i honestly don't think so because if you can have a look at the onboard camera...you can see that he just had too much speed, it was a genuine mistake, everybody makes mistakes, if they don't then they are not human. and he lost the rear end, so he had to brake in a straight line and he did lock up his brakes...i mean come on...u can't calculate if you lock up your brakes that you will park right infront of the brarrier...its too much of a coincidence to be on purpose....i think it was a mistake...and it is also proven by the fact of his quick reaction to changing the direction of steering...
I think he did do that on purpose, the way he went through that corner was quite odd but from the replay it looked to me that he could have made the corner. Schumacher can be very very cunning indeed at times and this looks like one of those moments and even looking at his behaviour during the persconference I would say he definitly faked that error. But there is only one person who knows and that is Schumacher him self.
Edit: well I just found the video to have another look at that, and I must say he wasnt going to quickt at all but he was to tight though. But I still think he could have made it.
Have a look your self. Schumi incident
Edit 2: Video 2 (with commentary you can actually understand)
M. Shmuacher is a very experienced and a very talented driver, therefore he's too good to make such a mistake accidently. And judging from the replay, I think that he could've avoided that accident if he wanted.
I'm not surprised though; because Ferrai (read: Michael and Brown) can be very very cunning at time, just like what cm_gamer-2 said above. (no offence to Ferrari fans!)
He deserves more then just the back of the grid. Michael did that on purpose, no question asked. The guy is way to good to have a accident like that.
EDIT: SPEEDTV was just showing a replay of F1 qualifying and I heard something that is not mentioned in the youtube footage Jamie provided. I believe it was David Hobbs, spelled wrong I'm sure & not exactly sure it was him, mentions that Schumacher was famous for doing things just like that when he was in both Formula 3 & carting.
Did Michael have the Accident at La Rascasse on purpose because he can't take losing anymore or was it a genuine driver mistake.
i want people to be honest.
kipi19
It wasn't even a mistake he lost a bit o grip at the rear of the car (see TV bird view camera) and he try to correct it (see onboard camera, stering wheel). This is my view, those that can't see it never raced. Thou the course marshals did a big mistake not showing the red flag as the regulations tells to do. Thou the marshals did use the last 5 minutes rule per each 15 minutes on qualifying to put marshals on the course with 'racing ' cars like the renault of Alonso. article 125: "Should it become necessary to stop practice because the circuit is blocked by an accident or because weather or other conditions make it dangerous to continue, the clerk of the course will order red flags to be shown at all marshal posts and the abort lights to be shown at the line." The race organization did a very poor job here.
Iam a F1 fan no fav driver to win races or champ. My fav driver was Gilles and now i only vote for Ferrari because of Gilles. If Ferrari wins the C.Champ iam happy and i will party here.
i reckon he did it on purpose, sure he was carrying speed and apparently locked up the tires a bit but i reckon he used this to mask it as a genuene mistake
i have a question for all the people who think it was done on purpose, just a question. does a mistake in monaco always have to end up with a crash?! Rascasse is a slow corner and schumi accelerated too much and got some oversteer, it shows and his reactions to it were quick, it didn't happen before and i was watching it when it happened, and i thuoght he was going to crash into the barriers and i think he touched i can't remember. Look at davidsons crash, he got massive understeer into corner 1 during practice session and he crashed, schumi got both oversteer, corrected it adn then got understeer thats at least what i remember....AND massa, and davidson crashed on much faster corners. Kubica crashed on the same corner as schumi "cheated" but Kubica lost traction after he finished the curve, i.e. after the apex and smacked his rear end into the wall, but honestly answer this question everybody: Do all mistakes at monaco have to end up with a crash?
schumacar did it on purpose.the who;e weakend alonso was dominating and i think that ross braun said over the radio that alonso was on very fast lap and i think he felt it was the only way of beating him was to slow it down.he should have crashed which makes it more realistic that he did stop to slow down alonso.
anyway i think micheal regrets the whole thing.if he wins then people will just blame it on that incident in qualifying
Come on Simsim, look at the video, he had plenty of room to get the car round the corner, if he took his foot off the throttle and was full lock, he would of made it, instead he chose not to
Did Michael have the Accident at La Rascasse on purpose because he can't take losing anymore or was it a genuine driver mistake.
i want people to be honest.
Mekanaizer
It wasn't even a mistake he lost a bit o grip at the rear of the car (see TV bird view camera) and he try to correct it (see onboard camera, stering wheel). This is my view, those that can't see it never raced. Thou the course marshals did a big mistake not showing the red flag as the regulations tells to do. Thou the marshals did use the last 5 minutes rule per each 15 minutes on qualifying to put marshals on the course with 'racing ' cars like the renault of Alonso. article 125: "Should it become necessary to stop practice because the circuit is blocked by an accident or because weather or other conditions make it dangerous to continue, the clerk of the course will order red flags to be shown at all marshal posts and the abort lights to be shown at the line." The race organization did a very poor job here.
Iam a F1 fan no fav driver to win races or champ. My fav driver was Gilles and now i only vote for Ferrari because of Gilles. If Ferrari wins the C.Champ iam happy and i will party here.
What FIA need is a Enzo Ferrari to shake FIA a little bit. Like Enzo did in 80's when he said to 'FIA' that he was going to quit F1 and moving to Indy. Ferrari got a full functional Indy car at the end 'FIA' almost knee under Ferrari. A last thing its not the driver nor the cars that handicap F1 its the rules. They go by the book for somethings but for others they don't. One last thing, at the GP of Spain Montoya got out of the race and course marshals removed his car but no Safety-Car was out. A FIA rule got broken: Safety-Car rule. Does anyone comment this? FIA? 'FIA' why didn't you stop the qualifying as your own rules tells too? Where is the old FIA? To me what F1 need is a new organization to rule it.
Read the Safety-Car rule here: http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/f1regs.html
Good for Webber for saying that. I would like to give Michael the benefit of the doubt because he is a great driver but losing has a weird effect on some people and maybe he was at his wits end with Alonso beating him.
but kipi.....can';t oversteer happen at 30mph? jus askingsimsimnfs
I quote the following from Wikipedia : " Oversteer in low speed turns is often reduced or eliminated electronically through traction control (if the sanctioning body allows their use) ".
And since 30mph is a very low speed, I say that oversteer would not happen at such a low speed especially in a capable car like the Ferrari.
thanks aloushi, your explanation made more sense to me than kipi, kipi just confused me by saying hell no and that aerodynamics and traction control don't work at low speeds which sends a contradicting message to me...btu thanx to the both of you for explainin it to me :) i appreciate it...
thanks aloushi, your explanation made more sense to me than kipi, kipi just confused me by saying hell no and that aerodynamics and traction control don't work at low speeds which sends a contradicting message to me...btu thanx to the both of you for explainin it to me :) i appreciate it...simsimnfs
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