Is the N64 a terrible console?

I didn't have a problem with its controller (it just takes time getting used to), but i did have a problem with its games. A good portion of the highly acclaimed titles have horrible framerates of which i found them unplayable. And on the other side of the coin, the good games that are ageless didn't appeal to me at all.

Plus the fact that it had almost no shmups or fighting games, it just wasn't the console for me.

N64 also had the best multiplayer by far.Heirren

[QUOTE="Heirren"]N64 also had the best multiplayer by far.nintendoboy16

Mine is hooked up as we speak....the N64 is classic and still brings back more memories and nostalgia then many other consoles.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Heirren"]N64 also had the best multiplayer by far.Darkman2007

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Heirren"]N64 also had the best multiplayer by far.Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] True, though PlayStation had stuff like multitaps and system links. But the question is... how many games actually used those things? The only major multiplayer games I can think of on the PSOne are stuff like Tekken and other traditional fighting games, while stuff like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64, etc were the best places to go to for multiplayer.nintendoboy16

the N64 is the console that soured me on Nintendo, and it remains my biggest dissapointment in gaming.

my pesonal reasons:

- the aboslute worst control paddle ever designed; wonky analog, bad button layout, and an ergonomic nightmare.
- cartridge based system when discs were optimum (as an rpg/horror gamer, the FMV and CGI stuff on PS1 was great)
- severe lack of the genres I prefer (rpgs, shmups, 2D platformers, survival horrors)
- got the short end of the 3rd party stick (CastleVania64 vs CV:Symphony of Night, lost Square & Enix)
- no sequel to my #1 favorite SNES game (super metroid)


there were a few other minor reasons, like the fact that most of my friends went with PlayStation, but the above were my main reasons.

TheKungFool

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

the N64 is the console that soured me on Nintendo, and it remains my biggest dissapointment in gaming.

my pesonal reasons:

- the aboslute worst control paddle ever designed; wonky analog, bad button layout, and an ergonomic nightmare.
- cartridge based system when discs were optimum (as an rpg/horror gamer, the FMV and CGI stuff on PS1 was great)
- severe lack of the genres I prefer (rpgs, shmups, 2D platformers, survival horrors)
- got the short end of the 3rd party stick (CastleVania64 vs CV:Symphony of Night, lost Square & Enix)
- no sequel to my #1 favorite SNES game (super metroid)


there were a few other minor reasons, like the fact that most of my friends went with PlayStation, but the above were my main reasons.

luckykoopsie

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] True, though PlayStation had stuff like multitaps and system links. But the question is... how many games actually used those things? The only major multiplayer games I can think of on the PSOne are stuff like Tekken and other traditional fighting games, while stuff like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart 64, etc were the best places to go to for multiplayer.nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="luckykoopsie"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

the N64 is the console that soured me on Nintendo, and it remains my biggest dissapointment in gaming.

my pesonal reasons:

- the aboslute worst control paddle ever designed; wonky analog, bad button layout, and an ergonomic nightmare.
- cartridge based system when discs were optimum (as an rpg/horror gamer, the FMV and CGI stuff on PS1 was great)
- severe lack of the genres I prefer (rpgs, shmups, 2D platformers, survival horrors)
- got the short end of the 3rd party stick (CastleVania64 vs CV:Symphony of Night, lost Square & Enix)
- no sequel to my #1 favorite SNES game (super metroid)


there were a few other minor reasons, like the fact that most of my friends went with PlayStation, but the above were my main reasons.

Shockwave-DASH

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="luckykoopsie"] i like the cartridge based system cause there were no loading times so you can actually speed run games.luckykoopsie

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] what if you were a fan of tradtional fighting games? there are alot of people (myself included) who do.Shockwave-DASH

And what multitap games made the PlayStation the go to place for four player games like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Star Wars Racer, the N64 version of TWINE (the PS version lacked multiplayer), etc? Last I checked, the only huge multiplayer games on PS were traditional fighting games, primarily the Tekken franchise.

The PSOne may have been the most prefered console overall, but it wasn't preferred over everything. Multiplayer is actually that console's weakness (same with PS2 in some ways).

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Hence why I said traditional fighting games were best known on PS in that era, while N64 was covered with FPS (Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, The World is Not Enough), arcade-styIe racers (F-Zero, Mario Kart, Star Wars: Episode I Racer) and other four player centric games (Mario Party, Gauntlet Legends, Super Smash Bros.).

nintendoboy16

And what multitap games made the PlayStation the go to place for four player games like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Star Wars Racer, the N64 version of TWINE (the PS version lacked multiplayer), etc? Last I checked, the only huge multiplayer games on PS were traditional fighting games, primarily the Tekken franchise.

The PSOne may have been the most prefered console overall, but it wasn't preferred over everything. Multiplayer is actually that console's weakness (same with PS2 in some ways).

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Hence why I said traditional fighting games were best known on PS in that era, while N64 was covered with FPS (Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, The World is Not Enough), arcade-styIe racers (F-Zero, Mario Kart, Star Wars: Episode I Racer) and other four player centric games (Mario Party, Gauntlet Legends, Super Smash Bros.).

nintendoboy16

And what multitap games made the PlayStation the go to place for four player games like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Star Wars Racer, the N64 version of TWINE (the PS version lacked multiplayer), etc? Last I checked, the only huge multiplayer games on PS were traditional fighting games, primarily the Tekken franchise.

The PSOne may have been the most prefered console overall, but it wasn't preferred over everything. Multiplayer is actually that console's weakness (same with PS2 in some ways).

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"] The N64 did not cover arcade style racers more than the PSX. There are plenty of games that used the multitap. Shockwave-DASH

And what multitap games made the PlayStation the go to place for four player games like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Star Wars Racer, the N64 version of TWINE (the PS version lacked multiplayer), etc? Last I checked, the only huge multiplayer games on PS were traditional fighting games, primarily the Tekken franchise.

The PSOne may have been the most prefered console overall, but it wasn't preferred over everything. Multiplayer is actually that console's weakness (same with PS2 in some ways).

LOL mp was the consoles weakness. Not only did it have many 4 player games, but you are saying number means the N64 multiplayer was better, there are tons of 2 player games better than a lot of 4 player games on the N64 and vice-vesa.Shockwave-DASH

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"]LOL mp was the consoles weakness. Not only did it have many 4 player games, but you are saying number means the N64 multiplayer was better, there are tons of 2 player games better than a lot of 4 player games on the N64 and vice-vesa.nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Oh really? What arcade-racers on the PSOne matched the popularity Mario Kart 64, Star Wars: Racer, and F-Zero X had?

And what multitap games made the PlayStation the go to place for four player games like Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart, F-Zero, Star Wars Racer, the N64 version of TWINE (the PS version lacked multiplayer), etc? Last I checked, the only huge multiplayer games on PS were traditional fighting games, primarily the Tekken franchise.

The PSOne may have been the most prefered console overall, but it wasn't preferred over everything. Multiplayer is actually that console's weakness (same with PS2 in some ways).

nintendoboy16

nope. it's an ok console. There are some AWESOME games like Mario 64, Mariokart64, Golden eye 007, and Perfect Dark. but the controller is not very good (ugly, awkward, and not very versitale), and the library has a lot of garbage games. Definately the worst Nintendo console, but still not terrible like a Jaguar or a total letdown like the Saturn. I'll take my N64 over a Saturn, 3DO, or Jaguar anyday, but I like my PS1 and NES a LOT more.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Shockwave-DASH"]LOL mp was the consoles weakness. Not only did it have many 4 player games, but you are saying number means the N64 multiplayer was better, there are tons of 2 player games better than a lot of 4 player games on the N64 and vice-vesa.Shockwave-DASH

Also those games were highly rated by fans, most review sites overrated N64 games, seems Nintendo forgot to pay gamespot for Mario Kart 64 and they actually gave it a real score.

Most reviews now would say games like Mario Kart and others, with the exception of DKR, are not comparable to games like Crash and Speed Punks, and ridgeracers which gamers already decided back then. With reviewers regretting rating games like MK64 high. With its many flaws and cheating AI.Shockwave-DASH

Overrated as in you don't like them as well as EVERYTHING Nintendo that ISN'T GAMECUBE and SNES?

I fail to see YOUR points.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] its always "possible" , there are several Mega Drive games with FMVs, like Red Zone , or Sonic 3D blast , hell even the Gameboy version of cannon fodder had an opening FMV. just because its possible doesnt mean its suitable for it, I dare say the N64 would have never been able to have all the FMVs of the FF games, no matter how compressed they were.Darkman2007

At teh end of the day, though - Do FMV's really make a game better? Resident Evil 2, compared to most games today, is pure sh*t because of how clunky movement and aiming are. They were even clunky back then.

The N64's best didn't have it and didn't need, either. So, this point is moot. The N64 did indeed have an excellent library; howver, the controller was terrible and the analog stick wore down very quickly. The memory pak was also a great addition but...games that required it, not so much.

The other damning thing was Nintendo's 3rd-party support. Nintendo alienated them, so there are a lot of titles the N64 didn't get. However, after playing FF VII on PC, I'm glad I never bothered - but that isn't the point. Further, the Japan-exclusive titles hurt us a lot, too - as they always do.

It's not the worst console, but certainly not the best.

I never met a gaming system that I never like. Except for the X-Box, I never want any of my money going into their pockets.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Yeah, but FFVII had so much stuff compared to Resident Evil 2 and Pokemon Puzzle League, so it's not too fair to say.Apathetic_Prick

At teh end of the day, though - Do FMV's really make a game better? Resident Evil 2, compared to most games today, is pure sh*t because of how clunky movement and aiming are. They were even clunky back then.

The N64's best didn't have it and didn't need, either. So, this point is moot. The N64 did indeed have an excellent library; howver, the controller was terrible and the analog stick wore down very quickly. The memory pak was also a great addition but...games that required it, not so much.

The other damning thing was Nintendo's 3rd-party support. Nintendo alienated them, so there are a lot of titles the N64 didn't get. However, after playing FF VII on PC, I'm glad I never bothered - but that isn't the point. Further, the Japan-exclusive titles hurt us a lot, too - as they always do.

It's not the worst console, but certainly not the best.

screw youu guys........im goin home.......

fail thread. its probably on everyones top 3 list of best consoles ever.needweed

[QUOTE="needweed"]fail thread. its probably on everyones top 3 list of best consoles ever.TheKungFool

The N64 was great but it had no advantage over anything else. Same with the Gamecube. Then the Wii came out and was the best Nintendo system ever beating the SNES by a larger margin, and having improved SNES games on the Virtual Console.2x2towers

[QUOTE="2x2towers"]The N64 was great but it had no advantage over anything else. Same with the Gamecube. Then the Wii came out and was the best Nintendo system ever beating the SNES by a larger margin, and having improved SNES games on the Virtual Console.luckykoopsie

Yeah, Wii is definitely not Nintendo's best system by a long shot. Gamecube was much better IMO but the SNES is still the greatest.

[QUOTE="luckykoopsie"][QUOTE="2x2towers"]The N64 was great but it had no advantage over anything else. Same with the Gamecube. Then the Wii came out and was the best Nintendo system ever beating the SNES by a larger margin, and having improved SNES games on the Virtual Console.bowserjr123

Yeah, Wii is definitely not Nintendo's best system by a long shot. Gamecube was much better IMO but the SNES is still the greatest.

yeah I agree. in order of game quality and quality of console I'd rank SNES at the top and the Wii way down by the Virtual boy. the N64, NES, and GC were all better than the Wii (compared to other consoles released in their times)

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="needweed"]fail thread. its probably on everyones top 3 list of best consoles ever.luckykoopsie

"Terrible console"...

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

"Terrible console"...

2x2towers

[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

"Terrible console"...

2x2towers

Why are you bringing the Wii into this debate? I didn't mention the Wii once.

And yeah, nice opinion you have there...

some of nintendos best games of all time are on n64. games of quality and anyone who owns an n64 would agree. but explain more how much you dislike the system i need some more good laughs.

[QUOTE="luckykoopsie"]

some of nintendos best games of all time are on n64. games of quality and anyone who owns an n64 would agree. but explain more how much you dislike the system i need some more good laughs.

2x2towers

[QUOTE="luckykoopsie"][QUOTE="2x2towers"] If that was true than why would you not follow the best nintendo games to the next nintendo system? Or the one after that? Yes even the Wii, nintendo abandoned Star Fox, F-Zero, and OoT style and M64 style mario games for a reason. No one really liked them. They were bad. That's why they changed everything for the better on Wii. The best Nintendo games of all time?If they were that good then more than 5 games would have done super well on the N64, it would have sold more than like 30 million units, the GC continued the same styles of these "Great games" and no one brought them, so Nintendo changed things up and it worked. F-Zro, Starfox where never good series to begine with. Lol Starfox Adventures and Assualt. F-Zero GX and Xwere considered Meh atbest I have no idea how the fanbase just grew and came out of nowhere. I guess the GBA games? THere's no denying it, those games needed to be changed and the Wii changed up things and made the best Nintedo system to date.2x2towers