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Star Fox 64; best Star Fox game ever made.
F-Zero X is a good game too though, but not quite as good as SF64.
Forgotten by whom?
The people who never looked past Mario 64, Ocarina and GoldenEye?
Both franchises still have a big following, despite them missing out a generation.
I would be surprised if there was no new SF on the Wii U, they just should not outsource it to incompetent 3rd party devs like Namco again.
F-Zero is a bit more delicate but the fan demand is there.
At worst they could re-release GX in HD graphics and some extra features (same with Wind Waker as Wii U won't support GC games).
You see to be heavily misinformed by saying Star Fox and F-Zero have large fanbases. When they don't and that's why Nintendo released Starfox 64 3D and used it to see if Star Fox was still relevant because it wasn't. I heard it has near average sales not sure if that means anything. Also I don't see how you figure a re-release of F-Zero GX would even work in terms of sales and profit. Also @nismology, sorry but you are really? I have no idea why you suddenly have to throw an insult in there but really? No, it's not a stupid thread, these are two of the lowest ranked Nintendo franchises and both are most of the time remembered by many for only 1 game. Starfox 64, and occasionally you will here about original Starfox especially in SNES graphics, but not much else. F-Zero on the SNES. Period. GX is not that well known and brawl helped it out a bit, while X is often not even mentioned. Why would Nintendo re-release Starfox 64 on DS to see if they will let go of the series or put it in a long hiatus until they figure out a way to bring it back? Why would they do that if the thread was stupid? Here you go (from 2012): http://starfox-online.net/page/index.html/_/star-fox-news/miyamoto-wants-star-fox-on-wiiu-r90Forgotten by whom?
The people who never looked past Mario 64, Ocarina and GoldenEye?
Both franchises still have a big following, despite them missing out a generation.
I would be surprised if there was no new SF on the Wii U, they just should not outsource it to incompetent 3rd party devs like Namco again.
F-Zero is a bit more delicate but the fan demand is there.
At worst they could re-release GX in HD graphics and some extra features (same with Wind Waker as Wii U won't support GC games).
nameless12345
And(Star Fox 64 3D): http://www.epforums.org/showthread.php?66402-If-Star-Fox-64-3D-doesn-t-sell-well-it-is-the-end-of-the-series-Miyamotohttp://www.nintendofanforum.com/showthread.php?t=8844In a conversation with an IGN writer, focused on Metroid, Shigeru Miyamoto stated that his personal favorite choice for a franchise to appear on WiiU is Star Fox! He didn't go into detail, but it is a promising sign that Star Fox is still on the minds of people in power. Take this with some salt, though. Miyamoto has stated in the past that he wanted Star Fox on Wii, and that never materialized.
Now before you go in the direction of Lol it's not serious, because I know some of those people are on here, let's look at what we have- 1.Where was Star Fox before StarFox 3d in 2011, not anywhere really. 2.After? no where. 3.Miyamoto talked about Starfox on the Wii. Didn't happen. 4.Starfox 64 3D is the same game in 3D with nothing new and no online. 5.Star Fox Adventure sold average eventually after slow sales, but was mixed with critics and gamers usually leaning on the more negative side. 6.Star Fox Assault did not sell to expectations. Had similar critic standings as Adventures, although the fans at the time seemed to hate it more than Adventures until later, although both are highly mixed games for critics, SFFans, and Nintendo fans. 7.Does not have a very big community despite what some people say. 8. Star Fox Command is barely known as it is. 9. Miyamoto does what he did with the Wii. Wants Starfox on Wii U, yet no teams are working on Starfox, there was a link posted about SF development was happening on Wii u, but that link is long gone and has vanished, and we still here nothing but he wants it. 10.One of the lowest selling and inconsistent quality (with fans) Nintendo Franchise. Starfox has not brainwashed fans into buying each installment regardless of quality. That being said I think Starfox is a good series.Miyamoto: Star Fox will be reborn if people buy 3DS remake. The future of series depends on success of Star Fox 64 3D
I'm feel like Star Fox 64 is brought up a lot more than F-Zero X. The fact that Star Fox has the "do a barrell role" meme behind it helps that a lot too.
Which came from Calvin and Hobbes, which is were most of the memes came from. Again, for the 5th time.I'm feel like Star Fox 64 is brought up a lot more than F-Zero X. The fact that Star Fox has the "do a barrell role" meme behind it helps that a lot too.
nintendofreak_2
Edit: You weren't here for those threads nevermind.
If it really means that much to you, then fine. You win the debate, though I still fail to see how you can call two of the most well known games on the N64 'forgotten'. If you were referring to games like Mischief Makers or Blast Corps that are aften hailed as 'hidden gems', then I'd say fair enough, but taking two games that are on many people's 'must own' N64 games lists, and calling them 'forgotten'... leads me to conclude that this is a nonsensical thread. I just don't understand your way of thinking, and judging by the responses of other people who've posted here, I'm guessing they don't either.NismologyThe series are forgotten except for 1 game each. F-zero has sold barely 10 million in its life time at last read. Not even sure about Star Fox series, it may have sold more most likely. I am talking about the franchises as a whole.
F-Zero X is the best F-Zero game ever, the 4 player split-screen mode made that game one of the best racers on the N64
I didn't know that, but the fact that enough people think that meme originated from SF64 pretty much proves my point anyway.Which came from Calvin and Hobbes, which is were most of the memes came from. Again, for the 5th time.
Edit: You weren't here for those threads nevermind.
StatusShuffle
F-Zero X was definitely not well known, but I don't think Star Fox 64 was ever forgotten, it's usually considered one of the top 10 best N64 games on most lists. Loved them both though. I don't own F-Zero X, but it's towards the top of my most wanted N64 games.
I didn't play F-Zero X until after I played GX and it wasn't anywhere as good as GX, so that definitely affected my opinion of the game. I'd definitely have to go with Star Fox 64, one of my favorites in the series.
F Zero was one of my fave games on the n64 for the 4 way multiplayer action, we had some absolutely epic battles on it and we still talk about them to this day. The random track generator levelled the field for everyone so no one had any unfair advantage and it came down to skill (most of the time:lol:).
I cant see us talking about GT5 or Forza multiplayer races the same way in years to come, its just not the same playing online opponents, half the fun is having a crowd of your best friends all huddled around you playing along.
I am almost certain that all the entries of both Star Fox and F-Zero franchises became Player's Choice titles at some point, so I do not know where people are getting that the sales are low.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Selects#Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System
It seems that the original Star Fox did not make the cut. Either way, These two franchises sold enough in the past to become Player's Choice titles multiple times, so people's arguments about sales are dumb. These two franchise might not sell like Mario or Zelda, but they sell plenty.
Fzero was hyped upon release. It has been forgotten though, for sure. It's actually the best racer from that gen, IMO.F-Zero X was definitely not well known, but I don't think Star Fox 64 was ever forgotten, it's usually considered one of the top 10 best N64 games on most lists. Loved them both though. I don't own F-Zero X, but it's towards the top of my most wanted N64 games.
Shenmue_Jehuty
[QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]Fzero was hyped upon release. It has been forgotten though, for sure. It's actually the best racer from that gen, IMO.F-Zero X was definitely not well known, but I don't think Star Fox 64 was ever forgotten, it's usually considered one of the top 10 best N64 games on most lists. Loved them both though. I don't own F-Zero X, but it's towards the top of my most wanted N64 games.
Heirren
Forgotten by those who never bothered checking out Ninty's games beyond Mario, Zelda, Smash, Mario Kart and Pokemon...
Fzero was hyped upon release. It has been forgotten though, for sure. It's actually the best racer from that gen, IMO.[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="Shenmue_Jehuty"]
F-Zero X was definitely not well known, but I don't think Star Fox 64 was ever forgotten, it's usually considered one of the top 10 best N64 games on most lists. Loved them both though. I don't own F-Zero X, but it's towards the top of my most wanted N64 games.
nameless12345
Forgotten by those who never bothered checking out Ninty's games beyond Mario, Zelda, Smash, Mario Kart and Pokemon...
I don't understand your point.So? Megaman legends got a greatest hits label, and nobody remembers that.I am almost certain that all the entries of both Star Fox and F-Zero franchises became Player's Choice titles at some point, so I do not know where people are getting that the sales are low.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Selects#Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System
It seems that the original Star Fox did not make the cut. Either way, These two franchises sold enough in the past to become Player's Choice titles multiple times, so people's arguments about sales are dumb. These two franchise might not sell like Mario or Zelda, but they sell plenty.
gamenerd15
[QUOTE="nameless12345"][QUOTE="Heirren"] Fzero was hyped upon release. It has been forgotten though, for sure. It's actually the best racer from that gen, IMO.Heirren
Forgotten by those who never bothered checking out Ninty's games beyond Mario, Zelda, Smash, Mario Kart and Pokemon...
I don't understand your point.I ment that the only people who don't know F-Zero are those who are either too young and/or never checked out Nintendo games beyond those I mentioned in my previous post.
Star Fox 64 got a 3DS re-release. Back in 1997 Star Fox 64 rocked a Nintendo 64 classic. But the Star Fox series hasn't received a new installments since Star Fox Assault on the Gamecube. F-zero X is another series that hasn't really Nintendo hasn't featured recently either. Both Star Fox and F-zero have skipped the 7th generation. The Wii not really suited to these series.
But on N64 they rocked.
So? Megaman legends got a greatest hits label, and nobody remembers that.[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]
I am almost certain that all the entries of both Star Fox and F-Zero franchises became Player's Choice titles at some point, so I do not know where people are getting that the sales are low.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Selects#Super_Nintendo_Entertainment_System
It seems that the original Star Fox did not make the cut. Either way, These two franchises sold enough in the past to become Player's Choice titles multiple times, so people's arguments about sales are dumb. These two franchise might not sell like Mario or Zelda, but they sell plenty.
ultramega9
Others were saying that F-Zero had low sales and that GX bombed. Your comparison between F-Zero and Mega Man Legends is not accurate. F-Zero became a millionth seller time and time again. Mega Man Legends is not known because Capcom did not do anything with the franchise beyond the second game. Nintendo also promoted F-Zero a good bit when each game came out. No one knows if F-Zero is forgotten because there has not been a game in the franchise for a long time. The same could be said for F-Zero, but since every console entry has sold over a million units in the past, then there should be enough reason to make another game in the series. You are also comparing two different companies. Sony's Greatest Hits label does not really mean anything. Mod Nation Racers had a Greatest Hits release. That game obviously did not sell that well because the company is trying its hand at Kart Racing with Little Big Planet.
I don't understand your point.[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="nameless12345"]
Forgotten by those who never bothered checking out Ninty's games beyond Mario, Zelda, Smash, Mario Kart and Pokemon...
nameless12345
I ment that the only people who don't know F-Zero are those who are either too young and/or never checked out Nintendo games beyond those I mentioned in my previous post.
That's the thing though, Fzero WAS one of those Nintendo games. FzeroX was a huge N64 release, was of the upmost quality, and also well received by fans and critics. It fits the thread title perfectly. I very rarely see it listed as a "best" 64 game, or best from the given gen, when it really is one of the best. It puts Wipeout to shame.Please Log In to post.
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