Anyone who got into gaming about 10 years ago just feel so jaded now?

Before I begin, I am 21, and started really gaming around the PS2 release.

I am just looking all around me. Everything I once knew is dead or dying or irrecognizable.

COD has just turned into a yearly attempt to sell us bigger explosions and more DLC.

SOCOM games just got hollower and hollower. What started as missions with a sense of urgency, that would raise your heartbeat, and leave no room for error, turned into SOCOM 4, an action movie wannabe that eliminated anything that made the previous games special.

And then, there is E friggin A.

I cannot believe how much the shamelessly care about money, and even less how much people are buying it. Battlefield 3 was supposed to restore my faith in modern shooters, but then premium just split the community. Not to mention they decided to scrap any of the strategy and communication from the last game and replaced it with nicer graphics.

I thought the last MOH game was great. Not political, story was subtle but the voice acting was nice. You were just guys in the military, not some grunt who has to turn into a hero to stop some international super weapon threat and all this garbage. But this next one just looks like it is cashing in on all the same methods as other shooters, as well as all the BIN LADEN IS DEAD LETS FANTASIZE HOW IT HAPPENED hype. This new partnership with Zero Dark Thirty is just sooo....wow.

This is the issue. Games that used to be able to draw you in with challenging gameplay intricacies have abandoned said mental workouts in an attempt to be the AAA thriller...and in this clusterf**k to the top of game fiction mountain, they all just look the same, and their beauty is barely skin deep.

I still enjoy Metal Gear, even though Konami may be starting to trip over itself. Games found on Steam and Valve "still got it"....but they have kinda vanished into some (hopefully creative and inspiring) oblivian...and who knows when they will return?

Companies just build %100 of a game now, sell about %50 of it and call it "%100" but then ask us to pay for DLC...like it is a bonus. We know they had the content all along, but have decided to withhold it because they can. And once a year has passed, and all the DLC is out, the game feels like only %70 of something from the last generation.

This isn't to say that there is some legit DLC out there, that really feels like it has added alot to the game, like it was something that was thoughtfully crafted after the fact. I am attacking when Activision-Blizzard tries to get us to pay for 5 maps, 3 of which we all played in the last installment.

Looking over this post now, I can see that my lost faith in the game industry might really just be a loss of faith in shooters...I would like to hear your nostalgia, and what if at all the industry has done that has left you jaded.

I think many gamers have unreasonably high expectation. To make this worse many gamers seem to just pick a choose parts of gamers to remember.

As for the DLC I understand what they are doing. They can not sell the games for more despite the increase in cost to make so they use the "free to play" marketing where they make the complete game to sell and then have extras to sell on the side.

What is making me jaded are the indie games. They come up with a gimmick or just use some old ideal, and then do a song and dance about being innovative. The worse part is that gamers are falling for this con that is worse than any DLC con out there.

i started really gaming in the ps1/n64 days being only 19

if anything i don't think games are good now as they are backthen cause every shooter plays like CoD it's like playing the same game with a different name.

and everything is becomng an action game RE splinter sell etc.

while i do really enjoy the game industry today.i don't get the same joy as i did back in the day

As far as I'm concerned the internet is the worst thing to ever happen to gaming. I hate dlc and I hate online multiplayer. I'm no longer buying games new if I think there will be complete edition released at a later date. I would like to give RE6 a try but knowing Capcom I'm going to wait a year or so to pick it up.

I play games because I like to see the creativity in them. I find Japanese games more creative. I grew up in the 80's playing the NES. I can't stand todays games like Borderlands and Darksiders. To me they seem like games with mature content focused for little kids. I think games like Mario are more mature in a way.

I haven't bought a new game since Dark Souls last year. New games have turning into a scam by Developers. I've seen drug dealers with better ethics.

As far as I'm concerned the internet is the worst thing to ever happen to gaming. I hate dlc and I hate online multiplayer. I'm no longer buying games new if I think there will be complete edition released at a later date. I would like to give RE6 a try but knowing Capcom I'm going to wait a year or so to pick it up.

I play games because I like to see the creativity in them. I find Japanese games more creative. I grew up in the 80's playing the NES. I can't stand todays games like Borderlands and Darksiders. To me they seem like games with mature content focused for little kids. I think games like Mario are more mature in a way.

I haven't bought a new game since Dark Souls last year. New games have turning into a scam by Developers. I've seen drug dealers with better ethics.

jdc6305

I hear alot of dissing on this generation. I agree the DLC and other bullcrap suck but look on the bright side for once, their have been tons of awesome games this gen.

I've been gaming for about 25 years now and it's still my best thing ever.

As far as I'm concerned the internet is the worst thing to ever happen to gaming. I hate dlc and I hate online multiplayer. I'm no longer buying games new if I think there will be complete edition released at a later date. I would like to give RE6 a try but knowing Capcom I'm going to wait a year or so to pick it up.

I play games because I like to see the creativity in them. I find Japanese games more creative. I grew up in the 80's playing the NES. I can't stand todays games like Borderlands and Darksiders. To me they seem like games with mature content focused for little kids. I think games like Mario are more mature in a way.

I haven't bought a new game since Dark Souls last year. New games have turning into a scam by Developers. I've seen drug dealers with better ethics.

jdc6305

The only reason I could possibly consider the Internet the worst thing to have happened to gaming, is because the information overload on everything has sapped all the excitement of experiencing and making up your own mind about a title. Now people find venues to vent and opinions spread like wildfire. People feel the need to ardently defend their opinion against critics and opinion pieces, while at the same time devoiding themselves of the experience. People cannot detach themselves from the dilulge of information and their own personal experience.

Further to this I would have said I have never not been as excited to be part of gaming and continue gaming. I know some experiences are gone, but new ones are just around the corner. Part of being in this hobby is the thrill of discovering a personal experience in gaming and I think people lose that.

Games like Catherine, Red Dead Redemption, Infamous 2, Metal Gear Solid 4, Guild Wars 2, Limbo, Braid, Journey, etc have all blown me away. These are all fantastic games across a wide plethora of genres and if you find that you can no longer get excited for the amazing games that already out and the ones on the Horizon (Ni No Kuni, Dishonored, The Last of Us, Bioshock Infinite, GTAV, et al), you should take a hard look at what it is you want from gaming and why you are not getting it.

I'd say the industry is always in flux, some genres and great sagas fade away (look at Final Fantasy), but that doesn't mean there is nothing to replace it. Just because there is a glutt of one type of game doesn't mean there is nothing else out there. You really just have to look.

Im 28 and here in the last year i dont get as excited with games these days, it just seems to be the same thing over and overmrsniper83

[QUOTE="mrsniper83"]Im 28 and here in the last year i dont get as excited with games these days, it just seems to be the same thing over and overTurtleSh3lls

20 but started playing when I was 6 on gameboy pocket + N64 super mario, moved to GC, then Wii/360 and PC.

I played zelda ocarina of time on 3DS and...damn how I miss games like that. I feel like games just have no "character" anymore and while I am excited about Borderlands 2 I just want a game to play like Metroid Prime. That has got to be the best single player game of all time. But I can't find it's spiritual successor anywhere.

It's all MICHAEL BAY! EXPLOSIONS! nowadays.

Like archangel there, I too have been a gaming for 20+ years and I couldn't be more excited about gaming. There's still so much that I haven't played (never played boarderlands 1 for example) or new consoles I don't own (like a Vita or the upcoming Wiiu) that there's plenty of things to anticipate. I thinking both multiplayer gaming online and downloadable content are good things, so that doesn't make me jaded at all. Maybe if gamers were more social and interacted better with the community that they claim to be apart of, they see there needs met more often.

i think people on gs are jaded....and its their own fault.i left gs around the same time i got a ps3 and when i returned last year, gs gamers changed. gamers seem to think they are owed something nowadays. gamers feel like every game have to always re invent the gameplay with every iteration (ridiculous) and everything should be a new ip....and companies are evil for trying to make money...i know when i'm being dooped and when i see companies are trying to make my money's worth...oh and people that play fps games are "bro gamers" or casual players like the madden, and 2k players...really...i can go on and on

DLC's are not the other 50% of a game for most games because they are mostly developed AFTER the game was released. the dlc content isn't even more than an hour long for most games so unless that game is only 1 hour long, then dlc's are like 5% of a game. having tried out the me2 and me3 dlc...it is't even that integral to the whole universe. only dlc that i find loathesome is sf x tekken dlc where they wanted you to pay for extra fighters in a fighting game...but other than that, i havent found

you are looking down on moh:wf and a dlc you have only HEARD ABOUT. you haven't even played it and you already have a judgement...is that fair? oh so you don't like the direction...because you dont'want your game to be like cod....news moh was a bad attempt at cod....bf...didn't you see from the commercials that it was aiming straight for cod

in the end, the cookie cutter industry isn't going to be good for the industry, but you vote with your money here. if blops2 sells worse than mw3....then i think activision will get the picture. if the next iteration of bf doesn't sell as well as bf3....they will get the picture. if no one buys dlc...then they will get the picture. i've enjoyed this generation, and i feel bad for all you jaded gamers out there....its your fault for not enjoying the games

I started NES when I was 2, and never stopped playing. If you feel jaded might as well take a break. I think this is the pinnacle of gaming, every week there is a good game out and it's also more accessible for better or worse. I love it still and hope always will.

i think people on gs are jaded....and its their own fault.i left gs around the same time i got a ps3 and when i returned last year, gs gamers changed. gamers seem to think they are owed something nowadays. gamers feel like every game have to always re invent the gameplay with every iteration (ridiculous) and everything should be a new ip....and companies are evil for trying to make money...i know when i'm being dooped and when i see companies are trying to make my money's worth...oh and people that play fps games are "bro gamers" or casual players like the madden, and 2k players...really...i can go on and on

DLC's are not the other 50% of a game for most games because they are mostly developed AFTER the game was released. the dlc content isn't even more than an hour long for most games so unless that game is only 1 hour long, then dlc's are like 5% of a game. having tried out the me2 and me3 dlc...it is't even that integral to the whole universe. only dlc that i find loathesome is sf x tekken dlc where they wanted you to pay for extra fighters in a fighting game...but other than that, i havent found

you are looking down on moh:wf and a dlc you have only HEARD ABOUT. you haven't even played it and you already have a judgement...is that fair? oh so you don't like the direction...because you dont'want your game to be like cod....news moh was a bad attempt at cod....bf...didn't you see from the commercials that it was aiming straight for cod

jsmoke03

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I just think gamers love to complain.

Multi-player , DLC & EA have spoiled what once was a glorious partnership. I've said before, if it gets any more money grabbing worse, I'm going to buy old consoles & just start retro gaming, for there be gems out there we've not yet discovered................................& some of these developers are seriously taking us for a ride.Justinps2hero

Do we need to beat this dead horse again?

Series fall from their pedestal, especially ones that become super popular like Call of Duty and Final Fantasy. The fact that I no longer enjoy a franchise or a specific genre just means its time to move on and find something new. When that piece of crap Spyro the Dragon 4 came out, I knew that series was done, so I moved on to Sly Cooper. Then Jak and Daxter. In terms of JRPGs, I thought it couldn't get any better than Final Fantasy X and X-2. Then I discovered Xenosaga. Then that series was finished in 2007 and I thought I'd never play another RPG like it. THEN I found Disgaea. THEN I disovered Persona.

Things change, they always will, and if something isn't doing it for you then go for something different. I doubt there is ever gonna be another Xenosaga or Jak and Daxter. And I doubt inevitable future installments of Spyro the Dragon and Final Fantasy will make me feel what I felt when I played X and X-2. Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to what kind of games that companies like Atlus, Valve, Nippon Ichi, Monolith Soft, Naughty Dog, etc will release in the future.

I'm not about to give up on gaming anytime soon.

[QUOTE="Justinps2hero"]Multi-player , DLC & EA have spoiled what once was a glorious partnership. I've said before, if it gets any more money grabbing worse, I'm going to buy old consoles & just start retro gaming, for there be gems out there we've not yet discovered................................& some of these developers are seriously taking us for a ride.jsmoke03

[QUOTE="jsmoke03"][QUOTE="Justinps2hero"]Multi-player , DLC & EA have spoiled what once was a glorious partnership. I've said before, if it gets any more money grabbing worse, I'm going to buy old consoles & just start retro gaming, for there be gems out there we've not yet discovered................................& some of these developers are seriously taking us for a ride.Justinps2hero

I've been gaming since the 80's when console and PC (including Mac and Amiga) gaming were almost totally separate from each other. The only difference now is both sides are somewhat more merged with regards to games as consoles became more capable.

As for the games themselves, they're still as exciting as ever. I don't feel jaded at all. If some people feel jaded, they have the choice to take some time off from gaming or quit altogether.

There was a time when there were gluts of some genres I wasn't interested in like the mid 90's which had a glut of fighting games. I took a break from console (SNES) gaming and concentrated on PC gaming. Then, around the time of the PSX and N64, other genres became plentiful again.

My only complaint is some games adding multiplayer even if they don't have to. Other than that, I'm still enjoying my gaming. I may not have as much time for it as before but it's a very welcome diversion.

Yes, sometimes I feel like i'm the only one who bys games to get, you know, A GAME AND NOT A MOVIE. Most games these days focus story and not gameplay, Mass Effect 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 hours are perfect examples. In the late half of the 90's and early half of the 00's, games were not like this, games were games and movies were movies.

I know Im feeling a severe lack of interest in gaming these days. Mostly because of the way the industry is heading: shorter games, more DLC, Online Passes, no new ideas- every game is a ripoff of something else, publishers and developers seem hell bend on trying to take away our consumer rights and only look at short term profit not long term gains.

Plus I have my reasons for feeling jaded towards Sony and Microsoft which is why next gen Im only going Nintendo. Sure they have the problem of re-releasing games in the same properties over and over, but the other companies are getting just as bad at this if not worse. They arent trying to take away my rights as a customer and they seem to be the only ones who remember that gaming is supposed to be fun, not a chore, not full of half-assed overpriced DLC, and not full of bull crap practices that waste our time like entering Pass codes and system and game patch after patch after patch.

Yes, sometimes I feel like i'm the only one who bys games to get, you know, A GAME AND NOT A MOVIE. Most games these days focus story and not gameplay, Mass Effect 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 hours are perfect examples. In the late half of the 90's and early half of the 00's, games were not like this, games were games and movies were movies.

RageQuitter69

I see nothing wrong with this as long as it's done well, like Max Payne 3 and the Mass Effect series.

To the OP, it's too bad you haven't been around more than 20 years ago. Then you could truly see what's missing in the industry. Back in those days, EA and Activision were respectable companies. Square & Enix were separate companies, each of whom had a large variety of RPGs before they merged and became (mostly) a FF machine. Capcom & Konami had great licensed games. Nintendo had a lovable bastard of a president.

I recommend reading some video game history books. The industry was completely different, and it was awesome.

[QUOTE="RageQuitter69"]

Yes, sometimes I feel like i'm the only one who bys games to get, you know, A GAME AND NOT A MOVIE. Most games these days focus story and not gameplay, Mass Effect 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 hours are perfect examples. In the late half of the 90's and early half of the 00's, games were not like this, games were games and movies were movies.

megadeth1117

I see nothing wrong with this as long as it's done well, like Max Payne 3 and the Mass Effect series.

It's not just the video game market that suffers from a dirge of new content or new ideas. Movies, music, basically the entire entertainment industry work to provide us with something to do. It's up to us to find the games that truly make us happy and avoid the ones that don't, just like movies, music, and other endeavors.

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[QUOTE="RageQuitter69"]

Yes, sometimes I feel like i'm the only one who bys games to get, you know, A GAME AND NOT A MOVIE. Most games these days focus story and not gameplay, Mass Effect 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 hours are perfect examples. In the late half of the 90's and early half of the 00's, games were not like this, games were games and movies were movies.

RageQuitter69

I see nothing wrong with this as long as it's done well, like Max Payne 3 and the Mass Effect series.

I've been playing since the early 1980s and I still feel it! It's odd cause on the surface we have everything we need, but for some reason this generation feels so uninspired. And it's not even like there aren't any good games out there. All I know is the old systems have been coming out of the closet an awful lot lately in attempt to relive some of the excitement of yesteryear.

To the OP, it's too bad you haven't been around more than 20 years ago. Then you could truly see what's missing in the industry. Back in those days, EA and Activision were respectable companies. Square & Enix were separate companies, each of whom had a large variety of RPGs before they merged and became (mostly) a FF machine. Capcom & Konami had great licensed games. Nintendo had a lovable bastard of a president.

I recommend reading some video game history books. The industry was completely different, and it was awesome.

King9999

Things change. There is a larger variety of rpgs now, even if most of them aren't coming from Squenix (nods towards Demon's Souls, Valkyria Chronicles, Disgaea 4, Persona 4, The Witcher and from what I've heard Xenoblade).

I've been gaming 35 years and the industry is better than ever. There are more developers out there and the impact of indies cannot be overestimated. At the start of this generation most of the indie games were arcade action games, but nowadays we're seeing more games like Journey and The Walking Dead (the best survival horror game out there).

But if you restrict yourself to Squenix rpgs, I can see how you'd be unhappy, though Bravely Default looks very promising.

There are more developers out there and the impact of indies cannot be overestimated. CarnageHeart

Of course it can. The indies are overestimated in every way.

I don't play multiplayer, problem solved. I've been gaming since 1997 and I'm still experiencing new, fresh and exciting single player experiences with many more on the horizon.

I don't feel jaded now; I haven't stopped playing video games. I am still enjoying them now as much as I did 10 years ago, but of course, there are some changes that are inevitable:

1. Continued focus of multiplayer versus single player games. A lot of games which had primarily been single-player only are now slapping on online multiplayer probably to attract more players thus more money. Which I guess, is understandable from a marketing standpoint, but not from some buyers who are not MP'ing gamers. Even Elder Scrolls is getting its own MMO now...I'm beginning to wonder if MP is just the way of the future. We'll get more pointless games which focus on the MP aspect with maybe a 5 hour single player campaign thrown in, with no focus on story. Some games have great multiplayer (Demon's Souls, Mass Effect 3) but I really don't want to listen to 12 year olds whining and screaming over headsets about how everyone else but them sucks. To me, adding other people into the equation ruins gaming, which is why [for the most part] multiplayer games are a major turn off for me.

2. Not releasing titles as just that, one package anymore. We have DLC, expansions, etc. and then those "Game of the Year" editions which come out usually a [few] year[s] after release with all the added content on it. We're buying a more expensive "vanilla" form of a game at launch versus a cheaper version with most added content at a later date. Obviously, no one is forcing gamers to buy the dlc or expansions, but it can force us to wait long periods of time for lower prices for the same title which will be released with added content eventually.

3. Exclusivity of some DLC/expansions. For example, Skyrim is available for the PC, 360, and PS3. Yet the DLC and future expansions for Skyrim are only available for the PC and 360. The 360 currently has two DLC, the PC one DLC, and the PS3 none. In fact, the PS3 most likely (just as it happened with PS3 Oblivion) will not be getting any dlc for Skyrim, but assuming we ever get expansions, I would hope they would be available for the PS3 as well. Want more money? I think it would make more sense to release the DLC for all 3 platforms instead of assuming that I will go out to buy a 360 console+ 360 version of Skyrim just because I want to play some DLC. No way in hell that's going to happen for me, but sadly, many gullible people will do this.

Then again, the same could be said for games which are exclusive to certain consoles, and people go out to buy consoles all the time because they want to play games which may only be available on those consoles. All of us, including me, are guilty of it (buying original xbox just to play Halo and other original xbox exclusive games). But to me, it's more of a problem with DLC/expansions than the games themselves.

Those are the big three for me at least, but by no means do I feel jaded. Gaming to me is nearly the same for me as it has always been.

I am PC/Console gamer since 1996, i started with games like C&C , Castlevania Symhony of the night , Mortal Combat , Metal Slug , KKND Crossfire , Homeworld ,Heroes of Might and Magic , Pandemonium and countless more uniqe creative games. My heatpeak of gaming was between 2000-2004 after 2004 gaming became so rotten and eaten by maggots called EA and Activision. Only creative game in last 8 years was Guild Wars 2 but all about that is it.

ive been gaming since be4 i can remember, my entire life.

the only thing jaded about the gaming industry is the people playing the games

Many interesting opinions in here, thanks. I have never stopped to reflect on the wonders of digital distribution, or the issues of increased development costs....But what do you think about things like Battlefield Premium i.e. services that divide gamers? There are people who cant enjoy the game as much as others because the servers are starting to have content that they do not, thus they cannot join. They are being marginalized for not paying more.

Many interesting opinions in here, thanks. I have never stopped to reflect on the wonders of digital distribution, or the issues of increased development costs....But what do you think about things like Battlefield Premium i.e. services that divide gamers? There are people who cant enjoy the game as much as others because the servers are starting to have content that they do not, thus they cannot join. They are being marginalized for not paying more.

IronBeaver