did the xbox 360 controller get copied?

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#1 himankz
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Here is a simple comparison I did between the xbox 360 and the dreamcast controller.

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#2 trophylocoste
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Dude their both by microsoft and peter moore was with both of them
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#3 munu9
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Dude their both by microsoft and peter moore was with both of themtrophylocoste

Really? Both made by microsoft? Explain...

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#4 himankz
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They BOTH were made by microsoft? Really? I never knew.

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#5 Gen-Gawl
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they really don't look that similar to me. I think the colors are making it seem more alike than it really is.
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#6 erawsd
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The 360 controller borrows ideas from pretty much every tradition controller since the NES. Thats not a bad thing at all, since I think its the best we've had yet.
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#7 strat505
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i always thought the 360 and dreamcast controllers looked similar as well:|
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#8 AtomicTangerine
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If you want to be fair, the standard controllers that the PS3 and 360 use are just Super NES pads with 2 joysticks and 2 extra shoulder or trigger buttons. In turn, that was just 2 extra face buttons and 2 shoulder buttons away from a NES controller.
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#9 TrinacriaX
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Sock Master's Game Console Controller Family Tree:

http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/

"How did the current home-console controllers come to be? How have they evolved? You may have noticed some similarities between the current generation controllers, or between them and the previous generations of controllers. So, how do they all tie together? "-Sock Master

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#10 AlwaysSoft
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Other than the fact that the face buttons share the same letters, the two controllers look to be different in every way imaginable. That's even without delving into the fact that the X360 controller has 2 more shoulder buttons, an extra analogue stick, a Home button, and a select button.

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#11 TrinacriaX
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Other than the fact that the face buttons share the same letters, the two controllers look to be different in every way imaginable. That's even without delving into the fact that the X360 controller has 2 more shoulder buttons, an extra analogue stick, a Home button, and a select button.

(Wrong)

FACT:

The "360" controller is a direct descendant of the Dreamcast controller.

The Sixaxis' kin is the NES controller.

Their "Eve" is the ATARI joystick

AlwaysSoft
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#12 Funkyhamster
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The 360 more accurately copied the Gamecube controller, in terms of analog stick layout (arguably the most important factor of a controller). Which is good, because the Gamecube did the analog sticks right.

The 360 controller was pretty much Xbox 1 controller + GC controller. And the Xbox controller was a fairly direct Dual Shock ripoff (at least that's the way it seemed to me).

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#13 AlwaysSoft
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[QUOTE="AlwaysSoft"]

Other than the fact that the face buttons share the same letters, the two controllers look to be different in every way imaginable. That's even without delving into the fact that the X360 controller has 2 more shoulder buttons, an extra analogue stick, a Home button, and a select button.

(Wrong)

FACT:

The "360" controller is a direct descendant of the Dreamcast controller.

The Sixaxis' kin is the NES controller.

Their "Eve" is the ATARI joystick

TrinacriaX

Direct descendant eh? So controllers CAN give birth! Well then of course everything you just stated is, indeed, a fact. Silly me.
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#14 erawsd
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The 360 more accurately copied the Gamecube controller, in terms of analog stick layout (arguably the most important factor of a controller). Which is good, because the Gamecube did the analog sticks right.

Funkyhamster

What do you mean? The 360 analog layout is exactly the same as the regular xbox.

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#15 TrinacriaX
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[QUOTE="TrinacriaX"][QUOTE="AlwaysSoft"]

Other than the fact that the face buttons share the same letters, the two controllers look to be different in every way imaginable. That's even without delving into the fact that the X360 controller has 2 more shoulder buttons, an extra analogue stick, a Home button, and a select button.

(Wrong)

FACT:

The "360" controller is a direct descendant of the Dreamcast controller.

The Sixaxis' kin is the NES controller.

Their "Eve" is the ATARI joystick

AlwaysSoft

Direct descendant eh? So controllers CAN give birth! Well then of course everything you just stated is, indeed, a fact. Silly me.

Hey, lost in translation!

It's called a metaphor.

(pause)

But, still a fact.

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#16 joeamis
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Sock Master's Game Console Controller Family Tree:

http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/

"How did the current home-console controllers come to be? How have they evolved? You may have noticed some similarities between the current generation controllers, or between them and the previous generations of controllers. So, how do they all tie together? "-Sock Master

TrinacriaX

Awesome link there! Longtime gamers know every controller is based in some way shape or form on previous controllers. Everyone has copied everyone in some degree. What gets me in this type of discussion is not if a controller is similar but rather other design choices. Look at the Gamecubes controller ports, they look exactly like the Dreamcast's.

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#17 VMan
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I realized this a long time ago with the original Xbox controller. The original Xbox controller was clearly modelled after the Dreamcast controller which was modelled after the Sega Saturn Analog controller. The Controller S was simply a smaller version of that, the Xbox 360 controller is simply a slight remix of that.

This is the true origin of them all, folks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sega_saturn_analog_controller.jpg

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#18 shufu7-11
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Who cares? As long as the controller lets you play games, does it really matter if it was copied or not?
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#19 _x_offspring_x_
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They're kinda similar, but who cares.
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#20 Dire_Weasel
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There's no question the xbox and the xbox 360 controller "borrowed" many elements from the Dreamcast controller.

If you've ever owned a Dreamcast, it's impossible not to see the similarites.

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#21 Gen-Gawl
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every generation borrows from the previous. if a controller turns out to have a good design others will incorporate those aspects into the next generation.
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#22 synce
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You could say EVERY console copied SNES. Now except for the d-pad, the 360 controller is PERFECT. Perfect button layout, perfect shape, perfect weight, perfect everything. That's all that matters.
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#23 Lance_C
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The article you have been looking for is located here.
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:o
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#25 himankz
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You could say EVERY console copied SNES. Now except for the d-pad, the 360 controller is PERFECT. Perfect button layout, perfect shape, perfect weight, perfect everything. That's all that matters.synce

Comapred to the ps3 controller, its better then any controller out there. Matched to perfection.

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#26 Hell_Dude
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So, they took a good controller, and made it bether.
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#27 yayyfood
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most console controllers are just improvements and variations on older controllers and thats really the way its been for a while. maybe except for the wiimote that thing is pretty original as far as i know, controllers no matter which company made them are really improvements of successfull controllers from previous generations
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#28 martialbullet
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I actually thought that the original "DUKE" xbox controller was similar to that of the dreamcast controller cause of its bulky size and shape.But its really no surprise to most people.

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You could say EVERY console copied SNES. Now except for the d-pad, the 360 controller is PERFECT. Perfect button layout, perfect shape, perfect weight, perfect everything. That's all that matters.synce

No motion controls = obsolete

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#30 Devouring_One
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The Xbox 360 copied off the Dreamcast. If you think that they looks similiar, check out the original Xbox controller.
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#31 Life_is_Limbo
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triggers take away from the gameplay
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#32 noobkiller205
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I dont think they were copied most controllers have thumbsticks a direntnal pads so you cant really say anything about that.
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#33 Old_Gooseberry
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I like the dreamcast D-pad better, wish the 360 had copied that. Or even copied the playstation dpad
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#34 DanMisfits11
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trophylocoste wrote:Dude their both by microsoft and peter moore was with both of them

I thought the Dreamcast was made by Sega. Because whenever you load a game The word Sega came up

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#36 yayyfood
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trophylocoste wrote:Dude their both by microsoft and peter moore was with both of them

I thought the Dreamcast was made by Sega. Because whenever you load a game The word Sega came up

DanMisfits11

LMAO! people dont think

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#37 Old_Gooseberry
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[QUOTE="DanMisfits11"]

trophylocoste wrote:Dude their both by microsoft and peter moore was with both of them

I thought the Dreamcast was made by Sega. Because whenever you load a game The word Sega came up

yayyfood

LMAO! people dont think

I think he did work high up for Sega, so its possible he had some say in the dreamcast controller. maybe thats why the xbox/x360 controller is close

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#38 hazuki
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The triggers are very similar as well. When I was playing shenmue 2 on the 360, I kept on thinking how similar the controller was when i played the japanese shenmue 2 on the dreamcast. Well, the dreamcast didn't have a much needed right analog stick but it still was a good controller.
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#39 nopalversion
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Analog triggers for the win.
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#40 Ash2X
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The Dreamcast-Pad was aimproved Version of the Saturn-Analog-Pad and M$ copied it becasue the idea behind it was great.The analog-L/R-Triggers for example.Thanks to the 2nd Analog-stick it feels more natural for Games like FPS to control.It was acceptable on the DC(and better then on the PS2) but not perfect.I think the 360 controller feels by far better in the Hand then any other controller ever.It doesn´t look that great,but who cares?Ì want to play with it!