd best car for most of the year and demonstrated it by consistantly scoring podiums with the unbeatable Ferraris. Despite this he won no races, yet Trulli, Montoya and Raikkonen all scored wins in arguably inferior cars and all of them did it on raw speed - bar maybe Trulli who was helped by Montoya and Schumacher destroying each other in Monaco.

Again in 2009 he won 6 of the first 7 races, but for most of those races he has a car advantage worth 0.5 to 1 sec a lap in raw pace, after these 7 races he failed to podium for about 4 races while Barrichello managed to score wins when their competitors (Ferrari, Red Bull, McLaren) had all integrated double diffusers into their cars and there was less or possibly no car advantage. 

KimisApprentice

So you're saying that Button won in 2009 because he had a better car?
Weren't most of them won like this?
There have been some incredible exceptions though.
I was very impressed when Hamilton took two wins from a horrible car though.

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#118 KimisApprentice
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In my opinion had the car not had the same car advantage for as long as he did he would not have won the championship.
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#119 dabest2500
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In my opinion had the car not had the same car advantage for as long as he did he would not have won the championship.KimisApprentice

Brawn GP simply took an advantage and maximised it's potential.

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#120 KimisApprentice
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That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.
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#121 dabest2500
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That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.KimisApprentice

Maybe it was pure intelligence that they managed to find a loophole and take advantage of it.

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#122 kipi19
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I can't remember what was supposed to have been dodgy on the 1994 benneton =/ Wasn't it the wings or floor? lol
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#123 Redders1989
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I can't remember what was supposed to have been dodgy on the 1994 benneton =/ Wasn't it the wings or floor? lolkipi19

Had TC when TC was banned.

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#124 kipi19
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Ahhh yea, I heard the FIA went through the software and found remnants of it and questioned Benneton's legality of it, Wasn't the Ferrari also quetioned at the time for the same thing?
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#125 kipi19
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A kind Michael Schumacher in 1997

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#126 KimisApprentice
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[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.dabest2500

Maybe it was pure intelligence that they managed to find a loophole and take advantage of it.

Intelligence no doubt, apparently Super Aguri engineers though it up - the problem was that the double diffuser has holes in the area in which a normal diffuser is allowed but holes are not, at least holes that can be seen from a certain angle. I forget the actual wording of the rules and how they got around it but the other teams disregarded it due to the fact they thought the idea was illegal hence the protest last year.

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#127 Redders1989
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Thing is, Ross Brawn did point out the loophole to EVERY team in 2008 and suggested closing it up, but the teams all refused.
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#128 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="dabest2500"]

[QUOTE="KimisApprentice"]That would have been fine, had the car advantage not been so dubious as the double diffuser whose legality was questionable given the rules and hence was only designed by three teams while being disregarded by some of the sports biggest names. For this reason I don't disregard Schumacher's titles (bar the 1994 with the semi-dodgy Benetton and clash with Damon Hill) - the Ferrari was not of dubious legality at any point.KimisApprentice

Maybe it was pure intelligence that they managed to find a loophole and take advantage of it.

Intelligence no doubt, apparently Super Aguri engineers though it up - the problem was that the double diffuser has holes in the area in which a normal diffuser is allowed but holes are not, at least holes that can be seen from a certain angle. I forget the actual wording of the rules and how they got around it but the other teams disregarded it due to the fact they thought the idea was illegal hence the protest last year.

BTW, In Australia which teams had it?
When did Red Bull get it?
And when did all the teams get it (if they ever did)?

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#129 Redders1989
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BTW, In Australia which teams had it?
When did Red Bull get it?
And when did all the teams get it (if they ever did)?dabest2500

Brawn GP, Williams and Toyota all had the DDD for the entire season.
Red Bull had theirs by (I believe) Monaco.
And Everyone else got theirs all at different points, hard to remember whose came in when.

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#130 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="dabest2500"]BTW, In Australia which teams had it?
When did Red Bull get it?
And when did all the teams get it (if they ever did)?Redders1989

Brawn GP, Williams and Toyota all had the DDD for the entire season.
Red Bull had theirs by (I believe) Monaco.
And Everyone else got theirs all at different points, hard to remember whose came in when.

So EVERY team definitely got it at some point?

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#132 Redders1989
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All ten teams did have the DDD by the end of the year, yes. I believe STR were the last to add it on in Hungary.

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#133 dabest2500
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All ten teams did have the DDD by the end of the year, yes. I believe STR were the last to add it on in Hungary.

Redders1989

Okay, thanks for the answers.

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#134 KimisApprentice
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Thing is, Ross Brawn did point out the loophole to EVERY team in 2008 and suggested closing it up, but the teams all refused.Redders1989

Fishy if they refused to close it and refused to take advantage at the same time and protest it later unless they believed it was illegal. Red Bull and Renault both actually asked the FIA for a clarification in winter as to whether their interpretation of a double diffuser was legal and they were declared illegal. There was just way too much tooing and froing by the teams and the FIA which led to the whole mess. Either way, it don't matter now :)

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#135 dabest2500
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[QUOTE="Redders1989"]Thing is, Ross Brawn did point out the loophole to EVERY team in 2008 and suggested closing it up, but the teams all refused.KimisApprentice

Fishy if they refused to close it and refused to take advantage at the same time and protest it later unless they believed it was illegal. Red Bull and Renault both actually asked the FIA for a clarification in winter as to whether their interpretation of a double diffuser was legal and they were declared illegal. There was just way too much tooing and froing by the teams and the FIA which led to the whole mess. Either way, it don't matter now :)

So if they declared it illegal, why did three teams use it at the beginning only for it to be declared legal?

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#136 Redders1989
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Can I just say, if you wanna continue this discussion, please take it to the Random Formula One Posts thread please :)
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#137 dabest2500
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Can I just say, if you wanna continue this discussion, please take it to the Random Formula One Posts thread please :)Redders1989

Okay.

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#138 dabest2500
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You gotta love the Japanese ;)

Here.

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#139 General-Doug
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You gotta love the Japanese ;)

Here.

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He may have no chance of the driver's championship, but Jamie Alguersuari is in a shout for the title of Formula One's 'Dorifto Kingu'.

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#140 garfield360uk
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Thats pretty fanstatic stuff right there. More points for drifting I say :P

Oh, has anybody got footage of the Red Bull mechanics who apparently used drinks cans or something to have a boat race in the pit lane at this weekends Japanese Grand Prix?

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#141 dabest2500
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Thats pretty fanstatic stuff right there. More points for drifting I say :P

Oh, has anybody got footage of the Red Bull mechanics who apparently used drinks cans or something to have a boat race in the pit lane at this weekends Japanese Grand Prix?

Garfield360UK

Um, I can only find this, and you need to forward to a certain point though :( :

Here

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#142 dabest2500
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Kobayashi = Leeroy Jenkins:

Here.

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#143 garfield360uk
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Ta for the links.
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#144 dabest2500
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Ta for the links.Garfield360UK

No problem.

The BBC iPlayer one expires after a week though so you got until this Saturday.

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#145 kipi19
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Sir Jackie Stewart Teaching James May how DRIVE around Oultan Park on Top Gear
A must watch for any keen racing enthusiast

Richard Hammond takes out the Renault R25, and shows the old top gear saying..."How hard can it be?"
Honestly, how hard can it be?

Mika Hakkinen talks to James May about Car control, and "Sisu"
Also a must watch.

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#146 kipi19
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Canada 2008, Raikkonen/Hamilton, REAL radio transmission
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#147 dabest2500
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Look over Kimi's right hand shoulder at 0:27:

Raikkonen Spa Eau Rouge 2005

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#148 garfield360uk
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Look over Kimi's right hand shoulder at 0:27:

Raikkonen Spa Eau Rouge 2005

dabest2500

What are we looking at? I have paused it there but cant see anything in particular stand outish?

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#149 KimisApprentice
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Just the view of how far up he is once he goes through Eu Rouge, it's no small incline.
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#150 kipi19
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That is one epic hill :P