Empire Magazine's 100 Greatest Video Games of All Time

It's a comprehensive list that works better, as Oilers said, if you handle it as a "Games you must play" list, in no particular order. That way, I can somehow overlook the abhorrent mistake that the list creators made putting StarCraft at 52. I counted 2 GTA, 3 MGS, 3 RE, 2 Mario, 2 Halo, 2 HL games before finding the rusty spot that these people decided one of the most memorable RTS experiences ever should be in.

May them have zerglings spawning from their behinds.

SteelAttack

lol i didn't notice that when i first read the list, but that is just another colossal blunder...i don't think it tops not including castlevania sotn, though

I'm surprised that a Contra and Castlevania game made the list but, I think they were placed too low.

No Neo-Geo games?

Lack of Fighting games.

No shoot em' ups!

Too many soccer games.

Too many sequels of the same game that basically have you doing the same crap as the original.

How can you have Super C but not have Contra III or Hardcorps?

Too many new games that have only been out for two or three years.

My summary: This list sucks!

I only looked at the top 20, but Gears of War ahead of Metal Gear Solid is lol-worthy.

Call of Duty 4 is way too high as well.

I see nothing wrong with that. dvader654

May a sunken colony find its way towards your rear end.

:P

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[QUOTE="dvader654"] I see nothing wrong with that. dvader654

May a sunken colony find its way towards your rear end.

:P

i dont like this list just because zelda OoT is behind call of duty 4. CoD4 is great but Zelda OoT did so many new things and revolutionized the action-adventure genre

Oh Empire, stick to the movies.

I both love and hate the list, while it maybe just a popularity contest, most of the top 100 isn't typical names you see all the time. Things I would change- Take GTA IV off of the list GTA 3 started the series and generated spinoffs, but "greatest GTA" would be given to San Andreas from my understanding, which should replace GTA 3 World of Warcraft should be included, but not in the top 10 Super Mario 64 topic stated "Mario Kart 64 was a disaster" which I disagree with and would replace Mario Kart on the list Lastly I was glad that Ocarina of Time and FF7 were not #1 since they are typically on the top spots ps Playstation 2 was quite popular on the list and should remain that way in 10 yearsjjtiebuckle

San Andreas was my least favorite of the GTA series (still amazing though), while GTA 4 is my personal favorite.

If a shooters online componenet was revolutionary...Counterstrike gets the nod. FFVII was not that revolutionary...the only revolution was graphics, other than that, it played just like FFVI with a much weaker story and characters. The most revolutionary FF was FFIV, because basically every FF used that system until XII (X modified it) as well as its methods of storytelling. VII was also not the first FF not in the medieval setting, FFVI was.

texasgoldrush

Well FFVII has had a history of winning numerous awards from various critics and magazines. FFIV hasn't. Why is that?

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If a shooters online componenet was revolutionary...Counterstrike gets the nod. FFVII was not that revolutionary...the only revolution was graphics, other than that, it played just like FFVI with a much weaker story and characters. The most revolutionary FF was FFIV, because basically every FF used that system until XII (X modified it) as well as its methods of storytelling. VII was also not the first FF not in the medieval setting, FFVI was.

Well FFVII has had a history of winning numerous awards from various critics and magazines. FFIV hasn't. Why is that?

FFVII wasn't even the most heraleded agme of that year, 1997, it was GoldenEye 007. And it should have been. Goldeneye revolutionized its genre, the FPS, more than FFVII did with its genre, the JRPG. This is true today. with FPS still extremely popular and JRPGs a dying breed. IV does have a legacy, but Link to The Past did win all of the awards that year....texasgoldrush

You're flying off into a tangent by making an apples to oranges comparison. Don't see where GoldenEye fits into this when that wasn't even my point at all. And even then, that didn't save the N64 from being a commercial failure, unlike with FFVII and the PSOne.

What this tells me is that you're basically implying that there's absolutely nothing with regards to FFIV's credentials that can compare with FFVII's.

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"] FFVII wasn't even the most heraleded agme of that year, 1997, it was GoldenEye 007. And it should have been. Goldeneye revolutionized its genre, the FPS, more than FFVII did with its genre, the JRPG. This is true today. with FPS still extremely popular and JRPGs a dying breed. IV does have a legacy, but Link to The Past did win all of the awards that year....BladesOfAthena

You're flying off into a tangent by making an apples to oranges comparison. Don't see where GoldenEye fits into this when that wasn't even my point at all. And even then, that didn't save the N64 from being a commercial failure, unlike with FFVII and the PSOne.

What this tells me is that you're basically implying that there's absolutely nothing with regards to FFIV's credentials that can compare with FFVII's.

Here are games that are currently on my all-time list that are excluded from Empire Magazine's.

Whether it would fit with the ones I sort of agree with on the list and where they'd exactly place iunno.

Bushido Blade 2
California Games
Capcom vs SNK Pro
City of Villains
Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix 2
Dance Dance Revolution Ultramix 3
Dark Age of Camelot
Dead or Alive 4
Def Jam: Icon
Dragon Ball Z Budokai
Dragon Ball Z Hyper Dimension
Duck Hunt
Duke Nukem 3D
EverQuest
Galactic Pinball
Game Boy Camera
Guilty Gear X2
Gunstar Heroes
Halo 2
Jet Set Radio
Killer Instinct II
Landstalker
Lord of the Rings Conquest
Lumines
Mega Man
Mortal Kombat 3
Ninja Gaiden
Pac-Man
Pokemon Red
Pokemon Snap
Quake III: Arena
Riddick Bowe Boxing GG
Shining Force II
Soldier of Fortune II: Double Helix
Solitaire
Space Giraffe
Star Fox 64
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Super Street Fighter II
Super Street Fighter Turbo Revival
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 1989
The Legend of Zelda
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Viva Pinata
Wacky Worlds Creativity Studio
WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos
WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2007
X-Men Arcade
X-Men vs Street Fighter
Yo! Noid

Gamertag-TFTW

Hahaha oh man, California Games. Hackey Sack was the best.

Super Metroid-68

behind halo, halo 3, gears of war, and left for dead

What the......?

Super Metroid-68

behind halo, halo 3, gears of war, and left for dead

What the......?

Tht1Guy7780

The N64 was far from a failure and while it wasn't as successful as the PS, it still had memorable games and sold pretty well. I compare FFVII and Golden Eye 007 because they came out the same year., 1997. texasgoldrush

Which is irrelevant since GoldenEye has absolutely nothing to do with FFVII and that they're both in 2 entirely different genres that bear no relevance to each other. The only reason why you're bringing up Goldeneye because you don't have a case to make for FFIV against FFVII. Did FFIV lure more casual gamers into the industry or singlehandedly cause a paradigm shift in the console wars like FFVII did? No.

I dunno....32 million units versus 102 million units sold seems to make the N64's numbers look woefully pathetic when compared to the PSOne's. Plus, the N64's dismal reception was what affected Nintendo to abandon utilizing cartridges for the GCN.

But it was GoldenEye winning the awards that year. How can you say FFVII is the best game ever when it wasn't the best game that year. True, IV was not as acclaimed when it was first released, its legacy and impact on the JRPG genre is noted in the gaming world, and VI is considered the pinnacle of storytelling in a JRPG. Most players who played every FF game consider either IV or VI the best ones. Plus IV was released in 1992, there weren't many video game publications and awards ceremonies then. Now we have 200+ video game publications....with many that honor the SNES FF's.

And yet, I see more action figures, fanfiction novels, wallscrolls, videogame spin-offs, character cameo appearances in other videogames, and movies for FFVII than any other FF title that came before it.

While I applaud that list for its diveristy, it is way off.

WoW at #3? Now thats just sad. All WoW has done is brought all the emo teenagers and kids of the world and thrown them together in one giant mosh-pit.

And Halo 3 in the top 10 is even sadder. Its multiplayer is okay for parties with friends but the story was one of the worst Ive ever sat through. Worst. Ending. Ever.

While I applaud that list for its diveristy, it is way off.

WoW at #3? Now thats just sad. All WoW has done is brought all the emo teenagers and kids of the world and thrown them together in one giant mosh-pit.

And Halo 3 in the top 10 is even sadder. Its multiplayer is okay for parties with friends but the story was one of the worst Ive ever sat through. Worst. Ending. Ever.

svaubel

Halo 3 was in the top 10 anyways? is that a joke? Halo 3 isn't in the top 10.......Nor should it be by a mile