Battlefront 2 is getting hammered on the EA forums

And I love it! I never played the last game but I really enjoyed the PS2 era titles. I know the first was a cash grab but I came to the current beta with high hopes and each one of those have been dashed. ITs a slow, boring, non competitive experience that looks good but has nothing else going for it. Have nay of you guys been playing? If so, how did you find it?

The space battles are mildly interesting, as in they show what a modern day Rogue Squadron sequel could be, but anything on the ground is awful: the action is dispersive and the weapons all feel like inaccurate peashooters, plus the unlock system promises to be a slow chore designed to push microtransactions on you.

Also, were there really that many people who really wanted to play as Crylo Ren and the stupid droids from The Phantom Menace? Really?

Oh and correct me if I'm wrong, but the game comes out in less than a month and we still have zero single player footage, which does not bode well at all. Botmatch with cutscenes anyone?

@soul_starter: The Star Wars game right? I get confused with EA online shooter names, as they usually add "battle" or "front" to the name. Am I wrong on that? I dunno. .

If so, well what do you expect? Maybe I'm giving people too much credit, but Gamers are starting to get a higher standards for licensed games.

Even if Star War fans are easily satisfied when it comes to games, would even say 'very much so'; as they'd settle for a mediocre game and likely call it 'greatest game ever' if they add the right sound effects. But I digress. . So for fans to be annoyed at this Battle Front sequel gives me hope that standards are high, and that's good, good for you guys standing up. Developers shouldn't be rewarded for making garbage in 2017, even if it's a Star Wars game.

Despite that, bet it'll sell 2 million or something stupid. Star War fans will mock it, but they'll still buy this crap. Even Kinect Star Wars sold 1.7 mil.

May you give us links ?

The main problem i have with these Battlefronts is the Lack of Command Posts and no empty vehicle on map(Instead you spawn with a Vehicle)

@RSM-HQ: Yep, the Star Wars title. I am by no means a SW fan but I did enjoy the PS2 games, knew the last gen reboot would be shite but thought EA might have learned a lesson this time round...clearly not lol

I agree, it will probably sell loads and most of the buyers will buy the microtransactions too lol

@dorog1995: links for? the EA forums?

@Black_Knight_00: I couldn't even enjoy the space battles because they are so damn slow

@soul_starter: yes.

@RSM-HQ: What Mediocre Star Wars Game Have you Played That people consider it as "greatest game ever" ?

@soul_starter: It pretty much plays exactly like the first one, with minor changes in term of character classes. The first was not a bad game, but lacked a lot of content.

I had fun playing the beta, but just like the first game, i'm waiting for it to drop to 20$.

@lucidique: i wouldnt pick this filth up for free

sounds just like the first game

Don't regret many game purchases--I do my research, and I don't take games too serious because they're not meant to be--but I regret every cent and minute of the Battlefront reboot.

Wow it's getting slammed that hard? Hopefully it makes enough noise for EA to do something about it. I wouldn't see them removing the feature though as it's already programmed into the game. Best they could do is diversify the choices of Star Cards.

@residentsleeper: It's not just that one feaure, pretty much everything is getting slammed. The worst is the gameplay ,which does have some fans but the problem is, once one has played Battlefield, COD, Titanfall 2 et al, it is relaly difficult getting into the lacklustre SWBF 2. Whats even worrying is that it will have a huge impact on the single player.

@dorog1995: Based on your avatar I'm just getting a strong sense that you disagree?

Well, always being asked to do the effort is annoying. But I dug myself in this hole, so I'll give it a try but forgive me if one) don't remember well due to a lack of interest, and two) me not tracking down to gather the names with any of these games.

Remember a lot of people praising this Episode 1 game on P.C. I couldn't tell you the name, wasn't a racing game if that helps, combat focused, it was also on PS2/ GC/ and XB if I remember.

Also recall some stupid threads on GFAQ regarding this 360/PS3 Hack n' Slash game with floaty physics. Name escapes me. But you played a shaved head guy (was in Soul Calibur IV). So anyway, despite critics hammering it for being mediocre I would find topics float such as 'this game is better than Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry' (example of title not exact phrasing, this was 2009 or something) not even joking. What's worse is many seem to agree. Only thing I remember doing is posting a link video for how bad the game actually is. and wouldn't even be a one time thing either, Star War fans seem to have loved this game for whatever reason.

And sadly that's all I can float up due to memory. Few others that I simply do not remember enough, only one that's stuck is that Kinect game because it's fairly recent. But even then Star Wars games seem to take an already existing game, do no effort in making it any different, and somehow making it worse. . And yet, Star War fans think it's better due to the cosmetic nostalgia appeal of replacing Joe everyman, with Storm trooper everyman.

If you'e not satisfied with the above? it's worth noting the paragraph that states I have a lack of interest on this whole side-subject. I'm sure if you put in a search engine 'star wars best game ever' you'll find more examples of games not worth your time or money.

This is after all, a movie tie-in game. Expectations tends to be set much lower for these kind of games.

No Worries. As A Huge Star Wars Fan(And a Huge Fan of Star Wars video Games) I Agree That Star Wars The Force Unleashed Was mediocre. The Second One was Better But It Was Rushed.(Which turned it into a Disappointing game)

I Haven't Played that Episode 1 game on PC, But I Have Heard It is considered as one of the First Disappointing Lucasarts Titles.

Since I Have Realized From your Posts that You Love Games With Great Combat, I Recommend You to Get Star Wars Jedi Knight 2:Jedi Outcast .

After That If you were Satisfied, Play Jedi Academy.

Despite Being games from 2002 and 2003 they are Much Better Than Forced Unleashed games and All the Hack'n Slash Games that Star Wars Got Exclusively on Consoles.(2 Episode 1 Hack'n Slash, one Obiwan Title on Original Xbox and Episode 3 game)

Ironically, this post has become a small meme now. Primarily because... well... the "it's getting hammered" thing is a fabrication.

It's become a thing people have pointed to as why we as a community on Gamespot are dwindling.

If you don't like it, good for you, but Jesus man. Making things up? Trying to manipulate people? *That* is what we're doing now?

@dorog1995: Shame I never find reviews on Steam helpful, but after some research it does appear Jedi Outcast looks to be better than the games I've played with the Star Wars name on it.

And true, I enjoy a good stabby game, lol. Just to be safe I'll wait on a sale. I'm not expecting a great game but so long as its better than the games I've mentioned I'll give it a thumbs up. . . If I remember to check it out, only game that has my eyes right now is TEW2 :)

Ive taken a stand against AAA games that incorporate too much DLC, have free-to-play mechanics/economy, have season passes. I refuse to spend my money on these games until they learn to stop trying to suck every penny out of the consumer. Which is sad given how much of a SW fan i am and would love to buy this game but EA cant stop screwing up the BF series.

@RSM-HQ: I Forgot to tell you, You Can try the Free Demo Of This Game which features a Level Not Available In The released version. Jedi Outcast and Academy have the Best Lightsaber combat that has ever been in Star Wars Games.

Same Here, TEW 2 is the Only Upcoming Game Right Now that has my attention.(But I'm not sure I Buy it on Launch since I Still haven't Downloaded and Played TEW 1's DLCs)

Yeah I've been seeing this too, the "Pay-2-Win" thing is what I see talked about most. it's kind of sad really, cause you could tell they were really trying to make this sequel a hit.

@dorog1995: Well then, I have little reason to say no :)

I'll have a quick opinion of it very soon, as I may just jump straight in.

The Evil Within Kidman DLC to me wasn't very enjoyable. After playing it all once, I was done. For story it's worth checking out as it fills in the plot-holes, but the gameplay has a lot to be desired. It's far too linear and scripted in its gameplay, lacks the flexibility you get in the main game which even now I would happily replay again and again on two different platforms.

*Impressions after the demo.

The level design threw me off early on, didn't know why everything was so uninspired and box'y. but seeing as I wanted to enjoy the combat, stuck that as my priority and found it pretty fun. Though must admit ended up spamming the light saber special move that boomerangs it everywhere, a bit OP that one. Seemed fun but don't think I'd get the whole game, as I think this is one of those games Star War fans should be checking out over Battle Front II if they haven't already.

Despite me thinking it would be a Devil May Cry clone, glad it was more of a FPS/ Action RPG hybrid, I came out thinking 'this is what the next Elder Scrolls combat should be like' oddly enough.

So, good recommendation, it's a game all Star Wars fans should probably check-out. Outside of level design, nothing negative to point out in that demo. Even though that lady killed that man at the end made me laugh at the physics.

The loot crates in the game are terrible.

It's a cash grab plain and simple. Tons of people will buy it because it's Star Wars. EA doesn't need to put any effort into it it will sell regardless. The market is full of uninformed casuals that buy stupid shit.

@lucidique: It's not a movie tie in plus it is part of the Battlefront series, which produced very good games during the PS2 era.

It is very much a movie tie-in. It's tying in all of the movies , as a matter of fact. I won't argue that some of the Star Wars game have been fun, especially the old battlefront games, but they never were of exceptional quality.

Every Star Wars game ever produced was in a way, a movie tie-in game, and the quality was always as such, even in kotor's case, which was a seriously watered down Bioware rpg.

People, stop buying EA.

@RSM-HQ: you can also try Jedi Academy's Demo which focuses more on Lightsaber Combat compare to Jedi Outcast.(Fighting lightsaber wielding enemies that can use the force)

Jedi Academy has character creation , double bladed Lightsaber and 2 lightsabers which make some fans to prefer it over Jedi Outcast.

That's weird. one of the main highlights of Jedi Outcast was it's great Level Design. what makes the level design bad in your opinion ? I remember playing it few years ago and didn't have any problem with it.

It should be getting hammered, its shit.

I played the beta for a few days and its utterly clear that its a pay to win game at full price. If they want to fix this i might consider buying it, but whatever. I avoided buying the first one because on release it was equivalent to a demo and then they wanted you to pay for the rest of the game as they got around to it, so... yah, sorry, i refuse to support these practices.

I swear, this thread epitomizes why GameSpot is now known as "the hive."

Someone says something and everybody innately falls for it. No individual thought whatsoever.

The crate system is a joke and it's getting old to see it in every game released within the last 8 months, but come on. Think for yourselves.
The original header for this entire thread was utter nonsense. An outright fabrication. If you took that, as some kind of absolute word that is undeniably true, then you need to just play things for yourself.

The beta was clunky, the blasters felt like firearms, not blasters. A lot of things outright didn't work. But never, four or seven days ago, was it getting torn to shreds by a rabid fanbase. I would know. I was
on the forums from day one taking feedback into account.

I wasn't joking. This thread has been posted in probably a dozen places, and the response to this thread was almost universally the same, constant mocking at what GameSpot has apparently become.

It's news to me that GameSpot is some kind of hive of scum and villainy, but this does not make a good case for the community. This is a really shady echo-chamber. A really obvious attempt to create
an environment where people would congregate to bash something in specific. There are more than a few people here, in fact, mostly a plurality, that are contributing at least semi-meaningfully to this topic.

You protest AAA games? Great, that's a noble pursuit. The crates are a monstrosity. They *say* they're being changed in the final game. I am skeptical at best. The first game was barebones. Nothing to do. It was bland. Battlefront 2 is shaping up to be so much better, but with an obvious catch. There is a good chance they're going to go for pay-to-win. That's an actual topic. Making up a clickbaity title, claiming that the fan response was vilification, is just shady. It's bad. It's extremely bad conduct, for this community, for anyone with actual criticisms and reasons to not like it. The creator himself has valid points as to why it's bad, but he is also using his clickbait title to lure in and deliberately deter people. Let people think for themselves. Let them figure things out on their own. I wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for the outside criticism we're getting now due to this specific thread. People are posting it on Twitter, Facebook, and they aren't doing it to praise us, as a community or as critics.

@geoffrey_readin: Wait, are you saying I made up every single negative thread on the EA forums? The majority of threads I came across bashed the loot crates and a lot of the actual game mechanics. That then spilled onto youtube with countless videos of people complaining about the beta. If you think Ive manipulated the entire internet then I am flattered.

@kod: I dont really buy SW games as most of them are utter crap but I mainly played this one cos it was a free beta and I heard before the release of the beta that the game was headed in the right direction...I'm glad the beta helped clear that up lol

@dorog1995: Sorry if you missed it dood but I already explained what I didn't like about the level design, however that statement was more a reflection to overall as most the rooms are well. . Just generic boxes, the generator area had a lot of layers which I really liked, was my favorite part of the demo.

If the main game has more places like that? I would take my opinion with a grain of salt because I only played the demo which ends after fighting that Jedi.

okay this is weird nobody bash`s DICE this bad during say every battlefield that has shortcuts aka P2W but when its battlefront 2 now people lose there minds seriously as long as its not a unbalanced mess no issue with me however if my experiences in battlefield series which has these types of mircotransactions were in for a bumpy ride but hey at least we get all maps for free this time so thats a plus?

You know exactly what I said. You read the same thing we all did.

@swantn5 That's primarily because of the nature of this thread.

I'm not sure what you'd expect from the one thread that claims to have caught the forums at what is apparently the absolute pinnacle of "getting hammered" for Battlefront 2. That's a stretch. I really doubt there was a fever-pitch that OP just happened to catch in the midst of everything else.

Because, again, this thread is being posted everywhere now. Even people who loathe DICE think this is a joke. Entire Facebook groups have literally went back 5, 10, 15 pages on the forums looking for this based off of the time it was posted, and never was there even half a page filled with vilification.

@geoffrey_readin: Aside from the EA forums, it's still getting hammered without mentioning the EA forums at all. They are mainly talking about the loot crates and microtransactions effecting the gameplay and how much they cost.

Are you working for EA?

@GameboyTroy: Let's go with that.

But uh, again, no, it's not "getting hammered." Unlike the cesspit known as this thread, people there can be unhappy about something without condescendingly referring to it as "filth." That's if we're even pretending the entirety of the forums are the unironic synonym of a fanboy, just in reverse. Aside from that one entertaining glance at it, in the most real form of it, if it even was true, this thread is still pretty unapologetically manipulative. Trying to tell people how to think by saying something is "filth" while dodging requests for links is literally impossible to misread. So even if OP was telling the truth, and if we're pretending your exact same mannerisms aren't patently able to be read like a colouring book, this thread is *still* a cesspool of obvious intent.

But given that, again, literally any human being that sees this thread, has the ability to see the EA forums, it's not even something that you can realistically be deceiving, manipulative, or shady about. You can certainly try, and people have, but it hasn't panned out, now has it?

We get it, you don't like the game. Congratulations. Articulating that doesn't constitute falsification of reality. Especially when this reality is public and available for *everyone* to see. If you see this thread, the odds are you have an internet connection or access to one, meaning you would have to be acting deliberately to tell yourself otherwise.

@GameboyTroy: In and of itself, OP was not referring to anything *but* the EA forums.

The line of thought you are posing is a red-herring. A derailment.

OP claiming the game is getting panned is a blatant self-deception. OP did not start this thread panning microtransactions. If we're even going to get into that mess, it's barely even able to be used as an excuse to pretend a game is "getting hammered" on *any* medium. EA forums, YouTube, reddit, or otherwise. It does not matter. Fan outrage at microtransactions is nothing new. We just watched it explode in Shadow of War's face, with good reason. But even then, being extremely apprehensive at a preliminary glance at a system, be it one person, or a fanbase that is already suspicious of something, like EA's pitfalls of implementing microtransactions to such a fiercely guarded franchise, that does not constitute some kind of massive critical or fan panning of the game.

It amounts to more of the same. The same outrage you see when microtransactions are involved. No. It's not getting hammered.
Again, anyone can see the reaction. Angry Joe, etcetera, being pissed at what looks like something that has the potential to disrupt the game, that isn't some "getting hammered" phenomenon.

Shadow of War? Massive, seemingly endless rage at the microtransaction system.
How did that translate to fan and critical response? It didn't.
The response has been pretty fond.

Pretending that a vocal issue, by a plurality or minority, constitutes anything but being a "hot button issue," and that it's translating to a game being vilified, getting hammered, panned, or otherwise, is just, frankly, more self-deception.

@geoffrey_readin: I'm sure that Battlefront 2 is a hot button issue on Gamefaqs.com and Youtube. There has been a lot of threads about the loot crates on Gamefaqs.

Can you tone down the loot crates and microtransactions please?

@GameboyTroy:

That guy has GOT TO BE WORKING FOR EA. I can't see it any other way.

EA can't even hide the pay to win nature and are basically trying to say "oh well, theres content where no money is needed" but the mere fact that money is needed and actual in game, skill wise progression is so slow is another problem. EAs response? "Well, we will fine tune it"... translated to "we're just saying all this but nothing will change come release."

I will stress another point, its not just the micro transactions that have been the problem but the lame, slow, feet stuck in mud game play on offer. It's about time big developers and publishers were taken to task for merely selling their product on the basis of a popular license.

@soul_starter: Working for EA by methodically picking apart your utter garbage arguments and delusions of grandeur. Yes. Definitely.

@soul_starter: I'm not even kidding. People are *laughing* at you. 100% of the reasons have always been, on other mediums, that you like to think your avoidance behavior, and cognitive dissonance, isn't just on full display. It is. Your response to being repeatedly responded to, at length, is to avoid it, or make excuses as to why it's not valid. It's sad. You can stress whatever point you'd like. You are still going on at length, without saying a word, why self-deception and cognitive dissonance is more important than facts as they stand.

If you can't defend your trite nonsense, end the thread. You have discredited yourself enough. Anyone you attempt to engage past this point would likely cease taking you seriously if they saw this. It's that bad. It's a crude, electronic form of demagoguery. And this is a pretty pathetic hill to die on.

@soul_starter: What this is, in its rawest form, is, well, shady. It's not the hill you want to die on because this isn't some shilling for the game. Saying that it's shaping up to be pay-to-win? Does that seem like something an EA employee would say? I mean really it's just more demagoguery. The idea of an "other." Siphons legitimacy from the "other" by associating them with a group you have already dehumanized. This thread could have literally been actual critical analysis of everything. That isn't what we got here.

I wanted to love the first one so much, it looked and sounded terrific. But the gameplay was absolutely TERRIBLE. Boring online run and gun, even worse offline run and gun to collect tokens.

I love lootboxes. I make like 50k a month, so I can just get all the gold cards on day 1 :)

Battlefront 2 is probably going to suck.

I never ended up getting the first one. Played the 10 hour trial through EA Access, but I have this one pre-ordered. Didn't try the beta, but this game looks like it has a lot in it, where the first one was just hallow. It will be a casual/fun shooter for me.