FF13 seems so CHILDISH, embarrassing to play

FF7, 8 and 9 were life changing games, brilliant, loved them.

Now that that's out of the way...

Looking at a few walkthroughs on youtube, FF13 seems so utterly juvenile, maybe to the point of total idiocy. Okay it's in Japanese, but the way they look, the excessive emo emotions in the cutscenes.... this 30 yrld guy can't take it.

What is this horrible trend in j-rpgs.....is there something wrong with a mature story aimed at adults and characters that look the part (ie not adrogenous little boys or pixie-like girls)? It's much, much worse than in FF12. Earlier FF's felt like they were made for adults story wise, gameplay wise... but this.

nostalgia vs. obsolete.

This reminds me of one episode of Jon Stewart, in which John Oliver is talking about some news organization wants American to return to the "good old days". But they never seem to find that good old days feeling again. People wonder why. The reason is, that good old days left a long time ago along with your childhood. That whimsical feeling is a period piece, something can be relished but never recaptured. But that really has nothing to do whether what we have at hand is good or bad, so comparing that distance feeling to what is now is pretty... unremarkable.

FF7, 8 and 9 were life changing games, brilliant, loved them.

Now that that's out of the way...

Looking at a few walkthroughs on youtube, FF13 seems so utterly juvenile, maybe to the point of total idiocy. Okay it's in Japanese, but the way they look, the excessive emo emotions in the cutscenes.... this 30 yrld guy can't take it.

What is this horrible trend in j-rpgs.....is there something wrong with a mature story aimed at adults and characters that look the part (ie not adrogenous little boys or pixie-like girls)? It's much, much worse than in FF12. Earlier FF's felt like they were made for adults story wise, gameplay wise... but this.

BoredGames

Maybe you're just growing up, nostalgia ain't what it used to be. Still, the cut scenes I have seen made me cringe as well, cheesy as hell!!

FF7, 8 and 9 were life changing games, brilliant, loved them.

Now that that's out of the way...

Looking at a few walkthroughs on youtube, FF13 seems so utterly juvenile, maybe to the point of total idiocy. Okay it's in Japanese, but the way they look, the excessive emo emotions in the cutscenes.... this 30 yrld guy can't take it.

What is this horrible trend in j-rpgs.....is there something wrong with a mature story aimed at adults and characters that look the part (ie not adrogenous little boys or pixie-like girls)? It's much, much worse than in FF12. Earlier FF's felt like they were made for adults story wise, gameplay wise... but this.

BoredGames

what are you going on about?? ff12 didn't have a childish story or anything and u havent played ff13 ur basing it off of japanese youtube videos...

FFX was a great game too how could u think that was childish. all jrpgs are aimed at people who just love anime and stories like that imo..

and btw Squall was way more emo than other FF character I have seen soooo ya. second to that would be Tidus, but it's what tries to get you into the story. if FF8 had modern cutscenes it would be like FF13 cuz they would want you to feel how the character is feeling, back then was just text but not with facial emotions and talking they changed it up.

final fantasy 13 will be a great game dude, if ur getting second thoughts about it. then maybe your time for jrpgs is done :(

All that stuff is in 7, it just wasn't presented as well. Go play Final Fantasy 7 now and tell me with a straight face that it was all fantastic and you really loved the anime-style storytelling.

Childish? I don't think so. All Final Fantasy stories have their own way and very exciting. I believe you must try the game before judging it.

i dont watch ff13 vids i just play it 1 day maybe victim of own success there are still great games and bad psychologists

final fantasy 10 was really good i finnished it recently, its great finnishing game you started long time ago brill game only thing bad voice over for main chartor american accent ew . dont watch trailers to b4 playin great games

Like others have said, it's probably the audience that the FF games cater to. If you want more mature stories, you have to look elsewhere. Don't expect FF to change its tune.

It doesn't seem childish or embarassing to play to me but to each their own I guess.

I'd say the presentation of FFXIII was a little more juvenile than say, VIII. But it wasn't any more Juvenile than VI, VII, or IX. The sillyness is easy to ignore when you have 2D graphics like VII or super deformed like VII or IX. But when you have juvenile elements in full HD all the time then they're more obvious.

Keep in mind that JRPGs are first and foremost made for the Japanese market. That should answer every question on why JRPGs are the way they are. It's a anime-infested culture, which is why almost every JRPG is basically a playable anime. I say almost because of games like Demons Souls, which we don't see often. If only more Japanese developers were willing to make something different like From Software did with Demons Souls. ASK_Story

This.

Time goes on, things change. Final Fantasy is a HUGE franchise with an equally huge fan base. But as time went on, trends and views of what is 'good' in Japan (and everywhere else) has changed.

But to dismiss the entire game as juvenile is rather ignorant, if you ask me.

all the FF games are childlish , yes i went there .gubrushadow

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]all the FF games are childlish , yes i went there .MadVybz

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

Oh god, don't summon him!

have you ever played a final fantasy game that was rated M? Just because it doesn't have a ton of gore, and sex doesn't mean it isn't good. Final Fantasy games traditionally have some of the best stories and cinematics of all time

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]all the FF games are childlish , yes i went there .hakanakumono

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

Oh god, don't summon him!

:lol:

I've forgotten about your confrontations with him....They never really get anywhere, do they? :P

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh god, don't summon him!

hakanakumono

:lol:

I've forgotten about your confrontations with him....They never really get anywhere, do they? :P

Well, they're going to end now. I made a new years resolution not to argue with mentally handicapped people.

Ouch. :|

Oh wells. Might as well not talk to a brick wall, eh?

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

:lol:

I've forgotten about your confrontations with him....They never really get anywhere, do they? :P

MadVybz

Well, they're going to end now. I made a new years resolution not to argue with mentally handicapped people.

Ouch. :|

Oh wells. Might as well not talk to a brick wall, eh?

It's pointless to try.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Well, they're going to end now. I made a new years resolution not to argue with mentally handicapped people.

hakanakumono

Ouch. :|

Oh wells. Might as well not talk to a brick wall, eh?

It's pointless to try.

A normal brick wall? Sure.

My brick walls in my back yard? Quite the contrary. They don't know when to be shut up.

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh god, don't summon him!

hakanakumono

:lol:

I've forgotten about your confrontations with him....They never really get anywhere, do they? :P

Well, they're going to end now. I made a new years resolution not to argue with mentally handicapped people.

No offense, but you have a fictional character riding a cartoon bird called a chocobo, pretty sure that eliminates you from calling anything childish.

In reference to the conversation I am going to leave my judgement for until after I play the game. I have no issues with a story geared more towards younger audiences as long as the basic gameplay is fun and involving and the story is well written. Other than that it could be Final Fantasy 13: Barbie's Chocobo Adventures or Final Fantasy 13: Power Rangers Beat Up Stuff

I never really mind that angstyness in FF or JRPG's at all. Maybe because it helps me reflect on my own, lack of self confidence or low self esteem. I personally can't stand it, if the hero of any RPG just BA from start to finish, seems well unrealistic. These heros have unrealistic setting placed upon them, I would expect some sort of self doubt or grievence over past mistakes. But I suppose thats just me.

Final Fantasy lost It's way after FFX, I played FF XII and that was god aweful, so I have no hope in this game.

I don't watch youtube vids of games prior to playing them, especially not a game I would hope has a good story. I think you worded your topic poorly though, Im 30 this year but that doesn't stop me from playing Mario games because I would be an idiot to not enjoy something solely on the grounds that somebody else might judge me for doing so.

FF7, 8 and 9 were life changing games, brilliant, loved them.

BoredGames

Life-changing games.

Really?

Yes, people that die if they don't follow a tyrant government's orders is childish (sarcastic, btw).

This game, to me, seems far more mature than many other FF games I've seen. Wait till you play the game before coming with such an impression.

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]all the FF games are childlish , yes i went there .MadVybz

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

That's not funny! Seriously, don't ever mention that again! :P

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]all the FF games are childlish , yes i went there .calvinsora

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

That's not funny! Seriously, don't ever mention that again! :P

I only brought him up because he's perfectly capable of creating pages upon pages of text to disprove such a silly statement. :P

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

MadVybz

That's not funny! Seriously, don't ever mention that again! :P

I only brought him up because he's perfectly capable of creating pages upon pages of text to disprove such a silly statement. :P

Yup, that's true. But I have this ominous feeling that if his name be spoken, he will appear...

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

Where's texasgoldrush when you need him....

MadVybz

That's not funny! Seriously, don't ever mention that again! :P

I only brought him up because he's perfectly capable of creating pages upon pages of text to disprove such a silly statement. :P

He'd probably come in and post a bunch of misinterpretations of FFVI and end up referencing the games' more childish elements in the process ... ._.;

They are playing to a different crowd. The original fan base of JRPGs may not love it but people who like teen angst. Its also in an effort to attract more girls to the series.Diablo-B

[QUOTE="MadVybz"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

That's not funny! Seriously, don't ever mention that again! :P

hakanakumono

I only brought him up because he's perfectly capable of creating pages upon pages of text to disprove such a silly statement. :P

He'd probably come in and post a bunch of misinterpretations of FFVI and end up referencing the games' more childish elements in the process ... ._.;

Come to think of it, I remember exactly how your arguments went now.

Jeez...Those were annoying for me to read.

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"]They are playing to a different crowd. The original fan base of JRPGs may not love it but people who like teen angst. Its also in an effort to attract more girls to the series.wizdom

Consumers never know what they want, come to think of it.

FF7, 8 and 9 were life changing games, brilliant, loved them.

Now that that's out of the way...

Looking at a few walkthroughs on youtube, FF13 seems so utterly juvenile, maybe to the point of total idiocy. Okay it's in Japanese, but the way they look, the excessive emo emotions in the cutscenes.... this 30 yrld guy can't take it.

What is this horrible trend in j-rpgs.....is there something wrong with a mature story aimed at adults and characters that look the part (ie not adrogenous little boys or pixie-like girls)? It's much, much worse than in FF12. Earlier FF's felt like they were made for adults story wise, gameplay wise... but this.

BoredGames

I see it the other way around. The games that are made to look "adult" are often far more childish. Part of the reason they use the, as you call, "childish" look is to slip in themes that would normally hit the rating. A game with "adult" like characters is going to go through more scrutinizing by the folks rating the games. Personally I prefer the more artistic look, as there tends to be more meat to the story, which sometimes gets missed by people--sadly.