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#1 demondogx
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www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/22/former-ceo-of-electronic-arts-gamers-will-learn-to-love-always-online-gaming/

Really, why is this guy not working at microsoft jet ? they seem a perfect fit.

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#2 MonoSilver
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As much as we love the plague.
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#3 ReddestSkies
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Restrictions are fun. People usually love restrictions, why are gamers so different?! :roll:

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#4 keech
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Hah yeah no, gamers love seamlessly integrated online features in their games.  Dark Souls and Demon's Souls multiplayer aspects are a perfect example of this.  However if I was forced to be online to be able to play either of these games at all, they would be getting nothing but hate.

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#5 Black_Knight_00
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isn't that what a coocoo rapist kidnapper would say? "In time you'll learn to love me: I'll make you love me"
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#6 Minishdriveby
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The gaming industry is in an extremely sad state.
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#7 Gemini_Red
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Yeah....I could learn to love having sex with a cheese grater too, doesn't mean I'm in any rush to try it.

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#8 Black_Knight_00
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The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm Syndrome
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#9 keech
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The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry from that, because It's so true.

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He obviously learned nothing from the Sim City launch.
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#11 Legolas_Katarn
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We all loved Sim City and Diablo.

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#12 ThaneKrios28
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lol this idiot thinks always online gaming is good? i hope he realizes not everyone in the world has an internet connection.............

 

no wonder he is called former ceo

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Mother-in-laws are good people. Fatal illness helps you get in touch with your maker. World Wars pull people together.

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#14 speedfreak48t5p
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and I've visited many SNIPER threads.

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Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

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Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

alexwatchtower

Steam is on an open platform of hardware that they don't own and anyone can utilize however they see fit.  Where a console is fully owned by a single entity, who can be entirely arbitrary in their decisions and restrictions.  Leaving the people who bought the hardware with no recourse other than to spend several hundreds of dollars on a new piece of hardware.

 

Steam is also very "user-centric" in it's business model.  Often acting as a buffer between the user and keeping publishers and developers from stepping over the line.

 

If you can't see the huge difference between the two then anything I would say further would fall on deaf ears.

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#17 RandoIphF
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The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00
That is the first goddamn thing that came to mind when I saw the thread title.
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#18 Krelian-co
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As much as we love the plague.MonoSilver

to be fair xbots love to pay for playing online when its free everywhere and they even defend it so i wouldn't be suprised if they come defending this if big daddy MS implements an always on drm.

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isn't that what a coocoo rapist kidnapper would say? "In time you'll learn to love me: I'll make you love me"Black_Knight_00
Maybe EA and others are banking on gamers developing Sto...
The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00
Goddammit, you had to beat me to it. :(
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Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

alexwatchtower
thats funny neither you or the guy from forbes know what i think and what i invest my money into. you or forbes dont speak for me
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#21 ThaneKrios28
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[QUOTE="MonoSilver"]As much as we love the plague.Krelian-co

to be fair xbots love to pay for playing online when its free everywhere and they even defend it so i wouldn't be suprised if they come defending this if big daddy MS implements an always on drm.

actually as a 360 owner i rarley play online. i only have xbl simply for dlc thats it also not every xbox fan is happy with the way this new system came out
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Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

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Your posts are becomingly increasingly creepy and disturbing.
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#23 ThaneKrios28
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[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

RandoIphF
Your posts are becomingly increasingly creepy and disturbing.

careful now he may report you for trolling like he did to me twice yesterday
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#24 RandoIphF
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[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][ careful now he may report you for trolling like he did to me twice yesterday

I'm way past the point of caring about that kind of thing. ;)
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[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

ThaneKrios28

thats funny neither you or the guy from forbes know what i think and what i invest my money into. you or forbes dont speak for me

 

What i think it's funny is that you think videogames are an investment.

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[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

alexwatchtower

thats funny neither you or the guy from forbes know what i think and what i invest my money into. you or forbes dont speak for me

 

What i think it's funny is that you think videogames are an investment.

id make a comment but you would probably run and cry again like you did yesterday. dont start spewing crap if you cant take the hits junior
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#27 Ilovegames1992
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The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00

Jokes aside, it'll happen.

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[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"][QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

Hardcore gamers: "These gaming companies are so stupid because they don't listen to us and don't give us what we want, even though we don't mean much in the grand scheme of things anymore and most of us will buy it anyway. Those idiots...we'll show them...one day. When I quit gaming. They'll see...but first I wanna check out this new E3 coming up. Yah baby!!!"

He's right. You will. Because what he means by that is you have no choice and when it's said all and done because everyone will have it. And just like Steam fans sell it to everyone else, you will eventually be selling this yourself for them. You'll take it. We'll all take it. We have been taking it for years now. They know you better than you know yourselves. They got old watching you grow up and learning more about you than maybe even your own parents. So just go ahead and give them your money.

You know you will anyway...

alexwatchtower

thats funny neither you or the guy from forbes know what i think and what i invest my money into. you or forbes dont speak for me

 

What i think it's funny is that you think videogames are an investment.

You spend your own money to purchase and play games, which has an effect (no matter how small) on what games and policies happen in the future. How is that not an investment?
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#29 ThaneKrios28
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[QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

[QUOTE="ThaneKrios28"] thats funny neither you or the guy from forbes know what i think and what i invest my money into. you or forbes dont speak for me1PMrFister

 

What i think it's funny is that you think videogames are an investment.

You spend your own money to purchase and play games, which has an effect (no matter how small) on what games and policies happen in the future. How is that not an investment?

dudes just trolling and be careful when replying because he will report you got 2 warnings yesterday thanks to that guy.
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#30 alexwatchtower
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 You spend your own money to purchase and play games, which has an effect (no matter how small) on what games and policies happen in the future. How is that not an investment?1PMrFister

I see stocks as an investment. Not videogames. If you consider it, it would be a bad one since they constantly devalue.  It's a product. It's something we consume.

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#31 alexwatchtower
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[QUOTE="1PMrFister"][QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

 

What i think it's funny is that you think videogames are an investment.

ThaneKrios28

You spend your own money to purchase and play games, which has an effect (no matter how small) on what games and policies happen in the future. How is that not an investment?

dudes just trolling and be careful when replying because he will report you got 2 warnings yesterday thanks to that guy.

What? I never reported anybody. Please stop making things up.

As a matter of fact if you're going to accuse someone of something like that, you should provide some proof. False accusations suck.

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#32 branketra
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There is a reason why the former chief executive officer of Electronic Arts no longer works at Electronic Arts. One may speculate the cause and be sure to rememberhis comment about digital rights management.
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There is a reason why the former chief executive officer of Electronic Arts no longer works at Electronic Arts. One may speculate the cause and be sure to rememberhis comment about digital rights management.BranKetra

Yea, i first tought he was gone because of bad sales from certain franchises
But im starting to think this guys hate for consumers is even to extreme for EA.

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isn't that what a coocoo rapist kidnapper would say? "In time you'll learn to love me: I'll make you love me"Black_Knight_00

They're just pushing for our Stockholm Syn...

The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00

God damn it.

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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]isn't that what a coocoo rapist kidnapper would say? "In time you'll learn to love me: I'll make you love me"IndianaPwns39

They're just pushing for our Stockholm Syn...

The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00

God damn it.

Better luck next time
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#36 MirkoS77
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We all loved Sim City and Diablo.

Legolas_Katarn

Many people came out of the woodwork and defended those games to the death, labelling those who complained as entitled and whiney.  I have no doubt many of those morons will support what any company throws their way to trample their rights and treat them like sh!t will bend over and ask for more.  Simcity and DIII have taught me that there is no lack of pushovers and dipsh!ts everywhere, and this is why we're losing our rights left and right.

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#37 1PMrFister
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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]

They're just pushing for our Stockholm Syn...

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]The next frontier in gaming marketing: the Stockholm SyndromeBlack_Knight_00

God damn it.

Better luck next time

Even I beat him to that same post on the end of the first page. Strange minds think alike?
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As much as we love the plague.MonoSilver
exactly my thoughts
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#39 jsmoke03
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maybe the younger generation that don't know any better. the rest of us wont.

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#40 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="1PMrFister"][QUOTE="alexwatchtower"]

 

What i think it's funny is that you think videogames are an investment.

ThaneKrios28
You spend your own money to purchase and play games, which has an effect (no matter how small) on what games and policies happen in the future. How is that not an investment?

dudes just trolling and be careful when replying because he will report you got 2 warnings yesterday thanks to that guy.

Since when do reports matter, and why target him? Reports just say "hey mods, please look at this" and the mods decide what to do. Which is why you don't ever get to see who reported you (IF you were actually reported, that is), because it's irrelevant to everything. Anyways, when I read the original Kotaku article, I didn't take away what PC Gamer seemed to get out of it at all. I think there's a reason the fella's out of a job, certainly, but his main point is that these kinds of experiences should be managed less like walled gardens and provide more benefits to the customer for being the way they are. The problem, which I don't think he understands, is that not every game is improved by being that way, gamers don't want every game to be like that, and you kill the game's longevity if it can't be played if the servers go down. Personally, I want each game I own to be something that my future children could potentially play, even if they're just limited to a relatively simple offline mode. It's one of the many reasons why I stay away from paying money for an MMO of any sort, let alone get emotionally invested in one.
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#41 GustaveIV
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The only thing one can do is just not buy the console. Albeit the fact that it WILL sell just because it is a NEW console----i still think Microsoft has made a huge mistake and they are going to take a huge hit.
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Even I beat him to that same post on the end of the first page. Strange minds think alike?1PMrFister
Now that's a scary though lol
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#43 Justforvisit
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The gaming industry is in an extremely sad state.Minishdriveby


Nah, just Ricitello is ;)

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#44 Minishdriveby
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[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]The gaming industry is in an extremely sad state.Justforvisit



Nah, just Ricitello is ;)

Every day I hear more disheartening new from some corporate branch of this industry, be it Nintendo, Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Sony, etc. They'll all f*ck you over at some point, and they'll do it behind smiling PR drivel telling you they're your friend.
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#45 Black_Knight_00
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[QUOTE="Justforvisit"]

[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]The gaming industry is in an extremely sad state.Minishdriveby



Nah, just Ricitello is ;)

Every day I hear more disheartening new from some corporate branch of this industry, be it Nintendo, Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Sony, etc. They'll all f*ck you over at some point, and they'll do it behind smiling PR drivel telling you they're your friend.

There's always retrogaming
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#46 demondogx
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[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"]The gaming industry is in an extremely sad state.Justforvisit



Nah, just Ricitello is ;)

i wish that was the truth, but open youre eyes, see how mutch bullshit comes around just trying to buy a game now a days, so many thing trying to make you pay more and more and more, and if M$ is gonna go full ahead with their plans, even witht he backlash its only gonna get worse.
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#47 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

God damn it.

1PMrFister

Better luck next time

Even I beat him to that same post on the end of the first page. Strange minds think alike?

We even had the same choice of curse words :P

I'm not gonna lie, I didn't read the rest of the thread. I normally do, but I was pissed he acknowledged the same joke I wanted to make immediately.

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#48 Jackc8
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If somebody with his ideas was put in charge of a video game publishing company, he'd run it into the ground and have to resign in disgrace.

Oh wait...

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#49 shellcase86
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Makes sense why EA had such a lrage presence at One's reveal. It is what it is.

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#50 Minishdriveby
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[QUOTE="Minishdriveby"][QUOTE="Justforvisit"]

Nah, just Ricitello is ;)Black_Knight_00
Every day I hear more disheartening new from some corporate branch of this industry, be it Nintendo, Microsoft, Ubisoft, EA, Activision, Sony, etc. They'll all f*ck you over at some point, and they'll do it behind smiling PR drivel telling you they're your friend.

There's always retrogaming

Which I've been strongly thinking about doing instead of going forward. We'll see what E3 brings as of right now Nintendo is still in my good favor. Sony may be depending on how their console works.