Gamespot's RPG Winner is Demon's Souls ,Are you Agree ?

i agree , most people give their opinion and vote based on their feelings and experience i knew some people vote to the game they experienced and they reject others opinion without even playing the other games, :|and i suggest that gamespot in the future make 2 kind of vote one for the teen-age and under and the other for the old and more mature gamers, cause no way in hell GS will satisfy all gamers we have to respect and accept the the variety of gamers opinion ;)

So... can someone tell me what they did that no one else did?Koawinter

1) In game messaging system, with predefined texts to give tips/warns to other players. You can also recommend this messages and other players can recommend yours. If someone recommend your messages the game actually tell you this and heal you for free.

2) White ghost showing other people playing the game in the same area as you are. These are similar to Ghost's replay in racing games only these ones shows you another player in the same settings as you are.

3) If you are "DEAD", in other words in soul form, you can join other players games by leaving some blue marks in the floor, so when they see them, they can call you out to play with them and help them. Also there is a rating system in which after the coop session ends, you can rate other players (S, A, B, C or D ratings) and they can rate you. These ratings are shown when you are about to summon a player to fight along side you. This way you can avoid summoning players that have bad ratings. Also If you were summoned and you helped the host to defeat a boss, you gain back your body, this allows you to summon another player to help you defeat a boss.

4) If you are in soul form, you can invade another player game in the Black Phantom form to kill him, in this form the AI enemies and monsters are not hostile to you given you the chance to plan your attack, the host can summon other players to help him defeat you. If you manage to defeat the host player, you get more souls to upgrade your character and also you get your body back.

5) There are blood strains if you activate these, you can watch the last seconds from another player game before he died, this can be pretty funny actually. Of course every time you die you leave a blood strain which can be viewed by other players.

6) You can be another player final BOSS. This is **** amazing. Yes you can be summoned to be the last boss of someone else's game.

On top of this, the gameplay is simply superb, this game is pure gameplay and once you know what your doing the game becomes completely addicting and fun.

[QUOTE="Koawinter"]So... can someone tell me what they did that no one else did?LookAnDrolL

1) In game messaging system, with predefined texts to give tips/warns to other players. You can also recommend this messages and other players can recommend yours. If someone recommend your messages the game actually tell you this and heal you for free.

2) White ghost showing other people playing the game in the same area as you are. These are similar to Ghost's replay in racing games only these ones shows you another player in the same settings as you are.

3) If you are "DEAD", in other words in soul form, you can join other players games by leaving some blue marks in the floor, so when they see them, they can call you out to play with them and help them. Also there is a rating system in which after the coop session ends, you can rate other players (S, A, B, C or D ratings) and they can rate you. These ratings are shown when you are about to summon a player to fight along side you. This way you can avoid summoning players that have bad ratings. Also If you were summoned and you helped the host to defeat a boss, you gain back your body, this allows you to summon another player to help you defeat a boss.

4) If you are in soul form, you can invade another player game in the Black Phantom form to kill him, in this form the AI enemies and monsters are not hostile to you given you the chance to plan your attack, the host can summon other players to help him defeat you. If you manage to defeat the host player, you get more souls to upgrade your character and also you get your body back.

5) There are blood strains if you activate these, you can watch the last seconds from another player game before he died, this can be pretty funny actually. Of course every time you die you leave a blood strain which can be viewed by other players.

6) You can be another player final BOSS. This is **** amazing. Yes you can be summoned to be the last boss of someone else's game.

On top of this, the gameplay is simply superb, this game is pure gameplay and once you know what your doing the game becomes completely addicting and fun.

[QUOTE="LookAnDrolL"]

[QUOTE="Koawinter"]So... can someone tell me what they did that no one else did?inferna_hermit

1) In game messaging system, with predefined texts to give tips/warns to other players. You can also recommend this messages and other players can recommend yours. If someone recommend your messages the game actually tell you this and heal you for free.

2) White ghost showing other people playing the game in the same area as you are. These are similar to Ghost's replay in racing games only these ones shows you another player in the same settings as you are.

3) If you are "DEAD", in other words in soul form, you can join other players games by leaving some blue marks in the floor, so when they see them, they can call you out to play with them and help them. Also there is a rating system in which after the coop session ends, you can rate other players (S, A, B, C or D ratings) and they can rate you. These ratings are shown when you are about to summon a player to fight along side you. This way you can avoid summoning players that have bad ratings. Also If you were summoned and you helped the host to defeat a boss, you gain back your body, this allows you to summon another player to help you defeat a boss.

4) If you are in soul form, you can invade another player game in the Black Phantom form to kill him, in this form the AI enemies and monsters are not hostile to you given you the chance to plan your attack, the host can summon other players to help him defeat you. If you manage to defeat the host player, you get more souls to upgrade your character and also you get your body back.

5) There are blood strains if you activate these, you can watch the last seconds from another player game before he died, this can be pretty funny actually. Of course every time you die you leave a blood strain which can be viewed by other players.

6) You can be another player final BOSS. This is **** amazing. Yes you can be summoned to be the last boss of someone else's game.

On top of this, the gameplay is simply superb, this game is pure gameplay and once you know what your doing the game becomes completely addicting and fun.

is this things change the world and innovating ? i guess not . adding some options dosen't mean Revolution ,like i said before inferna_hermit

Main Entry: in·no·va·tion

Pronunciation: \ˌi-nə-ˈvā-shən\Function: nounDate: 15th century

1: the introduction of something new
2: a new idea, method, or device :novelty

— in·no·va·tion·al-shnəl, -shə-nəladjective

[QUOTE="uyiop0t"]That's why I'm glad these things aren't won by a popularity vote.Lone_Warrior_66

There is an upside and a downside to that.

Yes, it's good that us as the mass gamers can be heard and that our personal opinions matter, but a lot of us aren't as "equipped" to warrant an official title of Game of the Year like video game sites do. The editers here, this is their job is to play video games and write and review them, and they have this job because they have the insight and analytical skills to put forth their arguments for or against something. At least forty hours every single week, this is what they do, so in a way, and this may sound weird but bear with me, they are professional and best at deciding these sorts of things. I'm not saying I need someone to think for me, that's not it at all, but I would trust a reviewer on a website who has tons of experience with this sort of thing than just some random guy on the street who played a certain game at his friend's house. Yeah, that random guy has an opinion too and it's good he does and it's valid, but I wouldn't trust him to decide GOTY rather than someone who does this type of thing day in and day out.

That's why there is the reader's voting awards, so that the masses can input, which is good that that average guy can speak his mind as well, but there is a reason why people trust professional web sites and their choices and that's because the editors have lots of experience and are good at what they do, which is analyzing the qualities of video games.

For example, who is more likely to look past media hype when determining the quality of a game, a professional video game reviewer who does this for hours and hours every week, or some random gamer? Not saying the gamer can't, but it's the professional reviewer's job to look past the media hype and determine the true quality of the game based on its own merits, that's why people trust it.

[QUOTE="Lone_Warrior_66"][QUOTE="uyiop0t"]That's why I'm glad these things aren't won by a popularity vote.uyiop0t

There is an upside and a downside to that.

Yes, it's good that us as the mass gamers can be heard and that our personal opinions matter, but a lot of us aren't as "equipped" to warrant an official title of Game of the Year like video game sites do. The editers here, this is their job is to play video games and write and review them, and they have this job because they have the insight and analytical skills to put forth their arguments for or against something. At least forty hours every single week, this is what they do, so in a way, and this may sound weird but bear with me, they are professional and best at deciding these sorts of things. I'm not saying I need someone to think for me, that's not it at all, but I would trust a reviewer on a website who has tons of experience with this sort of thing than just some random guy on the street who played a certain game at his friend's house. Yeah, that random guy has an opinion too and it's good he does and it's valid, but I wouldn't trust him to decide GOTY rather than someone who does this type of thing day in and day out.

That's why there is the reader's voting awards, so that the masses can input, which is good that that average guy can speak his mind as well, but there is a reason why people trust professional web sites and their choices and that's because the editors have lots of experience and are good at what they do, which is analyzing the qualities of video games.

For example, who is more likely to look past media hype when determining the quality of a game, a professional video game reviewer who does this for hours and hours every week, or some random gamer? Not saying the gamer can't, but it's the professional reviewer's job to look past the media hype and determine the true quality of the game based on its own merits, that's why people trust it.

@LookAnDrolL:i dono some web game :) is this thing you say can really change world of gaming ? or evolution ? they improved their online system ,if DS was a first game with ONLINE system yeah we can call it creative or innovation game.

@LookAnDrolL:i dono some web game :) is this thing you say can really change world of gaming ? or evolution ? they improved their online system ,if DS was a first game with ONLINE system yeah we can call it creative or innovation game.

inferna_hermit

i dont agree with that for me dragon age origins and this one is one of the best too but dragn age wins .

50% of people voted dragon age true but out of that 50% probably 10% or less might have played demon souls. probably one of the main reason is it is a brutal game in terms of difficulty. don't get me wrong here i also rented out dragon age to see and experience what's the fuzz all about but still demon souls for me is a unique experience in terms of gameplay and how the game presents itself. i even hated the level of difficulty at first but also drew me in more to it. the fact you can summon somebody or be summoned or invading somebody else's game is quite innovative. i have no intention on dissing people who liked dragon age but demon souls did remarkable by mixing the old and new. try it for yourself and i assure you will like it

Come on more then 50% of people Vote for Dragon Age Origins , So don't tell me i'm upset because it's PS3 exclusive !

inferna_hermit

DAO is a piece of $%^#! Anyone waving the flag for that game either hasn't played it, or wouldn't know a quality game if it slapped themin the face.

@LookAnDrolL:i dono some web game :) is this thing you say can really change world of gaming ? or evolution ? they improved their online system ,if DS was a first game with ONLINE system yeah we can call it creative or innovation game.

inferna_hermit

[QUOTE="inferna_hermit"]

yes they are cool but not innovating to change games history ,like halo

Timbydude

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

Oh mercy. I havent laughed like that in quite a awhile. Thanks.

The problem i see with demon's souls is not that it's bad, on the contrary it gave me very pleasant times, coupled with some frustration sure but a kind of satisfaction I've long felt missing.

The real problem is that in my opinion it isn't an RPG, there's no R there, just PG, in other words, it's a hack and slash game same as diablo, and i am not saying diablo was a bad game, i loved it but to me it was a hack and slash, again not a single piece of R there.

A RPG game should be rewarded for it's story primarily since the whole genre was supposed to revolve around it, in a sense i guess the computer folks will never get this, but i am sure as i can be anyone who ever played an old school table RPG weeps a little by this nomination, since it only serve to inspire a new generation of ever more meaningless games, where choices get streamlined to kill pressing X or Y.

As game of the year though, demon's soul was a fine choice and i agree with it.

I think people who think PRG = story never played D & D back in the day with dice and paper. The "stories" were for the most part the same as Demon's Souls. "There's a great evil go kill it." Moreover, there IS a story in DS. It's not as convoluted like DA:O and in your face about it. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=954345&topic=52233064 . Gamers are so spoon feed these days that if they have to dig for something it must not be there. BTW the Roll in RPG = dice roll. dok_dx

And I think everybody is entitled to his own opinion, culture and way of doing stuff, in my table days RPG stood for role playing game, and it used to be more about people less about dice, by itself RPG does not = story, it means playing a role in said story based game, in other words, making choices that will define your role in said story.

Demon's Souls has a story, one that is less implicit as you pointed out but still it's a background more than an element of the game, there's almost nothing about role playing there

If however you do play role playing games otherwise, fine, not my concern, just don't assume someone is wrong based on your definition of RPG rather than the general one.

Edit: Added dok_dx quote

And I think everybody is entitled to his own opinion, culture and way of doing stuff, in my table days RPG stood for role playing game, and it used to be more about people less about dice, by itself RPG does not = story, it means playing a role in said story based game, in other words, making choices that will define your role in said story.

Demon's Souls has a story, one that is less implicit as you pointed out but still it's a background more than an element of the game, there's almost nothing about role playing there

If however you do play role playing games otherwise, fine, not my concern, just don't assume someone is wrong based on your definition of RPG rather than the general one.

Edit: Added dok_dx quote

vladhslavh

I understand where you're coming from however you're missing the point. When RPG players constantly think that RPG = story and not let's say action, excitement, fear, or the actual stats and dice roll they are missing the point of what RPG were. The Roll you played in paper D&D was not told to you by the DM or your friends. It was your imagination. Through your actions you defined the roll you were playing. Most, video game RPGs literally tells you what you have to do, how you have to go about it and where you need to go next and thus tell you how you fit into this story. DS doesn't tell you anything. You have to figure it out and then use your imagination to fill in the blanks.

When RPGs made it's way in to video games, it was piercingly the dice roll and the stats that related to it that made them RPGs. Most of the early games had the same story as DS. But it wasn't the story that made them RPGs it was the rolls and the stats related to them. Look at borderlands or Deus Ex with their RPG elements (granted the latter had a great story but was not considered a true RPG). By your definition almost all games are Roll Playing Games b/c most games you're, "playing a role in said story based game, in other words, making choices that will define your role in said story." Think Infamous a game I would not call an RPG or have RPG elements and it does everything you just said. This not my opinion of what an RPG is, it is the definition of a RPG. Your "general one" seem to be some love affair with past RPGs that had epic stories. BTW I loved all those stories in both WRPGs and JRPGs that most RPG fans come to expect. But, I'm not blinded by it.

The only real argument that can be made about DS not being a true RPG is about the fact that there is no Dice Roll it just has stats. But you didn't make that one. But it's an Action RPG which imples no dice roll.

*Spoiler*

In DS the background information and the limited NPC interactions, which the game does let you miss out on, informs the story that you actually have to think about for it to make sense. It's not just a story about you killing a great evil. It's about what you are doing to fight that great evil. The Old One chooses you for a reason b/c you are by the end of the game the most powerful Soul Arts User. Basically you're playing the game leveling up using souls to become more powerful just like the person who released the Old One in the first place.

i dis-agree..Dragon age;origins deserves the rpg of the year

@dok_dx

Rationalize what you will, I've made point quite clear and I was not and still am not trying to change your mind nor anyone else's, merely stating an opinion which by the way, to each his own.

I have DS & UC2. DS is definitely the more innovative game & I loved UC2. TBH I'd find it hard to split the two. But did anyone here really listen to the award video?

Really?

What I'm on about is not the reasons GS editors gave, but the kinds of things they were saying. Everyone to a man wasn't just saying things like DS deserves it because of X or Y & leaving it at that. So what were they saying? They were telling stories of gameplay events.

Like all truly great games it leaves people with stories about the time I did this or when this other crazy thing happened. Demon's Souls leaves you with heaps of these gameplay moments.

Uncharted 2, whilst being a fantastic game, is essentially the same experience for everyone as it's so tightly (& well) scripted.

Anyway, two Dreglings walk into a bar...

Copyand pastethis if you think Demon Souls shuld come to the XBOX 360!!!

No I do not.