How did the Gamecube lose to the XBOX? Someone explain to me. How?

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

I agree with this. And to add to this: I'd rather play console versions of many of the games because it's just less of a hassle. I have Windows 7 and Windows 7 does not want to be compatible with a lot of games. And I don't want to have some games work while other don't, and have to use DOS Box for other games even. Plus I have to have updated RAM and video card for the latest games. Or for older games I might have to hunt down some random file online to make it work. Too frustrating for all of that when I could just pop a disc into my XBox instead.

And that is a fantastic list of XBox games, I'd add some more great XBox games to the list that aren't on Gamecube:

• Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Marvel Ultimate Alliance
• MechAssault 1 & 2
• Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2
• Tecmo Arcade Classics
• WWF Raw 1 & 2

Emerald_Warrior

for most games, simply using the compatibility option works fine.

Not even close to "most games". To name a few examples from my PC collection that Windows 7 has issues with: Diablo will install and play but looks like a rainbow puked all over it, Hexen won't install but at least I can play it off of disc. Star Trek Voyager Elite Force will start to play, then just shut down. Neverwinter Nights will install, but won't make it past the load screen. Duke Nukem 1 is just glitchy constantly as it plays. Jazz Jackrabbit won't do a thing but give me an error message. It's at the point where I've just said the hell with it.

here are a few fixes which take about 2 minutes

Diabo - create a bat file that turns off explorer.exe (this consists of about 3 small lines of text)

Hexen, Duke Nukem 1, Jazz Jackrabbit- Dosbox will solve that, and one can get a GUI for it which makes things much easier.

most of my games work fine, either on their own , or with small fixes that take a few minutes, not exactly a big deal.

on-line is what helped the original Xbox. 24.5 Million Vs 21.74. Million for Gamecube. A tiny 3.24 million second place victory for the Xbox. On-line gaming kept MS in the game.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

I agree with this. And to add to this: I'd rather play console versions of many of the games because it's just less of a hassle. I have Windows 7 and Windows 7 does not want to be compatible with a lot of games. And I don't want to have some games work while other don't, and have to use DOS Box for other games even. Plus I have to have updated RAM and video card for the latest games. Or for older games I might have to hunt down some random file online to make it work. Too frustrating for all of that when I could just pop a disc into my XBox instead.

And that is a fantastic list of XBox games, I'd add some more great XBox games to the list that aren't on Gamecube:

• Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Marvel Ultimate Alliance
• MechAssault 1 & 2
• Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2
• Tecmo Arcade Classics
• WWF Raw 1 & 2

Emerald_Warrior

for most games, simply using the compatibility option works fine.

Not even close to "most games". To name a few examples from my PC collection that Windows 7 has issues with: Diablo will install and play but looks like a rainbow puked all over it, Hexen won't install but at least I can play it off of disc. Star Trek Voyager Elite Force will start to play, then just shut down. Neverwinter Nights will install, but won't make it past the load screen. Duke Nukem 1 is just glitchy constantly as it plays. Jazz Jackrabbit won't do a thing but give me an error message. It's at the point where I've just said the hell with it.

I have Windows 7 and old games work fine with my PC.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Next time if you want to stop a troll actually name games so he can shut up.TheKungFool

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Next time if you want to stop a troll actually name games so he can shut up.Shockwave-DASH

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Next time if you want to stop a troll actually name games so he can shut up.Emerald_Warrior

I agree with this.
And that is a fantastic list of XBox games, I'd add some more great XBox games to the list that aren't on Gamecube:

• Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Marvel Ultimate Alliance
• MechAssault 1 & 2
• Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2
• Tecmo Arcade Classics
• WWF Raw 1 & 2

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

thanks for the advice big brother, but I'm not really worried about "stopping him" or whatever, nor was I about to post a list of games like the guy a few posts above did that doesn't actually make the point (because its a pretty weak list)

its actually fairly true that the Xbox's best titles were often ports, multiplats, or also on PC.
but that doesn't make it not worth owning.

Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: KotOR II: Sith Lords
Deus Ex Invisible War
Thief III Deadly Shadows
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Sudeki
Halo Combat Evolved
Half Life 2
Chronicles of Riddick

those were the games I owned on Xbox, and I really don't care which of them are/aren't on PC or another platform.

TheKungFool

becuz the xbox haz better graphics srsly it had far cry, an awesim onlien service, much moar games and support, dvd playpack and cds, modding, halo soo thats it

halo kids.

halo kids.

quebec946

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] See this hurts me, even the Xbox defenders don't know that the Xbox has more than just ports and has more exclusives than the Gamecube. Lol in 2003 the Xbox has more exclusives than the PC.Shockwave-DASH

Metroid Prime > Xbox titles.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

1) poeple's personal opinion shouldn't "hurt you", relax, they're just video games bro.

2) I'm not an "Xbox defender", I mearly made a point about what games I liked that made the system worth owning for me

3) "more" exclusives doesn't directly translate into "better exclusives", so its not really an strong point you're making IMO

4) my point was simply that since I don't enjoy gaming on PC, the xbox was a pretty cool system with some pretty cool games. I really don't care about your rediculous "exclusives" debate to be perfectly honest *shrugs*

Seabas989

Metroid Prime > Xbox titles.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] THe majority are rated higher than Gamecube exclusives, so yes it's a strong point.Shockwave-DASH

Metroid Prime > Xbox titles.

PGR 1 and 2, NG and NGB are ones I can think of at the moment. Not that it matters since Metroid Prime is greater then them.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

Metroid Prime > Xbox titles.

Seabas989

PGR 1 and 2, NG and NGB are ones I can think of at the moment. Not that it matters since Metroid Prime is greater then them.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Name 20 Xbox exclusives.Shockwave-DASH

PGR 1 and 2, NG and NGB are ones I can think of at the moment. Not that it matters since Metroid Prime is greater then them.

When did I say they were bad? And yes I have played games on the Xbox.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

PGR 1 and 2, NG and NGB are ones I can think of at the moment. Not that it matters since Metroid Prime is greater then them.

Seabas989

When did I say they were bad? And yes I have played games on the Xbox.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] How can you say Xbox titles are bad when you haven'tplayed any XBOX titles?Shockwave-DASH

When did I say they were bad? And yes I have played games on the Xbox.

I played many Xbox timed exclusives before they were ported to the PC. I don't consider games like Morrowind and KOTOR Xbox exclsuive because the PC is a system too that had the betetr versions.

And yes, Metroid Prime > Halo and Halo 2 and I did play all three. Granted I loved Combat Evolved but that Library Level sucked. Easily one of the worst levels I ever encountered in an fps. Not to mention the level design in the last part of the game was terrible. Halo 2 was good but a dispapointment. Granted it's subjective but I'll take the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

When did I say they were bad? And yes I have played games on the Xbox.

Seabas989

I played many Xbox timed exclusives before they were ported to the PC. I don't consider games like Morrowind and KOTOR Xbox exclsuive because the PC is a system too that had the betetr versions.

And yes, Metroid Prime > Halo and Halo 2 and I did play all three. Granted I loved Combat Evolved but that Library Level sucked. Easily one of the worst levels I ever encountered in an fps. Not to mention the level design in the last part of the game was terrible. Halo 2 was good but a dispapointment. Granted it's subjective but I'll take the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Ok. it seemd like you implied that. Off of that, did you play Xbox only exclusives? and You think Metroid Prime>Halo? Don't see that often.Shockwave-DASH

I played many Xbox timed exclusives before they were ported to the PC. I don't consider games like Morrowind and KOTOR Xbox exclsuive because the PC is a system too that had the betetr versions.

And yes, Metroid Prime > Halo and Halo 2 and I did play all three. Granted I loved Combat Evolved but that Library Level sucked. Easily one of the worst levels I ever encountered in an fps. Not to mention the level design in the last part of the game was terrible. Halo 2 was good but a dispapointment. Granted it's subjective but I'll take the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

All three systems last gen had timed exclusives from halo to GTA to RE4. And the PC had the superior versions. To me the Xbox's best games minus the PGR series, Forza, Ninja Gaiden and DOA series had betetr versions on the PC. That is one of the reaosns why I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

I played many Xbox timed exclusives before they were ported to the PC. I don't consider games like Morrowind and KOTOR Xbox exclsuive because the PC is a system too that had the betetr versions.

And yes, Metroid Prime > Halo and Halo 2 and I did play all three. Granted I loved Combat Evolved but that Library Level sucked. Easily one of the worst levels I ever encountered in an fps. Not to mention the level design in the last part of the game was terrible. Halo 2 was good but a dispapointment. Granted it's subjective but I'll take the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

Seabas989

All three systems last gen had timed exclusives from halo to GTA to RE4. And the PC had the superior versions. To me the Xbox's best games minus the PGR series, Forza, Ninja Gaiden and DOA series had betetr versions on the PC. That is one of the reaosns why I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Timed exclusives are not exclusives. It's not fair to compare Xbox timed exclusives to Gamecube exclusives when there are plenty of Decent to high rated Xbox only exclusives.Shockwave-DASH

All three systems last gen had timed exclusives from halo to GTA to RE4. And the PC had the superior versions. To me the Xbox's best games minus the PGR series, Forza, Ninja Gaiden and DOA series had betetr versions on the PC. That is one of the reaosns why I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best.

GS?

Odd? Not really since many of the GC exclusives are incredible. Windwaker, Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Rogue Squadron 2, the ebst version of RE4 at the time, REmake, SSBM, Super Mario Sunshine, and a couple others are all impressive. Not to mention at least the GC had some JRPGs and Nintendo 1st party titles. The overall quality is impressive even if it had less exclusives (although many of the Xbox's best games ended up on the PC).

I will concede that the Xbox had for the most part superior multiplats but then I bring up the PC and I look at the better versions of those multiplats.

To put it simply: PC>PS2>GC>Xbox.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

All three systems last gen had timed exclusives from halo to GTA to RE4. And the PC had the superior versions. To me the Xbox's best games minus the PGR series, Forza, Ninja Gaiden and DOA series had betetr versions on the PC. That is one of the reaosns why I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best.

Seabas989

GS?

Odd? Not really since many of the GC exclusives are incredible. Windwaker, Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Rogue Squadron 2, the ebst version of RE4 at the time, REmake, SSBM, Super Mario Sunshine, and a couple others are all impressive. Not to mention at least the GC had some JRPGs and Nintendo 1st party titles. The overall quality is impressive even if it had less exclusives (although many of the Xbox's best games ended up on the PC).

I will concede that the Xbox had for the most part superior multiplats but then I bring up the PC and I look at the better versions of those multiplats.

To put it simply: PC>PS2>GC>Xbox.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Yet most of its highest rated library not on GS is its exclusives. Not it's ports, and since the XBOX has more exclusives than the GC, I find it odd people try and use GC exclusives as an argument and claim the XBOX only has PC port. THe GC and XBOX are good, better than PS2 even in MOST ways, at the time.But comapre the fairly. GC barely had third-party support compared to XBOX and PS2.Shockwave-DASH

GS?

Odd? Not really since many of the GC exclusives are incredible. Windwaker, Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Rogue Squadron 2, the ebst version of RE4 at the time, REmake, SSBM, Super Mario Sunshine, and a couple others are all impressive. Not to mention at least the GC had some JRPGs and Nintendo 1st party titles. The overall quality is impressive even if it had less exclusives (although many of the Xbox's best games ended up on the PC).

I will concede that the Xbox had for the most part superior multiplats but then I bring up the PC and I look at the better versions of those multiplats.

To put it simply: PC>PS2>GC>Xbox.

:lol:

Yet they were still better on the PC and the PC still had the best of those titles. Far Cry on PC is a great example.

Halo 1 was ported to the PC and had online. To this day there are servers still running. Halo 2 came in 2007 so I'll give u Halo 2 as it was released this gen on PC.

Morrowind and KOTOR both are superior on the PC. Are you really bringing up Blinx? The Tom Clancey games were best on PC much like COD1 and UO were better then those COD spinoffs.

PGR1 and 2 are great games and are some of my favorite games on the Xbox. Forza was ok but I'm not into sim racers. Where were the JRPGs?

If you want to bring up critically acclaim, then I can bring up that some of the highest rated exclusives are on the GC. More does not always equal better as a site like GS gave 3 GOTYs to GC games.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

GS?

Odd? Not really since many of the GC exclusives are incredible. Windwaker, Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime 1 and 2, Tales of Symphonia, Baten Kaitos, Rogue Squadron 2, the ebst version of RE4 at the time, REmake, SSBM, Super Mario Sunshine, and a couple others are all impressive. Not to mention at least the GC had some JRPGs and Nintendo 1st party titles. The overall quality is impressive even if it had less exclusives (although many of the Xbox's best games ended up on the PC).

I will concede that the Xbox had for the most part superior multiplats but then I bring up the PC and I look at the better versions of those multiplats.

To put it simply: PC>PS2>GC>Xbox.

Seabas989

:lol:

Yet they were still better on the PC and the PC still had the best of those titles. Far Cry on PC is a great example.

Halo 1 was ported to the PC and had online. To this day there are servers still running. Halo 2 came in 2007 so I'll give u Halo 2 as it was released this gen on PC.

Morrowind and KOTOR both are superior on the PC. Are you really bringing up Blinx? The Tom Clancey games were best on PC much like COD1 and UO were better then those COD spinoffs.

PGR1 and 2 are great games and are some of my favorite games on the Xbox. Forza was ok but I'm not into sim racers. Where were the JRPGs?

If you want to bring up critically acclaim, then I can bring up that some of the highest rated exclusives are on the GC. More does not always equal better as a site like GS gave 3 GOTYs to GC games.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Ok, now your trying to sneak in ignorance. Not even close to most of its games went to PC. Most of it's critically acclimed or high acclimed games were exclusives, and most PC Xbox games came from PC not the other way around. Where PGR on PC? Fuzion Frenzy? 2 Exclusive TOm clany raibow six games? Black arrow and Critical hour? Not to mention it has more exclusive tom clancy game as well. Blinkx series? Forza? Halo? NG and NGB? TOe Jam 3? JJet Grind radio future? Steel Battalion series? AMPED???? ETC.????????? ETC.??????????????? Yikes. Also SMS is average rated universally.Shockwave-DASH

:lol:

Yet they were still better on the PC and the PC still had the best of those titles. Far Cry on PC is a great example.

Halo 1 was ported to the PC and had online. To this day there are servers still running. Halo 2 came in 2007 so I'll give u Halo 2 as it was released this gen on PC.

Morrowind and KOTOR both are superior on the PC. Are you really bringing up Blinx? The Tom Clancey games were best on PC much like COD1 and UO were better then those COD spinoffs.

PGR1 and 2 are great games and are some of my favorite games on the Xbox. Forza was ok but I'm not into sim racers. Where were the JRPGs?

If you want to bring up critically acclaim, then I can bring up that some of the highest rated exclusives are on the GC. More does not always equal better as a site like GS gave 3 GOTYs to GC games.

I don't have to really. You brought up critically acclaimed first not me. I'm just saying at GS, the GC won 3 GOTYs and that the GC has highly rated exclusives. Now if I were to post Metacritic or gamerankings then that can help and hurt but at the end of the day those sites are flawed as not every rating system is the same. Plus some reviews are poorly written.

I'll say this, if I ever owned an Xbox 1 today, I'll probably only get at most about 5 games. With the GC, about 20. There are 6 games on the GC that I can say trump the Xbox's best: Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Windwaker, RE4, SSBM and Eternal Darkness. Only games on the Xbox that comes close to those 6 are Halo CE, which I already mentioned has issues, KOTOR which was great but a little overrated, PGR2 and NGB. Even if the PC didn't exist, I'd still pick the GC over the Xbox.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

thanks for the advice big brother, but I'm not really worried about "stopping him" or whatever, nor was I about to post a list of games like the guy a few posts above did that doesn't actually make the point (because its a pretty weak list)

its actually fairly true that the Xbox's best titles were often ports, multiplats, or also on PC.
but that doesn't make it not worth owning.

Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: KotOR II: Sith Lords
Deus Ex Invisible War
Thief III Deadly Shadows
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Sudeki
Halo Combat Evolved
Half Life 2
Chronicles of Riddick

those were the games I owned on Xbox, and I really don't care which of them are/aren't on PC or another platform.

TheKungFool

I agree with this.
And that is a fantastic list of XBox games, I'd add some more great XBox games to the list that aren't on Gamecube:

• Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
• Fable
• Jade Empire
• Marvel Ultimate Alliance
• MechAssault 1 & 2
• Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2
• Tecmo Arcade Classics
• WWF Raw 1 & 2

Oh yeah, Arx Fatalis was great. One thing that really bugged me about the game, though, (and I don't know if the same thing is true for the PC version or not), is the lack of music. It had a great use of sound effects, but no music is a big no-no in games. Video games are supposed to be a mixture of the visual of the audio. But like I said, still a great game.

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

:lol:

Yet they were still better on the PC and the PC still had the best of those titles. Far Cry on PC is a great example.

Halo 1 was ported to the PC and had online. To this day there are servers still running. Halo 2 came in 2007 so I'll give u Halo 2 as it was released this gen on PC.

Morrowind and KOTOR both are superior on the PC. Are you really bringing up Blinx? The Tom Clancey games were best on PC much like COD1 and UO were better then those COD spinoffs.

PGR1 and 2 are great games and are some of my favorite games on the Xbox. Forza was ok but I'm not into sim racers. Where were the JRPGs?

If you want to bring up critically acclaim, then I can bring up that some of the highest rated exclusives are on the GC. More does not always equal better as a site like GS gave 3 GOTYs to GC games.

Seabas989

I don't have to really. You brought up critically acclaimed first not me. I'm just saying at GS, the GC won 3 GOTYs and that the GC has highly rated exclusives. Now if I were to post Metacritic or gamerankings then that can help and hurt but at the end of the day those sites are flawed as not every rating system is the same. Plus some reviews are poorly written.

I'll say this, if I ever owned an Xbox 1 today, I'll probably only get at most about 5 games. With the GC, about 20. There are 6 games on the GC that I can say trump the Xbox's best: Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Windwaker, RE4, SSBM and Eternal Darkness. Only games on the Xbox that comes close to those 6 are Halo CE, which I already mentioned has issues, KOTOR which was great but a little overrated, PGR2 and NGB. Even if the PC didn't exist, I'd still pick the GC over the Xbox.

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] If you compare exclusive ratings the Xbox will win bring up socres if you dare.Shockwave-DASH

I don't have to really. You brought up critically acclaimed first not me. I'm just saying at GS, the GC won 3 GOTYs and that the GC has highly rated exclusives. Now if I were to post Metacritic or gamerankings then that can help and hurt but at the end of the day those sites are flawed as not every rating system is the same. Plus some reviews are poorly written.

I'll say this, if I ever owned an Xbox 1 today, I'll probably only get at most about 5 games. With the GC, about 20. There are 6 games on the GC that I can say trump the Xbox's best: Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Windwaker, RE4, SSBM and Eternal Darkness. Only games on the Xbox that comes close to those 6 are Halo CE, which I already mentioned has issues, KOTOR which was great but a little overrated, PGR2 and NGB. Even if the PC didn't exist, I'd still pick the GC over the Xbox.

:lol::lol::lol:

Halo 1 and 2

KOTOR1 and 2

Ninja Gaiden and NGB

Panzer Dragoon Orta

Fable

Dead or Alive 3

Forza

PGR1 and 2

Conker

Burnout 3 and Revenge

ESPN 2K5

Splinter Cell/Pandora tomorrow/Chaos theory

Ghost Recon/Island Thunder/2

I can go on and on. What exactly are you trying to do? Some of the games I listed are better on the PC. Some are exclusive. But at the end of the day I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

Besides from what I read your thread is pointless. You might as well change the topic title to "Xbox>GC."

But I'll add to my answer a while back.

Xbox won because:

• Halo
• Xbox live
• overall better versions of multiplats then the GC
• DVD support

GC was destined to fail because:

• the N64 killed all 3rd party support that Nintendo had from the SNES
• mini discs
• menory cards that did not have a lot of blocks
• no online
• bad image of being a purple lunchbox
• no GTA

There I explained it to you. I have nothing else to add. You can continue to call me ignorant cause I find that hilarious. :lol:

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

I don't have to really. You brought up critically acclaimed first not me. I'm just saying at GS, the GC won 3 GOTYs and that the GC has highly rated exclusives. Now if I were to post Metacritic or gamerankings then that can help and hurt but at the end of the day those sites are flawed as not every rating system is the same. Plus some reviews are poorly written.

I'll say this, if I ever owned an Xbox 1 today, I'll probably only get at most about 5 games. With the GC, about 20. There are 6 games on the GC that I can say trump the Xbox's best: Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2, Windwaker, RE4, SSBM and Eternal Darkness. Only games on the Xbox that comes close to those 6 are Halo CE, which I already mentioned has issues, KOTOR which was great but a little overrated, PGR2 and NGB. Even if the PC didn't exist, I'd still pick the GC over the Xbox.

Seabas989

:lol::lol::lol:

Halo 1 and 2

KOTOR1 and 2

Ninja Gaiden and NGB

Panzer Dragoon Orta

Fable

Dead or Alive 3

Forza

PGR1 and 2

Conker

Burnout 3 and Revenge

ESPN 2K5

Splinter Cell/Pandora tomorrow/Chaos theory

Ghost Recon/Island Thunder/2

I can go on and on. What exactly are you trying to do? Some of the games I listed are better on the PC. Some are exclusive. But at the end of the day I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

Besides from what I read your thread is pointless. You might as well change the topic title to "Xbox>GC."

But I'll add to my answer a while back.

Xbox won because:

• Halo
• Xbox live
• overall better versions of multiplats then the GC
• DVD support

GC was destined to fail because:

• the N64 killed all 3rd party support that Nintendo had from the SNES
• mini discs
• menory cards that did not have a lot of blocks
• no online
• bad image of being a purple lunchbox
• no GTA

There I explained it to you. I have nothing else to add. You can continue to call me ignorant cause I find that hilarious. :lol:

[QUOTE="Seabas989"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] You don;t even know the Xbox's best, you don;t even know any of its exclusives if you have no real experience with the library than your whole opinion is flawed logic. It's like me saig all the GC had was SMS,RE4< and METROID PRIME, with a bunch of Dreamcast Ports. See? Makes just as much sense as what you're doing. So thank you for basically just being ignorant.Shockwave-DASH

:lol::lol::lol:

Halo 1 and 2

KOTOR1 and 2

Ninja Gaiden and NGB

Panzer Dragoon Orta

Fable

Dead or Alive 3

Forza

PGR1 and 2

Conker

Burnout 3 and Revenge

ESPN 2K5

Splinter Cell/Pandora tomorrow/Chaos theory

Ghost Recon/Island Thunder/2

I can go on and on. What exactly are you trying to do? Some of the games I listed are better on the PC. Some are exclusive. But at the end of the day I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

Besides from what I read your thread is pointless. You might as well change the topic title to "Xbox>GC."

But I'll add to my answer a while back.

Xbox won because:

• Halo
• Xbox live
• overall better versions of multiplats then the GC
• DVD support

GC was destined to fail because:

• the N64 killed all 3rd party support that Nintendo had from the SNES
• mini discs
• menory cards that did not have a lot of blocks
• no online
• bad image of being a purple lunchbox
• no GTA

There I explained it to you. I have nothing else to add. You can continue to call me ignorant cause I find that hilarious. :lol:

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="Seabas989"]

:lol::lol::lol:

Halo 1 and 2

KOTOR1 and 2

Ninja Gaiden and NGB

Panzer Dragoon Orta

Fable

Dead or Alive 3

Forza

PGR1 and 2

Conker

Burnout 3 and Revenge

ESPN 2K5

Splinter Cell/Pandora tomorrow/Chaos theory

Ghost Recon/Island Thunder/2

I can go on and on. What exactly are you trying to do? Some of the games I listed are better on the PC. Some are exclusive. But at the end of the day I would pick the GC's best over the Xbox's best anytime.

Besides from what I read your thread is pointless. You might as well change the topic title to "Xbox>GC."

But I'll add to my answer a while back.

Xbox won because:

• Halo
• Xbox live
• overall better versions of multiplats then the GC
• DVD support

GC was destined to fail because:

• the N64 killed all 3rd party support that Nintendo had from the SNES
• mini discs
• menory cards that did not have a lot of blocks
• no online
• bad image of being a purple lunchbox
• no GTA

There I explained it to you. I have nothing else to add. You can continue to call me ignorant cause I find that hilarious. :lol:

Seabas989

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] You proved my point. You barely played any XBOX exclusives, and only played PC ports because your ignorant and you think that's all it has. Yet you did the opposite for the gamecube. Youy have no valid comparison. Come back when you played games. Or I guess all the Gamecube has is RE4, Windwake and DC ports, some are better on DC? I didn't think so.Shockwave-DASH

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Seabas989

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] THat was a terrible cop-out. Little baby can't read 3 sentences at 3rd grade level?Shockwave-DASH

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Seabas989

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Can't read one sentence on a first game level now?Shockwave-DASH

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Seabas989

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Kindergarden level?Shockwave-DASH

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Seabas989

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[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] Ah but your out of gifs. So I guess third year in prescool then.Shockwave-DASH

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this may sound absurd, but do you think the disc type was a factor?

I hoenstly remember some people being negatvie and skeptical of those smaller discs (I'm being serious)

Samslayer

The discs just seemed novelty to me, which turned me off even more to the system. I kept thinking if some PSX RPGs were 4 conventional discs, what would that be on the gamecube, 7, 8 discs? Obviously not knowing much at the time...

Can someone tell me if there was actually a benefit to having the smaller discs, RPMs or something, besides the novelty factor?

I've wondered if maybe they were smaller to accomodate the smaller hands of young children. I don't know if that's the case, but it crossed my mind.