Its time for a new generation of consoles given the upcoming games.

[QUOTE="Jbul"]I don't know what kind of connection you're using (I'm using wireless), but downloading much smaller games than 8GB has taken me 2+ hours on PSN (and that doesn't include the actual install or update downloads which could add another hour). The f***ing service is rediculously, inexcusably slow. The yearly fee for XBL is seriously worth the lightning fast download times in and of itself. I also very rarely install games on my 360, and they run fine. I don't hear my 360 "moan like a w****" because I have my volume and subwoofer cranked up too high to hear the pitiful humming. Whenever people complain about that I always think it's hilarious.S0lidSnake

Im confused, i thought we were talking about installs, not downloads. :(

I dont download much from XBL, but PSN always gets me 1MBps downloads on wifi. Downloaded the 1.7GB BF3 beta in exactly 17 minutes yesterday. What kinda service are you using? Cable/DSL? Run the internet connection test from the XMB, it should tell you what your download speed is. I get 7Mb downloads and 700K uploads on wifi. My connection is capable of 10Mbps on wired.

As for installs, I have an Arcade 360 and when the discs starts spinning that's all i hear. I can probably find you some vids on youtube. Also, installing games on your HDD can speed up loading times and even better texture streaming in some cases. So i would highly recommend it.

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

[QUOTE="Jbul"]I don't know what kind of connection you're using (I'm using wireless), but downloading much smaller games than 8GB has taken me 2+ hours on PSN (and that doesn't include the actual install or update downloads which could add another hour). The f***ing service is rediculously, inexcusably slow. The yearly fee for XBL is seriously worth the lightning fast download times in and of itself. I also very rarely install games on my 360, and they run fine. I don't hear my 360 "moan like a w****" because I have my volume and subwoofer cranked up too high to hear the pitiful humming. Whenever people complain about that I always think it's hilarious.Jbul

Im confused, i thought we were talking about installs, not downloads. :(

I dont download much from XBL, but PSN always gets me 1MBps downloads on wifi. Downloaded the 1.7GB BF3 beta in exactly 17 minutes yesterday. What kinda service are you using? Cable/DSL? Run the internet connection test from the XMB, it should tell you what your download speed is. I get 7Mb downloads and 700K uploads on wifi. My connection is capable of 10Mbps on wired.

As for installs, I have an Arcade 360 and when the discs starts spinning that's all i hear. I can probably find you some vids on youtube. Also, installing games on your HDD can speed up loading times and even better texture streaming in some cases. So i would highly recommend it.

im sure the fact that im on psn all the time annoys you the most. :P

Honestly I don't think it's the right time to release new systems. It feels like it's too soon IMO.

PlayBox39

[QUOTE="PlayBox39"]

Honestly I don't think it's the right time to release new systems. It feels like it's too soon IMO.

gmaster456

I think the reason it feels too soon to a lot of people (not necessarily the person you quoted) is that many of them weren't able to buy in when the systems were stupidly priced for the first half of the cycle. That still doesn't change the fact that the hardware is dated.

I think the reason it feels too soon to a lot of people (not necessarily the person you quoted) is that many of them weren't able to buy in when the systems were stupidly priced for the first half of the cycle. That still doesn't change the fact that the hardware is dated.Shame-usBlackley

Pretty much. If Sony and Microsoft were smarter about how they priced their systems at launch, we'd have probably had all the next-gen systems announced by now. As it stands, though, they're probably gonna try to keep these systems going for as long as they can so they can try making back some of what they lost early on in this console generation.

[QUOTE="Jbul"][QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

Im confused, i thought we were talking about installs, not downloads. :(

I dont download much from XBL, but PSN always gets me 1MBps downloads on wifi. Downloaded the 1.7GB BF3 beta in exactly 17 minutes yesterday. What kinda service are you using? Cable/DSL? Run the internet connection test from the XMB, it should tell you what your download speed is. I get 7Mb downloads and 700K uploads on wifi. My connection is capable of 10Mbps on wired.

As for installs, I have an Arcade 360 and when the discs starts spinning that's all i hear. I can probably find you some vids on youtube. Also, installing games on your HDD can speed up loading times and even better texture streaming in some cases. So i would highly recommend it.

S0lidSnake

im sure the fact that im on psn all the time annoys you the most. :P