Things that could have made FFXII better.

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]I don't need to. The video does it for me. We've already established this. If you aren't going to bother reading what I type, why are you here? Why do you post on forums id you do not read?fs_metal

I read what you're typing, but the FACT is that you don't have proof to back up what you're saying. I've seen the fu cking trailer, I've stated my opinions on it, but you won't shut the hell up and leave it at that. You insist on attacking everyone's opinions on what they think the trailer is.

SHOW ME THE STATEMENT!!! NOT YOUR WORDS!!!

My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherfs_metal

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherSony_FanBoy

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherfs_metal

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

I'm not begging for anything. If you're so sure of you're self, find the statement and prove it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a statement that I know doesn't exist. You say it's fact, if it's fact then there should be a statement where Sqaure said that the trailer was CG, which there's not. Meaning there is no fact to your statement.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherSony_FanBoy

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

I'm not begging for anything. If you're so sure of you're self, find the statement and prove it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a statement that I know doesn't exist. You say it's fact, if it's fact then there should be a statement where Sqaure said that the trailer was CG, which there's not. Meaning there is no fact to your statement.

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherfs_metal

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

I'm not begging for anything. If you're so sure of you're self, find the statement and prove it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a statement that I know doesn't exist. You say it's fact, if it's fact then there should be a statement where Sqaure said that the trailer was CG, which there's not. Meaning there is no fact to your statement.

Where the hell is your proof? The video? You say its all CG, another person says it isnt? Neither one of you has anything to back it up; its all speculation. Not proof.

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherfs_metal

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

I'm not begging for anything. If you're so sure of you're self, find the statement and prove it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a statement that I know doesn't exist. You say it's fact, if it's fact then there should be a statement where Sqaure said that the trailer was CG, which there's not. Meaning there is no fact to your statement.

I'm not begging. I'm telling you to prove that you're right. Find the statement that says the trailer was CG. You're saying it's fact. Yet there is nothing saying the it is CG, which means it can't be fact. If it's not fact it's your opinion.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]My suggestion to you is to quit being lazy and find it for yourself. There are probably 5 million copies of it on Youtube. Gametrailers, IGN, Gamevideos, Gamespot and 1up should all have copies of it as well. There is the statement. The video itself. You still aren't listening and I doubt you will read this eitherSony_FanBoy

You're hopeless. The trailer isn't the statement.

I'm not begging for anything. If you're so sure of you're self, find the statement and prove it. I'm not going to waste my time trying to find a statement that I know doesn't exist. You say it's fact, if it's fact then there should be a statement where Sqaure said that the trailer was CG, which there's not. Meaning there is no fact to your statement.

I'm not begging. I'm telling you to prove that you're right. Find the statement that says the trailer was CG. You're saying it's fact. Yet there is nothing saying the it is CG, which means it can't be fact. If it's not fact it's your opinion.

Geeze give it up would you. If their is no proof to say its all CG then you can't claim that its fact that it is. So anyway i think that FFXII would of been better if instead of making the optional boss battle so long they made them stronger as i don't have the patience to spend so long fighting a single enemy.

It's funny how you always do that whenever you're cornered, fs.

I guess what you say could be true, since I don't know myself. However, how is the video itself proof of anything ? The trailer is CG, that's what you claim, but how can you prove that ? Unless the video or some other sources clearly says so, you can't prove it using the video itself.

That's like saying: "You're wrong. And the proof is.....your statement. Because it is wrong." You're not proving anything, you're just avoiding the burden of proof in the most childish way possible.

I just watched the video. 95% of it is clearly CG, however, if you look closely starting at 25 seconds for about 10 seconds, you notice the graphics are different, plus you see the in-game menus. Be sure to look at Lightning's hair. In the CG parts, you can see the individual strands of hair moving around. In the in-game part, it moves more as a whole and not as detailed.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6928221524061217382&hl=en

That video isn't the hightest quality, but you can still tell. It would probably be even more obvious if I could get to a higher quality video than the one uploaded to google.

You're right fs, the proof is in the video.

It's funny how you always do that whenever you're cornered, fs.

I guess what you say could be true, since I don't know myself. However, how is the video itself proof of anything ? The trailer is CG, that's what you claim, but how can you prove that ? Unless the video or some other sources clearly says so, you can't prove it using the video itself.

That's like saying: "You're wrong. And the proof is.....your statement. Because it is wrong." You're not proving anything, you're just avoiding the burden of proof in the most childish way possible.

NWA_31

Thank you. I tried to point this out, but he doesn't listen and then starts saying that "you're not listening to want I say so why are you here". Anyway, I stand by my OPINION that the trailer is not 100% CG.

Oh but it is. Just watch itfs_metal

The video doesn't prove you're right. The video doesn't really prove anything, I want the statement.

The video is the statement and it proves everythingfs_metal

Whatever.

goin bk a bit, im a philosopher, dnt bother, i ws drunk, id have writen you an essay if i wanted a response lol...(i wonder if fs_metal is drunk most of the time)...

here and now, topics gone, is there a way to close them or not, bcus, after a while someone provokes fs_metal and others into going off topic, and you go into them thinkin you have something to say and hardly anyone will listen when you do since the majority have gone off on a wild tangent...

it's quite trivial but did anyone hate catching those big chicken things, I know it was optional, but you do want to do everything and its flippin annoyin...

Hmmm...ignoring the argument...

there was some focus on the characters, but I wish they could have had more focus on your characters. They weren't memorable characters for me. With most of the focus on the war and all, I found it harder to learn anything about the people I was controlling throughout the whole game. With less focus on teh characters, I could not connect to them as much, and therefore not care for them as much. I didn't care what happened to vaan, Balthier, fran, Ashe, Basch, or peneloin the end. :?

goin bk a bit, im a philosopher, dnt bother, i ws drunk, id have writen you an essay if i wanted a response lol...(i wonder if fs_metal is drunk most of the time)...

here and now, topics gone, is there a way to close them or not, bcus, after a while someone provokes fs_metal and others into going off topic, and you go into them thinkin you have something to say and hardly anyone will listen when you do since the majority have gone off on a wild tangent...

it's quite trivial but did anyone hate catching those big chicken things, I know it was optional, but you do want to do everything and its flippin annoyin...

A_Fading_Scream

Hmmm...ignoring the argument...

there was some focus on the characters, but I wish they could have had more focus on your characters. They weren't memorable characters for me. With most of the focus on the war and all, I found it harder to learn anything about the people I was controlling throughout the whole game. With less focus on teh characters, I could not connect to them as much, and therefore not care for them as much. I didn't care what happened to vaan, Balthier, fran, Ashe, Basch, or peneloin the end. :?

DJ-Lafleur

Why do you ignore the arguments? I think it's pretty funny to watch.(and sometimes join in:P)

I just watched the video. 95% of it is clearly CG, however, if you look closely starting at 25 seconds for about 10 seconds, you notice the graphics are different, plus you see the in-game menus. Be sure to look at Lightning's hair. In the CG parts, you can see the individual strands of hair moving around. In the in-game part, it moves more as a whole and not as detailed.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6928221524061217382&hl=en

That video isn't the hightest quality, but you can still tell. It would probably be even more obvious if I could get to a higher quality video than the one uploaded to google.

You're right fs, the proof is in the video.

Ebi_Furya

That's exactly what I've been trying to say. It's especially noticeable between 0:50 and 0:57. Her facial detail changes quite a lot.

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

Hmmm...ignoring the argument...

there was some focus on the characters, but I wish they could have had more focus on your characters. They weren't memorable characters for me. With most of the focus on the war and all, I found it harder to learn anything about the people I was controlling throughout the whole game. With less focus on teh characters, I could not connect to them as much, and therefore not care for them as much. I didn't care what happened to vaan, Balthier, fran, Ashe, Basch, or peneloin the end. :?

lo_Reaper_ol

Why do you ignore the arguments? I think it's pretty funny to watch.(and sometimes join in:P)

Meh, i was mostly trying to get things back on-topic...

It's CG dude. It's not real timefs_metal

That may be true, but how can you be so certain ?

From what I've seen in the trailer, the quality of the visual drops at one point, which leads me to believe there may be some real-time graphics.

Or not. :?

Or not. :?

lo_Reaper_ol

just watch, sit back and relax, it may end soon...maybe...:|

[QUOTE="lo_Reaper_ol"]

Or not. :?

DJ-Lafleur

just watch, sit back and relax, it may end soon...maybe...:|

True. Want some popcorn?

There's more important things in life than fighting over peoples opinions. There opinions, get over it.Sony_FanBoy

Awesome, Sony_Fanboy! Where'd you come from?

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]There's more important things in life than fighting over peoples opinions. There opinions, get over it.lo_Reaper_ol

Awesome, Sony_Fanboy! Where'd you come from?

Back from the grave to kick some ASS. People need to stop fighting over ones opinions. If your going to fight take it out back and beat the **** out of each other. Don't do it here.

[QUOTE="lo_Reaper_ol"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]There's more important things in life than fighting over peoples opinions. There opinions, get over it.Sony_FanBoy

Awesome, Sony_Fanboy! Where'd you come from?

Back from the grave to kick some ASS. People need to stop fighting over ones opinions. If your going to fight take it out back and beat the **** out of each other. Don't do it here.

Don't kick mine! I didn't do nothing mister. lol jk

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="lo_Reaper_ol"]

[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"]There's more important things in life than fighting over peoples opinions. There opinions, get over it.lo_Reaper_ol

Awesome, Sony_Fanboy! Where'd you come from?

Back from the grave to kick some ASS. People need to stop fighting over ones opinions. If your going to fight take it out back and beat the **** out of each other. Don't do it here.

Don't kick mine! I didn't do nothing mister. lol jk

Ok, I won't kick yours.

well i think FFXII was one of the best FFs i have ever played. i have nothing to complain about.

well i think FFXII was one of the best FFs i have ever played. i have nothing to complain about.

cloudstrife145

I thought it was amazing too, but I still think that FF X is better.

well i think FFXII was one of the best FFs i have ever played. i have nothing to complain about.

cloudstrife145

if anyone should love it, it's you dudefs_metal

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudeDJ-Lafleur

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

I agree, the biggest problem I had with the game though. Was the characters, Balthier was the only one that really stood out from the rest.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudeDJ-Lafleur

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

The story was AWESOME and the music moved me! The only crappy characters were Vaan and Penelo. hahahaha

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudeDJ-Lafleur

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudefs_metal

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

perhaps, though FFT actually got me to care about the characters, which FFXII really did not do for me. One of the most important things in a story for me is the characters.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudeDJ-Lafleur

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

perhaps, though FFT actually got me to care about the characters, which FFXII really did not do for me. One of the most important things in a story for me is the characters.

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudefs_metal

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

perhaps, though FFT actually got me to care about the characters, which FFXII really did not do for me. One of the most important things in a story for me is the characters.

The main 6 characters were very dull, plain and boring. Well besides Balthier.

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudefs_metal

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

perhaps, though FFT actually got me to care about the characters, which FFXII really did not do for me. One of the most important things in a story for me is the characters.

I tried to, but the story just failed to interest me, and I couldn't care for the characters in the story. We barely got to know that much about them. The only character I remotely cared about was Balthier.

[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]if anyone should love it, it's you dudeDJ-Lafleur

the gameplay was great, I spent hours upon hours hunting marks and hunting espers and getting the entire license grid complete for each character. The story and most of the music didn't really get me that excited or interested though...

perhaps, though FFT actually got me to care about the characters, which FFXII really did not do for me. One of the most important things in a story for me is the characters.

I tried to, but the story just failed to interest me, and I couldn't care for the characters in the story. We barely got to know that much about them. The only character I remotely cared about was Balthier.