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#1 Decrate
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for the current gen (360, ps3, wii, and PC games that came out 2005+. no handhelds)

what game would you say is the most challenging on its default settings (no higher difficulty settings)

i've rented countless games so far for all 3 systems, and own lots of PC games.

and despite PC gaming being refered to as more hardcore gaming than consoles, i must admit that for this gen Demon's Souls has been the most challenging game i've played without being cheap on its difficulty

if you die its always because you made a mistake. not the way where you expose yourself in a shooter and you get shot from half a mile away from an enemy who spots you and headshots from hip fire. rather its more like you were careless in your approach to attack and maybe didnt switch to proper equipment because you were too lazy to or because you rushed through a corridor instead of scouting for enemies before.

whats your opinion if you have one, and is there another game you would recommend?

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#2 TheHighWind
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Ninja Gaiden 2 is pretty hard. Some of the boss fights are nearly impossible still havent beat the last one.

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#3 2-10-08
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Call of Duty 3 on veteran mode, either you die a cheap death or the game freezes up on you. Never wanted to play that game again.

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#4 Renzokucant
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Demons souls
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#5 TSNAKE617
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Call of Duty 3 on veteran mode, either you die a cheap death or the game freezes up on you. Never wanted to play that game again.

2-10-08


He specified that it has to be the normal difficulty mode.

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#6 Loegi
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Call of Duty 3 on veteran mode, either you die a cheap death or the game freezes up on you. Never wanted to play that game again.

2-10-08

You didn't read the OP, right? -_-

And why no handhelds? Prinny is bloody hard, though I think not as hard as Demon's Souls.

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#7 TSNAKE617
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[QUOTE="2-10-08"]

Call of Duty 3 on veteran mode, either you die a cheap death or the game freezes up on you. Never wanted to play that game again.

Loegi

You didn't read the OP, right? -_-

And why no handhelds? Prinny is bloody hard, though I think not as hard as Demon's Souls.


I can beat Demon's Souls with only a few problems, but I can't beat the second appearance of Kim and Chi on Prinny no matter what. Prinny is much harder for me.

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#8 SapSacPrime
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Well Ikaruga is an xbox live game this gen and if that counts it easily wins, that game is b****** hard :?.

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#9 Crimsader
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Rybka 2. No chance that anyone could ever beat this "game".
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#10 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Geometry Wars.

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#11 Ravirr
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Death Smiles

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#12 seanehawk
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That i've played? Demon's Souls. It's a shame that the current gen. would like an easy button to play the game for them. As if all the generic shooters weren't easy enough.

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#13 Decrate
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Well Ikaruga is an xbox live game this gen and if that counts it easily wins, that game is b****** hard :?.

SapSacPrime

on gamespot it has "Punishing Difficulty" as "The Bad" just like Demon's Souls. now i'm tempted to check it out.

on the Prinny game, it doesnt have that "con" mentioned above.

to me "Punishing Difficulty" con is really a pro lol, so long as everything else in the game is nice

and i just saw that ninja gaiden 2 for the 360 has it too!

i only played the ninja gaiden sigmas for the ps3, but not the new one for the 360 yet. gotta check it out now

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#14 wiouds
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You can make game harder just by limiting what you can do. If Final Fantasy XIIIlimit the amount of CP you use.

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#15 Aspen706
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Demon's souls is just plain nasty.
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#16 T_REX305
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probably demon souls or motorstorm 2. but thats because i only have PS3.

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#17 The-Longshot
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I would have to say Ninja Gaiden 2 gets my vote.

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#18 SirRiffAlot
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Demon's Souls by far. That game is just ruthless in it's difficulty. (It's name is pretty difficult to pronounce as well!)

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#19 MassiveKaos
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[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"]

Well Ikaruga is an xbox live game this gen and if that counts it easily wins, that game is b****** hard :?.

Decrate

on gamespot it has "Punishing Difficulty" as "The Bad" just like Demon's Souls. now i'm tempted to check it out.

on the Prinny game, it doesnt have that "con" mentioned above.

to me "Punishing Difficulty" con is really a pro lol, so long as everything else in the game is nice

and i just saw that ninja gaiden 2 for the 360 has it too!

i only played the ninja gaiden sigmas for the ps3, but not the new one for the 360 yet. gotta check it out now

Yeah for some reason the regular ninja gaidens are MUCH HARDER than the sigmas on there respective difficulties (2s normal being wayy harder than sigma 2s norm and 2s very hard being way harder than sigma 2s very hard ect.)

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#20 Vexx88
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Technically Touhou games are still being made. Therefore any game in this thread is null and void :P
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#21 Bigboi500
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Little King's Story or Demon's Souls.

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#22 KillerJuan77
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Demon's Souls, The Void, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? are horribly difficult.

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#23 Ravirr
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Technically Touhou games are still being made. Therefore any game in this thread is null and void :PVexx88

What was the last one made?

Wasn't it Shoot the Bullet..I could be way behind on my Touhou

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#24 Some-Mist
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Death Smiles

Ravirr

this, demon's souls, or if there are actually touhou games still being made.

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#25 Vexx88
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[QUOTE="Vexx88"]Technically Touhou games are still being made. Therefore any game in this thread is null and void :PRavirr

What was the last one made?

Wasn't it Shoot the Bullet..I could be way behind on my Touhou

They are on Touhou 12 now that came out in August but now they are up to 12.5 and all the remakes inside this game.
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#26 Decrate
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Demon's Souls, The Void, Ninja Gaiden 2 and Prinny: Can I Really Be The Hero? are horribly difficult.

KillerJuan77
ah to bad the void hasnt been reviewed here yet, but all the other games you mentioned are very challenging
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#27 The-Longshot
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all this talk of demons souls had me look up the video review, wish i knew someone with a ps3 so i could borrow it to play that game, it looks excellent! and i approve of punishing difficulty, really makes you get your moneys worth, and is a good test of gaming skills.

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#28 OneSanitarium
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I wouldn't buy Demons Souls, since the game isn't all that great.

It's not a bad game, but the difficulty is over exaggerated. Many people have said it's a game that you have to pace yourself in, or that just running ahead is impossible.

I've ran through the most part of the Bolitarian Palace, 1-1 to 1-4, without getting hit once.

But aside from my stupidity and urge to run through things from boredom, if you do just take your time, the game is fairly easy. Other than spears, atleast for me, you can parry most weapon and counter to do massive damage.

It's hard, but it's not.

New Game + is a different story though.

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#29 Ravirr
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[QUOTE="Ravirr"]

[QUOTE="Vexx88"]Technically Touhou games are still being made. Therefore any game in this thread is null and void :PVexx88

What was the last one made?

Wasn't it Shoot the Bullet..I could be way behind on my Touhou

They are on Touhou 12 now that came out in August but now they are up to 12.5 and all the remakes inside this game.

Good info, went and got it. :D

I guess I got behind since I am still working on 8 haha.

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#30 jun_aka_pekto
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Two PC games for me: X-Plane 9 and DCS: Black Shark

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#31 cropcircles
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resonance of fate and demons souls. i love both of these games.
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#32 yokofox33
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Resonance of Fate is really difficult, especially at the beginning and end portions of the game. The last boss took me 10 tries and 90 minutes to beat. Still loved the game though and it's one of my favorite JRPGs this gen behind VC, Persona 4, and ToV.

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#33 magnax1
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Demons soulsRenzokucant

THIS

Its so hard that after a while its not even that fun. Its just frustrating. Get half way through a level and die only because theres a freaking trap that you can't even see, and now you have to start over. And guess what? Every time you die it gets harder.

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#34 BPoole96
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Ninja Gaiden Sigma is probably harder on Normal than NG2 or Sigma 2.

Demon's Souls was really tough at first but once I got a hang of things I rarely died. The hardest boss for me was probably the False King

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#35 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="Renzokucant"]Demons soulsmagnax1

THIS

Its so hard that after a while its not even that fun. Its just frustrating. Get half way through a level and die only because theres a freaking trap that you can't even see, and now you have to start over. And guess what? Every time you die it gets harder.

I actually thought this was pretty funny in comical in Demon's Souls. Most games give you hints or something if you get killed but Demon's Souls just get harder and harder until you have Pure Black World Tendency. I never had that happened to me but I can definitely see where some people may give up when they get to the point where every enemy kills you in 1 hit

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#36 majadamus
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Contra 4 and Ikaruga are the toughest games I've played this gen. I'm stuck on the second stage in both of them.
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#37 turtleSHOES
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for the current gen (360, ps3, wii, and PC games that came out 2005+. no handhelds)

what game would you say is the most challenging on its default settings (no higher difficulty settings)

i've rented countless games so far for all 3 systems, and own lots of PC games.

and despite PC gaming being refered to as more hardcore gaming than consoles, i must admit that for this gen Demon's Souls has been the most challenging game i've played without being cheap on its difficulty

if you die its always because you made a mistake. not the way where you expose yourself in a shooter and you get shot from half a mile away from an enemy who spots you and headshots from hip fire. rather its more like you were careless in your approach to attack and maybe didnt switch to proper equipment because you were too lazy to or because you rushed through a corridor instead of scouting for enemies before.

whats your opinion if you have one, and is there another game you would recommend?

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2 games; Demon Souls and Super Mario Galaxy 2.
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#38 Fiotwo
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I dont think anyone has said it but... N+ Trying to beat all 50 of those episodes can drive a person mad...Im still on episode 30 something
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#39 Phazon64
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Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero? gets my vote. The game gives you 1,000 lives at thebeginning for a reason.

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#40 SoNin360
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I'm kind of a pansy when it comes to hard games or games that offer a "very hard" mode or whatever. I've only beaten a few games on the hardest difficulty like inFamous, Resident Evil 5, and maybe a few others. I just don't usually attempt them though. However one I attempted and never got through was Call of Duty World at War on veteran. I think I got to like the 7th or 8th level and just kind of stopped because I figured there was no way in hell I would beat some of the later missions if I even made it to them. The most annoying part of it was the random grenades that appear out of nowhere, and the MGs that can kill you half a second. Most of it consist of you dropping prone and/or hiding behind whatever you can and taking careful shots.
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#41 Decrate
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[QUOTE="magnax1"]

[QUOTE="Renzokucant"]Demons soulsBPoole96

THIS

Its so hard that after a while its not even that fun. Its just frustrating. Get half way through a level and die only because theres a freaking trap that you can't even see, and now you have to start over. And guess what? Every time you die it gets harder.

I actually thought this was pretty funny in comical in Demon's Souls. Most games give you hints or something if you get killed but Demon's Souls just get harder and harder until you have Pure Black World Tendency. I never had that happened to me but I can definitely see where some people may give up when they get to the point where every enemy kills you in 1 hit

luckily, i started playing the game when they did the online promotion of making the world pure white tendency constantly no matter what, its still going on for a few more weeks i think, and then it will shift back and forth. if you play on single player offline, then i can imagine how frustrating it is, because basically, when you die in body form, it shifts towards black tendency and thus makes the game harder, but only when you die in body form, in soul form it doesnt change it. i always play online so i havent experienced black tendency yet, but i want too, cuz when its black, you get more souls and better rewards drop from enemies at the exchange of a harder difficulty
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#42 KeredsBlaze
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probably the last remnant for me, not so much that it is hard, just cheap, the battle system has waaay too much luck involved for the later bosses in the game
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#43 Temporius
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Are we limited to games released in the US? If we are, then DeathSmiles, it by far out does Demon's Souls. If we can use import games, DoDonPachi Dai Ou Jou Black Label EXTRA. That is the final stage on the game's only difficulty level.

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That i've played? Demon's Souls. It's a shame that the current gen. would like an easy button to play the game for them. As if all the generic shooters weren't easy enough.

seanehawk
I can't see the harm in that easy button, so long as it's just optional. People play for different reasons, and I for one don't enjoy games that take my money and kick me in the nuts for it.
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#45 seanehawk
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[QUOTE="seanehawk"]

That i've played? Demon's Souls. It's a shame that the current gen. would like an easy button to play the game for them. As if all the generic shooters weren't easy enough.

AndromedasWake

I can't see the harm in that easy button, so long as it's just optional. People play for different reasons, and I for one don't enjoy games that take my money and kick me in the nuts for it.

Why, what's wrong with a challenge?

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#46 AndromedasWake
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Why, what's wrong with a challenge?seanehawk
I don't always play to be challenged, first of all. Games that help relax after a long day of work are great. Second, a large number of games tend to go over board in trying to obtain "challenge", and end up making the game cheap, frustrating, or player punishing. Or all three, even. (Mario Kart Wii, Ninja Gaiden 2)
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#47 seanehawk
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[QUOTE="seanehawk"]Why, what's wrong with a challenge?AndromedasWake
I don't always play to be challenged, first of all. Games that help relax after a long day of work are great. Second, a large number of games tend to go over board in trying to obtain "challenge", and end up making the game cheap, frustrating, or player punishing. Or all three, even. (Mario Kart Wii, Ninja Gaiden 2)

I do agree with difficulty by being cheap is bad, like broken controls or a bad camera. But there's nothing wrong with a fair challenge.

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#48 AndromedasWake
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I do agree with difficulty by being cheap is bad, like broken controls or a bad camera. But there's nothing wrong with a fair challenge.seanehawk
Shame that a fair challenge is so hard to find these days. Too many games try way too hard to be "hardcore" and end up over doing it. People talk about playing those games and getting some sense of satisfaction, and I just don't get that. I took my licks playing something like Devil May Cry 3, but I always enjoyed it, and I always died because of some screw up I made. Games like Demon's Souls, Ninja Gaiden 2, or Mario Kart Wii though? They tried too hard, they didn't let it come naturally. I couldn't enjoy them, not a bit.
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#49 Gamartto
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The Witcher (at least for me). STALKER. Far Cry 1, the A.I. cheats hardcore.
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