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#1 ice_ranger
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what do you guys think?
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#2 Venom_Raptor
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Not even debatable that it's GTA V. Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. Series shouldn't be compared to the likes of GTA.

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#3 Darth_Kane
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GTAV of course. SR4 is just a DLC to SR3

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#4 marcheegsr
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GTAV of course.

Saints row is too over the top. I liked what Saints row 1 and 2 did but after that it seems like its going downhill.

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#5 Stinger78
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Saints Row started as a decent 'inspired' alternative to the GTA series. With Saints Row The Third, and moreso with SR IV, the point seems to be about pushing boundaries and providing a lot of 'things', whereas GTA has kept order with its sandbox by tying everything into more coherent storyline elements.

Edit:  Of the 2, I'll be buying GTA V at launch, as I already have it pre-ordered.  Saints Row IV will wait until I see something more appealing than I've seen so far.

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#6 Treflis
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Want over the top action and cheesy humor = Saints Row 4 Want more down-to-earth action and satire = Grand Theft Auto 5 That said, Getting both.
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#7 sukraj
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GTA V

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#8 Doom_HellKnight
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Grand Theft Auto 5 will end up being the better game, but Saints Row 4 is more appealing to me and I'll no doubt enjoy it more.
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#9 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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Would not even place them in the same genre. Of the two games I hope it will be GTA 5, but given that I absolutely loathed GTA 4 and really liked SR3 then it is up for who produces the better overall game.

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#10 Comduter
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GTA V is going to be the better game overall, but I'm still planning on getting SR4 eventually.  I love SR The 3rd.  So there's no way I'm missing out on the next game.

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#11 RageQuitter69
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Grand Theft Auto V regardless if you live in Australia, but seriously, Grand Theft Auto V be leaps and bounds better than Saints Row 4.

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#12 MonoSilver
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GTA V no contest.
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#13 A_MExican21
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GTA for sure, but i'll probably get saints row on sale.

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#14 JML897
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Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. Venom_Raptor

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

I won't be getting either one at full-price but I'll probably get them both once they drop to like $15 each

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#15 Grammaton-Cleric
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[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"] Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. JML897

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

The difference being that GTA isn't reliant on humor whereby contrast SR uses said humor to obfuscate the uneven game play mechanics.

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#16 JML897
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"] Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. Grammaton-Cleric

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

The difference being that GTA isn't reliant on humor whereby contrast SR uses said humor to obfuscate the uneven game play mechanics.

Will you defend Rockstar/GTA from literally any complaint that people have? It's getting weird, you're like a Justin Bieber fan except Rockstar is your Bieber
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#17 Grammaton-Cleric
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I enjoyed the first SR despite it being incredibly derivative but the second game was absolute shit from a technical and mechanical standpoint.

SR3 was technically sound and plenty of fun but SR4 just looks...bizarre.

Personally I think the SR franchise has run its course but August isn't a cluttered month for releases so if the gameplay holds up I may nab it.

Regardless, GTAV will curbstomp it and probably most other sandbox titles as well.

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#18 Grammaton-Cleric
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Will you defend Rockstar/GTA from literally any complaint that people have? It's getting weird, you're like a Justin Bieber fan except Rockstar is your Bieber

JML897

Considering your infantile little hate-boner for Rockstar in general I'm relatively unmoved by your accusation.

You've been trolling this game hard so why don't you do everyone a favor and focus on games that you actually enjoy.

Also, my point was salient and entirely relevant so calm yourself.

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#19 tendoboy1984
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I don't get why the Saints Row franchise went from being a simple San Andreas clone to becoming a cartoony chaotic mess. Why the sudden change? SR3 was fun, but it was just too crazy to take seriously. It was a complete departure from the "thug life" storyline of the previous games.

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#20 AbstractRadical
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GTA V
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#21 MonoSilver
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[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"] Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. JML897

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

I won't be getting either one at full-price but I'll probably get them both once they drop to like $15 each

The humour in the GTA games has always been pretty clever, mature and well written. The Saints Row games are basically just puerile, infantile and immature.
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#22 thedarklinglord
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Saints Row IV will be the more enjoyable to play for sheer silly, stupid, reckless mayhem - with co-op! GTA V will be the more impressive in terms of story, atmosphere and sheer scope. Unless Rockstar has dramatically overhauled the mechanics - tightened up the driving, smoothed out the character movement, refined the gunplay, and finally included a proper checkpoint system that doesn't force me to completely restart a failed mission - I'll probably have more fun with Saints Row IV, but there's no question that I'll be awed by everything they've done with GTA V, as it'll set the new standard for what open world games should aspire to.
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#23 ShepardCommandr
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GTA V will take a massive dump all over Saints Row 3,1.(the latest gta gameplay simply proves it)

It's not even a comparison at this point.

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#25 Jacanuk
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what do you guys think?ice_ranger
I think its stupid to compare the 2 since they are not really going down the same road. But i think it has been clear for awhile that GTA has "beat" Saints Row, especially when the guys making Saints Row has thrown in the towel and gone completly away from making a game similar to GTA.in story and seriousness.
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#26 SoNin360
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I really enjoyed Saint's Row 3, but I'm not so sure about Saint's Row 4 right now. I think SR3 had a good amount of absurdity, but SR4 just seems like... too much, I guess. It's like it's going too far from its roots and is just becoming something really... stupid. That said, I still want to play it because it might still be enjoyable. I don't mind an experience that contains no seriousness and is just about the fun, but that said, GTAV is looking better in every other aspect, possibly even including the fun factor.
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#27 Supes_24
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[QUOTE="Treflis"]Want over the top action and cheesy humor = Saints Row 4 Want more down-to-earth action and satire = Grand Theft Auto 5 That said, Getting both.

Spot on. You nailed it and I've played both, although saints row 3 for the first time this week, I prefer SR. I like that crazy wreak havoc type games. I'll be getting SR once a price drop happens. Neither one is worth a first day purchase.
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Saint's Row 4, can't stand Rockstar's nonsense. No desire nor wish to play as male either, so Saint's Row 4 for me, GTA5 doesn't allow for the choice - as is usual for Rockstar due to their males only obsession with their characters who are always boring heterosexual, cis-gender males.
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#29 Jacanuk
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Saint's Row 4, can't stand Rockstar's nonsense. No desire nor wish to play as male either, so Saint's Row 4 for me, GTA5 doesn't allow for the choice - as is usual for Rockstar due to their males only obsession with their characters who are always boring heterosexual, cis-gender males.Smokescreened84
Why would/should they allow a choice? they are not trying to please som PC feminist BS agenda Also the way GTA is , it would be hard to fit a female character into that.
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[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Saint's Row 4, can't stand Rockstar's nonsense. No desire nor wish to play as male either, so Saint's Row 4 for me, GTA5 doesn't allow for the choice - as is usual for Rockstar due to their males only obsession with their characters who are always boring heterosexual, cis-gender males.Jacanuk
Why would/should they allow a choice? they are not trying to please som PC feminist BS agenda Also the way GTA is , it would be hard to fit a female character into that.

It would be a chance to finally allow the choice, their games are boring, stale junk that got old over a decade ago. They do the same tired ideas, same tired character types, same boring male power fantasy. It isn't hard to have the main lead/s be female, all it takes is something that Rockstar's writer's clearly lack - imagination. Until they grow up and get over their males only obsession, then I won't touch their stale nonsense with a ten foot barge pole.
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#31 Jacanuk
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[QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Saint's Row 4, can't stand Rockstar's nonsense. No desire nor wish to play as male either, so Saint's Row 4 for me, GTA5 doesn't allow for the choice - as is usual for Rockstar due to their males only obsession with their characters who are always boring heterosexual, cis-gender males.Smokescreened84
Why would/should they allow a choice? they are not trying to please som PC feminist BS agenda Also the way GTA is , it would be hard to fit a female character into that.

It would be a chance to finally allow the choice, their games are boring, stale junk that got old over a decade ago. They do the same tired ideas, same tired character types, same boring male power fantasy. It isn't hard to have the main lead/s be female, all it takes is something that Rockstar's writer's clearly lack - imagination. Until they grow up and get over their males only obsession, then I won't touch their stale nonsense with a ten foot barge pole.

Well its your loss.

But considering that if you take a game like Mass Effect where you had the option that only 18% chose a female Sheppard, its pretty clear that the majority of gamers prefer a male hero.

Also i cant see how a female protagonist in GTA would be possible, its a game about sex, drugs, crime and violence, it would be very hard to make a female character fit into that.

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[QUOTE="Jacanuk"][QUOTE="Smokescreened84"]Saint's Row 4, can't stand Rockstar's nonsense. No desire nor wish to play as male either, so Saint's Row 4 for me, GTA5 doesn't allow for the choice - as is usual for Rockstar due to their males only obsession with their characters who are always boring heterosexual, cis-gender males.Smokescreened84
Why would/should they allow a choice? they are not trying to please som PC feminist BS agenda Also the way GTA is , it would be hard to fit a female character into that.

It would be a chance to finally allow the choice, their games are boring, stale junk that got old over a decade ago. They do the same tired ideas, same tired character types, same boring male power fantasy. It isn't hard to have the main lead/s be female, all it takes is something that Rockstar's writer's clearly lack - imagination. Until they grow up and get over their males only obsession, then I won't touch their stale nonsense with a ten foot barge pole.

I have to admit that I'm having a bit of a problem making a logical connection between male GTA characters and a lack of imagination on the Part of Rockstar's writing crew. It's as if saying that unless the protagonists are mexican bisexual transgender pre-op midgets, then the writers simply have no imagination.

That's not so say that I'd have anything against a female, or multiple female leads in a GTA game, but the simple fact of not having gone in that direction does not imply a lack of imagination on the part of the writers.

If you're going to say somehing along that lines, you might as well lump in every game in history which does not have a female lead, or at least the choice to play as a female lead.

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#33 Ricardomz
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GTA 5 is realistic. Saints Row 4 is stupid but cool'ish...

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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"] Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. MonoSilver

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

I won't be getting either one at full-price but I'll probably get them both once they drop to like $15 each

The humour in the GTA games has always been pretty clever, mature and well written. The Saints Row games are basically just puerile, infantile and immature.

Well put.

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GTA5 by miles and miles for me. I expect every aspect to be of much higher quality.
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#36 IndianaPwns39
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GTAV. No question.

Saints Row 4 looks stupid. It appears to be trying way too hard to be obsurd and funny when instead it just comes off as obnoxious. 

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[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"] Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. JML897

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

I won't be getting either one at full-price but I'll probably get them both once they drop to like $15 each

BAWSAQ is that similar juvenile humor, sure, but it isn't something that everyone notices upon watching the trailer. It's just kind of there, for a split second, and when you see it as a reference to real world stock script it has a tiny bit of wit.

Saints Row 4 is just over bearing and basically yells at you with all the wacky stuff it has. 

Nudity! Aliens! DUB STEP GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="Venom_Raptor"] Saints Row 4 just looks stupid and unfunny. MonoSilver

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

I won't be getting either one at full-price but I'll probably get them both once they drop to like $15 each

The humour in the GTA games has always been pretty clever, mature and well written. The Saints Row games are basically just puerile, infantile and immature.

To be fair the GTA series has it's fair share of immature humour too. It just doesn't shove it in your face constantly like SR does and has well written humour in there as well.

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Saints Row 4 will be better. Better graphics anyway, judging by what i've seen.

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#40 jsmoke03
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its getting to the point where i dont think the 2 games are comparable just as much assassins creed can't really be compared to gta

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#41 MonoSilver
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[QUOTE="MonoSilver"][QUOTE="JML897"]

Because the game with jokes like "BAWSAQ" is so hilarious. I think both franchises are guilty of really lame attempts at humor.

I won't be getting either one at full-price but I'll probably get them both once they drop to like $15 each

burgeg

The humour in the GTA games has always been pretty clever, mature and well written. The Saints Row games are basically just puerile, infantile and immature.

To be fair the GTA series has it's fair share of immature humour too. It just doesn't shove it in your face constantly like SR does and has well written humour in there as well.

True. It's a bit like Monty Python. That's very silly and childish but very funny and geared more towards adults.
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#42 HipHopBeats
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GTA V all the way. Even Mad Max looks more appealing than SR 4. crap. SR 2 was better than GTA IV crap and pretty cool with a balance between serious and goofy, but went downhill after that when they started going all goofy in SR 3.I'll check out SR4 when it's free on PSN.

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[QUOTE="Smokescreened84"][QUOTE="Jacanuk"] Why would/should they allow a choice? they are not trying to please som PC feminist BS agenda Also the way GTA is , it would be hard to fit a female character into that.Jacanuk

It would be a chance to finally allow the choice, their games are boring, stale junk that got old over a decade ago. They do the same tired ideas, same tired character types, same boring male power fantasy. It isn't hard to have the main lead/s be female, all it takes is something that Rockstar's writer's clearly lack - imagination. Until they grow up and get over their males only obsession, then I won't touch their stale nonsense with a ten foot barge pole.

Well its your loss.

But considering that if you take a game like Mass Effect where you had the option that only 18% chose a female Sheppard, its pretty clear that the majority of gamers prefer a male hero.

Also i cant see how a female protagonist in GTA would be possible, its a game about sex, drugs, crime and violence, it would be very hard to make a female character fit into that.

Even with the new Tomb Raider and The Last Of Us, they're have been articles about the violent deaths of female NPC's and the near rape of Ellie and Lara Croft. Feminist gamers ware way too touchy and self entitled to please.

No matter how you incorporate a female protagonist in an adult themed video game that is not character customization, it's inevitable to incur some form of negative feedback from feminist gamers.

Plus why does every dev need to cater to every specific gamer? Rockstar knows it's audience and there's nothing wrong with sticking with a formula that works.

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#44 Mawy_Golomb
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My only concern is that GTA V's story won't impress as much as GTA IV's. Judging by the trailers, it doesn't appear as serious, so the character development will probably not be anywhere along the lines of something like GTA IV. That said, it's still great that it's going down the route of being more like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, with lots of features, only way more polished this time around. I still feel like Watch Dogs and MGS5 will be a greater breath of fresh air because the directions that they're taking are less familiar (even Star Citizen's concept sounds more interesting/unique), whereas we've been getting the same GTA experience since GTA III, even if the formula has been improved upon a lot since then.

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i think the 3 character mechanic can be labeled "revolutionary" when it comes to a game like this, its been done before, but never like this...... 

 

 

i dont think watch dogs will be as good as gta 5

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Am I denying that GTA V will be a huge blockbuster, AAA title? Not at all. I'm sure it'll do very well in terms of both quality and quantity.

 

It's not so much about whether or not Watch Dogs is nearly perfect in every way--it's the fact that it has more unique gameplay to offer us. And that alone, at least for me, is enough for me to be more interested in it than in GTA V. I still will likely be coming back to the GTA franchise more often than with most franchises, which is usually a rarity for me, considering how many other unique IPs I'd like to try out. I don't have enough time, patience, and/or money to continue to invest in the bulk of long-running franchises that I've come across in the past.

 

As another open world title, MGS5 will especially be interesting for being largely a stealth game. And one that has both light and shadow stealth, as well as stealth which is based on field-of-sight/distance (as was the case in previous MGS games). AC has never been about all the different forms of stealth layered together (with no light and shadow gameplay to be found), so this will be a true stealth experience (unlike any other that has come before it, including other open world games that include a little bit of stealth, such as Far Cry and Crysis, just to name a few).

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#47 lensflare15
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I haven't even played the Saints Row games yet, though I've been meaning too. I know more about GTA V, and that looks promising so I'll go with that.

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Is that a joke?
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#50 kingcrimson24
Member since 2012 • 824 Posts
GTA duh