Do you think Skyrim is overrated?

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="Metamania"]

Although my theory is highly unproven, companies and awards shows were more than likely paid off by Bethesda to give it GOTY and ignore everything else. Wishful thinking, I know, but it could very well be true.

Case in point; Game Informer gave Batman AC a 10 and I think Skyrim got a 9 or 9.5. And yet, it still won GOTY? Just because a game is vast and expansive doesn't necessarily mean it's a good game. Critics just simply don't get it.

Metamania

Well, that's your opinion, friend. You must have loved that game enough to buy it.

And Fallout New Vegas did receive low scores...I don't think it won GOTY though from a lot of critics.

Also, to HipHopBeats, scores have NOTHING to do with GOTY. At all. A game like Batman: Arkham City had little to no flaws and did everything just about right. You take a look like Skyrim and there's some problems to be found within it, not just the bugs or glitches. Combat I found to be boring, they throw A LOT of fetch quests at you, most of them forced upon you without a choice, and I just didn't get the fun out of it. Also, like I said before; a world may be vast and expansive, but it all comes down to gameplay and how fun it is and you know what? I didn't get the fun I wanted out of the game at all. So it didn't deserve GOTY whatsoever, not in my viewpoint anyway. Thus, it is overrated and overhyped to death. ES shouldn't be the measuring stick that all RPGs, both Western and Japanese, should be judged by and unfortunately, that's the view of many critics...if it fails to beat Skyrim's standards, you're nothing. Sad.

I agree. I'm not saying it's wack, in fact I think it's a good game but I don't see how it's the magnum opus standard by which all future rpg's must measure up ad atone to. GOTY year awards seem to lean more towards fanboyism more than scores imo. Especially when you consider the game breaking bugs present at the time of release.

Somehow, no reviewer seemed to notice any of the game breaking bugs and quests glitches everyone else encountered shortly after release. Makes me wonder did they dive deep into Skyrim before review or just reviewed it based off fanboyism? For every other rpg review I've seen, bugs and glitches are mentioned almost immediately.

I haven't had a chance to dive into Batman Ac yet but from the little I played, it definitely seems to be a more well rounded game than Skyrim. Skyrim was fun for the 1st 30 hours or so but the delightfulness wore off quickly after the clunky combat and nonstop fetch quests.

I may actually have to get a new controller just to finish Skyrim since everytime I run or engage battle, the analog stick seems to press down into sneak mode making combat even more of a nightmare than it already is. I honestly had more fun with other games that were compared to Skyrim as the wgaming worlds and lore may not have been as detailed as ES games, but the actual gameplay kept me more committed.

I see a lot of people saying they had more fun with Oblivion than Skyrim. I've heard the leveling system in Oblivion is broken but I may check it out since it's only $20.

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[QUOTE="Metamania"]

Although my theory is highly unproven, companies and awards shows were more than likely paid off by Bethesda to give it GOTY and ignore everything else. Wishful thinking, I know, but it could very well be true.

Case in point; Game Informer gave Batman AC a 10 and I think Skyrim got a 9 or 9.5. And yet, it still won GOTY? Just because a game is vast and expansive doesn't necessarily mean it's a good game. Critics just simply don't get it.

Metamania

Right...because scores mean EVERYTHING when deciding on GOTY. Right?

No.

Exactly.

The melee combat is extremely bad, the AI is exceptionally stupid and there is a massive lack of difference in the fighting styles of opponents.
Skyrim is a huge and beautifully world with endless lore, but the interaction with the world lacks severely due to the aforementioned combat problems and the huge amount of lackluster items. In the end, most players will realize that the game is nothing but a huge bore.

[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

It got GOTY due to fanboyism. I brought Skyrim in November and had to wait 3 months for Beth to sort out bugs enough to make it playable.

Although my theory is highly unproven, companies and awards shows were more than likely paid off by Bethesda to give it GOTY and ignore everything else. Wishful thinking, I know, but it could very well be true.

Case in point; Game Informer gave Batman AC a 10 and I think Skyrim got a 9 or 9.5. And yet, it still won GOTY? Just because a game is vast and expansive doesn't necessarily mean it's a good game. Critics just simply don't get it.

[QUOTE="AcidSoldner"][QUOTE="Metamania"]

Although my theory is highly unproven, companies and awards shows were more than likely paid off by Bethesda to give it GOTY and ignore everything else. Wishful thinking, I know, but it could very well be true.

Case in point; Game Informer gave Batman AC a 10 and I think Skyrim got a 9 or 9.5. And yet, it still won GOTY? Just because a game is vast and expansive doesn't necessarily mean it's a good game. Critics just simply don't get it.

ShadowsDemon

skyrim nothing but snow and buggy as hell

fonv nothing but desert and buggy as hell

both boring too

two sides of the same coin

To put it in perspective (or at least, my perspective) the only people I know that play Skyrim are the same people that have been playing nothing but Elder Scroll games since the dawn of time, or newcomers to the RPG genre as a whole.

With that said, it's very well possible that Skyrim could merely be a current gen, WRPG version of Final Fantasy 7.

I don't mean that as a good thing.

Not at all. Fully deserving of all of its praise.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="AcidSoldner"]Fallout: New Vegas is the best Bethesda published RPG this gen and it got a 7.5 here. Just sayin'.almasdeathchild

skyrim nothing but snow and buggy as hell

fonv nothing but desert and buggy as hell

both boring too

two sides of the same coin

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] That is YOUR opinion. I hated F: NV, and even considering that it's the best Beth RPG this gen is beyond laughable.ShadowsDemon

skyrim nothing but snow and buggy as hell

fonv nothing but desert and buggy as hell

both boring too

two sides of the same coin

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

skyrim nothing but snow and buggy as hell

fonv nothing but desert and buggy as hell

both boring too

two sides of the same coin

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] And Oblivion wasn't boring and had no glitches, did it? :|ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"] it had forest abit of swamp huge body of water oh yea and snow. with unique guilds and such. if i said oblivion didnt have glitches id be lieing out my ass.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Skyrim has all that.ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]with snow on everything make it not unique,and the guilds have no rank system and the rookie becomes leader out of the blue and every infitie spawn quest is clear dungeons. or is something for a guild. the game is overrated and halfed ass.

No, well atleast not that much . . . It's not perfect but it is still a really amazing game and I think it's truly worthy of becoming game of the year . . .

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] If you say so.ShadowsDemon

No, its just todays generations damaging franchise that's all.

This game on consoles garbage while on pc no it's not garbage but is it fair on pc no, why im saysaying this is simple: because it can easily be rooted to extreme and beyond, but that also ruins game.

So while that gives console advantage being great agian, reason i say this is because people who build mods improve communty while bethesdas partly to blame for trying to hard tailoring to every ones needs especially when es mmo comes out itll be come even worse.

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But as i said consoles are designed as something that cannot be rooted unless your cheater, so let's also say you played skyrim on hardest settings killed everything comapring that to pc is like childs play when simple command function as playing on hard results in easy pass.

All im saying is those who have not played skyrim your smartest people on planet, because when all dlc mods arrive in one go, people would've had wait when it's all their for you. insane mod mode if it exists by then or what ever.

But for those who argue value skyrim, then it's your bad luck lol.

P.s i still blame bethesda studios for making pc version wonky.

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]it's true,all the work you do in the game feels easy no matter what difficulty guilds are worthless. everything you do feels unaccomplished.

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] I disagree completely. ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]wanna back up and make a good argument on why it's good?and please dont bring reviews into this. i want a legit argument from you

[QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Because the game's overall feel was what made it enjoyable. The art style, the different attitudes from each city, the lore, etc. You could just wonder around Whiterun and learn a full history about the town and it's people. Unlike in Oblivion, where all you did was go from quest to quest, Skyrim is just one of those games where you feel overwhelmed by it's beauty and glory. You glance up at the night sky from the top of a mountain and see the towns below. That's a feeling no other games has ever given me, or ever will.ShadowsDemon

[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]fair enough i guess

I think that, for the most part, it was everything it was cracked up to be. I've seldomly seen such a well-designed sandbox game.

However, I will say that I was disappointed with most of the guild questlines. The Thieves Guild questline in Skyrim in particular doesn't hold a candle to Oblivion's. I liked how Oblivion's Thieves Guild had this whole moral code, while in Skyrim they were just lowlife scum for the most part.

I love the atmosphere, exploration and combat mechanics. I can't judge the console version but the pc version to me is not overrated at all.

Yep.

Not at all.

Skyrim ( & the Elder Scrolls series in general ) are the most fullly realized, most impressive fantasy worlds ever created. The games are not perfect, they do have their fair share of bugs, but they're an amazing none the less & offer far more than any other games.

Elder Scrolls will always be one of gamings biggest achievements

brucecambell

No.

It's a fantastically designed game that the Witcher fanboys just have to constantly bash because it doesn't have a compelling narrative or characters. Thing is, it's a different type of game. For me, Skyrim is about my experience in the world, not some white haired old man obsessed with tight leather outfits.

Without a doubt it's overrated.

It's nothing but Oblivion with nicer graphics...And dragons.

Played over 200hrs in skyrim and it is overrated.

Yes, 100%. I can't comprehend how it's so praised. MirkoS77

Neither can I. It doesn't deserve a lot of the GOTYs awards at all.

No.

It's a fantastically designed game that the Witcher fanboys just have to constantly bash because it doesn't have a compelling narrative or characters. Thing is, it's a different type of game. For me, Skyrim is about my experience in the world, not some white haired old man obsessed with tight leather outfits.

OB-47

I actually get the impression that a lot of us Witcher fanboys were fans of the Elder Scrolls series long before Oblivion or Skyrim came out. Daggerfall and Morrowind were amazing, but since then each sequel has drastically reduced the options available to the players, and has felt less and less personal each time.

I mean, call me crazy, but I actually thought that my Witcher 2 playthrough more acurately reflected my experience through the world than Skyrim did.
With The Witcher 2, you chose what Geralt's motives were, you decided what sort of person he was and what he wanted in life (love? revenge? his lost memories? clearing his name? etc), and the game reacted to that accordingly - giving you different conversations, different cutscenes, different encounters, different endings...it tailored the overall experience to match whatever it was that you were after in the game.

Whereas with Skyrim...very little in that game felt personalised. It treated every race the same, every 'profession' the same, every guild the same, and just about every choice the same - the game world just didn't care who you were or what you did. A hundred different players can all play through the game normally with a hundred different characters, and each would have overwhelmingly the same experience as everyone else (with some exceptions - they'll kill things in somtimes different ways, and they'll explore the areas in different orders).

Anyway, just a thought. Back on topic, sure, Skyrim was overrated. It was fun for a while and definitely worth the money, but it's a vastly flawed game that didn't push the genre forward in any meaningful way.

Damn Gamespot, why don't you lock old threads automatically?

Nope

Truth hurts huhMrMadakey

Truth not so much. Bringing up long dead threads, oh yeah, that hurts.