I don't understand why so many people hate Call of Duty.

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#51 Smokescreened84
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I don't hate the COD/Halo/other generic shooters because of popularity, I hate them because they're bland, boring, generic games that bring nothing new to an industry which is suffering from a lack of imagination. Every shooter is the same tired game and has been for over a decade, always the same boring 'man kill many in war' nonsense that caters to those who can't think beyond 'me have gun, me go boom boom' and find games like Tetrisand Pac Man to be too complicated to grasp.

War time shooters became stale over a decade ago and they're even worse today.

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#52 Islandbeats
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I like COD mainly because everyone I know has it. It's always more fun playing games with friends.
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#53 morrowindnic
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The game is terrible and is just being millked out. Yet people still buy it. I don't understand why. The gameplay sucks, the engine sucks, hell even the story sucks, and is way over the top. $15 for a map pack that should be free. How could anyone like this crap? Other FPSes are much more fun and fluid. This game runs like crap, and is just frustrating. There is no fun in it.

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#54 OmenIWF
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1) The franchise is being used as a cash cow now with a game released every year, followed a few weeks/months later by map packs which are excessively priced, and then there are the different editions of the game, and in general the feeling that the publishers are more interested in raking in more money than they are the actual quality.

2) Quality is a major factor, there is a general lack of quality, don't get me wrong I amnot saying the quality is poor, what I am saying is that the quality of the franchise is static, they are not getting any worse but neither are they getting that much better with each installment and they need to with so many other FPS games available on the market if they want to keep their place as the top game around.

3) Online multiplayer needs to be improved, the perks system is getting out of control, and in the past with some titles, so has the cheating, they need to reign it all in, and make a system where the best are not hamstrung with new players in their team, and new players are not cannon fodder for the upper tier of players, but not compromising gameplay or the addictiveness of online play.

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#55 Vexx88
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I don't hate the game itself. I hate what the game does to other companies and people.
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#56 cyborg100000
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I don't hate it, I tire of playing it; but the game hasn't changed much since the first one. The first being the one I grew tired of after a year. If some masterpiece of a game was rehashed every year I'd turn against that too. Just so happens to be CoD.

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#57 Sides
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The amount of people who play this and nothing else...

Games like this also stopped me playing online, its not really fun at all.

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#58 nameless12345
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It's a trend to hate on CoD. For me it's just an average and overhyped shooter series.

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#59 UpInFlames
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The best indicator of the series' quality is its commercial success. That's a fair rebuttal of IGN right there.Elraptor

Commercial success is indicative of popularity, not quality. If your claim had any merit that would mean Wii Fit is be the best game ever and something like Amnesia is s***.

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#60 theswede88
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I don't hate CoD tbh, Iv played the game sense it came out the first time with the WW2 packed's..

I can in away see why people blaming it for destorying FPS gaming, but at the same time they had such a high roll on the game so they diden't want to change anything that are giving them the money... It came out fast and they knew that it would keep selling for them...

When COD4 came out i rly enjoyed the game, it was fun, new for CoD and the online was rly good, Black Ops came and I still like this, but im jumping from CoD to BF, but I guess...

But as It looks atm, CoD might get a tuff compentison as BF3 looks rly well, if they pull out with a rly good online system im deffo looking forward to play that game!

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#61 dirtydishko2
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I appreciate everyone's comments, and I appreciate that this has remained a civil debate. Now, two things:

I hate it because it embodies everything that's wrong with the industry these days. Yearly sequel rehashes, overpriced DLC, overly linear/scripted gameplay, and a excessive reliance on generic multiplayer to increase the longevity of the title. It doesn't help that multiplayer is populated by the bottom feeders of the videogame audience.DJ_Lae

The COD franchise is.... a billion dollar industry. Once a game begins to make this much money, the publisher, which exists as a money making business, will 100% of the time proceed to produce yearly sequels and DLC. It is, quite simply inevitable. Trying to blame Activision or Call of Duty for the over exposure is like blaming the sky for being blue. I guarantee you that ANY franchise will inevitably turn out this way once it begins to generate 1 Billion + dollars. That is simply a fact, not a reflection upon the developer or publisher.

I have fun with Call of Duty, especially Black Ops. I'm not expecting to be blown away. It's the equivalent of a popcorn flick. You play it simply to be entertained. COD may not push things forward, but it does what it does very well, and people buy it in record numbers. romans828_2002

You my friend have gotten right to the point, I believe. I think too many gamers have this mis-guided notion that every game must be an art form which constantly evolves and moves forward and pushes the boundaries of gaming. While games can absolutely be considered an art form to some extent, the bottom line is that games are played because they are fun. And apparently, a crapload of people think the COD multiplayer is just downright fun. COD4 was innovative and did evolve the genre. It has since settled into it's formula of success, where it continues to satisfy most gamers. End of story.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is this...."Take it for what it is". Modern Warfare is simply a fun fast paced multiplayer shooter. It has unarguably achieved a (temporary or not) pretty solid formula for competitive online gaming. It just really bugs me when people want to make COD out to be a "sign of the times" or a "symbol of what's wrong with people today" or "the end of the FPS genre". It's not that serious. It's just a really fun game that most people agree is very entertaining. I give Jason and Vince props.

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#62 Calvin079
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[QUOTE="Stratacoustix"]#2. Money. It makes tons of money yet the developer still feels the need to charge too much for map packs, usually at the same price point of an expansion that brings alot more content then maps alone do.bluezy
Blame Activision for that one, not Infinity Ward or Treyarch. That money-grab philosophy drove Guitar Hero into the ground in only a couple of years and will probably do the same to Call of Duty.

we can only hope! :D

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#63 hrt_rulz01
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I hate it because Activision are greedy & all they care about is selling map packs. Plus the SP sucks.
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#64 Calvin079
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^ What they ought to do, is instead of having a Campaign is have a Single player mode where you can play against AI bots that you can adjust the difficulty settings on. In other words, focus solely on MP.

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#65 Islandbeats
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^ They have that. Its called Combat Training.
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#66 kfjl
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There's different reasons people hate on it. I don't hate the game (the CoD games I've played I liked quite a bit, actually) as much as I hate people so willingly forking over $60 every year for a new CoD game and more money not long after that for map packs. I'm not sure I like Activision but at the same time, they're just a business that is filling customer demand. I just wish the customers would demand something different.
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#67 UntraceableHaze
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I love it, funny as hell. Piss off every single person you kill with akimbo rangers. I have fun playing it, and raging johnnies only extend the value :)
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#68 Calvin079
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^ They have that. Its called Combat Training.Islandbeats
Thats Training. I'm talking about playing a full match on an MP map, you set the terms and conditions, and set hopw many bots you want to play against in that MP setting.

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#69 XiaolinPrincess
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I heard from people that CoD is too repetitive. So are other games...
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#70 Islandbeats
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[QUOTE="Islandbeats"]^ They have that. Its called Combat Training.Calvin079

Thats Training. I'm talking about playing a full match on an MP map, you set the terms and conditions, and set hopw many bots you want to play against in that MP setting.

You can do all of what you just said in Combat Training. Its basically multiplayer with bots. What more do you want?
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#71 JayQproductions
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because people will always hate the popular thing just because it's popular

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#72 Calvin079
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[QUOTE="Calvin079"]

[QUOTE="Islandbeats"]^ They have that. Its called Combat Training.Islandbeats

Thats Training. I'm talking about playing a full match on an MP map, you set the terms and conditions, and set hopw many bots you want to play against in that MP setting.

You can do all of what you just said in Combat Training. Its basically multiplayer with bots. What more do you want?

It always seemed to me that Training was just you learning the controls and weapons. (I don't have the console versions). I didn't realize that the console had MP like that.

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#73 koospetoors
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I don't really hate CoD, I hate the soulless games that are just carbon copies of it (looking at you Homefront, nice concept destroyed by the fact that the SP is like CoD: Korean invaders deluxe).

Just read the article, I agree with most of the things the writer said, but I don't like the fact that he highlights Battlefield 3 as our only hope when it comes to FPS games, theres quite a handful of potentially great (and different) FPS's coming out that might just do something good for the genre (Rage, Bioshock: Infinite or Prey 2, just to name a few).

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#74 edgewalker16
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I don't hate the game...just the people that don't shut up about it.

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#75 wwefanforlife
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I don't really care for the series I just think it's overrated. The only thing I find annoying about Call of Duty are the fans that claim to be a game everyone must own and claim that it's the best game ever when clearly it's those people who only play Call of Duty and nothing else.

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#76 KlepticGrooves
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I neither hate it nor love it. The only thing I dislike is the morons who clutter games here and there.

Recently bought Black Ops having previously said I wouldn't and to be honest I'm enjoying it. Haven't had a bad/frustrating game so far and it generally feels like a better game.

No reason to hate on a game. More often than not it's the community that you actually hate, not the game itself.

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#77 mizar91
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Please stop putting guns everywhere in video games, I'm ok with FPS but now it's only becoming lame...

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#78 GOGOGOGURT
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Because so many people like it.

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#79 dirtydishko2
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Because so many people like it.

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This is my point. I'm basically at odds with the hipster "oh you've probably never heard of it.." type people who only seem to take issue with things based on their popularity. People who voice negative opinions on games or music or styles or trends, not based at all on the quality of the subject in question, but instead based solely on how popular it is. These types of people will always side with the less accepted or less preferred option solely because they believe it makes them 'cool'.
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#80 hoola
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Because so many people like it.

dirtydishko2

This is my point. I'm basically at odds with the hipster "oh you've probably never heard of it.." type people who only seem to take issue with things based on their popularity. People who voice negative opinions on games or music or styles or trends, not based at all on the quality of the subject in question, but instead based solely on how popular it is. These types of people will always side with the less accepted or less preferred option solely because they believe it makes them 'cool'.

I have to agree with this. I think COD can not be considered a terrible game like so many people say it is. It has an average story (actually the MW story may be better than most FPS games), decent graphics, decent sound, fast and tight controls, well paced multiplayer, and an intense single player. It is just an overall good game that doesn't do anything "badly." The people who hate on it hate on it because they are haters.

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#81 dakan45
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Because in the begining they did not like the changes like the perks, the killstreaks, now they got pissed that a game that they dont like keeps going and going and assimilates more games to be more like it. Admitedly everyone is blamming cod for everything, and making excuses about its "milking" and how similar the sequels look with each other. I got 3 things to say to you: pokemon, tomb raider, final fantasy, tons of indentical games and when they "changed" their fanbase hated them. I think there are plenty of times that a game tried to change and appeal to diffirent people resulted into the sequel sucking rather being a better game, activision knows this,
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#82 Tjumph
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I think it's pretty simple, the reason people hate COD is because they bought it and actually liked the multiplayer for the first dozen of hours. Suddently they realize that COD multiplayer offers 0 depth and is hardly more then a acarde fragfest without any real tactical options and has striking balance issues. Simply said, COD is a 'bubble' game, once you pinch through that bubble it stops being fun.
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#83 dirtydishko2
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[QUOTE="Tjumph"]I think it's pretty simple, the reason people hate COD is because they bought it and actually liked the multiplayer for the first dozen of hours. Suddently they realize that COD multiplayer offers 0 depth and is hardly more then a acarde fragfest without any real tactical options and has striking balance issues. Simply said, COD is a 'bubble' game, once you pinch through that bubble it stops being fun.

Arcade fragfest without any real tactical options? You can't be serious. You do know there are other playlists that aren't Team Deathmatch right? Have you ever played a Hardcore Search and Destroy match? That's about as tactical as it gets right there my friend.
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#84 lordofmacedon97
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I belive that the Call of Duty sieres is an amzing sieres. I personally like Call of Duty 3. The multiplayer is very good. My idiot classmate thinks that Call of duty isn't very good becuase It doesn't have modern weapons. I on the other hand like the fact that it has tanks and it isn't totally unfair. You can destroy one with Sticky Gernades, gernades down the hatch, Rifle gernades, bazooka, or another tank. I hate the fact that they took out the 24-player multiplayer and the vechiles. those added more excitement and need for teamwork. The only teamwork I see in COD MW 2 and BO is that if the guy in front of you gets shot, don't go that way. Its like evryone is a lonier but is trying to do the same thing. Its not fun that way. COD3 has the teamwork requirement. If your team has no teamwork, your going to lose. plus the game isn't completly about snipers agansit snipers like many. Battlefield Bad company has all the things I like WITH modern weapons. Vechiles are included and 24 player multiplayer, and teamwork. It includes all of these things. It also has the need for intelligent reasoning like figuring out weak points and exploiting it and covering each others backs. the new COD games are like 6 agents from 2 countries fighting in an area that looks like a battleground for 100 men. plus the choppers and sentry guns can be extremly stupid. people are more like be good and kill, or get out of the way. I bet COD players aren't as smart as BFBC2 players. so basicly COD 3 was the best game to me but the newer ones need better game play so that it can have unique fetyres like tanks and have 24 player mulitiplayer avaliable. (Yes, people still play COD 3)
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#85 Elann2008
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I think the gameplay back then (COD4) was still good and fresh, but since MW2 and Black Ops, it's gotten real stale. It's the fact that COD hasn't brought anything new in its entirety that irks me the wrong way. Recycled games for the sake of pleasing stockholders. Sure, the formula works and consumers parade into retailers at the slightest chance to even get a glimpse at it and buy a copy. You would think with all that money they'd at least try to add something new and fresh to their already proven formula. Oh, I really hate scripted events in first-person shooters. They're really annoying...
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#86 WhiteKnight77
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I hate it because it embodies everything that's wrong with the industry these days. Yearly sequel rehashes, overpriced DLC, overly linear/scripted gameplay, and a excessive reliance on generic multiplayer to increase the longevity of the title. It doesn't help that multiplayer is populated by the bottom feeders of the videogame audience.DJ_Lae

This.

Coupled with the fact that once ground breaking or genre defining games are shadows of their former selves due to CoDitis (the want of making a game that sells as well as CoD). Now every game has to have perks, achievements and all sorts of other unneeded garbage to "interest" gamers in playing a game. What ever happened to playing a game based on it's own features instead of features from other games that are in it?

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#87 ROFLCOPTER603
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[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]I hate it because it embodies everything that's wrong with the industry these days. Yearly sequel rehashes, overpriced DLC, overly linear/scripted gameplay, and a excessive reliance on generic multiplayer to increase the longevity of the title. It doesn't help that multiplayer is populated by the bottom feeders of the videogame audience.WhiteKnight77

This.

Coupled with the fact that once ground breaking or genre defining games are shadows of their former selves due to CoDitis (the want of making a game that sells as well as CoD). Now every game has to have perks, achievements and all sorts of other unneeded garbage to "interest" gamers in playing a game. What ever happened to playing a game based on it's own features instead of features from other games that are in it?

CoD doesn't have achievements for the online MP...And it hasn't had any thatwere worth something since CoD 3.I think you mean challenges.

On topic, people hate it because they're bad at it. MW2 was a not a forgiving game (with DC, SP, commando, etc.), and while Black Ops is significantly easier, it's still hard for some people.