Destiny producer says the game starts at level 20

Been having loads of fun in this game, i have to agree. It looks to be more of an mmo compared to other shooters.

Too bad it doesn't start at level 1.

Well he really means the game takes off after level 20. That's where the real game begins

I may be completely out of my mind here but a tutorial that lasts 20 levels before it lets you get immersed in a game sounds like a drag.

That' every mmo ever

@The_Last_Ride: I wish I had my Ps4 already, so I can try it. I don't know if its worth it on the Ps3, or 360.

I can certainly see his point. I'm currently level 24 and having a great time playing this excellent game.

i'm 21, and i am having a blast aswell

From 20 onward, you will be improving upon your character so that you will be able to participate in the high level content, which, judging by the Raid footage, will offer more epic experiences. People who have not problem with the game right now are just enjoying the loot and mechanics, and that is cool, but I can still see the how the mission structure that the game has so far, would suggest to a lot of people that the missions would be boring. But, patience is a virtue I guess.

People just don't know how to play games that require a little effort...

Makes sense, most games of its nature tend to take a bit to get going.

But why?

Surely one can shorten it down to the first five levels on how to play the game and then have the game go " This is a place you could go, Have fun" and let you discover for yourself.

You know, you can do that, you can play pvp after the first mission. You can on and try patrols aswell. You need to go higher to try strikes though

it's a good game if you like shooters

Yeah. I will admit that ,after playing the beta and seeing how reviews suggested that the mission were structured the same, I thought that people had a right to be kind of mad. But the Raid footage restored my faith in the game. Honestly, if my internet did not suck ass, I would probably be enjoying the game with people right now, but someone like me is forced to only watch other people enjoy the game until I improve my situation in some way.

Games should start being good at the start.

That is certainly not true.

Why doesn't it begin at level 1.

Thats a long tutorial time. Man games are being more and more targeted at casual mainstream audiences.

Because the first level is the tutorial

@JangoWuzHere: how is that not true`?

Well, for most MMO's, yes, the PvP and unlocking of the more interesting game mechanics actually really only starts at levels 25 and above (usually at 25, 30, and 35, depending on the game).

So the game is designed to not be fun when it starts.

Games should be fun from the very beginning. There is no way in hell that I'm going to waste my time playing a game that feels like a chore to play through for 20 hours before it supposedly gets good.

It's not true, anyway. Not counting the raid, level 20 just means doing everything you've already done over and over again on a different difficulty setting until the RNG grants you equipment solid enough to jump to the next difficulty setting or you manage to accrue enough rep to just buy what you need from one of the vendors. But there is literally nothing new about level 20 beyond the raid...no new areas, no "max level" zones like you'd expect to find in this type of game.

I wouldn't mind doing stuff over so much, personally, but there is surprisingly little unique content for a game of this type in the first place. Worlds are really not that big and there's a lot of overlap in the areas used for story missions and strikes.

So the game take off at level 20... Then we should be stick on the runway for 19 levels...

The game is fun starting at level 1, in fact it's great right up to level 18, then you really need to grind to make it to the next level.

Have you actually played it?

Yes, when it was called Borderlands.

@Pffrbt: The game feels a lot different from Borderlands, in that it's actually much more fun to kill and grind for things in Destiny than in Borderlands. Destiny doesn't just hand you loot like it's candy, you actually have to work for it, which I like.

yeah, so that means no... So basicly you're just bashing it without any playtime. Nice...

The producer of the game is the one that said the game is designed to be boring.

I'm pretty sure you still do the same stuff at level 20 that you did at level 3.

No, if you have played any mmo, you know that's how they are played

@The_Last_Ride

For People with Too Much time on their hands ?

Although to be fair I spent the last 3 months gaining 190 Levels in Dark Arisen.... Only ten more Levels to go.... Then I can go kill the Reaper.

Yes. They're designed to be repetitive, tedious, boring garbage.

Meh. Just because the game opens up at level 20 doesn't mean that that's only when the fun starts. I've been enjoying this game right from the get-go. Having things open up more at level 20 just means that I'll keep enjoying it for much longer.

@Pffrbt

Context is everything.... Its only "repetitive, tedious,

boring garbage" to people who are capable of recognizing patterns and vicious cycles.

uhm no, it just requires dedication and patience combined with skill

@The_Last_Ride

Is this real skill or just another stat in the game called "Skill" ?

What exactly happens as you level up ? Do you get new Mechanics to toy with like Bioshock or is Stat Bonuses for pre-existing Mechanics ?

And my fuk giving machine starts at 20 reasons. Bungie has given me none so far.

@Lulu_Lulu: You get new abilities as you level up, which are independent from your actual level. Your base level is a means to obtain better equipment, and your abilities level the more you use them. You can also get different effects on abilities, such as different grenade types, different buffs for your super ability, and more maneuvering, all of which are interchangeable as soon as you obtain them. The stats in the game are 3: intelligence, discipline, and strength. The only thing these stats do is decrease the cooldown timer of your different abilities, such as your powered melee, grenade, and super attack. All of this comes from the armor you equip and upgrade with items you find throughout the game. Stats are merely there to reduce time limits. The rest of the game is all centered around your skill as an FPS player.

What I'm interested in is: does it have anything to do with Marathon Infinity at all, especially that game's ending?
Or did they just call it Destiny because reasons

No, actual skill.

You get stats on gear that you earn, the better gear the more "Light". You need skill getting those if you want the pvp gear or the strike gear.

It's called marketing and damage control. Keep playing they are saying so we can sell you dlc.

@mastermetal777

Also wouldn't better Gear generate Complacency ?

@The_Last_Ride

Think this will hold people's interest for long ? Doesn't seem likely people will Continue to play this for very long considering the Character Progression.

@Lulu_Lulu: It will, it's how all mmo's work. They will add an expansion and also add more free content to keep players there

I knew this game was going to suck after playing the beta. Angry Joe's Destiny reviewis the most thorough and entertaining one I've seen so far.