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#51 THE_DZA
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The most intelligent and eloquent reviewer on gamespot (and a plain fun guy to watch) is leaving. This speaks volumes about what this site has been reduced to.

Alex if you're reading this... all the best in whatever you choose to do in the future, thanks for the great reviews, your blog and other cool features. Thank you for championing games you truly believed in such as Zak & Wiki and being vocal about it. adios

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Intelligent and eloquent... that actually makes me laugh. Alex's shtick has allways been 90's slacker irrevereance.
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#52 slyux432
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The Gamespot apocalypse has reached its climax :(

Alex was my fav reviwer, why alex, just y >,_,

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#53 Sroek
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Joshua Larson killed Gamespot.
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#54 TriangleHard
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Now Gamespot is going to be really boring.
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#55 Oilers99
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The problem seems to be that all of the old, favored personalities from GameSpot seem to be leaving before anyone has a chance to form ties to newer staffers like Aaron and Kevin. I don't think GameSpot is suffering a shortage of good people; they're suffering from a shortage of people that they've had a chance to get to know and like. Still, Alex is a great writer who's always brought an element of distinctively sweetly sarcastic enthusiasm, and he'll be hard to replace.

And the timing of this, to me, suggests he didn't leave because of Gerstmann directly, but rather because CNET never took responsibility or explained itself fully for Gerstmann's dismissal.

I guess CNET must really hate money, because they seem to be really intent on burning it.

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#57 ShattyFattmas
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Things just keep getting worse, hopefully they can recover soon.
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#58 F1Lengend
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Alex and Brian E are my favorites so now there is only one I like :(
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#59 Sim_genius
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:( :(dlind70
Ah looking at your sig does make it more sad :(
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#60 TheGamerUser
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He will always be WINNER in our hearts....
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#61 Black_Knight_00
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Now Gamespot is going to be really boring.TriangleHard

Bull's eye. Jeff and AlexN were the only guys that could write reviews in a way that was both professional and entertaining. All we have left now is the professional side: Gamespot is going black and white.

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#62 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]Now Gamespot is going to be really boring.Black_Knight_00

Bull's eye. Jeff and AlexN were the only guys that could write reviews in a way that was both professional and entertaining. All we have left now is the professional side: Gamespot is going black and white.

Castrated is more like it. The management is trying to remove everything about GS that made this THE site for the best reviews in the early 00's.

The 90's had a lot of reviews that read more like quick fan reviews. They added some professionalism to the site with the DC, PS2, GC, and Xbox era, and it was wonderful. Now they're going too far in the other direction, just to please their advertisers and some marketing guru that they put in charge of the website. :roll:

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#63 LordAndrew
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Alex was definetly my favorite reviewer on the site since Greg and well now he is gone. Dont forget Frank Provo (sp?)left last week. Ryan Davis is probably right behind, his best friends just left, I doubt he will stay for long. And with that what once was GS is now something totally different.It is over people, the GS we knew is dead.

All these people are leaving for a reason, it has to be because of CNET. There is no way you can trust the reviews of this site when so many employees are leaving, probably out of protest or moral standing.

dvader654

Frank actually quit around mid-to-late-December. He wrote about it in his LiveJournal. He just didn't mention it in his GameSpot blog until January.

I really haven't been paying much attention to GameSpot's editorial content since Jeff was fired. I'm primarily here for the community now.

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#65 skyyfox1
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Umm, maybe Alex is tired of doing reviews, and his other duties here on Gamespot. He and Jeff spent many, many years on this. DO YOU expect Gamespot staff to be like robots, just sticking with one job for the rest of their life? Of course, they're humans who have different goals, and other stuff. Although, I'm very sad about this, and now I'll only use Gamespot as a forums site. Now Ryan Davis needs to go, and so Rich, Alex, Ryan Davis, and Jeff can make TIME TROTTERS! :D

digi_matrix

don't know of they can recover.. maybe they are too damn retarded.. my bro likes ign... maybe i will just go to ign. i know how it is to be stuck in a dead end job. doing the same old thing everyday. but if you got a place to go, that's alright. but if you are a talent like jeff why would you fire him? or alex either? gamespot is seemingly shooting themselves in the foot and it is not working. you are not going to bail yourselves out of this one gamespot!!! first it was rich gallup, then jeff gerstman and now alex navarro. you are left with not very much! so if you want us to be loyal, you have to prove yourselves. you have to make it worth it. we are not stupid. we want a site with good reviewers. that's the main thing we want.

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#66 m4gicm4rty
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[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="Kreatzion"]Damn this site is going the drain and it's doing it fast. Alex Navarro was actually my favorite person at GameSpot and now he's leaving. Ugh are we going to have to move to another site now folks?rragnaar

No I think the ones that wanted to leave left already and those that are here now already accept that this site is a disaster but stay for the forums.

That about sums it up for me.

Same for me as well. I haven't even been here for that long (as a frequent user) :( . Wish the best to al the remaining team, so thats erm... whos's left? Ryan , Brad , Brian and Ricardo.

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#67 V_Isle
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The only two memorable reviewers here...gone. This place is really going to crap now. First they ruin the reviews system, then losing reviewers left and right.. I forsee a dark future for this place if they can't get their act together.
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#68 jsmoke03
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ok so people who left gs since ive been here

gregk

bobc

tim tracy

jeff gerstman

carrie g

frank provo

alex n

rich g

greg m

thas a lot of ppl that left..(dont mean like after the whole jeff g controversy,but people that left in the last 3 years 4 various reasons

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#69 Paktahn
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The only two memorable reviewers here...gone. This place is really going to crap now. First they ruin the reviews system, then losing reviewers left and right.. I forsee a dark future for this place if they can't get their act together.V_Isle

Yeah it's sad. I have been coming here since about 1999 and at one point it was my favorite site but now I consider it below average. It's got as much if not more content then ever before but the content lacks quality and the staff don't appear to enjoy themselves as much as they used to. Greg and Jeff had a real passion for gaming and it was contagious.

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#70 frozenthino
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srsly Gamespots reviews will be so dull now ,all the good reviewers are going away , whats goin on ? is there something that scares reviewers away from gamespot ?
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#71 redchina
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Good luck to you, Alex.
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#72 man_hammer
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Well this is a bummer...if it's true.

It just doesn't seem like the same place anymore. It's like when Saturday Night Live changes cast members en mass. It will take some time for things to settle in.

I really miss Carrie G, Greg K, Tim S, Rich G, and Jeff G. If Alex N leaves too I'll miss him also.

I'm not going to abandon ship just yet. However, I think I'm going to write my first Gamespot blog on this topic soon. My first in my 5 year membershiphere.

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#73 VMan
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Without trying to sound like a prick it doesn't really bother me at all as I stopped considering Gamespot reviews when Jeff was fired.
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#74 VMan
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srsly Ga whats goin on ? is there something that scares reviewers away from gamespot ?frozenthino

Well recently...could be fear of getting fired for expressing your true opinion.

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#75 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="frozenthino"]srsly Ga whats goin on ? is there something that scares reviewers away from gamespot ?VMan

Well recently...could be fear of getting fired for expressing your true opinion.

you really think thats what it is? i beg to differ. the reviews look normal as usual. gs hasnt given a subpar game aaa status yet...until i see that, i still have a little bit of optimism

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#76 GodModeEnabled
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I liked Alex and everything, but I stopped paying attention to the editorial content on this site a long time ago, im here for the forums only.
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#77 dlind70
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This is another example of corporate America taking over the little man. Gamespot has been the latest example, unfortunately.

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#78 SorasGhost009
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whys everyone leaving?

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#79 juradai
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I'm not really surprised by this news but I am no less saddened.

I do have a question in regards to us being allowed to discuss this in the GGD forum whereas when Jeff left we were forced(at the very beginning of the fiasco) to discuss it in the off topic forums.

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#80 VMan
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[QUOTE="VMan"]

[QUOTE="frozenthino"]srsly Ga whats goin on ? is there something that scares reviewers away from gamespot ?jsmoke03

Well recently...could be fear of getting fired for expressing your true opinion.

you really think thats what it is? i beg to differ. the reviews look normal as usual. gs hasnt given a subpar game aaa status yet...until i see that, i still have a little bit of optimism

The truth is, none of us who aren't in the know-know what it really is. I'm just throwing that out there because that has happened here in the past. But I have no problem suspecting that the idea of that has crossed the minds of the editors since then becuase I firmly believe it has.

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#81 Lanezy
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I wish Alex Navarro the best of luck, but to be completely honest, I really haven't paid too much attention to the reviews on this site. I do like the Hotspot and On The Spot, and yes, it will seem empty not to see Alex there, but it wouldn't bother me too much.

I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or anything, but like most people here, I'm here for the forums and pretty much only the forums.

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#82 ShenlongBo
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I'm suddenly very angry with myself for not keeping up with The HotSpot and On the Spot. Greg, Jeff, Alex... the awesome staff is what made GameSpot good to begin with, and now I even feel myself feeling pushed away. I wish I'd paid more attention to these guys when they were around. Now that they're gone, it's just not the same.

Best of luck, Alex. Go do something awesome and give us the link.

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#83 MAILER_DAEMON
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I'm not really surprised by this news but I am no less saddened.

I do have a question in regards to us being allowed to discuss this in the GGD forum whereas when Jeff left we were forced(at the very beginning of the fiasco) to discuss it in the off topic forums.

juradai
There was an administrative directive to keep it all in OT. We were given no such directive here, so I just took it upon myself to make threads in GGD and OT about it after Kotaku broke the news publically.
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#84 jjr10
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All i can say is Damn.
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#85 digi_matrix
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On the Spot is better than ever, and Hotspot has still got it. And then Tournament TV. So there's still plenty of content that Gamespot hasn't lost out on. Really, the only thing they've lost me is reviews, but that was from a while ago.
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#86 Black_Knight_00
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Castrated is more like it. The management is trying to remove everything about GS that made this THE site for the best reviews in the early 00's.

The 90's had a lot of reviews that read more like quick fan reviews. They added some professionalism to the site with the DC, PS2, GC, and Xbox era, and it was wonderful. Now they're going too far in the other direction, just to please their advertisers and some marketing guru that they put in charge of the website. :roll:

MAILER_DAEMON

The business guideline Gamespot fails to remember is that the success of a company is due to the people that compose it. With such valuable reviewers gone, now GS will, as we said, lose that ironic 'touch' that made the site great. What they will do is: (1) keep up the professional work, trying to please both the public and the advertisers and (2) hope the Gamespot brand and name will prevent the angry readers' exodus towards other gaming sites. I personally don't think the other gaming sites are at the same level as GS. I may be wrong.

What if AlexN was actually fired? Fired because of the 1.0 he gave Big Rigs?

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#87 digi_matrix
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Fired because of the 1.0 he gave Big Rigs?

Black_Knight_00

Haha, that would be the funniest :lol: and most disturbing :| thing ever.

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#88 HiResDes
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[QUOTE="dvader654"]

[QUOTE="Kreatzion"]Damn this site is going the drain and it's doing it fast. Alex Navarro was actually my favorite person at GameSpot and now he's leaving. Ugh are we going to have to move to another site now folks?rragnaar

No I think the ones that wanted to leave left already and those that are here now already accept that this site is a disaster but stay for the forums.

That about sums it up for me.

Yeah, that basically what I had planned to say when I came in here, what sucks really is that things we really just getting back up to speed after the Jeff catastrophe...A lot of mainstays left the forums for good, people I thought would be here for good, and with this I have doubt that we will see more of the same :| Alex N was not only a great reviewer, he was very much a people person (or at least a forumite person), he was probably the most active in the forums.

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#89 Simpsonsfan2
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This is terrible! :cry:
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#90 viberooni
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Well, damn. This place will miss his contributions dearly that's for sure. When Alex reviews a game you're guaranteed a clear idea of what to expect, a good piece of writing to read, and usually a pretty entertaining video as well. I've always been a huge fan of his tone and writing style, he's one of the best in the business IMO as far as having reasonable, educated opinions and a talent for expressing them. And of course his bad reviews are legendary.

You do your thing, Alex. Best of luck in all future endeavors. Hopefully they involve Jeff and a few more of the folks that made GS my favorite site to read these past few years. Big blow to the site though.

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#91 m0zart
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I am definitely going to miss him. He was my favorite editor after Greg left. Man, I really miss the old days.
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#92 deactivated-5b7eeba71ed1e
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Castrated is more like it. The management is trying to remove everything about GS that made this THE site for the best reviews in the early 00's.

MAILER_DAEMON

The sad thing is, the early 00's were quite awhile ago at this point.

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#93 EvilTaru
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Right now as a site Gamespot is really lacking that level of output, especially compared to its main competitors, losing AlexN isn't going to help but it's obviously a negative trend for the site, the content right now just isn't there and the boards are also not that great anymore, the userboards really took people away from the main boards but there simply aren't enough people to really drive those userboards, at least based around gaming, the site has never looked this troubled since 1997-98 when I first came here.
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#94 gator78
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I am sure this has been said before on this thread, but Gamespot is losing a lot of their "talent." By talent I mean the people that caused you to watch reviews and tune in for shows like "On The Spot" or "The Hotspot." The people that make those shows worth watching are slowly leaving. There are still a few left who I enjoy watching, but I wonder if they won't also leave for whatever reason.

In all reality I whether or not Gamespot loses all it's talent won't matter because CNET is a much larger company and Gamespot is only asmall piece of the whole. The one thing I don't understand though is I see Gamespot come under fire a lot for everything that has happened, but CNET (who is responsible for the whole "debacle") doesn't seem to be getting their fair share of the negative publicity. It is their credibility as a whole that should be questioned not just Gamespot, but every site and every piece of "journalism" they run.

Personally I am going to stick around and see if Gamespot can turn itself around. It is definitely a long hard road to gain back the trust that they have lost over the past several weeks; but maybe over time they will be able to get it back. However, if Gerstman (sorry if I spelled it wrong) does something on his own or with others I will probably go there and check it out. If it is that good I might not need Gamespot anymore. I don't just come to Gamespot for raw information and opinions about things, I come here to be entertained; and recently they are losing their entertainment value to me.

Like I said I am sure that has all been posted before on this thread, but just wanted to voice my opinion none the less.

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#95 Gaming4_Life
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The forums took a dump....now this. Whats left? Why am I still here.
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#96 shinian
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I'm not suprised. Nevertheless this made me a sad panda.
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#97 EvilTaru
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I am sure this has been said before on this thread, but Gamespot is losing a lot of their "talent." By talent I mean the people that caused you to watch reviews and tune in for shows like "On The Spot" or "The Hotspot." The people that make those shows worth watching are slowly leaving. There are still a few left who I enjoy watching, but I wonder if they won't also leave for whatever reason.

In all reality I whether or not Gamespot loses all it's talent won't matter because CNET is a much larger company and Gamespot is only asmall piece of the whole. The one thing I don't understand though is I see Gamespot come under fire a lot for everything that has happened, but CNET (who is responsible for the whole "debacle") doesn't seem to be getting their fair share of the negative publicity. It is their credibility as a whole that should be questioned not just Gamespot, but every site and every piece of "journalism" they run.

Personally I am going to stick around and see if Gamespot can turn itself around. It is definitely a long hard road to gain back the trust that they have lost over the past several weeks; but maybe over time they will be able to get it back. However, if Gerstman (sorry if I spelled it wrong) does something on his own or with others I will probably go there and check it out. If it is that good I might not need Gamespot anymore. I don't just come to Gamespot for raw information and opinions about things, I come here to be entertained; and recently they are losing their entertainment value to me.

Like I said I am sure that has all been posted before on this thread, but just wanted to voice my opinion none the less.

gator78

It doesn't help that the 1UP show is much better put together, but now the people who have the personality are mostly gone, their review crew is seriously depleted at this point, they should stick to the major releases for now, the biggest problem is that their credibility took a hit because of this Kane and Lynch thing and their credibility was the biggest thing they've got going for them that really distinguishes them from the jokers at 1UP.

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#98 maximo1
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Well this sucks. I don't see how Gamespot will fully recover from all of this.