Do you consider camping or noob tubing in Call Of Duty a skill?

So I've been playing Modern Warfare 3 with a couple of friends, doing multiplayer. Most matches I've got into is dealing with two kinds of people. Campers and noob tubers.

I've always enjoyed combat when it is up close and personal. As in, you find each other on the field and you shoot them down or they shoot you down. Win or lose, it's fair game and they win the battle. Unfortunately, most cases, that doesn't happen at all. Nowdays, I see people becoming nothing but cowards, staying in one piece and sniping people all the time. They are afraid to come out and fight like true players. And then there are the noob tubers, who can't win in a real fight and have to rely on throwing rockets all around to kill everything in sight. To me, in my humble opinion, doing either tactic is NOT skill. I don't mind if it was just a quick thing with sniping, but unfortunately, people do not do this all the time. They are nothing but b****** and prefer to act like cowards in doing so. It isn't skill at all, at least to me.

How do you feel about camping and noob tubing in FPS games like Call Of Duty? Are they skill or not?

Well nothing in call of duty is really skill based per say.... so compared to everything else in that game i see it as no worse.

Call of Duty games are the best games for non-gamers, and it makes them think it makes themknow everything about games.

Gamers know at least 15+ more entertaining and engrossing games and wouldnt be caught dead playing mw3.

... except if youre playing with friends and if youre extremely bored and want some sick kicks,or want to troll the crap out of kids online. Lol

but seriously, noob tubes arent really as OP as in mw2. and my 11 yr old cousincamps and he laughs while he is, and i laugh with him cuz its funny. xD

skill in CoD?:lol:

I see I've come late to the COD-bashing party, as usual. Really people?

Whether you admit it or not, COD does take some level of skill - how else would I be able to consistently beat some players, or get consistently beaten by others, if it did not? It may not require the dedication of something like Counterstrike, but you can't be garbage at playing and do great at the same time.

And at one of the other above comments, COD is for "non-gamers" who like to think they know everything? Hardly. Just because someone has an interest in another type of game you don't, doesn't mean they're any less intelligent.

As for camping and noob-tubing, those are playstyle choices that I don't think really qualify as "skills", and while annoying both are easily countered. Campers are always going to be vulnerable to grenades/flashbangs/noobtubes, and usually are not much of a problem. As for noobtubes, while they were admittedly a problem in MW2, in MW3 they were nerfed significantly and I hardly ever see them being used.

skill in CoD?:lol:

almasdeathchild

thats what i said...lol

I see I've come late to the COD-bashing party, as usual. Really people?

Whether you admit it or not, COD does take some level of skill - how else would I be able to consistently beat some players, or get consistently beaten by others, if it did not? It may not require the dedication of something like Counterstrike, but you can't be garbage at playing and do great at the same time.

And at one of the other above comments, COD is for "non-gamers" who like to think they know everything? Hardly. Just because someone has an interest in another type of game you don't, doesn't mean they're any less intelligent.

As for camping and noob-tubing, those are playstyle choices that I don't think really qualify as "skills", and while annoying both are easily countered. Campers are always going to be vulnerable to grenades/flashbangs/noobtubes, and usually are not much of a problem. As for noobtubes, while they were admittedly a problem in MW2, in MW3 they were nerfed significantly and I hardly ever see them being used.

Vari3ty

no one said anything about CoD not being fun, it just doesnt require much skill, once again still a fun game.

noob tubing?Allicrombie

Noob tubing means just using rockets only and just killing people with rockets. They don't use other guns during multiplayer.

skill in CoD?:lol:

almasdeathchild

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

I see I've come late to the COD-bashing party, as usual. Really people?

Whether you admit it or not, COD does take some level of skill - how else would I be able to consistently beat some players, or get consistently beaten by others, if it did not? It may not require the dedication of something like Counterstrike, but you can't be garbage at playing and do great at the same time.

And at one of the other above comments, COD is for "non-gamers" who like to think they know everything? Hardly. Just because someone has an interest in another type of game you don't, doesn't mean they're any less intelligent.

As for camping and noob-tubing, those are playstyle choices that I don't think really qualify as "skills", and while annoying both are easily countered. Campers are always going to be vulnerable to grenades/flashbangs/noobtubes, and usually are not much of a problem. As for noobtubes, while they were admittedly a problem in MW2, in MW3 they were nerfed significantly and I hardly ever see them being used.

frannkzappa

no one said anything about CoD not being fun, it just doesnt require much skill, once again still a fun game.

easy just about everything is a instant kill you just point and shoot at a moving target. it's mind numbingly basic and casuel.

that's CoD in a nutshell

So I've been playing Modern Warfare 3 with a couple of friends, doing multiplayer. Most matches I've got into is dealing with two kinds of people. Campers and noob tubers.

I've always enjoyed combat when it is up close and personal. As in, you find each other on the field and you shoot them down or they shoot you down. Win or lose, it's fair game and they win the battle. Unfortunately, most cases, that doesn't happen at all. Nowdays, I see people becoming nothing but cowards, staying in one piece and sniping people all the time. They are afraid to come out and fight like true players. And then there are the noob tubers, who can't win in a real fight and have to rely on throwing rockets all around to kill everything in sight. To me, in my humble opinion, doing either tactic is NOT skill. I don't mind if it was just a quick thing with sniping, but unfortunately, people do not do this all the time. They are nothing but b****** and prefer to act like cowards in doing so. It isn't skill at all, at least to me.

How do you feel about camping and noob tubing in FPS games like Call Of Duty? Are they skill or not?

Metamania

Noob tubing means just using rockets only and just killing people with rockets. They don't use other guns during multiplayer.Metamania

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but how the hell do these terms get coined? I mean, "noob tubing"? Really? That doesn't even make sense!

[QUOTE="Metamania"]Noob tubing means just using rockets only and just killing people with rockets. They don't use other guns during multiplayer.c_rake

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but how the hell do these terms get coined? I mean, "noob tubing"? Really? That doesn't even make sense!

Anything is fair game in an online shooter like that. Trying to regulate how people play based on what you like/dislike is kind of weak.

fighting games spam is called cheesing:?almasdeathchild

I know, right? That's even dumber!

[QUOTE="Metamania"]Noob tubing means just using rockets only and just killing people with rockets. They don't use other guns during multiplayer.c_rake

Not to steer this thread off-topic, but how the hell do these terms get coined? I mean, "noob tubing"? Really? That doesn't even make sense!

I wouldn't call anything in CoD a skill, but crying over a camper or a tuber is silly and immature.

- if you keep getting killed by a camper in the same spot....stop going there, or overcome him

- a grenade launcher is part of war, it's there to be used, nothing is cheap

lol There is nothing in CoD that requires skill. There is no strategy to the game. You just run around and hope you find someone who isnt looking at you, or if he is, you hpoe you shoot first. The only strategy in the game is camping. that's it.

It's a fun game, but terrible respawns, awful map design, generous aim assits, broken perks and killstreaks make it one of the worst designed games ever. Of course people will camp, who likes dying 20 times in a five minute match?

Play better shooters.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"] [QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

I see I've come late to the COD-bashing party, as usual. Really people?

Whether you admit it or not, COD does take some level of skill - how else would I be able to consistently beat some players, or get consistently beaten by others, if it did not? It may not require the dedication of something like Counterstrike, but you can't be garbage at playing and do great at the same time.

And at one of the other above comments, COD is for "non-gamers" who like to think they know everything? Hardly. Just because someone has an interest in another type of game you don't, doesn't mean they're any less intelligent.

As for camping and noob-tubing, those are playstyle choices that I don't think really qualify as "skills", and while annoying both are easily countered. Campers are always going to be vulnerable to grenades/flashbangs/noobtubes, and usually are not much of a problem. As for noobtubes, while they were admittedly a problem in MW2, in MW3 they were nerfed significantly and I hardly ever see them being used.

jsmoke03

no one said anything about CoD not being fun, it just doesnt require much skill, once again still a fun game.

well for one the game is based on reaction time and flanking.

reaction time because people die so quick consistant aiming is unnecessary, not to say aiming isn't important but anyone can get a kill in that game having never played before purely due to twitch reactions.

flanking: in my years of playing CoD (been playing since modern warfare 1, wich is by far the best imo) I've noticed that around 90% of the time you die to someone you cant see. this caused by the ridiculously low FoV this game provides. CoD is pretty much hide and seek, you see a guy first you get a kill, the other guy sees you first he gets a kill.(as opposed to UT,TF2,Tribes...etc where it takes much longer to kill someone.)

Plus the entire point of this game is to have a very low learning curve and skill ceiling. they did that so anyone could jump on for 20 min get a bunch of kills, get some killstreaks, see some explotions, and generaly have a quick fun time and then feel acomplished afterwords.

Now there's nothing wrong with that, in fact its great fun and is making infinity ward/ treyarch millions.Cod is a lot of things Hard or skilled based aren't one of them.

[QUOTE="jsmoke03"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

no one said anything about CoD not being fun, it just doesnt require much skill, once again still a fun game.

frannkzappa

well for one the game is based on reaction time and flanking.

reaction time because people die so quick consistant aiming is unnecessary, not to say aiming isn't important but anyoneone can get a kill in that game having never played before purely do to twitch reactions.

flanking: in my years of playing CoD (been playing since modern warfare 1, wich is by far the best imo) I've noticed that around 90% of the time you die to someone you cant see. this caused by the ridiculously low FoV this game provides. CoD is pretty much hide and seek, you see a guy first you get a kill, the other guy sees you first he gets a kill.(as opposed to UT,TF2,Tribes...etc where it takes much longer to kill someone.)

Plus the entire point of this game is to have a very low learning curve and skill ceiling. they did that so anyone could jump on for 20 min get a bunch of kills, get some killstreaks, see some explotions, and generaly have a quick fun time and then feel acomplished afterwords.

Now there's nothing wrong with that, in fact its great fun and is making infinity ward/ treyarch millions.Cod is a lot of things Hard or skilled based aren't one of them.

Exactly what this guy said. IMO COD really comes down to who saw who first.wavey_gravey

[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]Exactly what this guy said. IMO COD really comes down to who saw who first.Black_Knight_00

your not trying to say CoD is realistic are you?

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]Exactly what this guy said. IMO COD really comes down to who saw who first.frannkzappa

your not trying to say CoD is realistic are you?

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] You mean like in the real world?

Black_Knight_00

your not trying to say CoD is realistic are you?

well i wasnt arguing that CoD was unrealistic, i said see first mechanic isnt skill based.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

your not trying to say CoD is realistic are you?

frannkzappa

well i wasnt arguing that CoD was unrealistic, i said see first mechanic isnt skill based.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

your not trying to say CoD is realistic are you?

frannkzappa

well i wasnt arguing that CoD was unrealistic, i said see first mechanic isnt skill based.

Speaking of realism or unrealism, whatever the case may be, I have another argument that makes COD pretty much dumb (I can't say the r word, but use it for your imagination). Why is it that, if you shoot someone multiple times, they don't die, but it takes them only one bullet to kill you? I've seen this happen MULTIPLE times and it's pretty stupid.

:lol: @ this thread. The n00bometer just went to 11. Learn to play n00bs. This game requires no strategy? I guess thats why people destroy you online then you come to cry about it on the internet. You haven't taken the time to learn the game, I don't think anyone in this thread besides Blackknight has a clue what they are talking about when it comes to this game. Don't worry I just called 911 the waaahmbulance is on it's way.GodModeEnabled

wow I've got to say my opinion of CoD is now completely different. Thank you for showing the errors of my ways oh great and wise sage of video gameing.

but in all seriousness its things like that give the CoD community a bad name.

i mean chill out man its a video game peoples opinions on it shouldn't affect you that much.

[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]Exactly what this guy said. IMO COD really comes down to who saw who first.Black_Knight_00

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] Of course not, but that's not the best argument to prove it's unrealistic. Even in real war if you see the enemy first you're likely going to shoot him first.Metamania

well i wasnt arguing that CoD was unrealistic, i said see first mechanic isnt skill based.

Speaking of realism or unrealism, whatever the case may be, I have another argument that makes COD pretty much dumb (I can't say the r word, but use it for your imagination). Why is it that, if you shoot someone multiple times, they don't die, but it takes them only one bullet to kill you? I've seen this happen MULTIPLE times and it's pretty stupid.

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

well i wasnt arguing that CoD was unrealistic, i said see first mechanic isnt skill based.

AcidSoldner

Speaking of realism or unrealism, whatever the case may be, I have another argument that makes COD pretty much dumb (I can't say the r word, but use it for your imagination). Why is it that, if you shoot someone multiple times, they don't die, but it takes them only one bullet to kill you? I've seen this happen MULTIPLE times and it's pretty stupid.

Exceot that, in my experience, I don't experience much lag at all. Flanking and all that happens and they get the drop on you, that's fine, but when it comes to face to face battles, you shoot down a guy big time, they are like invincible, and when they shoot you down, it's a one-hit kill BS deal. It's absolutely absurd!

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"]Exactly what this guy said. IMO COD really comes down to who saw who first.wavey_gravey

[QUOTE="wavey_gravey"][QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"] You mean like in the real world?Black_Knight_00

:lol: @ this thread. The n00bometer just went to 11. Learn to play n00bs. This game requires no strategy? I guess thats why people destroy you online then you come to cry about it on the internet. You haven't taken the time to learn the game, I don't think anyone in this thread besides Blackknight has a clue what they are talking about when it comes to this game. Don't worry I just called 911 the waaahmbulance is on it's way.GodModeEnabled

Look up my stats in the last three CoD games. You'll see that i know what Im talking about.

I don't think I'd classify them as skills per se but more like strategies and judging by how some complain about them pretty successful ones at that. It always struck me as being pretty childish to try to dictate an arbitrary set of rules on how other people should play a game. Outside of obvious cheats or exploits how an individual plays a game is entirely up to them based on the intended rules and regulations set forth by the developer.Archangel3371

I personally wont tell people how to play the game, but it's a sh*tty way to play it and ruins the games for everyone in the match. You're right in that it's not cheating and they are merely exploiting the game design's shortcomings.

I meant this is bs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX2rkj8z8nE

And it happened way too often in MW2. They have toned down these ridiculous kills in MW3 so it's not as common as it was in Black Ops or MW2, but things like these leave a bitter taste.

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I don't think I'd classify them as skills per se but more like strategies and judging by how some complain about them pretty successful ones at that. It always struck me as being pretty childish to try to dictate an arbitrary set of rules on how other people should play a game. Outside of obvious cheats or exploits how an individual plays a game is entirely up to them based on the intended rules and regulations set forth by the developer.S0lidSnake

I personally wont tell people how to play the game, but it's a sh*tty way to play it and ruins the games for everyone in the match. You're right in that it's not cheating and they are merely exploiting the game design's shortcomings.

I meant this is bs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX2rkj8z8nE

And it happened way too often in MW2. They have toned down these ridiculous kills in MW3 so it's not as common as it was in Black Ops or MW2, but things like these leave a bitter taste.

That video...holy %&*!! How in the (&^% is that crap possible? COD IS broken!

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="Archangel3371"]I don't think I'd classify them as skills per se but more like strategies and judging by how some complain about them pretty successful ones at that. It always struck me as being pretty childish to try to dictate an arbitrary set of rules on how other people should play a game. Outside of obvious cheats or exploits how an individual plays a game is entirely up to them based on the intended rules and regulations set forth by the developer.Metamania

I personally wont tell people how to play the game, but it's a sh*tty way to play it and ruins the games for everyone in the match. You're right in that it's not cheating and they are merely exploiting the game design's shortcomings.

I meant this is bs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX2rkj8z8nE

And it happened way too often in MW2. They have toned down these ridiculous kills in MW3 so it's not as common as it was in Black Ops or MW2, but things like these leave a bitter taste.

That video...holy %&*!! How in the (&^% is that crap possible? COD IS broken!

[QUOTE="Metamania"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

I personally wont tell people how to play the game, but it's a sh*tty way to play it and ruins the games for everyone in the match. You're right in that it's not cheating and they are merely exploiting the game design's shortcomings.

I meant this is bs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX2rkj8z8nE

And it happened way too often in MW2. They have toned down these ridiculous kills in MW3 so it's not as common as it was in Black Ops or MW2, but things like these leave a bitter taste.

Black_Knight_00

That video...holy %&*!! How in the (&^% is that crap possible? COD IS broken!

WTH? Jeez...

I had to look at the posting date, I could have sworn this topic was from 2007 :roll:

This is nothing new, and quite frankly it's still irritating reading people complain about noob tubing and campers. If you don't like the noob tube use the blast shield perk so they're one hit kill weapon is useless. Camping is when someone literally doesn't move. This is a game with kill cams. You know where they are. Noob tube them if you have to.

Or if you don't like it, play something else instead of trying to change the community or the rules of the game. That's what I did :P