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#51 Lightning__Evil
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I didn't either but then again I had the guide book to help make sense of everything. I'm not sure how difficult it would actually be for someone who doesn't have that resource.
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#52 The_Last_Ride
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I didn't either but then again I had the guide book to help make sense of everything. I'm not sure how difficult it would actually be for someone who doesn't have that resource.Lightning__Evil
i didn't use a walkthrough or books. I just used trial and error for my part
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#53 Lightning__Evil
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Thats how I do the majority of my games but the XIIIs collector's guides looked so awesome that I had to have them :P
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#54 vegamineral
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I found XIII-2 to have better gameplay than XIII, but not as good of a story. I think that XIII-2 made up for all the extra bosses, challenges, and puzzles that XIII didnt have.
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#55 Lightning__Evil
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I'd agree to that for the most part. Personally I don't think the gameplay was better but I would say it was more balanced and felt closer to some of the classic FFs. Don't ask me how I justify that since honestly I'm not entirely sure why I feel that way I just do. Also, on the subject of gameplay the summons in XIII really had little to no significance.
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#56 The_Last_Ride
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I found XIII-2 to have better gameplay than XIII, but not as good of a story. I think that XIII-2 made up for all the extra bosses, challenges, and puzzles that XIII didnt have.vegamineral

i think 13-2 was better, 13 had a longer story, but i still think 13-2 was the better 

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#57 JukedSolid
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so the dungeons and the gameplay make the game worth it...that's intriguing.  There are games where you can use monsters to aid your party, but not many where it requires you to use them.  Interesting twist.  I'll probably buy a used copy some day.
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#58 Lightning__Evil
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Its worth it I'd say ;)
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#59 The_Last_Ride
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i would say it's worth it
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#60 vegamineral
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It is, FFXIII-2 got alot more exploration than any other FF.
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#61 Lightning__Evil
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I'm not sure about that. Just cause it had a bunch of different areas in different time periods that means exploration? What about X-2 which basically did the same thing or maybe other FFs that I haven't played :P
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#62 D3dr0_0
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I know I haven't played FFXIII-2, but somehow I have a hard time believing that it's bigger than FFXII.
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#63 Lightning__Evil
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It isn't bigger but vega was talking about the exploration of it. XIII-2's story and gameplay is pieced together through several different time portals which pretty much ends up being about maybe a dozen or so places and some of them have up to 3 different time periods for exploration or something along those lines. I still have to play XII, I thought that said XIII at first but I had to look at it again.
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#64 The_Last_Ride
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It is, FFXIII-2 got alot more exploration than any other FF.vegamineral

FFX is bigger than 13-2 at least in my opinion, you have all the creatures to catch in all areas, ultimate weapons, ultimate creatures, extra aions and dark aions 

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[QUOTE="vegamineral"]It is, FFXIII-2 got alot more exploration than any other FF.The_Last_Ride

FFX is bigger than 13-2 at least in my opinion, you have all the creatures to catch in all areas, ultimate weapons, ultimate creatures, extra aions and dark aions

True i forgot about X.
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I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.
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#67 vegamineral
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I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.Lightning__Evil
Its really hard for me to choose between X and VII as the best in the series, there is much more to do in X besides the main story that makes it so fun.
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I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.Lightning__Evil

I think it's due to the fact that the game didn't have a really long tutorial, more likable characters, Summons were actually cool, mini games like blitz ball, better story, the ability to go back to all previous areas, actual Legendary weapons, Sphere grid, no limitations on levles throyghout the game, the game didn't feel empty with towns, etc.

 

I liked X, but it's not my fave.

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#69 Lightning__Evil
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I'm guessing your fav would be XII?
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#70 D3dr0_0
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No that would be VIII, but I do think XII is the best PS2 Final Fantasy.
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[QUOTE="Lightning__Evil"]I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.D3dr0_0

I think it's due to the fact that the game didn't have a really long tutorial, more likable characters, Summons were actually cool, mini games like blitz ball, better story, the ability to go back to all previous areas, actual Legendary weapons, Sphere grid, no limitations on levles throyghout the game, the game didn't feel empty with towns, etc.

I liked X, but it's not my fave.

That is all so true.
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[QUOTE="D3dr0_0"]

[QUOTE="Lightning__Evil"]I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.vegamineral

I think it's due to the fact that the game didn't have a really long tutorial, more likable characters, Summons were actually cool, mini games like blitz ball, better story, the ability to go back to all previous areas, actual Legendary weapons, Sphere grid, no limitations on levles throyghout the game, the game didn't feel empty with towns, etc.

I liked X, but it's not my fave.

That is all so true.

X and XIII are so similar yet so different that it makes my head hurt when people say they're both the same. 

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#73 JukedSolid
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X and XIII are so similar yet so different that it makes my head hurt when people say they're both the same. 

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Yeah I don't see it either.  I would say that XIII is more linear than X though.  The leveling certainly is.  Even though the crystarium looks very similar to the sphere grid, it's not nearly as diverse.  For one, you could actually max it out without putting in 150+ hours since the sphere grid is so freaking diverse and huge.  I've met one person who nearly maxed out their sphere grid and had made their characters more powerful than you could possibly imagine haha 

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#74 vegamineral
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I dont think that XIII is similiar to any other FF (except XIII-2).
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#75 Lightning__Evil
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Even XIII and XIII-2 have quite a few differences though I'm not sure whether or not they are as disimilar as X is to X-2. From what I've heard of VIIIs combat system maybe VIII isn't similar to any other FF.
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#76 JukedSolid
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VIII really is different from any other combat system regarding junctioning and how you never ever use magic unless maybe you need an emergency heal.  No armor choices to go through and even upgrading weapons didn't matter as much as junctioning a better spell. I enjoyed how it eliminated grinding for the most part though.  Made it easier to focus on the story.  
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#77 Lightning__Evil
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That sounds like a good thing then. I'll need to try it some point soon...
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#78 D3dr0_0
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VIII really is different from any other combat system regarding junctioning and how you never ever use magic unless maybe you need an emergency heal.  No armor choices to go through and even upgrading weapons didn't matter as much as junctioning a better spell. I enjoyed how it eliminated grinding for the most part though.  Made it easier to focus on the story.  JukedSolid

It also one of the reasons why people hated the game. 

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#79 JukedSolid
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Kares lol
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#80 vegamineral
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I actually liked grinding since I did it so much within a certain amout of time I'd be stronger than all the bosses. But thats what I didnt like about XIII and XIII-2, they would only let you level up so far at certain parts of the story until the crystarium would expand.
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#81 Lightning__Evil
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That may be true that they kinda capped you before you could go farther but quite often I would grind and max within the limit and even then the bosses were really no problem and you continue to store up XP till you can upgrade again at least. So personally I didn't really see that as a big deal.
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#82 vegamineral
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Me neither but I just like getting really strong ahead of time.:P
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#83 Lightning__Evil
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Which you can kinda do with storing up xp if you're already maxed but then again its not as fun when you can't get immediate rewards or spend some of those points when you want. Truthfully with FFXIII, its pretty pointless to worry about or try grinding before Chapter 11. Cause by then grinding really helps plus its much easier to do.
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#84 The_Last_Ride
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I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.Lightning__Evil

:o you didn't get anima or the magus sister :o? Didnt you even fight the Dark Aions or even getting the main weapons? 

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#85 Lightning__Evil
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Nope, to be completely honest I didn't even defeat the final boss. I got stuck part way through the series of final boss fights and by that time I wasn't leveled enough and I F'd up my saves so I couldn't even go back and grind some more before attempting it.
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#86 vegamineral
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[QUOTE="Lightning__Evil"]I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.The_Last_Ride

:o you didn't get anima or the magus sister :o? Didnt you even fight the Dark Aions or even getting the main weapons?

I got the extra aeons and secret weapons but I could never fight the dark aeons since I didnt have the international version.
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[QUOTE="The_Last_Ride"]

[QUOTE="Lightning__Evil"]I actually didn't do more than the main story in X. A lot of people say that X is pretty linear as well like XIII but at the same time many people really like X and some even say its the best.vegamineral

:o you didn't get anima or the magus sister :o? Didnt you even fight the Dark Aions or even getting the main weapons?

I got the extra aeons and secret weapons but I could never fight the dark aeons since I didnt have the international version.

i tried downing Yojimbo, but all he did was Zanmato everytime i tried him 

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#88 JukedSolid
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I didn't get the international version either!  That may be the only reason I'll go back and buy the HD copy, but I'm still weighing the pros and cons in my head.  You know I thought that limiting the crystarium expansion was rather smart because it would make the storyline more challenging and it saves time overall because you're not scrambling to fight weaker enemies that give you minimal experience over and over again.
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#89 Lightning__Evil
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That's a very good point on the crystalarium I think. It rings quite true to me. The HD copy is going for 40 and you get the international version of X and X-2. That sounds kinda like a bargain to me. In a way its essentially the never released in my region internation version in new HD at 20 each. Pretty good deal in my head ;)
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#90 The_Last_Ride
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i would want the same game tbh
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#91 Lightning__Evil
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X is certainly worth it and I would say X-2 as well. There were many critisisms about X-2 but personally I really enjoyed it. It can't even hold a candle to the awesome that is X but I still liked the game.
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X is certainly worth it and I would say X-2 as well. There were many critisisms about X-2 but personally I really enjoyed it. It can't even hold a candle to the awesome that is X but I still liked the game.Lightning__Evil

i want to try it out 

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#93 Lightning__Evil
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I'd say its well worth it. It's probably the closest FF to what it looks like LR is going to be like in terms of gameplay. Having 20ish dresspheres which are essentially the jobs that can be switched between on the fly is pretty awesome.
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#94 The_Last_Ride
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i just want a release date for it, i would also like to try FF 9 
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A release date would be nice, that way I could start planning for it and FFIX is interesting to say the least. I'm not that knowledgable on it since I've only played the first 8-10 hours of it but that was some enjoyable time. A demo for IX was actually my introduction into the franchise.
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#96 The_Last_Ride
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i am interested in it, and i want to know if Vivi is awesome
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#97 Lightning__Evil
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Well if I recall correctly that epic scene that Vivi is in that he is kinda identified for was within that 8-10 hour period I played and I enjoyed him.
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#98 The_Last_Ride
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i have no idea who he really is :3
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I hope you at least know what he looks like but I wouldn't expect you to know who he really is. You need to play and experience the game first and learn about him. The only way we learn about others and get closer to who they really are takes time, effort, and patience. True its different for everyone but I still think those points will stay true unless you run into someone who knows exactly who they are and don't mind telling you everything about themselves and who they are upon meeting you. I guess there are some people out there that will tell you their life story at the drop of a hat but even that isn't quite the same as who they really are...
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I liked vivi's character design probably the best out of all the characters in FFIX.  He's a great party member and the parts of the story that focused on him were some of my favorite.  reflect x4 for the win.