Is Zelda : Ocarina of Time the greatest game ever created?

greatest game ever, no.

i can't stand ocarina of time. recently...i bought it and tried to like it for the 3ds and it sold it after a couple months. i did the same thing back in the day with N64.

it had difficulty and just not enough pull for me to care about beating the challenges. also the music and charactesr are really irritating.

if you want to give it the award of one the most irritating game ever, i'm on board. i respect this game, but i personally didn't like its design.

greatest game ever, no.

i can't stand ocarina of time. recently...i bought it and tried to like it for the 3ds and it sold it after a couple months. i did the same thing back in the day with N64.

it had difficulty and just not enough pull for me to care about beating the challenges. also the music and charactesr are really irritating.

if you want to give it the award of one the most irritating game ever, i'm on board. i respect this game, but i personally didn't like its design.

twizzickle

Thats understandable, I can see how the game would irritate someone. It boggles my mind that OoT got as much critical acclaim as it did but I guess it did alot for the action adventure genre.

It gets better later on imo too as the first part of the game can be pretty annoying.

[QUOTE="twizzickle"]

greatest game ever, no.

i can't stand ocarina of time. recently...i bought it and tried to like it for the 3ds and it sold it after a couple months. i did the same thing back in the day with N64.

it had difficulty and just not enough pull for me to care about beating the challenges. also the music and charactesr are really irritating.

if you want to give it the award of one the most irritating game ever, i'm on board. i respect this game, but i personally didn't like its design.

ThumpyBowser

Thats understandable, I can see how the game would irritate someone. It boggles my mind that OoT got as much critical acclaim as it did but I guess it did alot for the action adventure genre.

It gets better later on imo too as the first part of the game can be pretty annoying.

No. It WAS the greatest game ever created. It gets very annoying when people are still jacking off to OOT after 15 freaking years! Every Zelda game that has come out since has been slapped on the ground by OOT fans. However, I think Majoras Mask is a bit overrated. I think MM is one of the weakest games in the series. Everyone says, "Well, you gotta get used to the timeline", but to be honest, the timeline was not the main problem. The timeline was kind of creative actually. The main problem was how short it was and how the timelinewas only used to extend the game. Replaying boss battles various times and having to do so many stupid side quests over and over just wasn't my idea of fun. However, I still like OOT and MM. I thinK Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword all deserve way more praise.

I think there really is no TRUE best game ever. Just games we like and dont like. I didnt even think OOT was the best game on the N64 back then. I thought it was Conker's Bad Fur Day and even I can admit, that game was not perfect. However, it was perfect to me. And I think that is what really matters. Fallout 3 is plagued with bugs and glitches, but in the end, none of that even mattered. I just loved it too damn much. And the same can be said for all games. No game out there is really perfect. They are only perfect to the eyes of the beholder.

No. It WAS the greatest game ever created. It gets very annoying when people are still jacking off to OOT after 15 freaking years! Every Zelda game that has come out since has been slapped on the ground by OOT fans. However, I think Majoras Mask is a bit overrated. I think MM is one of the weakest games in the series. Everyone says, "Well, you gotta get used to the timeline", but to be honest, the timeline was not the main problem. The timeline was kind of creative actually. The main problem was how short it was and how the timelinewas only used to extend the game. Replaying boss battles various times and having to do so many stupid side quests over and over just wasn't my idea of fun. However, I still like OOT and MM. I thinK Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, and Skyward Sword all deserve way more praise.

I think there really is no TRUE best game ever. Just games we like and dont like. I didnt even think OOT was the best game on the N64 back then. I thought it was Conker's Bad Fur Day and even I can admit, that game was not perfect. However, it was perfect to me. And I think that is what really matters. Fallout 3 is plagued with bugs and glitches, but in the end, none of that even mattered. I just loved it too damn much. And the same can be said for all games. No game out there is really perfect. They are only perfect to the eyes of the beholder.

Game mechanics improve with every generation of gaming. Fighting, action, first person shooting, RPG, you name it, any and every genre evolves and becomes more immersive and intuitive. Think of all the excellent gaming minds out there, all of the gaming development studios. I'd be shocked if gaming didn't evolve.

When talking greatest games of all time, you have to keep the discussion relative to when a particular game came out. It's not fair to compare Ocarina of Time to games today. The Z targeting system was revolutionary at the time, and ever since then, everyone has copied it and even enhanced it. When Ocarina of Time was released, it was clearly one of the best games out and it was not only ground breaking, but it was revolutionary. No one had seen anything like it, it was basically thought of as perfection.

Even though action adventure games like Zelda have evolved and improved (obviously) throughout the years and generations, Ocarina of Time still holds up surprisingly well.

Just look at the remake of Ocarina of Time for the 3DS, it is sitting at a 93.84% on Gamerankings.com

http://www.gamerankings.com/3ds/997842-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d/index.html

Ocarina of Time is a 5th generation game, and all it got was a graphical update, no changes to the actual gameplay, and yet it still managed to score that highly while being compared to the standards of this 7th generation of games. That really speaks volumes on just how great Ocarina of Time really was. I can't think of hardly any other 5th generation games that you could re-release now with no gameplay changes and still have it manage to score amongst the best games of all time, all while it is being held to the standards of a 7th generation title.

For all the people claiming reviewers had no standards back then, the Ocarina of Time 3D release and its reception pretty much counter that argument. Plus, if reviewers had no standards back then, then why didn't every game score as highly as Ocarina of Time?

Game mechanics improve with every generation of gaming. Fighting, action, first person shooting, RPG, you name it, any and every genre evolves and becomes more immersive and intuitive. Think of all the excellent gaming minds out there, all of the gaming development studios. I'd be shocked if gaming didn't evolve.

When talking greatest games of all time, you have to keep the discussion relative to when a particular game came out. It's not fair to compare Ocarina of Time to games today. The Z targeting system was revolutionary at the time, and ever since then, everyone has copied it and even enhanced it. When Ocarina of Time was released, it was clearly one of the best games out and it was not only ground breaking, but it was revolutionary. No one had seen anything like it, it was basically thought of as perfection.

Even though action adventure games like Zelda have evolved and improved (obviously) throughout the years and generations, Ocarina of Time still holds up surprisingly well.

Just look at the remake of Ocarina of Time for the 3DS, it is sitting at a 93.84% on Gamerankings.com

http://www.gamerankings.com/3ds/997842-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d/index.html

Ocarina of Time is a 5th generation game, and all it got was a graphical update, no changes to the actual gameplay, and yet it still managed to score that highly while being compared to the standards of this 7th generation of games. That really speaks volumes on just how great Ocarina of Time really was. I can't think of hardly any other 5th generation games that you could re-release now with no gameplay changes and still have it manage to score amongst the best games of all time, all while it is being held to the standards of a 7th generation title.

For all the people claiming reviewers had no standards back then, the Ocarina of Time 3D release and its reception pretty much counter that argument. Plus, if reviewers had no standards back then, then why didn't every game score as highly as Ocarina of Time?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Game mechanics improve with every generation of gaming. Fighting, action, first person shooting, RPG, you name it, any and every genre evolves and becomes more immersive and intuitive. Think of all the excellent gaming minds out there, all of the gaming development studios. I'd be shocked if gaming didn't evolve.

When talking greatest games of all time, you have to keep the discussion relative to when a particular game came out. It's not fair to compare Ocarina of Time to games today. The Z targeting system was revolutionary at the time, and ever since then, everyone has copied it and even enhanced it. When Ocarina of Time was released, it was clearly one of the best games out and it was not only ground breaking, but it was revolutionary. No one had seen anything like it, it was basically thought of as perfection.

Even though action adventure games like Zelda have evolved and improved (obviously) throughout the years and generations, Ocarina of Time still holds up surprisingly well.

Just look at the remake of Ocarina of Time for the 3DS, it is sitting at a 93.84% on Gamerankings.com

http://www.gamerankings.com/3ds/997842-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d/index.html

Ocarina of Time is a 5th generation game, and all it got was a graphical update, no changes to the actual gameplay, and yet it still managed to score that highly while being compared to the standards of this 7th generation of games. That really speaks volumes on just how great Ocarina of Time really was. I can't think of hardly any other 5th generation games that you could re-release now with no gameplay changes and still have it manage to score amongst the best games of all time, all while it is being held to the standards of a 7th generation title.

For all the people claiming reviewers had no standards back then, the Ocarina of Time 3D release and its reception pretty much counter that argument. Plus, if reviewers had no standards back then, then why didn't every game score as highly as Ocarina of Time?

Jakandsig_

I'm gonna call you out here.

Name the games that used Z targeting before Zelda Ocarina of Time.

Name "plenty" of games that came out before Ocarina of Time that are "like it".

Provide proof that all of the people that reviewed Ocarina of Time "only had an N64, a preference for the N64, and the lack of knowledge of all the other games".

78% of the Nintendo 64 library isn't even known? That's not true at all, in fact, I remember a lot of Rare games making a huge impact on gaming.

It sounds to me like you are partially delusional, and you have some personal dislike for Ocarina of Time for whatever reason. You're saying that the only people that bought Ocarina of Time are people that like Zelda games? No **** Sherlock, just like fans of Call of Duty buy Call of Duty and fans of Street Fighter buy Street Fighter.

You only see the same 8 games in every N64 best games topic? I'm pretty sure that you see the same 8 to 10 games in every console's best games topic.

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Game mechanics improve with every generation of gaming. Fighting, action, first person shooting, RPG, you name it, any and every genre evolves and becomes more immersive and intuitive. Think of all the excellent gaming minds out there, all of the gaming development studios. I'd be shocked if gaming didn't evolve.

When talking greatest games of all time, you have to keep the discussion relative to when a particular game came out. It's not fair to compare Ocarina of Time to games today. The Z targeting system was revolutionary at the time, and ever since then, everyone has copied it and even enhanced it. When Ocarina of Time was released, it was clearly one of the best games out and it was not only ground breaking, but it was revolutionary. No one had seen anything like it, it was basically thought of as perfection.

Even though action adventure games like Zelda have evolved and improved (obviously) throughout the years and generations, Ocarina of Time still holds up surprisingly well.

Just look at the remake of Ocarina of Time for the 3DS, it is sitting at a 93.84% on Gamerankings.com

http://www.gamerankings.com/3ds/997842-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d/index.html

Ocarina of Time is a 5th generation game, and all it got was a graphical update, no changes to the actual gameplay, and yet it still managed to score that highly while being compared to the standards of this 7th generation of games. That really speaks volumes on just how great Ocarina of Time really was. I can't think of hardly any other 5th generation games that you could re-release now with no gameplay changes and still have it manage to score amongst the best games of all time, all while it is being held to the standards of a 7th generation title.

For all the people claiming reviewers had no standards back then, the Ocarina of Time 3D release and its reception pretty much counter that argument. Plus, if reviewers had no standards back then, then why didn't every game score as highly as Ocarina of Time?

arkephonic

I'm gonna call you out here.

Name the games that used Z targeting before Zelda Ocarina of Time.

Name "plenty" of games that came out before Ocarina of Time that are "like it".

Provide proof that all of the people that reviewed Ocarina of Time "only had an N64, a preference for the N64, and the lack of knowledge of all the other games".

78% of the Nintendo 64 library isn't even known? That's not true at all, in fact, I remember a lot of Rare games making a huge impact on gaming.

It sounds to me like you are partially delusional, and you have some personal dislike for Ocarina of Time for whatever reason. You're saying that the only people that bought Ocarina of Time are people that like Zelda games? No **** Sherlock, just like fans of Call of Duty buy Call of Duty and fans of Street Fighter buy Street Fighter.

You only see the same 8 games in every N64 best games topic? I'm pretty sure that you see the same 8 to 10 games in every console's best games topic.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Targetting existed before Zelda, Z-targetting is not revolutionary, and the original intention for it has not been copied. I put that with the N made D-pad and Analog BS that is complety, as stated, BS. It barely BROKE ANY FREAKING GROUND. It was nt revolutionary, and when it came out it was not THE BEST. The overrating of this game astounds me. I had seen plenty of games like it. Most gamers at that timeonly wanted 2 consoles though so really most wouldn't even have known. It doesn't hold up at all well. Remake of overhyped game that mostly Zelda fans borught and the sales pattern of that is whithin the last 6-8 games as well. Most people will never admit they were wrong about it so yes people will still continue to overrate it yet in other places you see the same reviewers talk about something they like better. I mean just trying to attact people to them. It'sreception was based on the first reviewers only having an N64, a preference for the N64, and the lack of knowledge of all the other games as Nintendo hyped the game to hell and back and 78% of the N64 library is not even, and back then was, barely even KNOWN.(Not the only game N used that strategy with) purpose of it whch was to move many N64s, and of course they failed. I guess they were trying to go for those Crash FFVII type console movers, didn't work like that. That strategy backfired and you see the same 8 games in every N64 best games topic.Jakandsig_

I'm gonna call you out here.

Name the games that used Z targeting before Zelda Ocarina of Time.

Name "plenty" of games that came out before Ocarina of Time that are "like it".

Provide proof that all of the people that reviewed Ocarina of Time "only had an N64, a preference for the N64, and the lack of knowledge of all the other games".

78% of the Nintendo 64 library isn't even known? That's not true at all, in fact, I remember a lot of Rare games making a huge impact on gaming.

It sounds to me like you are partially delusional, and you have some personal dislike for Ocarina of Time for whatever reason. You're saying that the only people that bought Ocarina of Time are people that like Zelda games? No **** Sherlock, just like fans of Call of Duty buy Call of Duty and fans of Street Fighter buy Street Fighter.

You only see the same 8 games in every N64 best games topic? I'm pretty sure that you see the same 8 to 10 games in every console's best games topic.

Lol, good job dodging and not answering a single one of my questions calling you out. I see you have failed.

You should seriously work on your grammar, spelling and sentence structure. It's extremely difficult to decipher what you're trying to say.

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I'm gonna call you out here.

Name the games that used Z targeting before Zelda Ocarina of Time.

Name "plenty" of games that came out before Ocarina of Time that are "like it".

Provide proof that all of the people that reviewed Ocarina of Time "only had an N64, a preference for the N64, and the lack of knowledge of all the other games".

78% of the Nintendo 64 library isn't even known? That's not true at all, in fact, I remember a lot of Rare games making a huge impact on gaming.

It sounds to me like you are partially delusional, and you have some personal dislike for Ocarina of Time for whatever reason. You're saying that the only people that bought Ocarina of Time are people that like Zelda games? No **** Sherlock, just like fans of Call of Duty buy Call of Duty and fans of Street Fighter buy Street Fighter.

You only see the same 8 games in every N64 best games topic? I'm pretty sure that you see the same 8 to 10 games in every console's best games topic.

arkephonic

Lol, good job dodging and not answering a single one of my questions calling you out. I see you have failed.

You should seriously work on your grammar, spelling and sentence structure. It's extremely difficult to decipher what you're trying to say.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Z-Targetting. What is Z-targetting? Targetting. Regardless of what it's called it was not new and it also wasn;t used very well in the game especially and most obviously for combat. Which is broken to this very day although SS improved it a little bt and at the same time...... It's a scripted Action adventure game in 3D. I don't understand why you think there were not 3D action adventure games. Ask that question differently. Provide proof they didn't?Oh and you forgot one just reviewieng and joining the hype train just because or to attract users or subscriptions. Back then? Yes most didn;t know about half the games existence. While improved the same 8 best N64 game (I guess 10 is closer to the actual) are still in almost every list TODAY. Most of the library didn;t even sell above POOR. WTF does Rare have to do with anything I said N64 games that means EVERYTHING. There is no personal dislike, heck most reviewers only revewied some Saturn Ps1 and N64 games which also goes into effect here (Gen efore most games were only reviewed for GEn and SNES that trend continued kind of the gen we are talking about, if you are following gaming back in those 2 gens while they were going on the best way to know about games was to actually just get them yourself, the games that were advertised shown in mags or hogged the spotlight kept doing so and most other games were ignored. Which means the gneral public wouldn;t know much r anything about them.) You also completely missed the point with the Zelda fan thing but I guess you think I'm insulting Ocarina so your fanboy bias is blinding you from actually realizing what I said there. Reread that. COD fans buy COD? If you ask people or see a top N64 list it will be a short ass list compared to EVERY OTHER SYSTEM at that time. (except PC-FX and Amiga but at the same time...) I think you actually missed almost all points and just went into defense mode.Jakandsig_

Lol, good job dodging and not answering a single one of my questions calling you out. I see you have failed.

You should seriously work on your grammar, spelling and sentence structure. It's extremely difficult to decipher what you're trying to say.

LOL, what language is this complete mess of a post, it surely isn't English. I can't be bothered to read these complete train wrecks you call posts. Sorry.

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, good job dodging and not answering a single one of my questions calling you out. I see you have failed.

You should seriously work on your grammar, spelling and sentence structure. It's extremely difficult to decipher what you're trying to say.

arkephonic

LOL, what language is this complete mess of a post, it surely isn't English. I can't be bothered to read these complete train wrecks you call posts. Sorry.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Answer what questions? Are you stupid? I clearly addressed all your points, but hey you can't read. LET ME GO SLOW FOR YOU: NAME THE GAME THAT USED Z TARGETING: Your stupid I said targeting was not new, your question is irrelevant. Ztargetting is targeting regardless, the games you said evolved from it don;t call it Ztargetting either. Once again, you crap is irrelevant. SO before you fail anymore clarify. Because there are plenty of games like Zelda even on it's own system such as the Hercules games. All I get from this is that there is no Action Adventure title (Or platfomer with action elements with big worlds) with big worlds. If you ean no game has that and the mechanics you must explain it being vague is not a win it's a hid tactic. You completely didn;t include the part where I say some may also be just riding the train or trying to attract people. How come that's the only point you didn;t address? All the points even out. It's like saying the only people who borugh a PS3 is fo blu-ray, movies, and internet, but games sold so couldn;t they have brought games? Why did you leave games out? I mean you did that on purpose you just wanted to limit the options so you look smart. Not cool. I never said Ocarina fans only brought OoT, infact that sentence you missed red was isolated and clear as day with exact wording pointing to something else. COD fans by COD? The problem with this and the SS thing I mentioned is you didn't read it. Your last statement is full of crap and makes no sense and you wrote it so it can be interpreted 3 different ways because you can't organize sentences. Interesting. Irony. Then I am dodging questions now? Especially since you misread, backtracked, misread, been vague, did not give a full explanation, you failed to realize what I stated when it was clear, and in so cases you intentionally did to make yourself look smart. Now again, address these and I will address them back.Jakandsig_

LOL, what language is this complete mess of a post, it surely isn't English. I can't be bothered to read these complete train wrecks you call posts. Sorry.

Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and say you won the argument, because I can't even decipher what you're trying to say. Your English is absolutely abysmal, and unless English is not your first language, I have no idea why it would be this bad. I'm done reading your posts, they hurt my eyes, so this will be my last response to you. I could really care less about winning a Zelda argument if it requires deciphering the worst English I've ever had the misfortune to come across on Gamespot.

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

LOL, what language is this complete mess of a post, it surely isn't English. I can't be bothered to read these complete train wrecks you call posts. Sorry.

arkephonic

Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and say you won the argument, because I can't even decipher what you're trying to say. Your English is absolutely abysmal, and unless English is not your first language, I have no idea why it would be this bad. I'm done reading your posts, they hurt my eyes, so this will be my last response to you. I could really care less about winning a Zelda argument if it requires deciphering the worst English I've ever had the misfortune to come across on Gamespot.

Nope, but it was one of the best games during the N64/PS1 gen.

No, it's probably not even in the top 100 games of all time.

No, it's probably not even in the top 100 games of all time.

QuistisTrepe_

YOU ARE **** JOKING RIGHT????

This game is widely regarded as the best, do a **** google search, have you even **** played this if not shut the **** up because the entire game is a **** masterpiece.

There is plenty of depth, plot twists side quests, and replay value. Find all the gold skulltulas, find the heart pieces, do the dungeons without a guide.

I get pretty upset when peeps criticize a monument in gaming. This game is leagues better than gimmick mask (yes I do not give a **** about that garbage collectathon short game thats side quests are better than the main quest) It is a good game but OoT is another league.

This game founded the modern action adventure genre.

[QUOTE="QuistisTrepe_"]

No, it's probably not even in the top 100 games of all time.

Super_MooRio

YOU ARE **** JOKING RIGHT????

This game is widely regarded as the best, do a **** google search, have you even **** played this if not shut the **** up because the entire game is a **** masterpiece.

There is plenty of depth, plot twists side quests, and replay value. Find all the gold skulltulas, find the heart pieces, do the dungeons without a guide.

I get pretty upset when peeps criticize a monument in gaming. This game is leagues better than gimmick mask (yes I do not give a **** about that garbage collectathon short game thats side quests are better than the main quest) It is a good game but OoT is another league.

This game founded the modern action adventure genre.

Good lord bro. It's called opinions. Learn to deal with them.

Either that or he's trolling, and don't feed him.

Oh and Majora's Mask > OoT. Deal with it.

How is Majoras Mask better? Better at using the same **** engine, character models, and having less dungeons poor plot and a **** psycho Moon? Also why the **** is the moon even pulling that ****. The whole **** is not even B movie plot something like D plot.Super_MooRio

You need to calm the **Edit** down.

How is Majoras Mask better? Better at using the same **** engine, character models, and having less dungeons poor plot and a **** psycho Moon? Also why the **** is the moon even pulling that ****. The whole **** is not even B movie plot something like D plot.Super_MooRio

Are you kidding me? Calm down son.

Plot of OoT: Young boy must realize destiny and save the world from an impending evil.

SyFy movies sometimes follow that same damn plot. Story was nothing special it was just an epic adventure.

If you think MM has a poor plot then that's fine by me and I heartily disagree, but MM has so much more to offer in the form of atmosphere and character interaction than OoT ever will. It's your fault if you can't identify and appreciate the dark tone and atmosphere, along with all the little symbolism and intracacies embedded into the world of Termina.

EDIT: I think I butchered the spelling of intricacies or whatever someone correct me please lol.

..."Gimmick Mask" actually has dungeons you MAY need a guide for. Yep I went for it. I am not joking either.Jakandsig_

The only time I used a guide in Majoras Mask was on the last boss of the Great Bay Temple and I knew how to fight it and basically only used the guide to learn how to heal (catch a fairy in a bottle).

Are you kidding me? Calm down son.

Plot of OoT: Young boy must realize destiny and save the world from an impending evil.

SyFy movies sometimes follow that same damn plot. Story was nothing special it was just an epic adventure.

If you think MM has a poor plot then that's fine by me and I heartily disagree, but MM has so much more to offer in the form of atmosphere and character interaction than OoT ever will. It's your fault if you can't identify and appreciate the dark tone and atmosphere, along with all the little symbolism and intracacies embedded into the world of Termina.

EDIT: I think I butchered the spelling of intricacies or whatever someone correct me please lol.

MLBknights58

Nothing special about an EPIC adventure... Yeah great oxymoron.

Why do you disagree, why the **** is the moon ****? Nothing is really explained in the ***ing game and the **** sidequest has a better story (the Anju Keifi one).

How does Majora's Mask have that much more of a dark atmosphere than Majoras Mask speaking as someone who played both... I appreciate Majora's Mask but OoT is argueably darker in atmosphere.

There is **** symbolism metaphor and literary **** in every game please...

Majoras Mask is not **** shakespare so stop trying to make it one.

Do not call me "son" wtf you patronizing mother **** Are you trying to call me a **** kid?

Nothing special about an EPIC adventure... Yeah great oxymoron.

Why do you disagree, why the **** is the moon ****? Nothing is really explained in the ***ing game and the **** sidequest has a better story (the Anju Keifi one).

How does Majora's Mask have that much more of a dark atmosphere than Majoras Mask speaking as someone who played both... I appreciate Majora's Mask but OoT is argueably darker in atmosphere.

There is **** symbolism metaphor and literary **** in every game please...

Majoras Mask is not **** shakespare so stop trying to make it one.

Super_MooRio

Do not call me "son" wtf you patronizing mother **** Are you trying to call me a **** kid?

Nothing special about an EPIC adventure... Yeah great oxymoron.

Why do you disagree, why the **** is the moon ****? Nothing is really explained in the ***ing game and the **** sidequest has a better story (the Anju Keifi one).

How does Majora's Mask have that much more of a dark atmosphere than Majoras Mask speaking as someone who played both... I appreciate Majora's Mask but OoT is argueably darker in atmosphere.

There is **** symbolism metaphor and literary **** in every game please...

Majoras Mask is not **** shakespare so stop trying to make it one.

Super_MooRio

This is the best post I've ever read.

This is the best post I've ever read.

CarnageHeart

Glad someone is with me on OoT > MM, I love MM but the fanbase infuriates me, they are like the FF7 fans.

Majora's Mask is better than OoT and way way way more dark and twisted. Best sidequests in video game history as well. Termina so much more interesting than Hyrule in OoT.dvader654

**** TERMINA! Worst field in a Zelda game.

I love Clocktown but **** that field. Hyrule field does not have this mother **** steal your hard earned **** and you have to buy it back...

Funny **** is you have no idea where to buy your **** back and you have to roam clocktown to find the place.

I concede that the main town is better in Majoras Mask and Romani ranch is better in most areas as well.

Ocarina did not require you to buy a $30 accessory to play it.

Ocarina does not make you a **** flowerboy that everyone treats like **** Ocarina lets you go straight into dungeoning and gameplay. Majora gets better slowly and is rather short for the main game when it is getting pretty fun. (loved the last area).

Here is the kicker... OoT's sidequests were not complicated ****. Majoras Mask you have to do aton of trial and error and the plot and everything in the main story is a mess. Why is the moon such a ****? Why? Ganondorf had reasoning atleast and was a great villian in comparison.

You guys are making me loathe Majoras Mask when I actually enjoyed it... I would give it a 90 but not the God Tier 100/100 I would give Ocarina of Time. The game still is perfect unless you love CGI and graphics.

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"]..."Gimmick Mask" actually has dungeons you MAY need a guide for. Yep I went for it. I am not joking either.Super_MooRio

The only time I used a guide in Majoras Mask was on the last boss of the Great Bay Temple and I knew how to fight it and basically only used the guide to learn how to heal (catch a fairy in a bottle).

Are you kidding me? Calm down son.

Plot of OoT: Young boy must realize destiny and save the world from an impending evil.

SyFy movies sometimes follow that same damn plot. Story was nothing special it was just an epic adventure.

If you think MM has a poor plot then that's fine by me and I heartily disagree, but MM has so much more to offer in the form of atmosphere and character interaction than OoT ever will. It's your fault if you can't identify and appreciate the dark tone and atmosphere, along with all the little symbolism and intracacies embedded into the world of Termina.

EDIT: I think I butchered the spelling of intricacies or whatever someone correct me please lol.

MLBknights58

Nothing special about an EPIC adventure... Yeah great oxymoron.

Why do you disagree, why the **** is the moon ****? Nothing is really explained in the ***ing game and the **** sidequest has a better story (the Anju Keifi one).

How does Majora's Mask have that much more of a dark atmosphere than Majoras Mask speaking as someone who played both... I appreciate Majora's Mask but OoT is argueably darker in atmosphere.

There is **** symbolism metaphor and literary **** in every game please...

Majoras Mask is not **** shakespare so stop trying to make it one.

I.. what?

I mean..I don't even...

Huh? :|

I'm done here.

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]Do not call me "son" wtf you patronizing mother **** Are you trying to call me a **** kid?

Nothing special about an EPIC adventure... Yeah great oxymoron.

Why do you disagree, why the **** is the moon ****? Nothing is really explained in the ***ing game and the **** sidequest has a better story (the Anju Keifi one).

How does Majora's Mask have that much more of a dark atmosphere than Majoras Mask speaking as someone who played both... I appreciate Majora's Mask but OoT is argueably darker in atmosphere.

There is **** symbolism metaphor and literary **** in every game please...

Majoras Mask is not **** shakespare so stop trying to make it one.

RandoIph

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Super_MooRio"]

Lol, Majora's Mask was amazing but so many NPCs were just cut and paste from OoT.

There are a couple new NPCs like the mail guy and chick at the mayors office.

Majoras Mask basically only has one town and while I like it more there is less diversity of the cities.

Majoras Mask had less dungeons and the bosses were all easy except the ones in great bay temple (at first if you do not have bottles) and the last boss if you do not have all the masks.

How is Majora's mask so much better than OoT when so much is recycled?

Dy_WarriorsXoXo

The story is like a million times better, the atmosphere is insane, there are tons of sidequests, the side activities are more enjoyable, everything can be repeated (like if you like a sidequest you can repeat it as many times as you want), the overworld is more well designed and has more secrets...

Also, you know that most of the people are supposed to look like they're form OoT? Termina is a parallel universe to Hyrule, with same looking people but different personalities etc...

So parrelel world = same character models?

With games like Chrono Cross it was understandable since it was in the same game. (Even though idk if I would classify the worlds in that game as parrelel.

Why was this parrelel universe not mentioned in Majoras Mask... Howcome there are some brand new character models?

Also since when does being parallel worlds = same people?

The environments are not the same.

I disagree on better overworld, Termina field was pretty bad imo. Especially that bird lol and killing it really made gathering rupies a piece of cake.

I did like the different regions outside of Termina more but that is all preference imo.

Also while I like the look of Skull kid alot more, Ganondorf is a much better antagonist and the plot (while I do not care that much for) was better in OoT as well.

Majoras Mask wins in variety with the four forms and all the masks and sidequests, I agree with you on that.

Both games are not the holy grail of gaming though but atleast Majoras Mask is not widely heralded as such.

I disagree with most of what you said.

I beleive the parallel worl was mentioned in either the beggining of the game or the instruction booklet. I know it was mentioned somewhere. And there are some new ones because there are?

When did I say anything about environments...

When I say overworld I mean the entire game world, all four regions, the field, Clock Town...

And I like Skull Kid better because he is essentially a lost child who stumbled onto something evil and became its puppet.

This is the best post I've ever read.

CarnageHeart

The funniest thing is that he doesn't realize you were making fun of him.

No.Morrowind is.

Termina has the main theme song play while you explore, OoT does not. Termina >>> Hyrule. Plus Great Bay is one of the greatest locations ever.dvader654

The funniest thing is that he doesn't realize you were making fun of him.

S0lidSnake

If that is true then I take back my praise of him and do not give a **** what he says.

No.Morrowind is.

nedim100

Well... this thread sure took an interesting (and very entertaining) turn. I should probably lock it, but... I think I'll leave it for now.

EDIT: And while we're on the subject of what the best Zelda game is, that would be Skyward Sword, with Majora's Mask right behind it.

Well... this thread sure took an interesting (and very entertaining) turn. I should probably lock it, but... I think I'll leave it for now.

c_rake

It's kinda fun to watch a complete freakout meltdown.rragnaar

Totally. Hopefully our presence won't kill the thread.

He's seemed to have calmed down from last night. Hopefully he'll ratchet it up a few notches more. Maybe some bait, anyone?

Do not call me "son" wtf you patronizing mother **** Are you trying to call me a **** kid?

Nothing special about an EPIC adventure... Yeah great oxymoron.

Why do you disagree, why the **** is the moon ****? Nothing is really explained in the ***ing game and the **** sidequest has a better story (the Anju Keifi one).

How does Majora's Mask have that much more of a dark atmosphere than Majoras Mask speaking as someone who played both... I appreciate Majora's Mask but OoT is argueably darker in atmosphere.

There is **** symbolism metaphor and literary **** in every game please...

Majoras Mask is not **** shakespare so stop trying to make it one.

Super_MooRio

He's seemed to have calmed down from last night. Hopefully he'll ratchet it up a few notches more. Maybe some bait, anyone?

MirkoS77

Very tempted to keep baiting, but I feel bad for the poor fellow.

Maybe he has a dog named OoT and he thinks I kicked it or something.

Lol,what's up with that guy?

Is he 8 or something?

XD

Anyway,as i said before,it's impossible for ANY game to have that priveledge.