Majora's Mask - Best Game of all Time?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

 

And with that, I realize you are a lost cause

TheKungFool

*Holds out hand and waits for a shake*

it's all good :P.  I was only poking fun, not actually being serious as if your opinion can be wrong.  I do strongly disagree with it, but hey, if Zelda has proven anything on here, it is that everyone loves a different entry and for different reasons.  Skyward Sword to me, was garbage compared to the others (though a good game on its own).

PS - my best friend doesn't like Majora's Mask, but loves Zelda. I don't get him either ;)

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

And with that, I realize you are a lost cause

NaveedLife

*Holds out hand and waits for a shake*

it's all good :P. I was only poking fun, not actually being serious as if your opinion can be wrong. I do strongly disagree with it, but hey, if Zelda has proven anything on here, it is that everyone loves a different entry and for different reasons. Skyward Sword to me, was garbage compared to the others (though a good game on its own).

PS - my best friend doesn't like Majora's Mask, but loves Zelda. I don't get him either ;)

No, final fantasy ix is

it is loved by those who revel in exoticism, dark and twisted, psychological warfare. it's hard repetitive nature is what makes it a success. though, for the same reason it is far from mass appeal. there's no doubt the end product is a fine work of art, but meant to be obscure. it's my favorite zelda. i get attached emotionally by way of its forced repetition, rather than put off by itZachMasta

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

I am almost always a lost cause when it comes to putting up with ignorance or arrogance, though perhaps those tones in your post was unintentional?

look, mate, all due respect, but when you make statements like "your opinion was okay until..." it just comes across as needlessly pompous, like you're some sort of opinion validator, like I should care about your appraisal of my own personal and subjective opinion.
and then when I say I don't like game, you describe how it works for me, as if I just didn't "get it" or something?
sorry if I over-reacted mate, perhaps I misread sarcasm as arrogance? hard to tell emotional inflection in text, but how you said what you said just came off rather arrogant.

but no harm done, I appologize if I misread your attitude.

that said, Majora's Mask is still my least favorite Zelda, and its because I do not like the 3 day cycle and repetition element.
and thats a fair and honest opinion which requires no validation on your part.

also, that opinion shouldn't seem so shocking really, given that "Majora's Mask" has been widely regarded as the most polarizing Zelda title (by that I simply mean that people tend to either love it or hate it, and I'm hardly the only person on the hated it side)

TheKungFool

*Holds out hand and waits for a shake*

it's all good :P. I was only poking fun, not actually being serious as if your opinion can be wrong. I do strongly disagree with it, but hey, if Zelda has proven anything on here, it is that everyone loves a different entry and for different reasons. Skyward Sword to me, was garbage compared to the others (though a good game on its own).

PS - my best friend doesn't like Majora's Mask, but loves Zelda. I don't get him either ;)

1. My problems with SS were not the motion controls, though I didn't like the lack of camera movement with an analog stick
2. Have you played TP with both control styles?  I only played it with motion controls, which have pros and cons.  I hate the sword swinging in TP with motion, but I like aiming the bow and such.
3. Did you played MM when it was released, or later on?  I never hated the N64 controllers when they were the current thing, but now I do.

MM is the best 3D Zelda game.

[QUOTE="final_lap"]

For me the 2 criteria for best is lastability and wide appeal.

Zelda games do not have replay value therefore they cannot be considered best.

tchurch95

Novel-like is a good way of putting it.

it is loved by those who revel in exoticism, dark and twisted, psychological warfare. it's hard repetitive nature is what makes it a success. though, for the same reason it is far from mass appeal. there's no doubt the end product is a fine work of art, but meant to be obscure. it's my favorite zelda. i get attached emotionally by way of its forced repetition, rather than put off by itZachMasta

To me it's basically the dark Souls of the series. the most challenging for sure, the most mysterious, the most intriguing, etc. (Rather, DS is a lot like Majora's Mask in that regard).  And I agree about the forced repetition. To me, it wasn't a bad thing. It was a way to enhance the atmosphere in a brilliant and unique way.

1. My problems with SS were not the motion controls, though I didn't like the lack of camera movement with an analog stick
2. Have you played TP with both control styles? I only played it with motion controls, which have pros and cons. I hate the sword swinging in TP with motion, but I like aiming the bow and such.
3. Did you played MM when it was released, or later on? I never hated the N64 controllers when they were the current thing, but now I do.

NaveedLife

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

My problems with SS were not the motion controls, though I didn't like the lack of camera movement with an analog stickHave you played TP with both control styles? I only played it with motion controls, which have pros and cons. I hate the sword swinging in TP with motion, but I like aiming the bow and such.Did you played MM when it was released, or later on? I never hated the N64 controllers when they were the current thing, but now I do.

TheKungFool

It is my favorite game. I know a lot of people are put off by the time limit, but I think it was excellently executed.

While I don't consider Majora's Mask the best game of all time, I tend to respect it more than any other game I've ever played and it's all because of that brilliant and innovative time mechanic. The world felt alive and more real than any other world I've ever experienced simply because these characters were living their lives out before your eyes. You could watch a character live out their 3 remaining days. That's something no other game has ever done. It just blows my mind that all these characters had their own trackable actions that corresponded to certain points in time and that you could choose which timeline path you wanted to go down each time you restarted the last days of Termina.

This concept and exicution was absolutely masterful and if it wasn't done back on the N64 well over a decade ago I'd think it would have believed it impossible to accomplish now in 2013. It's truly remarkable.

While I don't consider Majora's Mask the best game of all time, I tend to respect it more than any other game I've ever played and it's all because of that brilliant and innovative time mechanic. The world felt alive and more real than any other world I've ever experienced simply because these characters were living their lives out before your eyes. You could watch a character live out their 3 remaining days. That's something no other game has ever done. It just blows my mind that all these characters had their own trackable actions that corresponded to certain points in time and that you could choose which timeline path you wanted to go down each time you restarted the last days of Termina.

This concept and exicution was absolutely masterful and if it wasn't done back on the N64 well over a decade ago I'd think it would have believed it impossible to accomplish now in 2013. It's truly remarkable.

Pikminmaniac

I personally think that the only way to truly be deemed worthy of judging a game is to complete it, or at least finish it in what is close to its entirety.

Let that be a lesson to people who support games without having beaten them! Tell me how it goes.tchurch95

[QUOTE="tchurch95"]

I personally think that the only way to truly be deemed worthy of judging a game is to complete it, or at least finish it in what is close to its entirety.

Let that be a lesson to people who support games without having beaten them! Tell me how it goes.TheKungFool

[QUOTE="tchurch95"]

I personally think that the only way to truly be deemed worthy of judging a game is to complete it, or at least finish it in what is close to its entirety.

Let that be a lesson to people who support games without having beaten them! Tell me how it goes.TheKungFool

[QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

[QUOTE="tchurch95"]

I personally think that the only way to truly be deemed worthy of judging a game is to complete it, or at least finish it in what is close to its entirety.

Let that be a lesson to people who support games without having beaten them! Tell me how it goes.tchurch95

[QUOTE="tchurch95"][QUOTE="TheKungFool"]

not sure I agree with either of those statements to be honest, though much respect.

I think that provided you've spend a fair/decent amount of time with a game, that is sufficient to judge it.
If a game hasn't impressed you by the walfway point, its reasonable to assume its not going to get that much better.
If it does, then the maker should be ashamed their game took so long to become interesting.

also, if you're a good 1/3 or 1/2 into a game and its amazing, I don't necessarily see finishing it as a requirement to say its good.

I mean, you don't need to finish Shaq-Fu to know it sucked, and while I have never been skilled enough to beat it, I don't think that makes me unable to say "Ikaruga" is a good game.

TheKungFool

I know where he is coming from, since really to give an exact rating, you need to beat it, but with that said, if a game is so awful you cant bring yourself to beating it, isnt that saying something? :P