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#101 Bigboi500
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Mario Galaxy 2. A fricking testament to good game design.Shinobishyguy
Easily.

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#102 Grammaton-Cleric
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Mario Galaxy 2. A fricking testament to good game design.Bigboi500

Easily.

As great as this franchise is, I would have a difficult time placing either game at the top of the list given how safe they were from a design standpoint.

We've seen some amazing innovation this generation and it wasn't from the Mario games.

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#103 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]Mario Galaxy 2. A fricking testament to good game design.Grammaton-Cleric

Easily.

As great as this franchise is, I would have a difficult time placing either game at the top of the list given how safe they were from a design standpoint.

We've seen some amazing innovation this generation and it wasn't from the Mario games.

Sometimes playing it safe and refining/honing a formula to near perfection is the way to go. In the 3D platform genre, you'd be hard pressed to find a better game this generation imo.

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#104 Grammaton-Cleric
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[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Easily.

Bigboi500

As great as this franchise is, I would have a difficult time placing either game at the top of the list given how safe they were from a design standpoint.

We've seen some amazing innovation this generation and it wasn't from the Mario games.

Sometimes playing it safe and refining/honing a formula to near perfection is the way to go. In the 3D platform genre, you'd be hard pressed to find a better game this generation imo.

Evolutionary refinement is certainly important as it often facilitates some of the best software.

I'll also concede that both Galaxy titles are practically peerless in their genre.

However, from a more objective and academic perspective, I would be remiss to place such software, however polished and exceptional, at the very top of this generation's software rankings because doing so marginalizes and negates the massive innovative strides made by so many other studios that didn't play it safe and rather opted to push this medium forward by expanding beyond established matrices and paradigms.

Then again, I would actually argue it is impossible to distill this generation into a single game, regardless of the quality of said game.

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#105 dbz987
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Skyward Sword and Arkam City

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#106 Justin_G
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I'd go with Portal 2. Short but oh so fun. Unfortunately I'm a huge RPG fan and I wouldn't consider any RPGs from this console cycle great.NeverMore0
though, they are.

nostalgia.

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#107 The-Gamer
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Metal Gear Solid 4.

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#108 roguebot
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Portal 2, Red Dead Redemption, and Arkham City. Arkham City's only letdown was how poorly designed many of the non-Batman predator challenges were.

I've spent more hours on Skyrim than any other game, but it doesn't stand out like the above 3.

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#109 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Metal Gear Solid 4 is under appreciated by this board.
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#110 GamerZem
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Red Dead Redemption, Halo 4, and Borderlands are all great games. Crysis 2 is also a very underrated game.
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#111 Ricardomz
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God of War 3

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#112 darkmoney52
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Best is too damn hard to decide, but my favorite was certainly Fallout New Vegas.

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#113 RageQuitter69
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Metal Gear Solid 4 is under appreciated by this board. Heirren
I know bullsh!t when I hear it, i'm the only one who see's Metal Gear Solid 4 for what it is.

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#114 whiskeystrike
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Still GTAIV for me.

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#115 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Metal Gear Solid 4 is under appreciated by this board. RageQuitter69

I know bullsh!t when I hear it, i'm the only one who see's Metal Gear Solid 4 for what it is.

And what is that?
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#116 RageQuitter69
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[QUOTE="RageQuitter69"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]Metal Gear Solid 4 is under appreciated by this board. Heirren

I know bullsh!t when I hear it, i'm the only one who see's Metal Gear Solid 4 for what it is.

And what is that?

Everyone see's it as a revolutionary masterpiece, I see it as a 4 hour long game with long repetitive cutscenes with terrible value for money that is bad for the gaming industry.
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#117 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="RageQuitter69"] I know bullsh!t when I hear it, i'm the only one who see's Metal Gear Solid 4 for what it is.RageQuitter69
And what is that?

Everyone see's it as a revolutionary masterpiece, I see it as a 4 hour long game with long repetitive cutscenes with terrible value for money that is bad for the gaming industry.

I just finished for the first time. It's absolutely brilliant outside some tedious dialog here and there. The Story, visuals, sound, music, art direction, and gameplay are all top notch. Also, from my time on this board I've noticed a lot of negativity around the game. There's also a LOT of gameplay. The playable movie this is bllsht.
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Also, from my time on this board I've noticed a lot of negativity around the game.Heirren

Strange, because we've got quite the chorus of die-hard Metal gear fans who would talk at length about why they think Metal Gear Solid 4 is amazing.

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#119 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]Also, from my time on this board I've noticed a lot of negativity around the game.c_rake

Strange, because we've got quite the chorus of die-hard Metal gear fans who would talk at length about why they think Metal Gear Solid 4 is amazing.

It is amazing. One of the few games this gen that blew me away. ...there's a lot of negativity towards the game, on this board.
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#120 deactivated-58f628213c2cb
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Uncharted 2 is definitely one of the most memorable games I've played this gen and I doubt ND will ever top it. With so many categories of games, there can never be just one 'game of the gen'. Plus with games like Watch Dogs, GTAV and Beyond Two Souls on the way, you never know. For me, it's a toss up between Uncharted 2 and MGS 4.

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Naughty Dog did, it's called Uncharted 3.
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#122 TheManofTin
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Definitely Mass Effect.

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#123 MirkoS77
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[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="RageQuitter69"][QUOTE="Heirren"] And what is that?

Everyone see's it as a revolutionary masterpiece, I see it as a 4 hour long game with long repetitive cutscenes with terrible value for money that is bad for the gaming industry.

I just finished for the first time. It's absolutely brilliant outside some tedious dialog here and there. The Story, visuals, sound, music, art direction, and gameplay are all top notch. Also, from my time on this board I've noticed a lot of negativity around the game. There's also a LOT of gameplay. The playable movie this is bllsht.

MGS4 is easily one of, if not the, most overrated games of this gen. Perhaps of all time. The story was ridiculously all over the place and so burdensome that it was in constant danger of collapsing under its own weight, it had horrific (non-existent) editing, overly long cutscenes that took forever to say what could've been said in 5 minutes, cheesy and unnecessary dialogue, poor A.I, and dumb characters. Though I did get a good laugh from the soldier sh!tting his pants and the soda drinking money so it wasn't all bad. The biggest fault with MGS4 is it didn't know when to say "enough is enough".
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#124 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="MirkoS77"][QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="RageQuitter69"] Everyone see's it as a revolutionary masterpiece, I see it as a 4 hour long game with long repetitive cutscenes with terrible value for money that is bad for the gaming industry.

I just finished for the first time. It's absolutely brilliant outside some tedious dialog here and there. The Story, visuals, sound, music, art direction, and gameplay are all top notch. Also, from my time on this board I've noticed a lot of negativity around the game. There's also a LOT of gameplay. The playable movie this is bllsht.

MGS4 is easily one of, if not the, most overrated games of this gen. Perhaps of all time. The story was ridiculously all over the place and so burdensome that it was in constant danger of collapsing under its own weight, it had horrific (non-existent) editing, overly long cutscenes that took forever to say what could've been said in 5 minutes, cheesy and unnecessary dialogue, poor A.I, and dumb characters. Though I did get a good laugh from the soldier sh!tting his pants and the soda drinking money so it wasn't all bad. The biggest fault with MGS4 is it didn't know when to say "enough is enough".

All I can say is that I disagree. The story is brilliant. There is some iffy dialogue for sure, though. The editing was just phenomenal--put modern film editing to absolute shame. It's no wonder this has been a sought after property for so long.
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#125 MirkoS77
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The editing was just phenomenal--put modern film editing to absolute shame. It's no wonder this has been a sought after property for so long.Heirren
Well, if you think MGS4's editing puts modern film making editing to shame then I don't know what I can say. That's an assertion so absurd it's laughable, though I find most fans that hold MGS4 in such high acclaim also say that it's right up there with the greatest literature and cinema have to offer so I'm never surprised to hear such effusive and unwarranted praise for it. Competent modern day film editing is miles and miles above MGS4. As it is now it's an embarrassment and if it were a film solely taken on the merits of that aspect alone it'd be a testament of what NOT to do. But yea, I'll agree to heavily disagree with you.
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AC 3 atm :o
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#127 HipHopBeats
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[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

Uncharted 2 is definitely one of the most memorable games I've played this gen and I doubt ND will ever top it. With so many categories of games, there can never be just one 'game of the gen'. Plus with games like Watch Dogs, GTAV and Beyond Two Souls on the way, you never know. For me, it's a toss up between Uncharted 2 and MGS 4.

ZANIACK_

Naughty Dog did, it's called Uncharted 3.

Maybe with the multiplayer co-op, but definitely not the single player campaign.

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#128 xgraderx
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I'll give it to Bad Company 2,for the multiplayer of course.I played this game,by far more than any other and is the most memorable game I played this gen.

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#129 RageQuitter69
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I'll give it to Bad Company 2,for the multiplayer of course.I played this game,by far more than any other and is the most memorable game I played this gen.

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#130 xgraderx
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[QUOTE="xgraderx"]

I'll give it to Bad Company 2,for the multiplayer of course.I played this game,by far more than any other and is the most memorable game I played this gen.

RageQuitter69

sucks the online;s dead, on ps3 at least

There's not many left on the 360 either,everyones on BF3.

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#131 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"] The editing was just phenomenal--put modern film editing to absolute shame. It's no wonder this has been a sought after property for so long.MirkoS77
Well, if you think MGS4's editing puts modern film making editing to shame then I don't know what I can say. That's an assertion so absurd it's laughable, though I find most fans that hold MGS4 in such high acclaim also say that it's right up there with the greatest literature and cinema have to offer so I'm never surprised to hear such effusive and unwarranted praise for it. Competent modern day film editing is miles and miles above MGS4. As it is now it's an embarrassment and if it were a film solely taken on the merits of that aspect alone it'd be a testament of what NOT to do. But yea, I'll agree to heavily disagree with you.

Ironically, modern film editing takes a queue from games, particularly MGS. I don't see how you could debate the razor sharp editing of the cutscenes. Beautifully choreographed--the editors certainly have a knowledge of old school film editing, vs the current digital age.
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#132 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="ZANIACK_"][QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

Uncharted 2 is definitely one of the most memorable games I've played this gen and I doubt ND will ever top it. With so many categories of games, there can never be just one 'game of the gen'. Plus with games like Watch Dogs, GTAV and Beyond Two Souls on the way, you never know. For me, it's a toss up between Uncharted 2 and MGS 4.

HipHopBeats

Naughty Dog did, it's called Uncharted 3.

Maybe with the multiplayer co-op, but definitely not the single player campaign.

Not on the co-op either. Stupid that they took away options instead of adding them. Huge disappointment.

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[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

[QUOTE="ZANIACK_"] Naughty Dog did, it's called Uncharted 3.IndianaPwns39

Maybe with the multiplayer co-op, but definitely not the single player campaign.

Not on the co-op either. Stupid that they took away options instead of adding them. Huge disappointment.

I recently played through the Uncharted series. I have zero problems with people calling the third game the best. People tend to attach themselves to the second entry because of the audio/visual shock, but in reality the third game has the most refined gameplay. The storytelling takes a step up, as well, along with one of the best musical scores I've heard in quite some time(except for MGS4 which I finally got around to).
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#134 contracts420
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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

Maybe with the multiplayer co-op, but definitely not the single player campaign.

Heirren

Not on the co-op either. Stupid that they took away options instead of adding them. Huge disappointment.

I recently played through the Uncharted series. I have zero problems with people calling the third game the best. People tend to attach themselves to the second entry because of the audio/visual shock, but in reality the third game has the most refined gameplay. The storytelling takes a step up, as well, along with one of the best musical scores I've heard in quite some time(except for MGS4 which I finally got around to).

While I do prefer Uncharted 3, I am aware that it has some issues.

The aiming is not instantly responsive to diagonal movement of the analog stick. The plot does have a few holes and feels a bit rushed especially near the end, while not terrible, it just doesn't live up to the almost flawless plot of its predecessor. The game is not nearly as polished, it has its fair share of bugs. The pacing can be off and the game starts out pretty slow. In some areas I'd also say the visuals are a step down, but in some areas Uncharted 3 looks easily superior.

However Uncharted 3 is better at times as well. It has better hand to hand combat. The ability to toss grenades back. More thoughtful puzzles. The ability to leap onto enemies from above. Improved sound design. A more personal plot delving deeper into the characters. Improved animation. Better setpieces. Mostly improved visuals. Extensive multiplayer additions and enhancements.

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#135 IndianaPwns39
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[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

Maybe with the multiplayer co-op, but definitely not the single player campaign.

Heirren

Not on the co-op either. Stupid that they took away options instead of adding them. Huge disappointment.

I recently played through the Uncharted series. I have zero problems with people calling the third game the best. People tend to attach themselves to the second entry because of the audio/visual shock, but in reality the third game has the most refined gameplay. The storytelling takes a step up, as well, along with one of the best musical scores I've heard in quite some time(except for MGS4 which I finally got around to).

Uncharted 3 was a very good game, but it failed to live up to it's predecessor in many ways.

The one I mentioned, the co-op, is hard to argue against. You could no longer just play Survival, or Seige, or Gold Rush. You had to play that damn medley. If they had added the medley on and left the other 3 options, fine, but they didn't. A major flaw imo. Kickbacks were also annoying, and it could have benefited from a "sticks and stones" type gameplay mode. UC2 also had superior visuals and animation (for the online portions) and better lighting and still ran perfectly. The entire online functionality of UC3 lacked gameplay and customization options that 2 already had. Taking away what was already there instead of expanding on it irks me as a gamer.

I could argue the singleplayer too, but I brought up my disappointment with the online so that's what I defended.

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#136 Minishdriveby
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Upon a second playthough of Uncharted 3, I found the pacing so horrible. There were so many slow parts in between fire fights, and so many cut scenes that couldn't be skipped that were placed in between the slow parts it was rather annoying.

Walk, cutscene, walk, cutscene, "climb" a building, cutscene, cutscene, cutscene, walk, cutscene, 5 minute shooting section (gameplay section).

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#137 milkshakes793
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Battlefield 3, Deus Ex HR, hopefully Hitman absolution
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#138 awesomeface
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So far it's Red Dead Redemption for me.