Why is FF13 and 13-2 Under rated

I personally loved the story and the sequel just made it so much better. The gameplay is also fantastic... I really don't get it. I guess the game is kind of cutesy but really it is perfect. 

Thanks :) I think the story even rivals the classics! Glad to see others agree!

I personally loved the story and the sequel just made it so much better. The gameplay is also fantastic... I really don't get it. I guess the game is kind of cutesy but really it is perfect. squalls_revival

I think the overall message is reminscant of final fantasy. The game basically covers every major issue today. like ff7 covered major issues. Terrorism/avalanche, oil/mako/lifestream... ffxiii has fal'cie and then proto falcie which is a new issue. Countries like china are building there own "Gods" time travel and dimensions/ this is quantum physics.. basically ff13 is ff7 with themes of the 21st century.

I know in one or two of my save files I couldn't finish them up because some items can only begotten during the story and not bought through the story and in my first playthrough I didn't really look at the achievements so I accidently had sold some of those items, then again I'm sure that those might be obtainable by deconstructing some things, I'm not sure, it always just seemed like it would be a lot of grinding for a few artificial rewards. I'm not necessarily knocking the quest for achievements or completion as I've done it on occasion but XIIIs completion is quite extreme in comparison to most other games. 

Im not saying XIII LR will be bad but usually the further you go into a series the worse it gets.

Im not saying XIII LR will be bad but usually the further you go into a series the worse it gets.

vegamineral

That depends both on your definition of series and what series is being discussed. FF for instance if you count all of them as the same series I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't agree that FFI trumps some of the higher FFs. As far as other series where the first isn't the best Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, and Call of Duty come to mind. I would say AC2 and ME2 were better than the first and I'm not really a CoD fan but seeing as how the series didn't really start getting acclaim or notice till the 4th entry and after I don't think that applies though I would also think that some of their more recent entries aren't as good as some of the previous.

i think 13-2 was the better of the two imhoThe_Last_Ride

Would you care to explain your opinion? I'm interested to here you points since I said previously that I prefer the first XIII. 

I'd agree with those points. Caius was certainly more relatable and the clear villain. The first game had very black and white villains and I still feel as though the first's real villain was the concept of a corrupt society or government controlled existence rather than a person. You do know the motivations much sooner in XIII-2 as well, Serah is looking for Lightning and Noel wants to fix the future.

I don't think the combat was more refined. The paradigm system is still in shape and working well from the last game but the two human characters weren't as specialized as some of the characters were in the first plus I thought the monster system was a bit complex and frustrating in trying to figure out what works best for them and how to get there. Also, some of the missions I felt were overly complex or difficult to the point where most people would need a guide or a decent amount of luck and time to be able to figure it out for themselves.

XIII took awhile to get into the game but I was just kinda swept along for the rife with this group of fugitives on the run from the government and trying to make sense of what they were supposed to do. I found that uncertainty and character discovery more interesting than simply being told straight off the bat what everyone's purpose was. They are both enjoyable games but I personally prefer the first game in the character discovery, larger meanings behind many of the plot points, and over all time spent. I was able to plat XIII-2 in less than the time it takes to get through the storyline of XIII and I didn't have much of an urge to replay it. XIII even being longer in just finishing the storyline, I've played through 4 times and started a 5th. 

I'd agree with those points. Caius was certainly more relatable and the clear villain. The first game had very black and white villains and I still feel as though the first's real villain was the concept of a corrupt society or government controlled existence rather than a person. You do know the motivations much sooner in XIII-2 as well, Serah is looking for Lightning and Noel wants to fix the future.

I don't think the combat was more refined. The paradigm system is still in shape and working well from the last game but the two human characters weren't as specialized as some of the characters were in the first plus I thought the monster system was a bit complex and frustrating in trying to figure out what works best for them and how to get there. Also, some of the missions I felt were overly complex or difficult to the point where most people would need a guide or a decent amount of luck and time to be able to figure it out for themselves.

XIII took awhile to get into the game but I was just kinda swept along for the rife with this group of fugitives on the run from the government and trying to make sense of what they were supposed to do. I found that uncertainty and character discovery more interesting than simply being told straight off the bat what everyone's purpose was. They are both enjoyable games but I personally prefer the first game in the character discovery, larger meanings behind many of the plot points, and over all time spent. I was able to plat XIII-2 in less than the time it takes to get through the storyline of XIII and I didn't have much of an urge to replay it. XIII even being longer in just finishing the storyline, I've played through 4 times and started a 5th. 

Lightning__Evil

I dont think SE tried to make a good final boss for FFXIII. But they made up for it with Caius.vegamineral

I thought the main story in XIII-2 was much easier and faster for that matter since I finished the main story in just under 20 hours. The only thing that would affect the difficulty really in XIII-2 is the monster system. Serah and Noel aren't as role specialized as the 6 characters in XIII and your third position is filled by any of the 3 monsters you have selected. Since each monster only has one role that means you only have three possible roles for that third position onlike in XIII when everyone could get every role. And then figuring out which monsters are the best to use for what roles and how best to upgrade them. Also, the battles against Cauis are more fulfilling and possibly more challenging than the battles in XIIIs story.

In short, I would say that the main story is easier its just that figuring out how best to organize or set up your fighters may be more complex. 

I haven't played XIII-2. Was the main story any more difficult than in XIII? There were some really difficult optional bosses in XIII but it was never really in question that you wouldn't beat the main quest bosses as long as you're used to RPG's, just that you might not 5 star them first try. JukedSolid

I thought the main story in XIII-2 was much easier and faster for that matter since I finished the main story in just under 20 hours. The only thing that would affect the difficulty really in XIII-2 is the monster system. Serah and Noel aren't as role specialized as the 6 characters in XIII and your third position is filled by any of the 3 monsters you have selected. Since each monster only has one role that means you only have three possible roles for that third position onlike in XIII when everyone could get every role. And then figuring out which monsters are the best to use for what roles and how best to upgrade them. Also, the battles against Cauis are more fulfilling and possibly more challenging than the battles in XIIIs story.

In short, I would say that the main story is easier its just that figuring out how best to organize or set up your fighters may be more complex. 

Lightning__Evil

I wasn't trying to say the monsters weren't cool just that they limited your third slot to 3 paradigms and figuring out which monster per class to use and how best to level them up could be challenging. I found that the Chocobos were either the best or decent for whatever classes they were in. I remember I used the Green Chocobo heavily as well as the Red, Gold, and Silver to some degree.Lightning__Evil