you never thought these consoles would go up against eachother but i had to do it. So which console wins the cake?
Gamecube vs. Snes
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Maybe not quite "half" of what's left over, and maybe "sucked" is going over board ("mediocre" would be better)
- Geist sucked
- Luigi's Mansion I completed the afternoon I bought it
- Double Dash was the worst Mario Kart I've played and heralded the uber dumbing down of the series.
- Rebel Strike was glitchy and unfinished as hell, some of those levels were shameful, and the rest were rehashes of levels seen in earlier games, the only reason I kept that game is for the 2-player Rogue Leader extra.
- Crystal Chronicles is boring as hell on single player, heck its pretty dull on 2-player too, the game basically requires you to have a GameCube, 3 or 4 Game Boy Advances, and 3 or 4 link cables to be having fun with it.
- Pokemon Colosseum =
- Kirby's Air Ride :?
SNES is Nintendos worst console, on the other hand the NGC is not that much better.
I have vote for NGC, because the SNES is one of the main reasons why the N64 has not sold so much as expected.
Stefan91x
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SNES is Nintendos worst console, on the other hand the NGC is not that much better.
I have vote for NGC, because the SNES is one of the main reasons why the N64 has not sold so much as expected.
Stefan91x
What? SNES is Nintendo's worst console? I can easily list more good games on the SNES then on the GC and N64 COMBINED. The N64 does have a few of my all time favorite games, but outside of a handfull of games like the GC there is not a whole lot left over.
The SNES is one of the main reasons why the N64 didn't sell as much as expected?
You do realize that almost 50 million SNES were sold right? Or that most major reviews or websites put the SNES as either the best or second best console of all time? Did you know that several games are still being made for the console each year by way of homebrews, and that the games are usually sold out within a matter of hours? SNES sold more than 300,000 consoles in just a few hours at launch? If you add in reported sales numbers of all the newer consoles that can play SNES games that lifetime sales may be close to all time sales of any console? Nintendo had MUCH more competition in the SNES days?
The original NES sold around 60 million lifetime. That was with slim competition from Sega (11.8 million) and Atari (3.7) for a combined total sales of the three coming to around 74-75 million TOTAL units (for all three) sold.
However, the SNES sold 50 million with much more competition from the Gen/MD (40 million) and the TurboGrafx16 (10 million) not to mention a few other small markets. Bringing total generation sales easily over 100 million. This was while competing for a much more contested game market.... Nintendo retained 80% of lifetime sales despite nearly a 400% increase in competition.
The N64 however sold only 33 million worldwide, losing out to the new big dog SONY with their Playstation (102.5 million), Sega only sold around 10 million with their Saturn, and 3DO was pretty much a complete flop at around 2 million.
So, lets say 137 million consoles were sold this generation.
Nintendo dropped to around 55% of retained sales from the NES.. Almost a 1 in 2 loss in console sales, and managed to drop to around 3 in 4 sales to the SNES.
Playstation was what did Nintendo in the N64 generation (well that and the N64 was not that great, and the controller was pretty bad).... The next gen was the PS2, and once again history repeated itself.
See, the SNES had nothing to do with LOSS in sales for the N64, that was SONY's doing. If anything the SNES gained the N64 millions of sales it wouldn't have otherwise had.
You can disagree, but the proof is in the writing.
**Edit** also if the 91 in your user name means what I think it does, that explains a lot.
Uhm walls of text...Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong. The SNES has by far the lowest quality games out of any Nintendo console avaible.The only games worth playing are Act Raiser, Street Fighter 2, Killer Instinct, Secret of Mana, Secret of Mana 2, Sim City, Contra Alien Wars, Super Mario World, Super Mario World 2, Super Mario Allstars, DK Country Trilogy, Super Mario Kart, Super Metroid.And some of these games aren't nearly as good than the best ones on N64 and NGC.
So how did the SNES influence on the N64 sales? JRPGs
The N64 was about new things, like it or not. So Nintendo ignored JRPGs on purpose and this was a good decision.
And please don't bring up the Playstation which is sooooooooo untouchable according to you and many other guys here, right? But let me say one thing. Do you know how the PS1 managed to sell over 103 million? There was a modchip which enabled the usage of illegal copied CDs you know. Some rumors say Sony made it on purpose to push the sales forward, and to be honestly I believe them.You don't even needed CD burners, there were copyshops everywhere like sand on the beach. However, can you explain me how FF7 has "only" sold over 10 million games out of 103 million consoles? Goldeneye has sold over 8 million (only 2 million less) games out of 33 million consoles. Hmm strange...
All the best selling systems have sold so well because of dirty methods, it's the truth.
You can disagree as well, but the proof is written.
Also it's faczinating to see how you freak out just because I called the SNES as the worst Nintendo console in my book. It seems you can't deal with critism, if you're that sensitive you should not stay on the internet.
Oh and do you really criticize me because of the 91 in my name? This is just pathetic.
Read boy. Everything I posted is factual. Do you know what that means? I will tell you anyway since I'm sure you will post back with a ton of insightful interesting knowledge. That means that it is NOT my opinion and that it happened, whether you, me, or anybody else want it to be that way or not.
Also, the fact you would have been 5 years old when the N64 released, makes a lot of sense as to why you do not care for the SNES. You were not alive for part of it, and you were too young for the rest of it.
I have wasted enough of my time with you though. If you really think the Playstation sold so many consoles for the reason you listed you are dense. I suppose the PS2 did better then the PS for similar reasons?
^ ^ Ignore this
I'm going to start again.
I have read some BAD answers through my years at this site, but your responce to my answer is complete crap. I do not think I have ever read something so entirely untrue. You state things that are so wrong they are laughable and you think they are fact? lmao. Either you are a troll (a damn good or bad one.. depends on how you look at it) or a complete idiot.
Here is my color coding
Puple= Translation: I skimmed through your post ignoring that you used factual information. People who put "Wall of text" instead of reading the post are laughable at best.
Orange= Everything this color is purely opinion, nothing else.
Red= Completely wrong
Blue= This doesn't even make any sense....
Green= Copyshops like sand on the beach huh? That's cool and all... I never saw one or have seen this or (I could go on and on with this). Also, you realize that cart based games are pretty easy to copy as well right? Or the fact that you can undo region locks and different locks on Nintendo consoles through modding too right? Most consoles can be modded to play pirated copies but if you really think PS did that on purpose.... that just doen't make sense. They would have only been reducing their own sales... sigh.
Also, I have a great answer to your question. 10 million copies of FF sold, because that was the first FF that a ton of people ever played. Only 3 had been released in the states prior to it, and FF was NOWHERE near as popular in the states or rest of the world as it was in Japan. Also, RPG's are a niche genre. 10% of the people buying the game is pretty decent. Also, FF7 is nowhere near my favorite FF. To answer why Goldeneye sold so well, it is quite simple as well. Shooters are a hot item, always have been always will be. With so few great games on the N64 and then all of a sudden an entirely awesome game releases? Of course everybody is going to buy it.... lol On the Playstation there were so many great games that people did not need to flock to just one game. However, Goldeneye is one of my favorite games of all time.
To leave off with, I never criticised your user name... lol
I simply said it makes a lot of sense as to why you do not like the SNES. You were not there for it... plain and simple. You grew up with the N64 and that is your favorite Nintendo console. It really isn't all that ironic. Also it doesn't take a genius to understand what I meant...
Anyways though, anytime you want to play games, just let me know. It was fun for me to read your nonsensical drivel. It got several good laughs out of me. If you think the SNES sucked... that's fine, I could really care less btw. I am just pointing out your errors.
I deal with criticism just fine when someone calls me out for something that is true. However, a line from Billy Madison would fit the best here I believe, so without further ado here you are.
[QUOTE="Stefan9x"]Uhm walls of text...
Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong. The SNES has by far the lowest quality games out of any Nintendo console avaible. The only games worth playing are Act Raiser, Street Fighter 2, Killer Instinct, Secret of Mana, Secret of Mana 2, Sim City, Contra Alien Wars, Super Mario World, Super Mario World 2, Super Mario Allstars, DK Country Trilogy, Super Mario Kart, Super Metroid. And some of these games aren't nearly as good than the best ones on N64 and NGC.
GreySeal9
First of all, you're not really any kind of authority on what was worth playing.
Secondly, you forgot Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger, which are widely regarded as being among the best JRPGs of all time.
Thirdly, you probably shouldn't complain about walls of text and then go on to write a rather long post. That's called being a hyprorite.
I think we are dealing with another troll GreySeal9... there is no possible way this guy is as dumb as he comes across. I don't think it is possible.
A can of troll away should do the trick
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