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#51 imthemostwanted
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dude im 15 and i want MW2 aswell but im just gunna have to wait. u cant always get everything you want so you may aswell get used to it. its how life is. if you're really that desperate play it at your friend's house.
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#52 glassfish8
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all parents are the same with this the video game world is alien to them i have the same problem they cant thell the difference between games or think they are too violnt

so this is what u do go buy the game and get rid of the cover and your parents wont even know u haveit

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#53 glassfish8
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Maybe he doesn't like war games or war generally.Or maybe a family member died in war or something.There's plenty of good reasons why people don't allow war games to kid's.But if it's Alien vs Human(example:Resistance then that's okay)aerial6790

no there are no good reasons normaly my parents are exactly the same it is becase video games are unkown to them or they think their kids will go on a rampage ( that is rediculos)

they just hold these grudges for no reason it is becasue they dont understand so unless of a special circumstance then no it is for no good reason

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#54 glassfish8
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dude im 15 and i want MW2 aswell but im just gunna have to wait. u cant always get everything you want so you may aswell get used to it. its how life is. if you're really that desperate play it at your friend's house.imthemostwanted
thats not the answer you should just go ahed and buy it your parents wont be able to tell that u have got a new game and even if they find out they wont care becasue once u have it they wont mind.

so just get it and all those people who say 14 yearolds are annoying they should be posting on another topic not this

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#55 glassfish8
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[QUOTE="Raikoh_"]

Maybe he's aware of the controversy surrounding MW2 and wouldn't want his kid to be gunning down civilians in an airport....

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That's a pretty legitimate reason. Plus, some would argue that a 14-year-old should be playing games appropriate for his/her age.

lol they wont be

they wont be

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#56 glassfish8
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Your father is doing the right thing as a parent. If he wasn't shielding you from this game, you'd grow up to be a ****ing psycho killer or something. KHAndAnime
your father needs to do reserch before he can make this decision otherwise his view is useless this why he his dad is so wrong becasue he knows nothing about it but is so quick to reject it. it is how they all are dont stress

and realy he will not become a physo killer that i just outragious

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#57 glassfish8
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Ask your dad just exactly what it is about MW2 that he finds objectionable - if he doesn't really know anything about the game then ask him to consider renting it and maybe even playing it with you. Ultimately, as your parent, he should have the final say concerning what you play/watch/etc. at 14 years of age, but his decision not to buy the game for you might be based on ignorance and not facts...67gt500

dude they have no reason if you were to list points there is no logical reason ask andthe answer will besimply because

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all parents are the same with this the video game world is alien to them i have the same problem they cant thell the difference between games or think they are too violntglassfish8


I've been gaming since I was 6 and hope to one day be a father. I've played many games before I should have (Doom II at age 8, Metal Gear Solid and Parasite Eve at age 12 and others) and will definitely screen a game before I let any of my children play them. There is content that is appropriate for children and there is content that is not. No matter how much children think they are being "shielded" there is good reason to do so, at least for a while. There is no reason to desensitize your children at a young age, only introduce them to these things slowly and with full contextualization. Letting them play an overly violent game and not knowing anything about what is going on doesn't help in the least and can only make things worse.

so this is what u do go buy the game and get rid of the cover and your parents wont even know u haveitglassfish8

Yes, because defying his father's wishes will only make the situation better. I have a question, how old are you?

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#59 glassfish8
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the situation will be better becasue his dad wont know he has it ok lol

they cant tell the difference

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#60 glassfish8
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yes there is content not apropriate for children but he is not a child he is 14 what is 1 year going to change if he can deal with it now he can in a years time the same way

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#61 Bino117
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Dude I have to say Modern Warfare 2 is not in any way detrimental to a normal child's development. If an experience as small as shooting a pixilated character is enough to send a child spiraling off the pathway to normal adulthood then chances are they were already going to get screwed up in the head by something else that comes along. I mean seriously.

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#62 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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There are more reasons as to why parents don't let their children play certain games. Reading this thread, you get a sense of ignorance from quite a few folks.

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#65 Ze_Common_Cold
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1) You are a minor and have to respect your father's decision.
2) It might have something to do with the controversial level, why he has decided not to let you play this one, but still have the first.

Once you are 18, you can do as you please. But until then, respect your parent's decision.

And R is different from M. R in the US is more like 16+ in the Europe. NC-17 is like M.

[QUOTE="MasterBolt360"] Why should I have to wait if all of my other friends don't have to?foxhound_fox


Just because your friends can play it, doesn't mean you should be entitled to as well. Your parents make the decisions for you. That's how it is. Everyone had to go through this same process at varying levels.

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Also, there is plenty of other games available on the 360 that you can use your XBLG subsrciption for. Why not just keep playing MW and be happy you even got to play that?

NC-17 is like the M rating? Whaaaaaat? NC-17 is pretty much a flat out porno, no? M is a little broad, example being I could compare Halo to a PG-13 Movie, and some of the worst M games, like say GTAIV and it's DLC, can be correlated to an R rated movie, but even so. I say even to try and convince your dad, maybe rent the game and let him play for a bit? If you're feeling a bit daring, (this is what I did as a kid, when my parents found out, they honestly were suprised and thought M games would be much more) you can go to say your local grocery store, pick up a visa gift card with enough money to pick up MW2 on amazon, order it, and get the package before your dad. I wouldn't recommend it though, as some parents could get really pissed at that kind of behaviour. If all fails, just accept it. The games pretty bad, hopefully your friends notice and put it down after a while.

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#66 92GreenYJ
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[QUOTE="glassfish8"]

the situation will be better becasue his dad wont know he has it ok lol

they cant tell the difference

Yes they can. Trust me your parents know FAR more than you think they do. Parents aren't stupid and as a kid, i hate to break this to you, but YOU do NOT know everything. Not even close. Why don't you quit crying about your mean old parents doing their jobs and looking out for YOUR best interests. There are much worse things they could be doing.
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I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

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I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

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So dad should do what son wants because a) his friends will "ostracize" him otherwise and b) to stop the son from having a temper tantrum at him? I am a father, and I can tell you that the only people who think 14 year olds are mature are 14 year olds. Every parent is different, and if you want to act mature, then do the mature thing and sit him down and discuss it with him like an adult. If you are unable to do that, then you are not yet and adult, and should just deal with the fact that life isn't fair, sometimes your friends do things you don't get to do, and who really cares what your friends think anyways because the day will come when they are no longer your friends. The best way to prove you are a child is to act like a child. If that's what you want, then sure, get it and hide the cover. That'd really help create trust, particularly when he does find out.
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I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

Tokugawa77
and how old are you? while 14 may technically be a teenager, that does not mean that he is mature at this age. If 14 was considered mature, don't you think he would be allowed to do other things by society? Like drive a car, vote, buy ciggarettes or alcohol, join the military, etc? And yet we do not. Why is that? because 14 years old is not considered mature at all. And with good reason.
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

Sparty_basic

So dad should do what son wants because a) his friends will "ostracize" him otherwise and b) to stop the son from having a temper tantrum at him? I am a father, and I can tell you that the only people who think 14 year olds are mature are 14 year olds. Every parent is different, and if you want to act mature, then do the mature thing and sit him down and discuss it with him like an adult. If you are unable to do that, then you are not yet and adult, and should just deal with the fact that life isn't fair, sometimes your friends do things you don't get to do, and who really cares what your friends think anyways because the day will come when they are no longer your friends. The best way to prove you are a child is to act like a child. If that's what you want, then sure, get it and hide the cover. That'd really help create trust, particularly when he does find out.

Well I hate to break it to u dad but parents like u are exactly the kind kids feel they need to rebel against. It's not because your standards are too overprotective but more because they will never feel a sense of respect from you if you keep treating them like they're too immature to make a correct descision even when it has to do with something as insignifigant as a video game. Sometimes parents don't know everything either trust me...

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[QUOTE="glassfish8"]

the situation will be better becasue his dad wont know he has it ok lol

they cant tell the difference

92GreenYJ

Yes they can. Trust me your parents know FAR more than you think they do. Parents aren't stupid and as a kid, i hate to break this to you, but YOU do NOT know everything. Not even close. Why don't you quit crying about your mean old parents doing their jobs and looking out for YOUR best interests. There are much worse things they could be doing.

Depends on the parents honestly. Some will never be able to tell the difference lol. And sometimes being overprotective can be very damaging indeed trust me I have first hand experience. Parents DON'T know everything either bub

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#72 Tokugawa77
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

92GreenYJ

and how old are you? while 14 may technically be a teenager, that does not mean that he is mature at this age. If 14 was considered mature, don't you think he would be allowed to do other things by society? Like drive a car, vote, buy ciggarettes or alcohol, join the military, etc? And yet we do not. Why is that? because 14 years old is not considered mature at all. And with good reason.

Ok lets remember that we are talking about playing avideo game not drinking, doing drugs, or joining the military. sheltering mom's little baby from modern society is just as damaging as exposing them too early.

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#73 rjxtian
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Ok, here's my best shot. Tell your Dad that you respect his decision. Tell him that you will be happy to wait until he thinks you are of an age and/or level of maturity to play MW2. A good attitude alone, might help to change his mind.

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#74 92GreenYJ
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

and how old are you? while 14 may technically be a teenager, that does not mean that he is mature at this age. If 14 was considered mature, don't you think he would be allowed to do other things by society? Like drive a car, vote, buy ciggarettes or alcohol, join the military, etc? And yet we do not. Why is that? because 14 years old is not considered mature at all. And with good reason.

Ok lets remember that we are talking about playing avideo game not drinking, doing drugs, or joining the military. sheltering mom's little baby from modern society is just as damaging as exposing them too early.

Playing a video game centered around blowing peoples heads off. Its rated M for a reason. Granted I agree that sheltering a kid too much is also a bad thing, but knowing when and where to draw the line is a good thing. In my view the kids dad is just being a good parent. Something that is becoming FAR to rare in this day and age
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#75 glassfish8
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[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"][QUOTE="glassfish8"]

the situation will be better becasue his dad wont know he has it ok lol

they cant tell the difference

Bino117

Yes they can. Trust me your parents know FAR more than you think they do. Parents aren't stupid and as a kid, i hate to break this to you, but YOU do NOT know everything. Not even close. Why don't you quit crying about your mean old parents doing their jobs and looking out for YOUR best interests. There are much worse things they could be doing.

Depends on the parents honestly. Some will never be able to tell the difference lol. And sometimes being overprotective can be very damaging indeed trust me I have first hand experience. Parents DON'T know everything either bub

thank you

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#76 Tokugawa77
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"] and how old are you? while 14 may technically be a teenager, that does not mean that he is mature at this age. If 14 was considered mature, don't you think he would be allowed to do other things by society? Like drive a car, vote, buy ciggarettes or alcohol, join the military, etc? And yet we do not. Why is that? because 14 years old is not considered mature at all. And with good reason.92GreenYJ

Ok lets remember that we are talking about playing avideo game not drinking, doing drugs, or joining the military. sheltering mom's little baby from modern society is just as damaging as exposing them too early.

Playing a video game centered around blowing peoples heads off. Its rated M for a reason. Granted I agree that sheltering a kid too much is also a bad thing, but knowing when and where to draw the line is a good thing. In my view the kids dad is just being a good parent. Something that is becoming FAR to rare in this day and age

I guess it is a matter of opinion where you draw the line. However, in my expirience when my parents didnt allow me to play T games until i was 12, not only did that really piss me off, but i was critisized at school for not being allowed to play. Besides, this guy is 14. he's probably already seen pornography and violent R rated movies. How much worse is a videogame, really. modern warfare 2 dosnt even deserve an M rating.

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Why should I have to wait if all of my other friends don't have to?MasterBolt360

Because your dad is not their dad. I know it sucks dude and you may not agree with his logic, but he's the adult. One reason he may not want you playing MW2 is because you're fighting, shooting, killing humans. In Halo and Gears of War, you're fighting aliens. Maybe that's his justification. Maybe he feels that you can watch R rated films because you're not a part of the actions. In a game, you're committing the actions.

It may seem cliche, but when you have kids, you'll probably be the same way.

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[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

Ok lets remember that we are talking about playing avideo game not drinking, doing drugs, or joining the military. sheltering mom's little baby from modern society is just as damaging as exposing them too early.

Tokugawa77

Playing a video game centered around blowing peoples heads off. Its rated M for a reason. Granted I agree that sheltering a kid too much is also a bad thing, but knowing when and where to draw the line is a good thing. In my view the kids dad is just being a good parent. Something that is becoming FAR to rare in this day and age

I guess it is a matter of opinion where you draw the line. However, in my expirience when my parents didnt allow me to play T games until i was 12, not only did that really piss me off, but i was critisized at school for not being allowed to play. Besides, this guy is 14. he's probably already seen pornography and violent R rated movies. How much worse is a videogame, really. modern warfare 2 dosnt even deserve an M rating.

Yes, because gunning down civilians in an airport with a heavy machine gun is just as innocent as Kirby's dreamland.

Seriously, what the hell has happened to logic reasoning?

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Depends on the parents honestly. Some will never be able to tell the difference lol. And sometimes being overprotective can be very damaging indeed trust me I have first hand experience. Parents DON'T know everything either bub

Bino117

You're right, parents don't know everything, but I have to believe that they know more than a 14 year old. The sad fact is that it's not all intelligence most grown-ups are parenting with but experience. When older folks are telling you something, it's not because they know everything but mostly because of an experience they have had or someone they knew had.

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[QUOTE="Sparty_basic"][QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

I hate when i hear about parents being so overprotective. Of course you have to set a line somewhere (i once played world at war with a seven year old...), but if you dont allow your children to participate in cirtan activities at a certan age, then that will actually hinder their success in life. Think of all the social critisizm this guy is expiriencing becuase of his parents. Not to mention it will cuase increased anger towards his parents, and more rebelious behavior. a14year old is a teenager, so why should they be treated like a child?so those who keep telling him to suck it up, just stop and suck on this! (please dont ban me for saying that)

Bino117

So dad should do what son wants because a) his friends will "ostracize" him otherwise and b) to stop the son from having a temper tantrum at him? I am a father, and I can tell you that the only people who think 14 year olds are mature are 14 year olds. Every parent is different, and if you want to act mature, then do the mature thing and sit him down and discuss it with him like an adult. If you are unable to do that, then you are not yet and adult, and should just deal with the fact that life isn't fair, sometimes your friends do things you don't get to do, and who really cares what your friends think anyways because the day will come when they are no longer your friends. The best way to prove you are a child is to act like a child. If that's what you want, then sure, get it and hide the cover. That'd really help create trust, particularly when he does find out.

Well I hate to break it to u dad but parents like u are exactly the kind kids feel they need to rebel against. It's not because your standards are too overprotective but more because they will never feel a sense of respect from you if you keep treating them like they're too immature to make a correct descision even when it has to do with something as insignifigant as a video game. Sometimes parents don't know everything either trust me...

Well, I'm a gamer, so what don't I get? Also, what part of my suggestion of a mature conversation with his father is so difficult? If such a conversation is too tough, then he's not as mature as he thinks he is. Mature isn't being able to do what you want, it's being able to do what you must. And "parents like me", what does that mean? I'm on a gaming board, my kids game, I allow them to game...and I expect them to be able to talk to me. And you know what? They do. They understand that respect isn't just given, it's earned.
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Personally, I love hearing parents do this, especially with X-Box Live out. For several reasons.

1. So the game is Rated M 17+, meaning professionals think it's for people 17 and over. Agreed.

2. If the game is X-Box Live enabled, you hear every swear word, racial slur and sexist statement out there, and to hear ALL that at 14?! Not good.

3. (and this is my main reason, not pointed at the TC) Little kids (14 and under) seem to get a serious amount of balls, and love to trash talk to EVERYONE. I'm 18, and I don't need some 12 or 13 year old kid telling me off for not being as good at a stupid toy as he is. I have school, work, and other stuff to worry about before video games, at 12 or 13, you can sit on your ass and play games all day. Not to mention, when I walk into places little kids (even 15 sometimes...) tend to avoid me because of my size (6 ft 260lbs) out of fear, even though I'm super nice. But as soon as a little 4 foot nothing 100 lb kid has the power of being anonymous, suddenly he's mr. big and tough. Don't get me wrong, not ALL of them are like this, but a LOT of them are, and they TRY to piss most of us older people off by singing, screaming, or calling us out. Some of them have reasons, I've seen players tounge lash little kids for no reason, other than the fact that they are little, but I see more fights started BY little kids then AT little kids.

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[QUOTE="Bino117"]

Depends on the parents honestly. Some will never be able to tell the difference lol. And sometimes being overprotective can be very damaging indeed trust me I have first hand experience. Parents DON'T know everything either bub

Ghost_Face

You're right, parents don't know everything, but I have to believe that they know more than a 14 year old. The sad fact is that it's not all intelligence most grown-ups are parenting with but experience. When older folks are telling you something, it's not because they know everything but mostly because of an experience they have had or someone they knew had.

yes but remember they haven't grown up with video games this is alien to them so their expirience is invalid and a14 year olds is more valid becasue they have grown up with it and have more expirience when it comes to games.

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#83 Black_Knight_00
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The label on the box says M 18+ You don't get the game, case closed.
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#84 Darksonic666
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thats to bad I am about your age and I just got doom 3 so I guess it depends on your parent and their beliefs but dont feel to bad mw2 runs on steam anyway thats the reason I dont have it darn steam

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#85 -ICON-
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on any other day i'd say your dad is over-protective, but in the end he supports you and provides you with everything. Also people have gotten themselves killed over video games (literally) so I understand where hes coming from. My parents were never like that. It sucks yours are. either discreetly get someone else to buy it or just wait.
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#86 Tokugawa77
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[QUOTE="Bino117"]

[QUOTE="Sparty_basic"] So dad should do what son wants because a) his friends will "ostracize" him otherwise and b) to stop the son from having a temper tantrum at him? I am a father, and I can tell you that the only people who think 14 year olds are mature are 14 year olds. Every parent is different, and if you want to act mature, then do the mature thing and sit him down and discuss it with him like an adult. If you are unable to do that, then you are not yet and adult, and should just deal with the fact that life isn't fair, sometimes your friends do things you don't get to do, and who really cares what your friends think anyways because the day will come when they are no longer your friends. The best way to prove you are a child is to act like a child. If that's what you want, then sure, get it and hide the cover. That'd really help create trust, particularly when he does find out. Sparty_basic

Well I hate to break it to u dad but parents like u are exactly the kind kids feel they need to rebel against. It's not because your standards are too overprotective but more because they will never feel a sense of respect from you if you keep treating them like they're too immature to make a correct descision even when it has to do with something as insignifigant as a video game. Sometimes parents don't know everything either trust me...

Well, I'm a gamer, so what don't I get? Also, what part of my suggestion of a mature conversation with his father is so difficult? If such a conversation is too tough, then he's not as mature as he thinks he is. Mature isn't being able to do what you want, it's being able to do what you must. And "parents like me", what does that mean? I'm on a gaming board, my kids game, I allow them to game...and I expect them to be able to talk to me. And you know what? They do. They understand that respect isn't just given, it's earned.

We're not debating whether he should talk with his dad, we're discussing whether minors like the TC should be allowed to play M rated games. It seems to me that having a mature discussion is the first thing that he should do anyway. It would be the first step i would take.

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#87 Tokugawa77
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[QUOTE="Tokugawa77"]

[QUOTE="92GreenYJ"] Playing a video game centered around blowing peoples heads off. Its rated M for a reason. Granted I agree that sheltering a kid too much is also a bad thing, but knowing when and where to draw the line is a good thing. In my view the kids dad is just being a good parent. Something that is becoming FAR to rare in this day and ageTreflis

I guess it is a matter of opinion where you draw the line. However, in my expirience when my parents didnt allow me to play T games until i was 12, not only did that really piss me off, but i was critisized at school for not being allowed to play. Besides, this guy is 14. he's probably already seen pornography and violent R rated movies. How much worse is a videogame, really. modern warfare 2 dosnt even deserve an M rating.

Yes, because gunning down civilians in an airport with a heavy machine gun is just as innocent as Kirby's dreamland.

Seriously, what the hell has happened to logic reasoning?

I never really saw the problem with that mission. It's distastefull to play, yes, but really is it going to alter someones behavior or encourage them to shoot up a real airport? no. people should grow up and stop causing so much damn controversy. That mission is also skippable. aside from that, there's some blood ( but no gore like in world at war or gears of war) which i see no problem with, and some swearing, which i never saw any problem with. This game should be T. that, or loosen up the age restrictions for M rated games, maybe making M be 15+ rather than 18+.

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#88 Ghost_Face
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yes but remember they haven't grown up with video games this is alien to them so their expirience is invalid and a14 year olds is more valid becasue they have grown up with it and have more expirience when it comes to games.

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Uh... no. This is no longer true. I've grown up with video games and my oldest will be in this same age in 3 years. There are definitely parents out there who have the child that is the age of the topic poster. Even with that said, substitute video games for anything else that children believe they can handle, this scenario is in no way unique.

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#89 Sparty_basic
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[QUOTE="Ghost_Face"]

[QUOTE="Bino117"]

Depends on the parents honestly. Some will never be able to tell the difference lol. And sometimes being overprotective can be very damaging indeed trust me I have first hand experience. Parents DON'T know everything either bub

glassfish8

You're right, parents don't know everything, but I have to believe that they know more than a 14 year old. The sad fact is that it's not all intelligence most grown-ups are parenting with but experience. When older folks are telling you something, it's not because they know everything but mostly because of an experience they have had or someone they knew had.

yes but remember they haven't grown up with video games this is alien to them so their expirience is invalid and a14 year olds is more valid becasue they have grown up with it and have more expirience when it comes to games.

Just not true anymore. I've likely been gaming for longer than you've been alive (not an insult, just a guess) so at this point that idea that adults just don't get it is no longer true. As to the issue of whether a 14 year old should be able to play an M rated game, well, no one should know better what a child is ready for than the parent. HOWEVER, it sounds a bit odd that he lets his kid play Gears2 and COD4, but not this newest game. I'd guess that its just an arbitrary decision, and that's too bad.
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#90 quizee
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if your not allowed to play mature games, why did u even get an xbox in the first place, lol everyone knows that most of the must have games for 360 are m rated. shoulda gotta wii i guess

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#91 glassfish8
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[QUOTE="glassfish8"]

[QUOTE="Ghost_Face"]

You're right, parents don't know everything, but I have to believe that they know more than a 14 year old. The sad fact is that it's not all intelligence most grown-ups are parenting with but experience. When older folks are telling you something, it's not because they know everything but mostly because of an experience they have had or someone they knew had.

Sparty_basic

yes but remember they haven't grown up with video games this is alien to them so their expirience is invalid and a14 year olds is more valid becasue they have grown up with it and have more expirience when it comes to games.

Just not true anymore. I've likely been gaming for longer than you've been alive (not an insult, just a guess) so at this point that idea that adults just don't get it is no longer true. As to the issue of whether a 14 year old should be able to play an M rated game, well, no one should know better what a child is ready for than the parent. HOWEVER, it sounds a bit odd that he lets his kid play Gears2 and COD4, but not this newest game. I'd guess that its just an arbitrary decision, and that's too bad.

that is very true but by the sound of what the kid is saying his parents haven't had the expirience.like mine whothe most games they've played is space invaders at an arecade and the fact that he has halo and his dad doesn't mind is another clue if his dad had been gaming like u say u have then he would have taken halo away unless he is a hiporcryt.

so it is quite obvious that his dad has never had much expirience with games (and i know people exactly like this) so before his father jumps to a suddern conclution he should gather information 1st maby check it out at the kids mates house before being so quick to dissaprove of it.

thanks guys Glassfish :)

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Now I am going to ask what a lot of people are just waiting to have someone else ask. Do we really need another whiny 14 year old running around in call of duty?
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[QUOTE="Raikoh_"][QUOTE="MasterBolt360"] I told him it's skipable, which it is.MasterBolt360
How does that make it an ok thing? Just wait 3 years.

Why should I have to wait if all of my other friends don't have to?

Maybe your friends are spoiled.:D I don't know. I had to wait for a while for a game I wanted badly too. Don't worry about it dude. Time flies. Before you know it You'll be graduating high school. Maybe your dad just wants you to wait. Maybe until you're 16 or something.

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#94 Tokugawa77
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Now I am going to ask what a lot of people are just waiting to have someone else ask. Do we really need another whiny 14 year old running around in call of duty?Dreamerdude26

Ummm...14 year olds dont whine (at least most of them) your thinking about those stupid spoiled five year olds who are all too common these days. God they make me want to play the airport mission in modern warfare 2 :twisted:

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Dude you and me are in the same boat, sort of, let me say that. I'm 14, and I don't even have a 360 or a PS3 or a Nintendo Wii even. All of my friends have one, I don't. At least be lucky you've actually got one of those systems. And don't worry, I've never had anything everyone else had either. However, I think it's kind of wrong how you want a game just because it's popular and in the "in-crowd". I don't want a video game because everyone else has it. I want a video game because I want it. I heard good things about it, it looks cool, has got decent reviews and looks appealing. Your dad won't let you get MW2? There's plenty of other games that people play online on the 360, not just that.

Maybe your dad doesn't think you deserve it and for whatever reason doesn't wanna tell you, or maybe he just doesn't want you to spend the money on such game. Maybe if you act more mature and polite he will change his mind. Show him you can handle it. My parents have NO problem with me playing M-Rated games(PC gamer)because they know I can handle it. Discuss with your dad politely and tell him that you know the difference between reality and fiction. If he still says no, then say "Alright, it's fine. Thanks for listening." or something along those lines. He will probably change his mind and if he doesn't, there's always gonna be something new that comes along and you're going to want that just as much as you want MW2 right now.

Trust me.

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1. Theres a difference in watching a Movie with violence in it and playing a game where you participate directly with the violence. 2. You are underage and as a result it's called good parenting. 3. While the game isn't as gory as Say Soldiers of Fortune, it has violence and the very controversial Airport Level which is not intended for non-mature audience. 4. Halo 3 is Rated Teen, Gears of War 2 however is something that isn't. Owning one mature game does not entitle you to more. 5. Again, Most likely due to the mature setting and controversial airport level aswell as your age. 6. Good for you 7. 80% of you friends has ignorant parents and you can spend a XBL gold 12 month card on more then just Modern Warfare 2. My advice, obey your dad and wait until you're old enough. The Game ratings are there for a reason.Treflis

I'm gonna have to disagree with you.

1. A movie and a video game are both fiction: AKA, they are both not real. They both take place on a screen. As long as a person knows it's not real, it shouldn't matter whether it's a movie or a game.

2. Okay, I agree there.

3. Once again, it isn't real. I understand that it'd be bad for a 5 year old to see, but by 14, one is intelligent enough to know the difference between reality and video games(I know I am), unless they have mental issues and will get screwed over by something else anyways.

4. Halo 3 is rated M. And if he canhandle Gears of War/COD4/Halo 3 and if his father is okay with it, there really isn't any reason his dad won't allow him to play any more M rated games unless he just doesn't want it or something.

5. Once again, it isn't real.

6. No comment really..

7. Just because his friend's parents let them play M rated games, it doesn't mean they're ignorant. It just means that they understand that their kids can handle it.

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Having Gears of War 2 and not Modern Warfare 2 truly is brutal. I guess you're gonna have to try your friends or something.

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#98 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Talk to him about it.

You said that he lets you watch R rated films then try to make him see that there is no difference between a film and a game

Just dont argue with him. thats the last thing you want to do

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#99 JonnyEarthquake
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Question TC: how the heck did you get Gears of War then?

If I was you, I`d ask somebody else to buy me the game.

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#100 Donhaz101
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[QUOTE="GeneralHawx"][QUOTE="cyborg100000"]

Just ask random people on the street that look old to buy it for you.

Not the best choice what happens when his dad catches him playing it? Or he checks his achievements?

If he does check his achievements! "There's no salvation In a world where you worship proven fiction And no redemption for a life of servitude You bow and you heed Unhallowed command Your only care is the money we gain"