Do it again!

With the release of Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children we've seen that Square Enix can create some intense action sequences through film. We all know the first attempt in the movie industry with Final Fantasy: Spirits Within was some what disappointing for many. But! Could Square Enix do it again if creating a film that was just called Final Fantasy? I believe that a good script and storyline would improve on the success of such a movie. I would definitely like to see Final Fantasy on the big screen again.

There are several videogame[and comic] film adaptations in production. When it comes to both 2D and 3D animation on the big screen we've seen more "wholesome" forms of entertainment for all ages. Surprisingly the influence of animation overseas hasn't grasp Hollywood. You look at anime such as Cowboy Bebop which has broken a lot of cultural barriers in terms of artistic and musical concept.

And then here comes Blizzard Entertainment. If you have seen the opening sequences to World of Warcraft(Seasons of War), and the Burning Crusade you know what the company could be capable of regarding the upcoming film adaptation of the Warcraft universe(it's not been revealed about the direction they will be taking regarding 3D animation or live-action). I personally believe that Square Enix should step up to the plate again and try another swing at a film with Hollywood in mind.

Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much betterfs_metal

your the first person i've heard of that liked spirt within more than advent children. :shock:

but in anwser to the topic, im not to sure about another FF film??? it could be good or poor it depends on what story they give it.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much better-Phaz-

your the first person i've heard of that liked spirt within more than advent children. :shock:

but in anwser to the topic, im not to sure about another FF film??? it could be good or poor it depends on what story they give it.

people say Advent Children is only for those who have played FF7, well i doubt many other people would actually watch it if you havent played FFVII. its why i found it better than Spirts Within because you straight away knew all the characters (except kudaj ect.) which made it easier to grab the story.

Spirts Within, i personally found boring (dont flame me) just my opinion.

I really would savor upon the idea that Advent Children could hit the big sceen in the nearby future. It will appeal mostly to those those who have appreciated the FF series and in particular FFVII, and will enthusiast those who are yet to realize the beauty of the final fantasy universe.

Agree with Phaz on that one: that Spirits within is just plain boring. :) Well just my opinion!

No. Originality is pretty much dead in Hollywood(hence all the videogame adaptions). I don't want to see another FF movie. I want to see something original with good characters and a good story. I don't want to see another movie based on a book, videogame, or telivision show, I just want something original. Have I made my point clear enough?ZeroWingEvil91

Wow, really? You want an original movie? You must be the only one in the whole world. I bet if you made movies, they'd all be tottaly original and creative and everyone would love your movies. I think reading your post has changed my life for the better. Thank you, for being such a great person. I'm rolling on the floor, crying in joy. Such revelations.

Anyway, I thought Spirits Within was to boring to hold my attention. AC story was weak, but it was a movie I'm glad I watched.

I don't feel that they should do another movie based on the same universe as Final Fantasy (or anything in the past). I agree completely with Zero that an original story should be the possible focus of another movie if they (SquareEnix) were to try again. Completely independent from their franchises. However I did find Spirits Within very enjoyable to watch...I wouldn't say it was a good movie but it was enjoyable.

For the people who found it AC confusing and slow...Advent Children was a movie made SOLELY for fans of the francshise and not as a project that would be produced and distributed for the entire movie going population (that's what Spirits Within was for and it didn't do all that well). ALL aspects of the movie (AC) were based on the prediction that you had played and understood the storyline, characters, and abilities of the characters of Final Fantasy VII.

I also have a question to the people who were complaining about the lack of realism in Advent Children. Firstly it's called "suspension of disbelief".You knew it was a movie based on a video game with the word "Fantasy" in it? I'm pretty sure that if you didn't like the movie due to the lack of realism than you must really not like the game(s). Fireballs coming out of a person's hands, lasers shooting out of swords, huge meteors being stopped by glowing green lights, and talking red dogs aren't exactly within the realm of modern physics either. It surprises me that members of a Union dedicated to the Fans of Final Fantasy are commenting on the realism of anything.

I also agree on the originality angle, movies are getting very uncreative nowadays, its all adaptations or spinoffs or an exact copy of a book, game, or whatever.  If another FF movie were to come out I would want it to be an original, which is why I respect what they did with Spirits Within, a completely new storyline and characters.  It didn't do well because there was no real reference to FF in it......it just seemed like another Fantasy/Sci-Fi movie with Final Fantasy slapped on it. 

AC had characters that people could refer and relate to, and it was based on one of the most popular video games of all time.  So, it did better in sales and overall appeal, its been years since I watched Spirits Within, I'm sure if I watched it now I would appreciate it more.  Back when I first watched it I was expecting something more related to FF, which it wasn't really from what I recall.  I would have to watch it again to choose a winner between the two, for myself, right now I like AC more.

Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much betterfs_metal

Im sorry I have to disagree with you I think "Spirits Within" Sucked

I like Advent children way more :)

[QUOTE="ZeroWingEvil91"]No. Originality is pretty much dead in Hollywood(hence all the videogame adaptions). I don't want to see another FF movie. I want to see something original with good characters and a good story. I don't want to see another movie based on a book, videogame, or telivision show, I just want something original. Have I made my point clear enough?Calebman

Wow, really? You want an original movie? You must be the only one in the whole world. I bet if you made movies, they'd all be tottaly original and creative and everyone would love your movies. I think reading your post has changed my life for the better. Thank you, for being such a great person. I'm rolling on the floor, crying in joy. Such revelations.

Anyway, I thought Spirits Within was to boring to hold my attention. AC story was weak, but it was a movie I'm glad I watched.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much betterredman100111

Im sorry I have to disagree with you I think "Spirits Within" Sucked

I like Advent children way more :)

[QUOTE="-Phaz-"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much betterfs_metal

your the first person i've heard of that liked spirt within more than advent children. :shock:

but in anwser to the topic, im not to sure about another FF film??? it could be good or poor it depends on what story they give it.

Spirit Within had too much story in it, while Advent Children had more fighting scenes in it. Spirit Within had too much, 'robots' into it. boring....

I actually liked both but yes even for me it took me a couple of views to understand what advent was about and I played FF7 like too many times to mention, Spirit Within had a better storyline tho in my opinion but these two movies cannot really be compared, they are both very different genres.JustQuest

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much bettercloudstrife145

your the first person i've heard of that liked spirt within more than advent children. :shock:

but in anwser to the topic, im not to sure about another FF film??? it could be good or poor it depends on what story they give it.

Spirit Within had too much story in it, while Advent Children had more fighting scenes in it. Spirit Within had too much, 'robots' into it. boring....

I also agree on the originality angle, movies are getting very uncreative nowadays, its all adaptations or spinoffs or an exact copy of a book, game, or whatever.  If another FF movie were to come out I would want it to be an original, which is why I respect what they did with Spirits Within, a completely new storyline and characters.  It didn't do well because there was no real reference to FF in it......it just seemed like another Fantasy/Sci-Fi movie with Final Fantasy slapped on it. 

AC had characters that people could refer and relate to, and it was based on one of the most popular video games of all time.  So, it did better in sales and overall appeal, its been years since I watched Spirits Within, I'm sure if I watched it now I would appreciate it more.  Back when I first watched it I was expecting something more related to FF, which it wasn't really from what I recall.  I would have to watch it again to choose a winner between the two, for myself, right now I like AC more.

kryu88

[QUOTE="cloudstrife145"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much betterZeroWingEvil91

your the first person i've heard of that liked spirt within more than advent children. :shock:

but in anwser to the topic, im not to sure about another FF film??? it could be good or poor it depends on what story they give it.

Spirit Within had too much story in it, while Advent Children had more fighting scenes in it. Spirit Within had too much, 'robots' into it. boring....

they both had a story, but a good FF movie will have tons of fighting scenes in it!

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Advent Children is not a good movie. The Spirit Within was much bettercloudstrife145

your the first person i've heard of that liked spirt within more than advent children. :shock:

but in anwser to the topic, im not to sure about another FF film??? it could be good or poor it depends on what story they give it.

Spirit Within had too much story in it, while Advent Children had more fighting scenes in it. Spirit Within had too much, 'robots' into it. boring....

[QUOTE="kryu88"]

I also agree on the originality angle, movies are getting very uncreative nowadays, its all adaptations or spinoffs or an exact copy of a book, game, or whatever. If another FF movie were to come out I would want it to be an original, which is why I respect what they did with Spirits Within, a completely new storyline and characters. It didn't do well because there was no real reference to FF in it......it just seemed like another Fantasy/Sci-Fi movie with Final Fantasy slapped on it.

AC had characters that people could refer and relate to, and it was based on one of the most popular video games of all time. So, it did better in sales and overall appeal, its been years since I watched Spirits Within, I'm sure if I watched it now I would appreciate it more. Back when I first watched it I was expecting something more related to FF, which it wasn't really from what I recall. I would have to watch it again to choose a winner between the two, for myself, right now I like AC more.

omega235

[QUOTE="omega235"][QUOTE="kryu88"]

I also agree on the originality angle, movies are getting very uncreative nowadays, its all adaptations or spinoffs or an exact copy of a book, game, or whatever. If another FF movie were to come out I would want it to be an original, which is why I respect what they did with Spirits Within, a completely new storyline and characters. It didn't do well because there was no real reference to FF in it......it just seemed like another Fantasy/Sci-Fi movie with Final Fantasy slapped on it.

AC had characters that people could refer and relate to, and it was based on one of the most popular video games of all time. So, it did better in sales and overall appeal, its been years since I watched Spirits Within, I'm sure if I watched it now I would appreciate it more. Back when I first watched it I was expecting something more related to FF, which it wasn't really from what I recall. I would have to watch it again to choose a winner between the two, for myself, right now I like AC more.

ZeroWingEvil91

No. The action is not even plausable, so it is just absurdfs_metal

I explained earlier why the battles are not good ones, from a technical standpoint.fs_metal

if you want a film that obeys the laws of nature (physics) as you stated earlier why did you even bother watching AC? you most likely have played FFVII, so you know they cast fire from their hands or summon dragons. one of the spells they can do also being Gravity

I believe the reason you didnt like it because they jump ridiculous heights and the ect. but then you also drawn to the main title of Final Fantasy, Fantasy meaning something that is not true or make believe which counts towards their possible weaker gravity.

and as Fantasy goes, SW wasnt that realistic, possible mre realistic than AC.

I'm not having a go at you liking SW more i'm just stating the facts.

Well part of me has to agree completley with that statement, I for one did not like AC either, even though its final fantasy, its seemed far far fetched, to the point were u say to yourself "bah.. alright comon man are u serious" lol the only example i can think in comparison with another movie wuold have to be The Transoprter flicks lol, i think that by far the bahamut fight was just way to exaggerated.

On another note,  The story in AC wasent that great either, it felt like a sloped up after story made quickly just so the "ff 7 CGI Move" would have sumthing to hold it together, it was purley made to cater to the ff7 junkies who dont know crap about film making, and are easily pleased by "Asome effects" i for one was not satisfied, and personaly, sephiroth was just a cameo in my opinon and the very end, with a lowsly finish.

Im not going to go as far as saying Spirits within was WAY better... however at least sprirts within had proper film making qualities... to this day i still say that the obnly reason it wasent successful (aside from the slight bore it had wich could have easily been fixed) was the simple fact that it had Final Fantasy tagged on it, and that created an expectation from all the fans, and they smashed it to peices just because they werent given what they wanted and expected, the movie had a very interessting concept and the CGI/RealPerson fusion had never been done b4 and was quite revolutionary in cinematogrophy to say the least.

:the statement i was reffering to was fs metals eirler page

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I explained earlier why the battles are not good ones, from a technical standpoint.-Phaz-

if you want a film that obeys the laws of nature (physics) as you stated earlier why did you even bother watching AC? you most likely have played FFVII, so you know they cast fire from their hands or summon dragons. one of the spells they can do also being Gravity

I believe the reason you didnt like it because they jump ridiculous heights and the ect. but then you also drawn to the main title of Final Fantasy, Fantasy meaning something that is not true or make believe which counts towards their possible weaker gravity.

and as Fantasy goes, SW wasnt that realistic, possible mre realistic than AC.

I'm not having a go at you liking SW more i'm just stating the facts.

[QUOTE="omega235"][QUOTE="kryu88"]

I also agree on the originality angle, movies are getting very uncreative nowadays, its all adaptations or spinoffs or an exact copy of a book, game, or whatever. If another FF movie were to come out I would want it to be an original, which is why I respect what they did with Spirits Within, a completely new storyline and characters. It didn't do well because there was no real reference to FF in it......it just seemed like another Fantasy/Sci-Fi movie with Final Fantasy slapped on it.

AC had characters that people could refer and relate to, and it was based on one of the most popular video games of all time. So, it did better in sales and overall appeal, its been years since I watched Spirits Within, I'm sure if I watched it now I would appreciate it more. Back when I first watched it I was expecting something more related to FF, which it wasn't really from what I recall. I would have to watch it again to choose a winner between the two, for myself, right now I like AC more.

ZeroWingEvil91

[QUOTE="-Phaz-"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I explained earlier why the battles are not good ones, from a technical standpoint.fs_metal

if you want a film that obeys the laws of nature (physics) as you stated earlier why did you even bother watching AC? you most likely have played FFVII, so you know they cast fire from their hands or summon dragons. one of the spells they can do also being Gravity

I believe the reason you didnt like it because they jump ridiculous heights and the ect. but then you also drawn to the main title of Final Fantasy, Fantasy meaning something that is not true or make believe which counts towards their possible weaker gravity.

and as Fantasy goes, SW wasnt that realistic, possible mre realistic than AC.

I'm not having a go at you liking SW more i'm just stating the facts.

ok well this is getting tiresome, Science Fiction (Sci-Fi) other names are Make Believe & Fantasy. Yes they do obey the laws of physics in LotR, but that is only example, true i can not think of any other films that disobey the law of physics. but that just makes it more one of a kind.

As for being far-fetched for a Sci-Fi, most Sci-Fi films are far-fetched, its part of what makes them Sci-fi.

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

Calebman

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I explained earlier why the battles are not good ones, from a technical standpoint.-Phaz-

if you want a film that obeys the laws of nature (physics) as you stated earlier why did you even bother watching AC? you most likely have played FFVII, so you know they cast fire from their hands or summon dragons. one of the spells they can do also being Gravity

I believe the reason you didnt like it because they jump ridiculous heights and the ect. but then you also drawn to the main title of Final Fantasy, Fantasy meaning something that is not true or make believe which counts towards their possible weaker gravity.

and as Fantasy goes, SW wasnt that realistic, possible mre realistic than AC.

I'm not having a go at you liking SW more i'm just stating the facts.

ok well this is getting tiresome, Science Fiction (Sci-Fi) other names are Make Believe & Fantasy. Yes they do obey the laws of physics in LotR, but that is only example, true i can not think of any other films that disobey the law of physics. but that just makes it more one of a kind.

As for being far-fetched for a Sci-Fi, most Sci-Fi films are far-fetched, its part of what makes them Sci-fi.

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

Calebman

[QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

fs_metal

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.

[QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

fs_metal

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

-Phaz-

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.

[QUOTE="-Phaz-"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

fs_metal

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

Rizhall456

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.

[QUOTE="Rizhall456"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

WhiteFlame-XIII

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

Rizhall456

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.

[QUOTE="Rizhall456"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="-Phaz-"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Calebman"]

Hey, you know what my favorite part of AC was? The motorcycle fight. Damn that was cool.

Anyway, Hitchhikers guide is not an orginal movie as I believe someone else stated. It's based on a book. Although I did like the movie.

fs_metal

he didnt die? you see him at the end in the church, and aslong as the action sequences are good (which i believe they are) then i dont care if they do stuff that you might say is inpossible.