In the graphical comparison pictures, why were the PS3 screenshots whiter?

I'm just wondering, and nobody really explained it clearly. Is there a reason alot of the screens had a weird whitish sheen to it? And can it be fixed so that it doesn't have that pale whiteness look to it.

The screens are bothering me with that, and I'd like to know why they look like that.

Sony isteh racist!

Seriously, I think it has to do with the color output of the PS3. Something is causing the colors to have that washed out look.

Seriously, I think it has to do with the color output of the PS3. Something is causing the colors to have that washed out look.

The_Duke_Lives

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Seriously, I think it has to do with the color output of the PS3. Something is causing the colors to have that washed out look.

Skylock00

So it's a color saturation thing? Oh, you know, I thought it involved something called "anti-aliasing", because I heard that phrase a few times too in the comments.

I believe that you can solve that problem by either turning down the brightness or the gamma on your TV.GIJesse77

So it's a color saturation thing? Oh, you know, I thought it involved something called "anti-aliasing", because I heard that phrase a few times too in the comments.

kriptonzz

Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.Gangans

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

[QUOTE="Gangans"]Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.Grammaton-Cleric

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

As stated in the article, both machines were hooked up using component cables. HDMI was not used at all. Actually, there is a difference in clarity when using HDMI, especially when viewing movies with full RGB.

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Gangans"]Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.nopalversion

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

As stated in the article, both machines were hooked up using component cables. HDMI was not used at all. Actually, there is a difference in clarity when using HDMI, especially when viewing movies with full RGB.

The difference is that HDMI 1080p looks marginally better than 1080i using components on TV's larger than 50 inch and even then the actual difference between the two is fairly slim. I've hooked up the PS3 using both typeson two seperate HDTV's and we were hard pressed to see any difference at all. Go hit some online videophile sites that have done HDMI vs. component comparisons; they came to the same conclusionsregarding the alleged superiority of HDMI.

That isn't to say there is anything wrong with HDMI but the notion that it offers this vastlysuperior picture quality is hyperbolic nonsense. The biggest benefit of HDMI over component is that it allows for standard DVD movies to be upscaled to HD resolutions.

[QUOTE="nopalversion"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Gangans"]Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.Grammaton-Cleric

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

The difference is that HDMI 1080p looks marginally better than 1080i using components on TV's larger than 50 inch and even then the actual difference between the two is fairly slim. I've hooked up the PS3 using both typeson two seperate HDTV's and we were hard pressed to see any difference at all. Go hit some online videophile sites that have done HDMI vs. component comparisons; they came to the same conclusionsregarding the alleged superiority of HDMI.

That isn't to say there is anything wrong with HDMI but the notion that it offers this vastlysuperior picture quality is hyperbolic nonsense. The biggest benefit of HDMI over component is that it allows for standard DVD movies to be upscaled to HD resolutions.

You, sir, are very correct. It will offer much better sound quality over optical though;)

That isn't to say there is anything wrong with HDMI but the notion that it offers this vastlysuperior picture quality is hyperbolic nonsense. The biggest benefit of HDMI over component is that it allows for standard DVD movies to be upscaled to HD resolutions.

Grammaton-Cleric

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"][QUOTE="nopalversion"][QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Gangans"]Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.The_Baymonster

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

The difference is that HDMI 1080p looks marginally better than 1080i using components on TV's larger than 50 inch and even then the actual difference between the two is fairly slim. I've hooked up the PS3 using both typeson two seperate HDTV's and we were hard pressed to see any difference at all. Go hit some online videophile sites that have done HDMI vs. component comparisons; they came to the same conclusionsregarding the alleged superiority of HDMI.

That isn't to say there is anything wrong with HDMI but the notion that it offers this vastlysuperior picture quality is hyperbolic nonsense. The biggest benefit of HDMI over component is that it allows for standard DVD movies to be upscaled to HD resolutions.

You, sir, are very correct. It will offer much better sound quality over optical though;)

You're 100% correct about the sound being superior. Apparently, the sound quality is much more apparent than the visual upgrade.

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That isn't to say there is anything wrong with HDMI but the notion that it offers this vastlysuperior picture quality is hyperbolic nonsense. The biggest benefit of HDMI over component is that it allows for standard DVD movies to be upscaled to HD resolutions.

Teufelhuhn

The single connector is a bonus and certainly less hassle.

I read some interesting articles on signal degredation and the consensus is that none of us use cables long enough to worry about such issues. It's a selling point for companies like Monster who push high end cables that in reality do nothing better than the cheaper wires.

Why you would want to hook up your system and not try to make the best settings is beyond me.

But Full RGB on HDMI makes an awesome difference. It changes the colorspace to 0-255, something that component cannot do.

Why you would want to hook up your system and not try to make the best settings is beyond me.

But Full RGB on HDMI makes an awesome difference. It changes the colorspace to 0-255, something that component cannot do.

dohhyulittle

You can quote all the paper specs you want, HDMI offers little to no visual advantage over component.

It is not a fact sheet.

Firmware 1.8 added the option for Full RGB over HDMI

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates/PS3_181_update.html

RGB Full Range (HDMI) has been added as an option in (Display Settings) under (Settings).

Limited RGB output signal is output in the range from 16 to 235.
Full RGB output signal is output in the range from 0 to 255.

If black sometimes appears bright and sometimes appears pale on the screen when [Limited] is selected, set this option to [Full].
If black appears dull on the screen when Full is selected, set this option to Limited.
This setting can be used only when HDMI has been selected in Video Output Settings under (Settings)(Display Settings).

It is not a fact sheet.

Firmware 1.8 added the option for Full RGB over HDMI

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates/PS3_181_update.html

RGB Full Range (HDMI) has been added as an option in (Display Settings) under (Settings).

Limited RGB output signal is output in the range from 16 to 235.
Full RGB output signal is output in the range from 0 to 255.

If black sometimes appears bright and sometimes appears pale on the screen when [Limited] is selected, set this option to [Full].
If black appears dull on the screen when Full is selected, set this option to Limited.
This setting can be used only when HDMI has been selected in Video Output Settings under (Settings)(Display Settings).dohhyulittle

It is a simple fact HDMI represents more color than component cables, this in turn leads to more colors on screen which equals a better picture represented on screen.

HDMI also does not suffer from oversaturation of colors.

Im not even going to talk about resolutions and what TVs do or dont accept 1080p over component, as well as deep color. Or high defintion audio which you must have a HDMI cable to use. Or using HDMI for dvd upscaling.



Keep on believing what you want, i dont care. I came to post in this thread to correct some missinformation. The simple fact is though there is not a single benefit of using component over HDMI, however there are many benefits of using HDMI over component. I am done in this thread, reply if you wish, but there isnt a single shred of evidence to support component usage over HDMI. Anything you can say is just opinion based on a TV calibrated for component instead of HDMI.





Uhg this is why i dont post on these forums much if at all anymore, what the hell does "you cannot post videos on this message board" mean? Im not linking to any videos dammit, its one link with a quote. Get better php code gamespot, seriously.

the differences aren't really noticeable unless you have 3 thousand dollar tv, my 34 Inch Aquos looks about the same when I use either HDMI or Component. Anyway, I don't see why you got so irritated, no one has said that component has any advantages over HDMI, but rather that differences aren't really all that apparent to the human eye (lol). So your efforts to correct missinformation have truly been wasted "as beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Basically your post reads like this: whine whine, blah blah, oversaturation, whine whine. If there is anything I don't think PS3 owners should worry about, it would be oversaturation.

Anyway if you are gonna spend all of your time whining about gamespot's code, then I can honestly say that I also would rather have you not post here.

edit: Basically I'm saying yes you're right when it comes to the specs, but the mass population couldn't possibly care any less.

Ya I definitely think GS has the Full RGB disabled. With it off, the image looks lighter like those screens, however, component does over saturate and thats not how the picture should look.F1Lengend

[QUOTE="dohhyulittle"]

It is not a fact sheet.

Firmware 1.8 added the option for Full RGB over HDMI

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates/PS3_181_update.html

RGB Full Range (HDMI) has been added as an option in (Display Settings) under (Settings).

Limited RGB output signal is output in the range from 16 to 235.
Full RGB output signal is output in the range from 0 to 255.

If black sometimes appears bright and sometimes appears pale on the screen when [Limited] is selected, set this option to [Full].
If black appears dull on the screen when Full is selected, set this option to Limited.
This setting can be used only when HDMI has been selected in Video Output Settings under (Settings)(Display Settings).HiResDes

It is a simple fact HDMI represents more color than component cables, this in turn leads to more colors on screen which equals a better picture represented on screen.

HDMI also does not suffer from oversaturation of colors.

Im not even going to talk about resolutions and what TVs do or dont accept 1080p over component, as well as deep color. Or high defintion audio which you must have a HDMI cable to use. Or using HDMI for dvd upscaling.



Keep on believing what you want, i dont care. I came to post in this thread to correct some missinformation. The simple fact is though there is not a single benefit of using component over HDMI, however there are many benefits of using HDMI over component. I am done in this thread, reply if you wish, but there isnt a single shred of evidence to support component usage over HDMI. Anything you can say is just opinion based on a TV calibrated for component instead of HDMI.





Uhg this is why i dont post on these forums much if at all anymore, what the hell does "you cannot post videos on this message board" mean? Im not linking to any videos dammit, its one link with a quote. Get better php code gamespot, seriously.

the differences aren't really noticeable unless you have 3 thousand dollar tv, my 34 Inch Aquos looks about the same when I use either HDMI or Component. Anyway, I don't see why you got so irritated, no one has said that component has any advantages over HDMI, but rather that differences aren't really all that apparent to the human eye (lol). So your efforts to correct missinformation have truly been wasted "as beauty is in the eye of the beholder." Basically your post reads like this: whine whine, blah blah, oversaturation, whine whine. If there is anything I don't think PS3 owners should worry about, it would be oversaturation.

Anyway if you are gonna spend all of your time whining about gamespot's code, then I can honestly say that I also would rather have you not post here.

And yes i damn well will complain about the code, it was telling me "you cannot post videos on this message board" i had the one link and a quote, there was no video there wasnt even a jpeg or gif. It was frustrating i spent 10 minutes just trying to figure out what it didnt like about what i posted and i wasnt about to not post it after i spent time to actually research, and provide links to support my claims. Apparently it was some brackets, even though once it let me post there were still some brackets in there.
I post on more than 7 forums almost daily, and this is the only one that has ever given me weird error codes such as "you cannot post videos on this message board" when in fact i wasnt posting any videos.

[QUOTE="Gangans"]Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.Grammaton-Cleric

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

It has been said many times in this thread but you are very correct. I work for a company that specializes in high definition and I have seen comparisons of HDMI versus Component and there was no sign of superiority by HDMI. In fact, some of the engineers were stating that Component had a cleaner image, though it was very marginal.

Nevertheless, that whole time I was thinking HDMI was vastly superior to anything else. Well, I definitely got educated. Gotta love marketing tactics!

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"]

[QUOTE="Gangans"]Different interface, sony uses hdmi 3.0 xbox uses plain old component cables. Colours are more saturated with the old cables due to signal distortions.juradai

Actually, the PS3 utilizes both and the difference between the two is zilch.

It has been said many times in this thread but you are very correct. I work for a company that specializes in high definition and I have seen comparisons of HDMI versus Component and there was no sign of superiority by HDMI. In fact, some of the engineers were stating that Component had a cleaner image, though it was very marginal.

Nevertheless, that whole time I was thinking HDMI was vastly superior to anything else. Well, I definitely got educated. Gotta love marketing tactics!

Don't feel too bad, we've all beenmisled when it comes to this type of stuff. Everybody wants the best image possible and we buy into the notion that more money equal better quality in terms of cables. The real eye opener for me was visiting some of the tech/video sites where they debunked the notion that expensive cables, such as Monster, perform better than standard cables.

They don't.

It is not a fact sheet.

Firmware 1.8 added the option for Full RGB over HDMI

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates/PS3_181_update.html

RGB Full Range (HDMI) has been added as an option in (Display Settings) under (Settings).

Limited RGB output signal is output in the range from 16 to 235.
Full RGB output signal is output in the range from 0 to 255.

If black sometimes appears bright and sometimes appears pale on the screen when [Limited] is selected, set this option to [Full].
If black appears dull on the screen when Full is selected, set this option to Limited.
This setting can be used only when HDMI has been selected in Video Output Settings under (Settings)(Display Settings).dohhyulittle

It is a simple fact HDMI represents more color than component cables, this in turn leads to more colors on screen which equals a better picture represented on screen.

HDMI also does not suffer from oversaturation of colors.

Im not even going to talk about resolutions and what TVs do or dont accept 1080p over component, as well as deep color. Or high defintion audio which you must have a HDMI cable to use. Or using HDMI for dvd upscaling.



Keep on believing what you want, i dont care. I came to post in this thread to correct some missinformation. The simple fact is though there is not a single benefit of using component over HDMI, however there are many benefits of using HDMI over component. I am done in this thread, reply if you wish, but there isnt a single shred of evidence to support component usage over HDMI. Anything you can say is just opinion based on a TV calibrated for component instead of HDMI.

You really should relax a bit and understand that there is a huge difference between specs on paper and what the human eye actually sees. The difference between HDMI and Component, as it is processed by the human eye, has been proven to be minimal.

This isn't a negative; it's a bit of useful information.

Accept it and move on.

[QUOTE="dohhyulittle"]

It is not a fact sheet.

Firmware 1.8 added the option for Full RGB over HDMI

http://www.us.playstation.com/ps3/network/updates/PS3_181_update.html

RGB Full Range (HDMI) has been added as an option in (Display Settings) under (Settings).

Limited RGB output signal is output in the range from 16 to 235.
Full RGB output signal is output in the range from 0 to 255.

If black sometimes appears bright and sometimes appears pale on the screen when [Limited] is selected, set this option to [Full].
If black appears dull on the screen when Full is selected, set this option to Limited.
This setting can be used only when HDMI has been selected in Video Output Settings under (Settings)(Display Settings).Grammaton-Cleric

It is a simple fact HDMI represents more color than component cables, this in turn leads to more colors on screen which equals a better picture represented on screen.

HDMI also does not suffer from oversaturation of colors.

Im not even going to talk about resolutions and what TVs do or dont accept 1080p over component, as well as deep color. Or high defintion audio which you must have a HDMI cable to use. Or using HDMI for dvd upscaling.



Keep on believing what you want, i dont care. I came to post in this thread to correct some missinformation. The simple fact is though there is not a single benefit of using component over HDMI, however there are many benefits of using HDMI over component. I am done in this thread, reply if you wish, but there isnt a single shred of evidence to support component usage over HDMI. Anything you can say is just opinion based on a TV calibrated for component instead of HDMI.

You really should relax a bit and understand that there is a huge difference between specs on paper and what the human eye actually sees. The difference between HDMI and Component, as it is processed by the human eye, has been proven to be minimal.

This isn't a negative; it's a bit of useful information.

Accept it and move on.

dude don't even, I already tried to reason with him.

Because they calibrated their TVs to look good with the Xbox360. PS3 images would look better if they just turn down the brightness a bit.

If they really want to do a fair test, they should have an Elite hooked up with HDMI compared to a PS3 Hooked up with HDMI, and calibrate both TVs so they look their best. They are crippling the PS3 by using component cables.