I'd like to get something straight about the Legend of Zelda series...

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#1 action1234
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Every game is a new "legend". Every Link and Zelda and Ganondorf are different characters in every game. Am I right?

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#2 xmitchconnorx
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Yeah, pretty much. I think a few are sequels of other games however. But overall every game is not in the same timeline.
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#3 Desulated
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You explained it in a nutshell.

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#4 m0zart
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I don't think every Gannon is different, but Nintendo has openly stated that almost every Link and Zelda are separate characters in a different time period.

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A lot of them tie in togethor somehow. But their are some that are pretty irrevelent.

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#6 UT_Wrestler
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Every game is a new "legend". Every Link and Zelda and Ganondorf are different characters in every game. Am I right?

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No, you're only half right. For instance, Majora's Mask is a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time, and Link's Adventure is a direct sequel to the original Legend of Zelda. There was a time when Nintendo tried to link them all into the same timeline as somehow being the same Link, but once they started working on Wind Waker they basically said screw it
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#7 karmaslave40
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i would have to agree that most of em are completely different legends....with the exception to some like Majora's Mask and The Phantom Hourglass....but it's still interesting to see which characters, from one game, are incorporated into a new game.
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For the most part, there is only one Ganon from what I've gathered, but there are many Links and Zeldas, yet some games do feature the same Link and Zelda, like Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass, Link's Adventure and the Original Legend of Zelda, and Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. The other games pretty much feature different Links, although there is an overarching storyline of sorts.
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No, you're only half right. For instance, Majora's Mask is a direct sequel to Ocarina of Time, and Link's Adventure is a direct sequel to the original Legend of Zelda. There was a time when Nintendo tried to link them all into the same timeline as somehow being the same Link, but once they started working on Wind Waker they basically said screw itUT_Wrestler

I don't think that's correct. ALttP was quite obviously in the distant past compared to the original Zelda games, and OoT was obviously in the distant past (which is why it attempts to explain the origins of Gannon/Ganon, the origins of the seven sages mentioned in ALttP, and the origins of the Triforce shards). That's how Nintendo framed the stories. All the way back in OoT time frame Nintendo stated that the Link and Zelda characters were different in all of these games, but had some historical connection.

Actually, even Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link is on the odd side. The Link in that game is the same Link as the original LoZ, but the Zelda in that game is not the same Zelda from the original game, but from a time in the ancient past of Hyrule, who was put into a sleeping spell until a hero could break the curse. So even from the second game, this divergence of characters was acknowledged.

As I understand it all, this is how it goes:

LoZ and Z2:AoL -- Same Link, same Ganon (though dead in 2), different Zelda

ALttP and LA -- Same Link, Zelda and Ganononly in the first one

OoT and MM -- Same Link, Zelda and Ganon only in the first one

OoS and OoA -- Possibly the same Link, though it's unclear how this Link relates to the other games (if at all)

TMC -- Link and Zelda from a very distant time in the past, so likely not related to the others. Ganon not present.

FS -- Link and Zelda from a very distant time in the past, but not as distant as TMC. Not the same Link or Zelda as TMC.

FSA -- Link and Zelda from a very distant time in the past, but not as distant as either TMC or FS. Not the same Link as in FS or TMC.

WW and PH -- Same Link, same Zelda (Tetra), Ganon only in first one

ST -- It really isn't clear at all. It appears to be the same Link and Zelda as WW and PH (same look), but some of the scenes in the trailer don't really support this.

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#10 osan0
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to be honest i dont think nintendo even consider time lines or how everyone links up in the different zelda. there are theories but as far as nintendo are concerned...they make the game they want to make. if content in that game clashes with zelda lore then toodels to the zelda lore. either that...or nintendo throughout the series have been sending a message that the history books dont always have all the detail and this is a very subtle message about the zelda series..in which case they are absolute geniouses. im going to go with theiry one though (but ninty are, of course, still very clever). i just take every game on its own and go with it.
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#11 eveileb-ekam
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Zelda has a very distinct timeline if youre willing to look into the cut scenes and get what they infer. Many of the games are quite obviously linked, and Im not just talking about the obvious Ocarina - Majora and Wind Waker - Phantom Hourglass either. Its not just guesswork; the evidence is there.

But youre right, for the most part. Link and Zelda are reincarnations, whereas Ganondorf is the same being throughout the different legends. Well, if you consider two entitities in different timelines the same :P

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#12 N3MO
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I found this to be a slightly interesting watch about the Zelda timeline.

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#13 LoG-Sacrament
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some of the games fit together, but the series is a complete mess if you try to piece the whole thing in a line. id imagine its mostly because nintendo never had a whole series planned out. they naturally want to keep releasing entries to one of their most popular franchises. eventually, you run out of places to put a new game. just focus on enjoying each zelda game as is, rather than deifying a story thats more or less an afterthought.
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#14 ASK_Story
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That's how it is, but honestly, I don't like it. It's such a cop-out. It sounds pretty ridiculous from a continuity, legacy, and story's point of view.
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#15 xmitchconnorx
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I've heard someone explain Zelda to me as an old spoken fable that is pasted down from generation to generation. The story is basically the same but the details are different each time. I thought that was a pretty cool explanation.