i was playing it yesterday :P
just because it looks aciant that doesnt mean its not fun..:)
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]
[QUOTE="Greyfeld"]
It's not relevant anymore, because people no longer turn to SMB1 when looking for inspiration. Other games have taken it to the next level several times over again. If all record of SMB1 was wiped from the earth, platformers with fantastic gameplay would still exist, because there are hundreds of other good games to reference.
Keep in mind, there's a difference between SMB1 being relevant, and Mario in general being relevant.
Greyfeld
Yeah, because it's not like games still have you collect 100 item X's, jump on enemies to kill them, or have hidden secrets.
And yeah, you're right, no game still turns to SMB when looking for inspiration...
Well, okay, that's just the same franchise. I mean, it's not like other developers still reference the game...
Easter eggs and user-created content don't count. In 20 years, referencing "The cake is a lie" isn't going to mean Portal is relevant.
Oh? What about the fact that all of those games are founded on the same principles that Super Mario Bros. was founded on? Or that they wouldn't exist if Super Mario Bros. disappeared, as you suggested? I told you already, it's incredibly important from a historical perspective because its game design is STILL being used. Yet you flatly deny that without any justification. I think you're standing on very shaky ground, my friend.[QUOTE="djsundowner"][QUOTE="Greyfeld"]
I wasn't aware that one exception makes me wrong.
Nintendo made a rehash of a game within their own franchise. That does not make a 25 year old game relevant in regards to the direction of gamers and growth within the industry.
DarkCatalyst
Freaking LittleBigPlanet! The true return of the 2D platformer to prominence. Built on concepts that were popularized by SMB. 2 million user-made levels declare the formula still has legs.
Mega Man 9 Mega Man 10 Castlevania Rebirth Castlevania: Harmony of Despair Contra Rebirth Hard Corps: Uprising Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Trine Donkey Kong Country Returns Kirby Epic Yarn Super Meat Boy Bionic Commando: Rearmed Bonk: Brink of ExtinctionYes! Some of those have shooting elements but of course! Many of those games are lower-priced downloadable games but that doesn't mean they're any less amazing! The genre is alive and well. LBP and NSMB just showed you can do full retail releases of them as well. And really, theones DC listed are more akin to the original SMB. Archaic.... psshhhht!
Mega Man 9 Mega Man 10 Castlevania Rebirth Castlevania: Harmony of Despair Contra Rebirth Hard Corps: Uprising Sonic The Hedgehog 4 Trine Donkey Kong Country Returns Kirby Epic Yarn Super Meat Boy Bionic Commando: Rearmed Bonk: Brink of Extinction[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"][QUOTE="djsundowner"]
Freaking LittleBigPlanet! The true return of the 2D platformer to prominence. Built on concepts that were popularized by SMB. 2 million user-made levels declare the formula still has legs.
djsundowner
Yes! Some of those have shooting elements but of course! Many of those games are lower-priced downloadable games but that doesn't mean they're any less amazing! The genre is alive and well. LBP and NSMB just showed you can do full retail releases of them as well. And really, theones DC listed are more akin to the original SMB. Archaic.... psshhhht!
The overarching point being that we're living in a 2D Platforming renaissance that would not have been possible without SMB. :)Ah man have I ever played Super Mario Bros. 1? That was the first Nintendo game I had.I played that game day and night, then when I got bored or needed a break, I'd play Duck Hunt. Man those were the days!!
My very first console game, period, was SMB1. I got the NES for Christmas when I was 5 or 6 (1988-89). In fact, I'm old enough to remember seeing SMB1 as an arcade game in an arcade (a thing of the past, now). SMB1 is still quite challenging when I play it on Virtual Console on the Wii.
Of course, it was the second game I ever played in my life. The first was Duck Hunt. And considering the history of gaming, SMB isn't really that old. It would be a lot more impressive if people have been gaming since Pong.
I'm sure the majority of people who had a NES had SMB1 and duck hunt that came with it. I always enjoyed it, then Super Mario Bros 3 came around and it pretty much just gathered dust. Wasn't a huge fan of SMB2 though.
The first time I played it was when I was a kid while I was in hospital for a few weeks. They had a NES with SMB for the kids to play on in hospital. I loved it. Never did find out what castle that damn princess was in though! Back then I was a Sega fan though and I was begging them to bring in my Sega Megadrive to play Sonic instead. Eventually they did and this pleased me greatly. After that I never touched a Mario game or a Nintendo game until the Wii came along.
I played SMB alot,that and Legend of Zelda.Two excellent games.I guess alot of younger gamers dont really have an idea how important these games and the NES really is.It really started a gaming storm that hasnt let up since.Nintendo really bought the gaming industry to a whole other level with the NES.
[QUOTE="Treesmash"]joke topic? You do know that not all of us here is 15-20 years old right? A joke topic? Well I guess I'm just assuming that people posting on a video game forum would be between 15-20, so yeah. I was negative 5 years old when the game came out. I don't think it's crazy to think that most people here haven't played it when it first came out.It's kind of like how everyone says the best movie is Citizen Kane but it's so old now that people our age can't really be affected by it the same way.
The oldest Mario game I've played was 64 and even looking at that now it looks ancient, lol! What about you guys? Have you ever played SMB1 and if not what's your first mario game?
wizdom
[QUOTE="Treesmash"]Why can't you see yourself playing it? The graphics may be 8 bit but with 2D games graphics don't really matter as much (and even if you are so obsessed with graphics the All Star cart does give you graphics on par with the other SNES games which means it still looks pretty good). The gameplay is also still as good as the day the game came out. It doesn't have the powerups that got introduced later in the series but you honestly won't care while playing the game. SMB is, imo, required play for anyone who wants to seriously call themselves a gamer. There's just so much gamer culture that stems from that one game that you're left out of a lot by never having experienced it. On top of that, it pretty much set the standard for every 2D platformer that got released afterward and helped to jump start the industry after the original crash of the 1980s, so it's a pretty significant game too. Well I've never played an 8-bit game ever. I don't think that's out of the question. Wow, some people here are so judgemental. I mean have you played Space Wars or Tennis for Two or Maze Wars? I'm sure there are some people out there that wouldn't consider you a gamer unless you'd played those games. Just chill out man. It's all about perspective.I guess I just can't see myself playing it now anymore. It seems like some of you definitely grew up with it and can recommend it but what about someone who only started video gaming with the N64, could we really enjoy it?
gameguy6700
Are you saying that you started off then when it got hard your mom took over?I grew up with Super Mario Bros. 1 and Duck Hunt. I remember beating Super Mario Bros. 1 with my mom when I was like 4 or 5. I'd play the first couple levels since they were easier and she'd take the end. Fun times.
yokofox33
I enjoyed SMB a lot as a kid, but my old school gaming career really started with Contra, Life Force, Megaman 2, Final Fantasy and River City Ransom. Been at this activity for about 23 years now on August 10th. And there are those who have gamed even longer than I.
Yes I've played it. I still play it from time to time on the Wii or when I hook up my SNES and play All-Stars.
Thats a long time dude. High five![QUOTE="teufelherz"]
I did play it, been gaming for 26 years now. Beat it to death.
rangegear
inorite! almost 31, still gaming and won't stop anytime soon. But I know there are even older people here in the forums, so that's another high five!
Well ... yes, of course. '86 was it? I remember being a little confused by the thumbpad and the fact that there were two buttons instead of one. It was a brilliant experience, a fine game.
What I think is funny is how playable i still find SMB and all of those old 2D sidescrollers--- Ducktales, Mega Man 2, or Chipn Dales rescue rangers anyone?? I see their influence everywhere today, too, how could someone say they arent relevant? LBP, Trine, Braid, Splosion Man, the upcoming Limbo, and many more show that the 2d sidescrolling platformer isnt dead, and each one is a continuation of that legacy. I couldnt be happier; while I love the innovations in polygonal models and "3d" graphics, theres still something great about a 2d sidescroller...
Even funnier is that I really dont find a whole lot of the N64 stuff that playable these days, because were still seeing the refinement of that technology push. Im sure it has something to do with remembering how #@$%#@%%ING excited i was being 5 and playing SMB for the first time, but I think that the NES and SNES stuff holds up alot better today than alot of the N64, PSone games...
Even funnier is that I really dont find a whole lot of the N64 stuff that playable these days, because were still seeing the refinement of that technology push. Im sure it has something to do with remembering how #@$%#@%%ING excited i was being 5 and playing SMB for the first time, but I think that the NES and SNES stuff holds up alot better today than alot of the N64, PSone games...
I couldn't agree more. To me the NES/SNES/Genesis stuff holds mu MUCH better than PS1 and N64.Grrr! Why does everybody do that! Why does everybody on the internet say NES/SNES/Genesis(Megadrive over here)? There was another great 8 bit console other than the NES you know. Sega Master System anyone? Did it really die virtually straight away in the states or something? Over here it remained popular for years. In fact in Europe the Master System outsold the NES. It was a great console, and it really annoys me that it doesn't get the regognition it deserves. I know it wasn't popular in the US for some reason, but come on it's a great enough console for you Americans to at least recognise its existence! Second best Sega console ever IMO.
Grrr! Why does everybody do that! Why does everybody on the internet say NES/SNES/Genesis(Megadrive over here)? There was another great 8 bit console other than the NES you know. Sega Master System anyone? Did it really die virtually straight away in the states or something? Over here it remained popular for years. In fact in Europe the Master System outsold the NES. It was a great console, and it really annoys me that it doesn't get the regognition it deserves. I know it wasn't popular in the US for some reason, but come on it's a great enough console for you Americans to at least recognise its existence! Second best Sega console ever IMO.
burgeg
I've played the Sega Master System. A friend of mine owned it. Not a bad console, but a lot of people didn't even know it existed.
As for the topic itself, Super Mario Brothers was the first game I ever played. My dad brought home an NES and a copy Super Mario Brothers. I was young at the time, and I don't actually have any memories from the day he brought it home, but apparantly I was so absorbed in the game that I refused to get up to use the bathroom... but anyway, great game! My NES lost it's last life a long time ago... but the virtual console brought it back to me. It's an important part of my childhood and still fun to play, but I'm not sure if I can fully recommend it to someone who grew up with more modern titles. It depends on if you can get past the dated graphics or not, which not everyone can. It's also a lot more challenging than newer games, and requires a lot more patience since you need to start the whole game over every time you get game over. Modern gamers can't really tolerate that.
The original SMB wasthe first game I ever put my little paws on. It took a while before I was actually able to get past the first goomba, but once I did, things just clicked. My dad taught me everything I knew, including the 3-1 infinite 1-up trick and the World 8 warp in 4-2. From there, I expanded my horizons to games like Mickey Mousecapade and Jackal.:P
I had a Sega Master System, rather than an NES, when I was growing up, so I was an Alex Kidd fan!
I did play Super Mario Bros. at a friend's house, but I didn't own a copy until I bought it on Wii VC.
Alex Kidd FTW! It really is a travesty that Sega still haven't tried to revive the Alex Kidd franchise. What's it been since his last game, 20 years? Show your original mascot some damn respect Sega!I had a Sega Master System, rather than an NES, when I was growing up, so I was an Alex Kidd fan!
I did play Super Mario Bros. at a friend's house, but I didn't own a copy until I bought it on Wii VC.
misiufraggle
I did, first game I played until my eyes burnt. Then I washed them out and got back to playing until the morning.
What I think is funny is how playable i still find SMB and all of those old 2D sidescrollers--- Ducktales, Mega Man 2, or Chipn Dales rescue rangers anyone?? I see their influence everywhere today, too, how could someone say they arent relevant? LBP, Trine, Braid, Splosion Man, the upcoming Limbo, and many more show that the 2d sidescrolling platformer isnt dead, and each one is a continuation of that legacy. I couldnt be happier; while I love the innovations in polygonal models and "3d" graphics, theres still something great about a 2d sidescroller...
Even funnier is that I really dont find a whole lot of the N64 stuff that playable these days, because were still seeing the refinement of that technology push. Im sure it has something to do with remembering how #@$%#@%%ING excited i was being 5 and playing SMB for the first time, but I think that the NES and SNES stuff holds up alot better today than alot of the N64, PSone games...
amoremono1
The first polygon-based games on the N64 and Playstation generally didn't hold up that well over time. There are a few notable exceptions, of course, but they were really held back by the limits of the graphics chips in those consoles.
The NES had some real gems (and turkeys, of course) but my favorite nostalgic era is still the SNES / Genesis days. I love the look of hand-drawn 16-bit graphics. As a matter of fact, I'm currently playing Fire Emblem (GBA) on my gameboy player, on my gamecube. It's great, I can't believe I've never played it until now.
[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="Treesmash"] Why can't you see yourself playing it? The graphics may be 8 bit but with 2D games graphics don't really matter as much (and even if you are so obsessed with graphics the All Star cart does give you graphics on par with the other SNES games which means it still looks pretty good). The gameplay is also still as good as the day the game came out. It doesn't have the powerups that got introduced later in the series but you honestly won't care while playing the game. SMB is, imo, required play for anyone who wants to seriously call themselves a gamer. There's just so much gamer culture that stems from that one game that you're left out of a lot by never having experienced it. On top of that, it pretty much set the standard for every 2D platformer that got released afterward and helped to jump start the industry after the original crash of the 1980s, so it's a pretty significant game too.Greyfeld
I don't agree, sorry. SMB1 is archaic and isn't relevant to modern day gaming any more than a typewriter is relevant to modern day PCs. Not to say it wasn't a good game for its time, or that people can't enjoy it still, but there's no need to be elitist against those who are younger and/or got involved in gaming at a later time than some of us more experienced gamers.
I would hope, being only 24 years of age, some older gamers wouldn't discriminate against me for not having played the original Pong.
You haven't played Pong? *turns up nose* I would say the game is still relevant. There are a lot of elements in the original Super Mario Brothers that have their fingerprints all over modern gaming. It popularized jumping as a mechanic, exploration as a key element of gameplay, invented the modern platformer and kickstarted obsessive collection of shiny objects as a major focal point (look no further than the Banjo-Kazooie series to see that particular bit's staying power). It certainly is relevant from a historical perspective, from a game design perspective and because it's still entertaining, from a gameplay perspective. I'm having trouble understaind in what way it is not relevant. I was about to write a post extremely similar to this one so I'll just say I second this notion.I couldn't agree more. To me the NES/SNES/Genesis stuff holds mu MUCH better than PS1 and N64.burgeg
Grrr! Why does everybody do that! Why does everybody on the internet say NES/SNES/Genesis(Megadrive over here)? There was another great 8 bit console other than the NES you know. Sega Master System anyone? Did it really die virtually straight away in the states or something? Over here it remained popular for years. In fact in Europe the Master System outsold the NES. It was a great console, and it really annoys me that it doesn't get the regognition it deserves. I know it wasn't popular in the US for some reason, but come on it's a great enough console for you Americans to at least recognise its existence! Second best Sega console ever IMO.
Apologies...I remember the Master System, but never owned one. I had one friend with one, thats it. I thought we were talking about SMB though, so NES titles naturally came to mind. Didnt mean to exclude MS, but i personally invested years more time into the NES/SNES/Genesis consoles. Im sure you can thank some dude in marketing/distributing for that.
Yup, got it on my VC and love it. Never got a chance to play it back then, though, I wasn't even born :P
I played it when it came out. Got me hooked, but my first videogame was Oregon Trail. That game was epic!
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