IGN (Wii-kly) podcast Manhunt 2 hands-on Shocks the team + much more

They went to rockstar and had a 4 hour playtest with the Wii version of Manhunt 2.

Shipping the same day as PS2

"We can tell you that it is very, very fun and we had a blast with it."

"It's awesome *pauses* and it's super crazy bloody, so if you're into that sort of thing as Bozon is because he's got issues... it's really good and we're really shocked at how well and beautiful, I mean it's pretty good looking for a Wii game, I'd say it's one of the prettier looking games on Wii."

"I think it's the first game that bounces between, maybe a little under Xbox and maybe a tad bit over it."

"Certainly the blood effects look really nice."

"Well the difference was, if it was on xbox they would have much better lighting and textures, but then the xbox version would probably chop up too."

"Manhunt 2 on wii, it looks like its going to be great, I'm really looking forward to it."

"We can't talk about details yet but we'll have some coverage this coming week, look forward to that but what we can say is that you're going to want the Wii version absolutely, there's absolutely no reason to get the PS2 version. You're going to see why, we're going to explain why.... there are several fundamental major reasons why you're going to want the Wii version"

"Yeah we went hands on with the Wii version for a long time, like a 4 hour session and it's the first time I've had a wii game where I sat down with it for 4 hours and when they took it away I was actually like don't, don't."

"You just don't know right, cause you see these games."

"Aside from Zelda, seriously I love this game."

"For me it's like they announce this game and at the back of my mind it's like: ugh I hope this isn't going to be a stupid port with like tacked on wii controls, it doesn't feel that way at all. We can't talk about why of course. People are now learning that manhunt 2 is going to be good on Wii"

"When we normally demo Wii games, there are normally like 2 people who watch us and then say kiddie or whatever and walk away, and that's normally how it happens but for Manhunt 2 for Wii when we brought that in we had the whole office in including a bunch of people who just normally don't care about videogames"

"Like people who've seen wii sports and like nothing else"

"And a lot of them were like 'My God  I can't believe that's happening' and everyone was laughing and wincing"

"One person actually said 'why is he holding a wii controller to play this?' and then they were confused as to why this game was on Wii they didn't understand what they were seeing"

"They kept asking 'Is this a Wii game?' and YES, yes it's on Wii"

"So I mean like, great, wow. It really rocked the house."

"Rockstars doing allright they're brining a lot to wii so that's good"

"Absolutely."

Other news:

Info from the Ubisoft event is still embargoed
- Harry Potter is looking quite ambituous and MySims DS is looking good
- Ghost Squad is looking to be fun, has a lot of depth. NiGHTS is still looking rough
- House of the Dead is/was being developed for Wii, but may have been cancelled
- Spider-Man 3 sold 36,000 units for Wii, about half of PS3 sales
- Pirates game is okay, lag issues, but graphics are pretty nice
- Manhunt 2 is looking really good. They've played 4 hours of it, and the entire IGN offices were watching
- The Bigs coverage coming next week
- MP3:C/SMG/SSBB coming this year, but if one gets bumped it will be SMG
- Nintendo media summit confirmed again, online media get their time on the 22nd, THIS TUESDAY print media on the 23rd
- Expanded audience DS/Wii game being announced Monday

manhunt 2 (wii) sales + 1bugsonglass

I updated it slightly so you might want to take a look at the extra quotes.

this is interesting indeed.RobinHood

OT Your sig is nice, did you make that peice of art? 

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

 

Grammaton-Cleric

If you aren't going to add anything constructive to this thread then why do you feel the need to drag in the Wii's demographic into it instead, potentially derailing the thread into another bleeding Wii debate.

[QUOTE="gaminggeek"]

- House of the Dead is/was being developed for Wii, but may have been cancelled
dvader654

They saw Resident Evil: UC and said "Aw *bleep*, forget it cancel the game."

lol, I expect so, RE:UC is where it's at! 

Manhunt sounds damn cool.

dvader654

Indeed, not only does it sound cool but it sounds as though we are looking at a "true" Wii game instead of port-and-tack-on. 

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

Grammaton-Cleric

The same demographic that made Twilight Princess the platform's best-selling game? Could go either way. I don't think there's much of a market for it anyhow. If it couldn't sell particularly impressively on the PS2, I doubt it will now, even with a PS2, PSP and Wii version.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

Oilers99

The same demographic that made Twilight Princess the platform's best-selling game? Could go either way. I don't think there's much of a market for it either way. If it couldn't sell particularly impressively on the PS2, I doubt it will now, even with a PS2, PSP and Wii version.

Exactly. This game isn't going to sell incredibly well anywhere. Hell, if people catch on to the crazy stuff you can do in the Wii version though, it may do better than the PS2.

I'll grab it if its as good as they're saying for sure. I want to more about what they're doing to improve the stealth.

[QUOTE="Oilers99"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

EdgecrusherAza

The same demographic that made Twilight Princess the platform's best-selling game? Could go either way. I don't think there's much of a market for it either way. If it couldn't sell particularly impressively on the PS2, I doubt it will now, even with a PS2, PSP and Wii version.

Exactly. This game isn't going to sell incredibly well anywhere. Hell, if people catch on to the crazy stuff you can do in the Wii version though, it may do better than the PS2.

I'll grab it if its as good as they're saying for sure. I want to more about what they're doing to improve the stealth.

IGN has this stupid habit of hyping games up without actually saying anything. "It's so amazing and awesome, it's going to blow you away...but we can't say why." Wow, thanks. Here's an idea - keep yer traps shut until you can actually say/show something about the game.

"Yeah we went hands on with the Wii version for a long time, like a 4 hour session and it's the first time I've had a wii game where I sat down with it for 4 hours and when they took it away I was actually like don't, don't."

gaminggeek

FIRST TIME.  Haha.  

Anyway, this game sounds amazing.  After what I read from Godfather on the Wii, I was fairly certain that Manhunt was going to rock even more with the controller.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

 

Mantorok

If you aren't going to add anything constructive to this thread then why do you feel the need to drag in the Wii's demographic into it instead, potentially derailing the thread into another bleeding Wii debate.

Thank you. :) 

i really didnt care for the original manhunt. i thought the gameplay was really lacking and the game itself just suffered from  a very simple story with a lame plot and zero gameplay originality. essentially i payed 39.99 for gruesome death animations.

i havent played this iteration of course, so the jury is out. but knowing what i know about the last one, it prolly wont matter what system its on, it will most likeley get 6-7 out of ten from mpst reviewers.

as far as the crowds wooing about the wii version, well they prolly would have had the same reaction for the PS2 version, as it sounds like they were really impressed with the bloodiness and gore.

plus ign tends to really overhype games before they are launched....which then later get very poorly recieved. fran really annoys me...ive heard him say on a podcast "if you take out all of the glaring problems with this game, its not too bad":roll:

and btw mantorok....take it easy man...lately every thread i see you in, you get so hyper sensitive about the Wii (oh yah well your hypersensitive about the PS3) thought id beat you to the punch:oops:

[QUOTE="gaminggeek"]

- House of the Dead is/was being developed for Wii, but may have been cancelled
dvader654

They saw Resident Evil: UC and said "Aw *bleep*, forget it cancel the game."

Manhunt sounds damn cool.

i hope your wrong... id love to see house of the dead return

*sigh*

i have fond memories of the first game at the arcades

Did IGN hire a bunch of five-year-olds or something? Just look at that grammar!AbusementPark

ummm its paraphrased from a live webcast

it would probably be a very boring podcast if they gave lectures on videogames

IGN has this stupid habit of hyping games up without actually saying anything. "It's so amazing and awesome, it's going to blow you away...but we can't say why." Wow, thanks. Here's an idea - keep yer traps shut until you can actually say/show something about the game.

 

UpInFlames

and btw mantorok....take it easy man...lately every thread i see you in, you get so hyper sensitive about the Wii (oh yah well your hypersensitive about the PS3) thought id beat you to the punch:oops:flood

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

 

Mantorok

If you aren't going to add anything constructive to this thread then why do you feel the need to drag in the Wii's demographic into it instead, potentially derailing the thread into another bleeding Wii debate.

I wasn't aware I needed your approval to post my opinion.

My comments were not insulting to either the Wii or this game. The truth is that the original sold poorly on the PS2 and I think it's unlikely the sequel will do much better on Wii.

If that observation is bothersome to you, tough.

I think it's interesting and good for Nintendo to reach out to a mature audience, but what bothers me is that this game is just merely a port from the PS2/PSP version with a Wii-makeover.

Anyway, I'm not really into overly violent games played for the sake of being violent, especially one as insane and gory as this.

But I'm very intrigued by the rumor of Rockstar's Table Tennis game coming on the Wii. Ping pong with the Wii-mote....what could be more fun than that?

I think it's interesting and good for Nintendo to reach out to a mature audience, but what bothers me is that this game is just merely a port from the PS2/PSP version with a Wii-makeover.

Anyway, I'm not really into overly violent games played for the sake of being violent, especially one as insane and gory as this.

But I'm very intrigued by the rumor of Rockstar's Table Tennis game coming on the Wii. Ping pong with the Wii-mote....what could be more fun than that?

 

ASK_Story

 I couldn't agree more about Rockstar Table Tennis on Wii.  I can see myself getting seriously addicted to that.

I think it's interesting and good for Nintendo to reach out to a mature audience, but what bothers me is that this game is just merely a port from the PS2/PSP version with a Wii-makeover.

Anyway, I'm not really into overly violent games played for the sake of being violent, especially one as insane and gory as this.

But I'm very intrigued by the rumor of Rockstar's Table Tennis game coming on the Wii. Ping pong with the Wii-mote....what could be more fun than that?

 

ASK_Story

nah after watching trailors of how godfather black hand worked out with the controls, i think the content in manhunt will be a problem... really its not to imagine the wii becoming a more specific scapegoat to videogame inspired violence if it comes up, because pressing buttons has always had the defence of being a bit 'abstract'... but with the wii .. the links might be a little more solid for jack thompson and the like...

*extra extra nintendo wii?i or killbot trainer?* lol i jus think they should be a bit cautious but hopefully the outrage over manhunts content has blown over..

.. as for table tennis i think playing it in real life would be better... but it would make an awesome online game

My comments were not insulting to either the Wii or this game. The truth is that the original sold poorly on the PS2 and I think it's unlikely the sequel will do much better on Wii.

Grammaton-Cleric

Then I suggest you reconsider the clarity of your posts, using phrases like "Wii demographic" does anything but suggest you were targeting the Manhunt franchise rather than the user-base for reasons of lack of sales.

Seems to me you couldn't resist putting some negative spin on a positive thread, it's becoming quite a habit is it not?

I see a terrible trend in these forums lately where I open up a thread only to find out the conversation has spiralled into the unrecognisable, and your first post above is a classic example of dangling the bait.

And don't even bother with accusing me of defending Nintendo or the Wii, it's getting old, time to change the record I think. 

My comments were not insulting to either the Wii or this game. The truth is that the original sold poorly on the PS2 and I think it's unlikely the sequel will do much better on Wii.Grammaton-Cleric

Normally, if someone's wording was confusing or not clear, it's better to apologize for not having clear wording, instead of telling others that its their fault for misreading an already poorly worded post off the bat.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]My comments were not insulting to either the Wii or this game. The truth is that the original sold poorly on the PS2 and I think it's unlikely the sequel will do much better on Wii.Skylock00

Normally, if someone's wording was confusing or not clear, it's better to apologize for not having clear wording, instead of telling others that its their fault for misreading an already poorly worded post off the bat.

you have a point.....

but if he were to say that this game may not play to the Wii's core audience, how is that necessarilly wrong...or negative?

it was nintendo that chose to market to non gamers(adults,seniors, small children)by design. i dont see how this game, about bloody murder and performing gruesome death animations will play well to the same crowd who enjoys raving rabbits. both very good games, but almost diametric opposites in content and theme.

i guess if he had said "well this game wont sell cause the wii is for kids" then i could understand the backlash. but at this point im just seeing some very sensative posters who took offense to a very obvious and tempered statement. are we now at the point that we cant make observations.....purely becasue they may be taken the wrong way?

[QUOTE="Skylock00"]

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]My comments were not insulting to either the Wii or this game. The truth is that the original sold poorly on the PS2 and I think it's unlikely the sequel will do much better on Wii.flood

Normally, if someone's wording was confusing or not clear, it's better to apologize for not having clear wording, instead of telling others that its their fault for misreading an already poorly worded post off the bat.

you have a point.....

but if he were to say that this game may not play to the Wii's core audience, how is that necessarilly wrong...or negative?

it was nintendo that chose to market to non gamers(adults,seniors, small children)by design. i dont see how this game, about bloody murder and performing gruesome death animations will play well to the same crowd who enjoys raving rabbits. both very good games, but almost diametric opposites in content and theme.

i guess if he had said "well this game wont sell cause the wii is for kids" then i could understand the backlash. but at this point im just seeing some very sensative posters who took offense to a very obvious and tempered statement. are we now at the point that we cant make observations.....purely becasue they may be taken the wrong way?

I'm not a Manhunt kind of guy, just on principle.  And even if it turns out to be an awesome game (for Wii or PS2), I don't know if I'll have the stomach for it.  Clawhammers? *shudder*

By that same token, if this turns out to be as great as the podcasters are letting on, it'll be a great success for Nintendo as well as Rockstar.  Personally, I never figured Manhunt 2 Wii would be very good, but hey, I can't say I wouldn't like to be surprised.

you have a point.....

but....

flood

Otherwise, I more or less agree that the chances of this game doing well are slim, but not really because of the Wii's audience (since we really don't know what the audience is interested in fully at this stage), and moreso because Manhunt didn't prove to be a terribly popular game sales wise in the first place, and nothing more. 

i guess if he had said "well this game wont sell cause the wii is for kids" then i could understand the backlash. but at this point im just seeing some very sensative posters who took offense to a very obvious and tempered statement. are we now at the point that we cant make observations.....purely becasue they may be taken the wrong way?

flood

Jeez, do you really think I give a rats ass about what people say about the Wii, or Nintendo for that matter?

I made my stance clear from the very start, if you read my initial response then you will see I was more annoyed about his [possible] attempt at derailing the thread, never-mind the pop at the Wii's demographic.

But of course, you've already made your mind up that I'm sensitive, give it a rest. 

Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales.

The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.

 

Grammaton-Cleric

I'm 35-years-old and Wii is my only current-gen console.    Whether I'm part of the Wii's target demographic, I don't know.  But I do know I like the system a lot and I sincerely doubt I'm the only 30-something gamer who owns one.

Could someone tell me why EVERY SINGLE thread that involves the Wii turns into a debate thread.

I mean sure I can see why some people are worried, but when a thread that just implys a game may work well on teh Wii turns into a flamefest that is just downright ridiculous.

Anwyay back on topic. I personally can only see the "submissions" being worked very well with the controller as well as aiming. I think it the Wii version could be known as the "superior" or "must have" version of this game *similar to Mortal Kombat Genesis or Soul Caliber Gamecube*. How well Rockstar pulls it off, we'll see. 

[QUOTE="flood"]

i guess if he had said "well this game wont sell cause the wii is for kids" then i could understand the backlash. but at this point im just seeing some very sensative posters who took offense to a very obvious and tempered statement. are we now at the point that we cant make observations.....purely becasue they may be taken the wrong way?

Mantorok

Jeez, do you really think I give a rats ass about what people say about the Wii, or Nintendo for that matter?

I made my stance clear from the very start, if you read my initial response then you will see I was more annoyed about his [possible] attempt at derailing the thread, never-mind the pop at the Wii's demographic.

But of course, you've already made your mind up that I'm sensitive, give it a rest. 

""Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales. The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.""

sorry guys, im not trying to derail the thread here...but this was the controversial statement that got the whole ball rolling. i dont see anything here that derails the topic, or negatively spins the wii's demographics. in fact it actually advances the discussion.

he simply made a statement on how this game in particular, being very violent...no let me re-word that....this game is purposely ultra violent as a matter of design....and how that may not play well with a number of wii owners...ie nintendo fans ie traditionally non violent gamers. nowhere did he skew the comment to mean kiddie, or childish or whatever.

what worries me is that in this forum, lately we have reached such a level of super sensitivity, that any comment made about a system or its games, that isnt easily related in glowing positivity, is deemed harmful and disruptive. cant we take a little critiscism about our consoles and just debate and not try to turn every little point into a personal attack from which we can be offended?

[QUOTE="Mantorok"][QUOTE="flood"]

i guess if he had said "well this game wont sell cause the wii is for kids" then i could understand the backlash. but at this point im just seeing some very sensative posters who took offense to a very obvious and tempered statement. are we now at the point that we cant make observations.....purely becasue they may be taken the wrong way?

flood

Jeez, do you really think I give a rats ass about what people say about the Wii, or Nintendo for that matter?

I made my stance clear from the very start, if you read my initial response then you will see I was more annoyed about his [possible] attempt at derailing the thread, never-mind the pop at the Wii's demographic.

But of course, you've already made your mind up that I'm sensitive, give it a rest. 

""Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales. The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.""

sorry guys, im not trying to derail the thread here...but this was the controversial statement that got the whole ball rolling. i dont see anything here that derails the topic, or negatively spins the wii's demographics. in fact it actually advances the discussion.

he simply made a statement on how this game in particular, being very violent...no let me re-word that....this game is purposely ultra violent as a matter of design....and how that may not play well with a number of wii owners...ie nintendo fans ie traditionally non violent gamers. nowhere did he skew the comment to mean kiddie, or childish or whatever.

what worries me is that in this forum, lately we have reached such a level of super sensitivity, that any comment made about a system or its games, that isnt easily related in glowing positivity, is deemed harmful and disruptive. cant we take a little critiscism about our consoles and just debate and not try to turn every little point into a personal attack from which we can be offended?

Everyone, seriously, I don't want to start locking threads the moment I suspect they might possibly spiral into the same old same.  Until everyone is no longer on the edges of their seats, waiting to attack and defend frivolous points, chill out with the negativity, or at least think carefully about how you say things.  And if someone says something you disagree with, for the love of god, don't lose your mind over it. Kick back, eat some pizza, and have a little fun.  It's a video game forum.  Relax a little.

And if someone says something you disagree with, for the love of god, don't lose your mind over it. Kick back, eat some pizza, and have a little fun. It's a video game forum. Relax a little.

ShenlongBo

[QUOTE="flood"][QUOTE="Mantorok"][QUOTE="flood"]

i guess if he had said "well this game wont sell cause the wii is for kids" then i could understand the backlash. but at this point im just seeing some very sensative posters who took offense to a very obvious and tempered statement. are we now at the point that we cant make observations.....purely becasue they may be taken the wrong way?

ShenlongBo

Jeez, do you really think I give a rats ass about what people say about the Wii, or Nintendo for that matter?

I made my stance clear from the very start, if you read my initial response then you will see I was more annoyed about his [possible] attempt at derailing the thread, never-mind the pop at the Wii's demographic.

But of course, you've already made your mind up that I'm sensitive, give it a rest. 

""Personally, I think this game, even if it's great, will fail in terms of sales. The demographic that owns the Wii isn't going to be interested in killing with the Wiimote, as cool as that would seem.""

sorry guys, im not trying to derail the thread here...but this was the controversial statement that got the whole ball rolling. i dont see anything here that derails the topic, or negatively spins the wii's demographics. in fact it actually advances the discussion.

he simply made a statement on how this game in particular, being very violent...no let me re-word that....this game is purposely ultra violent as a matter of design....and how that may not play well with a number of wii owners...ie nintendo fans ie traditionally non violent gamers. nowhere did he skew the comment to mean kiddie, or childish or whatever.

what worries me is that in this forum, lately we have reached such a level of super sensitivity, that any comment made about a system or its games, that isnt easily related in glowing positivity, is deemed harmful and disruptive. cant we take a little critiscism about our consoles and just debate and not try to turn every little point into a personal attack from which we can be offended?

Everyone, seriously, I don't want to start locking threads the moment I suspect they might possibly spiral into the same old same.  Until everyone is no longer on the edges of their seats, waiting to attack and defend frivolous points, chill out with the negativity, or at least think carefully about how you say things.  And if someone says something you disagree with, for the love of god, don't lose your mind over it. Kick back, eat some pizza, and have a little fun.  It's a video game forum.  Relax a little.

just called cecil whittakers....mmmmm mm

[QUOTE="ShenlongBo"]

And if someone says something you disagree with, for the love of god, don't lose your mind over it. Kick back, eat some pizza, and have a little fun. It's a video game forum. Relax a little.

SteelAttack

I'm not going to apologize for a statement that was neither inflammatory nor incorrect. Unlike a lot of people on this board, I played the original Manhunt and it really is one of the most depraved and violent games ever made. (And I mean that as a compliment) I'm genuinely surprised the Wii is getting a version of the sequel and I think the game will probably be very good but will ultimately sell very poorly. There is a certain demographic that the Wii caters to and while there are certainly plenty of hardcore enthusiasts enjoying the Wii, that doesn't change the fact that this game is the epitome of niche and probably won't appeal to the vast majority of Wii owners.