Mass effect andromeda IS a really good game!

Ok so I just made this account today, cause I was sick of seeing all the bashing on mass effect andromeda. These critics on this site must be high, cause they got no idea what they're doing rating it a 6.

Im just an average gamer, I work, I parent, I sleep, and I try to squeeze in a game or 2.

I've played all the mass effects, and this game IS another mass effect! No more, no less, it IS MASS EFFECT! To all the nerds who care about graphic bugs and voice acting, just stop already. It's not a bad game AT ALL!! It's the exact opposite of a bad game. It's fucking awesome! I've been playing about 12+'hours and I knew coming in there was gonna be a lot of dialog and adventuring. But guess what, it's an action/RPG!! The gameplay and the nostalgia of playing a mass effect game takes over everything.

Oh no, so there's a few glitchy graphics here and there. Boo fucking hoo. Cry me a river Justin.

And for the critics saying there's too many "fetch" quests and "pointless" dialog... seriously? I'm enjoying all the dialog! And enjoying all the side quests thrown at me! And there is TONS!!

So to some this all up, don't listen to these loser nerds that hold a controller in 1 hand and their dick in the other cause they can't get a girlfriend cause they're too busy eating a pizza sub from subway playing video games in their moms basement their whole life. This is an awesome game!

And I would easily rate it 8.5/10 ! Easy!

If the minor graphic issues were fixed, it would be a 9/10 hands down.

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Yes it is a good game, and general reviews back that up.

For some reason people on these forums think GameSpot review is all that matters.

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I think ME:A illustrates how much the audience for videogames has broadened. People consume videogames in various ways and some people seem to have a problem realizing/accepting that. It's clear this game divides audiences and I think cases can be made for and against it. I just don't get why some people seem to have so much difficulty accepting that experiences are opposed to their own. I mean, you can discuss the pros and cons in a healthy fashion, but some people on either side simply seem agitated or annoyed if their experience doesn't align with a significant part of the people who comment on the internet.

unfortunately reviewers aren't reliable anymore. gamespot gave Alien Isolation a low score, but i enjoyed it much more than some other game which got 10 here.

i'd disagree with that. skimming through the review summaries on metacritic cemented everything gs had said but some just had more of a "put a brave face on it" kind of spin.

nearly all started with a "these bits are pretty good" and then followed with a rather large and significant "but..." and that's what's really put me off the game, not gamespot's review alone. i'd have loved it to be great, mass effect 1 is up there with the best games of last gen for me, and a huge, epic, this-gen space opera is massively appealing but for me the criticism is just too universal for me to doubt its legitimacy, despite what our good friend terminator2017 says

@Macutchi: rating of 74, thats pretty good.

Not world beating but good

The only thing going for this game is combat that's it. This is a " supposedly a triple A game" well then it should be held to a certain standard. Graphically let's compare it with BF1 since it uses the same engine and BF1 wins hands down nuff said. Next the story, pretty fucking bland when compared to Witcher 3 hell even the uncharted series has more life to it and that comes down to the writers. IMO this new BW team is so overrated now it's laughable. And more and more people are realizing it. With all that said it's really a typical BW game that comes down to a hate it or love it game.

Why do you think ME1 is great? For me It is the balance between the RPG (including a decent leveling system) and shooter. There has yet to be a game that comes close to the balance or being better.

@loafofgame: agree 100%!

I don't think it's a good comparison to compare ME:A to BF1 even though they use the same game engine, it's two different game genres. All rpg games should be compared to The Witcher 3 at this point in time when it comes to story writing, graphics and even voice acting within the rpg genre. Bioware and Bethesda really needs to step up their game if they want to hang with CDPR. Btw the Uncharted comparison was not a good comparison either, that series actually got a pretty descent story and great voice acting

I've yet to play the game but having read a lot of reviews and opinions from different sources, I think all the hate towards ME: A has been overblown out of proportion. The game has improved combat and exploration compared to the trilogy but not as good characters and dialogue. Plus some obvious flaws like the animations and other glitches. It all depends on what matters most to each critic, hence the varied opinions - some dislike it and find it meh or average, while others consider it a good or even great game.

And all the complaints about the plethora of boring fetch quests were also quite prevalent in Inquisition as well but that game got a 9 on GS and was generally praised. So without having played the game and considering that bugs and glitches don't detract from my enjoyment of games, I think it's easily an 8/10, maybe more - I'll know when I play it. My general feel of the game is that it's not as amazing as the Witcher 3 or the trilogy and yes it's a little disappointing that it missed its chance to be something extraordinary but still a good game on its own.

but this is mass effect. it's HUGE. and pretty good is really disappointing for a game of this magnitude, in my eyes. but you're right, objectively speaking 74 / 100 is a good score, it's an A if you're in education. but it's the review snippets and what they say that i focus more on, not so much the numbers.

yep me too. it had the right balance of rpg and action and the story was fantastic. all the strands of the game combined together to make a really interesting and believable universe. it wasn't overloaded with meaningless side missions either. it was rough around the edges but that was almost part of its charm. brilliant game and best in the series in my eyes. me2 may have been more streamlined but had none of the pacing or blockbusting story like the first. it felt just like one long and comparatively dull recruitment drive to me

I'm enjoying it so far... it certainly hasn't pulled me in early on like the other Mass Effects did, but it's slowly but surely getting better as I make my way further in.

@ojmstr: but by pure graphics of what frostbite is capable? Ahh yes BF1 winsl lol. And that's why I brought up Witcher3 and uncharted series because they were top notch compared to Andromeda. Don't know if you or I misunderstood but that's what I meant. The story of amdromeda just feels cold and stale. I might try it again when it drops in bargain bin and / or if patches comes along

A score of "6" still means the game is above average, it just has serious flaws. Which Andromeda does. Just because you don't mind those flaws, doesn't make the review invalid.

@csward: yes, it does. The review is seriously invalid. Catch me on battle app

@bowaddict4l: I see what your saying, by pure graphics your absolutely right, BE1 has way better graphics than ME:A but putting a shooter side by side with an rpg in the graphics departement feels like apples and oranges when you compare the two, way harder to achieve great graphics in an open world rpg game than in a closed shooter game.

I agree with you on what your saying about The Witcher 3 and Uncharted, im playing both right now, second playtrhough on The Witcher 3 and finishing Uncharted 4 for the first time now, right at the end i think.

So many great games out now, i was hoping ME:A would be a great game but if it's a descent game it's still good, maybe not TW3 good but it's probably worth it when the price drops for me at least, i will give it a go some time later probably, huge sci-fi fan here:)

Even with some of the technical issues, I'm having a blast with MEA. I might be jumping the gun but I can see this as being one of my favorite games of the current gen.

@ojmstr: oh I know two different games but damn you'd think graphically they'd be basically equal with each other. But yeah same here big sci-fi fan. Hopefully we'll get cybounk later this year or early next year

I think it's probably a true 7...

...but then you have people going "Well, I do love Bioware, and Mass Effect....so I'm going to be generous and give it an 8 or even an 8.5!"

...or you have people going "WTF BIOWARE! I EXPECT MORE! 6!!!!! 6!!!! DAMN YOUR BETRAYAL!"

All you can do is do what I did and impulse buy it, and find out for yourself :P

Starting in 3...2...1...

it feels a lot like Inquisition adapted to guns. There's a lot of similarities with respect to how your path through the game is structured. Not a surprise. If that bothers you...

Outside of driving up hills, I think it's fun. I'm not compelled by a singular narrative, but rather the experience of actually visiting planets and dealing with the kind of issues that arise in being a space pioneer. I actually think that's enough. While there is a "big baddy." i think the concept of a singular evil from which all adversity derives is kind of...juvenile?..simple? I don't want to be insulting, just game stories could stand to grow a bit. What i'm trying to say is if the the Kett angle never gets interesting, I don't see that as being a problem to me. The idea of spending 50 or so hours of building up a fledgling network of colonies, managing the bureaucrats and the dissidents, experimenting with the skill system (which is deeper than it's ever been for this franchise) has me hooked right now.

I don't know why people are arguing graphics, though. BioWare games have always been pretty middle of the road compared to their contemporaries. I mean, I'd love it if it looked like Horizon, but this has never been Bioware's talent.

Doesn't seem like a highly polished game and for an RPG having stilted dialogue or terrible animations is extremely distracting. Look at Witcher 3 conversations compared to this.

Bioware has had plenty of time for polish. Seems like they just reused old skeletons

Reviews have not been reliable since they went away from being actually journalists and into the "hobby based" most of the reviewers today has no journalistic education what so ever and most are either random games with a talent for writing or English Lit majors who was lucky to get hired.

As to Mass Effect Andromeda

It´s a ok game despite the bugs but it´s clear that it´s not made by the same Bioware studio as the previous.

Starting to get too repetitive for me, and too much open world filler... needed to be more compact & story focused like the first 3 IMO.

It comes down to expectations. The other games in the series scored 8.5 or higher. At any rate, i agree that the scores are arbitrary and i sometimes find myself enjoying games that received much lower score in general. I don't think you should discard games receiving as low as 7.5 on the grand scale of things.

At any rate, even the lower reviews aren't bashing the game as being no fun. The complains come from the writing and the technical side of things, such as character animations. They create a disbelief that prevents immersion.

I'm sure the game is still loaded with qualities making it worth a go. Again, maybe not at the current asking price.

I'm loving it. Holy shit, caught me off guard. Totally different than the original series.

The original series is like, OK I'm going to fight my way through this level, maybe talk to some folks, then return to base and refresh a bit then do it all over again.

ME:A is all "Hey, let's go exploring!" and it's so awesome. Combat is there, and significant so I don't want to say it takes a backseat...but it does in some sense. There's a lot more exploration, talking, roleplaying, discovery, and so forth this time around than combat and it's great!

Honestly, 80% of my problems I have with the game are purely technical, and you can get over half of them by pretending the NPCs are muppets (i.e. only their bodies and mouths move) lol. There are some issues with lighting, sometimes two of the same NPC showing up at the same time, and at one time a game-breaking bug that required me to load a previous save (that forced me to fight through a frustrating, repetitive battle).

But overall, a pleasant surprise, and a lot of fun.

If Shepard was Audie Murphy, the famous badass soldier everyone knows; then Ryder is Indiana Jones or, I don't know, some badass explorer.

I get a little of that too, which is why I just hop back on the main mission/quest and it starts to feel focused again.

@mrbojangles25: **** yes!! This is exactly how I feel about it! Loving every minute of it!

Was that the bug were you cant go to the cockpit room on the tempest, so you had to replay the mission on Voeld ?

@thehig1: No, but damn that soudns terrible.

It was...

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...on Eos, so the first of the chambers you were exploring. You had to repair a broken console, PeeBee is up top and is like "Hey, try the omnitool's laser" or something, and then the waypoint changes. It literally changes like three times. It's like OK go here, oh the doors locked. OK, go check out the console. Oh the consoles broken. Ummm OK new waypoint go use your sensor and look around. OK you found something, listen to PeeBee. OK, new waypoint on terminal. OK terminal fixed new waypoint.

It was a very, very, very heavily scripted three minutes and what happened is PeeBee showed up and said about a sentence and a half of her lines and would just disappear, and then the waypoint wouldn't load, which I guess was tied to the computer terminal being able to be interacted with.

Grrr. So, I tried reloading which was when you first entered the room, but I guess that was not far enough because the room is part of that entire strong of scripted events and a reload does not reset the whole thing (it doesn't reload all the actors, dialogue, parts, etc? I don't know...). Makes sense when you're just reloading from death; why reload the entire level when you just need to reset certain parts, right? But alas maybe that's what broke it.

So, I tried looking for a manual save but, OH OF COURSE! you can manual save during "story sequences" so I had to go back to an earlier autosave and play through a tedious battle of fighting machines, which sucks because at the time I did not have anything good against shields (my bad, not Bioware's).

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Thankfully, the reload fixed the problem, but my god it could have stopped my progress entirely right at the fulcrum point of the beginning of the game.

Again, not THAT big of a deal, but in this day and age I just expect a bit more from EA and Bioware.

Another criticism I am noticing is there is a lot of reused stuff from Dragon Age: Inquisition. Like, a lot. Which is fine, gotta be efficient and cost-effective in game development, but I just think they rewrapped a lot of the same ideas in different paper and regifted it to us. For example, the atmospheric reactors are basically just those astronomy puzzles from DA:I; you solve a Space-Sudoku puzzle, three lasers point you at a space-dungeon, you fight a bit, and you're rewarded with a planet.

The first time on Eos it felt huge, and Voeld felt cool. But I just did it on the ice planet (forgot name) it was tedious.

ME:A is a fun game, but you can really tell they rushed it. It's like you can see they really were taking their time with it, crafting it well, then somewhere at the 70% mark, someone was like "yeah, so you guys know this needs to be done in a month, right?" and everyone was like "SHIT!?!?!??! REALLY!? Hurry hurry hurry hurry...." and it was just a rush job on a lot of the stuff.

They should have waited another year to release it. Or dropped the multiplayer part and spent that time on the important part of the game, the singleplayer.

@mrbojangles25: that's exactly how it feels, they were taking their time and crafting amazing worlds and characters, and at some point es said right guys one month till release get it finished.

Still really enjoyable game, I'm really dragging my feet playing this one too, loving it.

I really don't get the fuss. Only thing you need to ask yourself about trying this game - "did I like Inquisition?" "would I like Inquisition in space?" If you answered yes to either one, go get it. Review over.

I think some people are being overly anal about this game. I mean, we're ok with Dark Souls characters that move like cro-magnon man and hackneyed stories like Nier (whose characters don't have real time facial animations AT ALL), but we have a problem with this?

this video was the final nail in the coffin for my chances of picking it up lol. for the people playing it - is the stuff in the video inaccurate or a misrepresentation of the game?

Yeah, but there's the whole "Mass Effect pedigree" to worry about, y'know? The first three games were, more or less, an overall experience that rivaled the best sci-fi movies, books, and television shows.

No, I'm not saying that Mass Effect has writing as good as Dune. Or a universe as whimsical as Star Wars. But the whole package--alien races, planets and galaxies, ships and technology, gameplay, narrative devices, etc--really gave a lot of those other things a run for their money imo.

I won't say ME:A squandered that pedigree, but it came dangerously close. Again, I am not a hater, I enjoy it, but I definitely see what people are poking at. It's like, ME1 is the great grandfather and he immigrated to this country and became a doctor...ME2 is the grandfather and was also a doctor and established a family practice, and it was successful...ME3 is the father and is also a doctor, but went corporate right before retirement and works for big pharma now.

ME:A went to med school and got really good grades, but dropped out after a few years to do volunteer work in Africa...ME:A isn't terrible, and isn't doing bad work, but ME1-3 can't help but roll over in their graves/roll their eyes. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT DOCTOR! SON I AM DISAPPOINT!

@Macutchi: I'm hesitant to say this, but yes...all those things I have encountered in the game.

I'm pretty forgiving, patient, and tolerant, so I can overlook a lot. Furthermore, if I am having fun 95% of the time (and I am), I think it's OK to overlook those things. In that context:

The guy that made that video was technically correct, but he was also really, for lack of a better term, douching it up.

-Half of his issues were with the already-addressed, buried-but-no-let's-dig-it-up-so-we-can-beat-it-some-more-dead-horse issue of facial animation. Let it go. Just...let it go.
-I don't think anyone is saying this is a great game, so let's stop comparing it to great games! Specifically, the original ME trilogy. It won't help you, it won't help me, and honestly I think it will deprive a lot of people of a decent sci-fi game they might enjoy simply because "it's not as good as ME 1,2, and/or 3."
-It has serious technical issues. I admit I find this unforgivable. Some I have encountered have actually stopped me from progressing (fortunately, reloading fixes it. I have also heard walking back to the beginning of the level works, too). With that said, the major ones are rare and the common ones are insignificant. Still...I expect more polish in the future. I admit, though: there were three instances in ME:A where I said to myself "This is God damn rediculous, I want my money back". Two progression bugs, and one bug where enemies were spawning both A.) infinitely, and B.) literally five seconds after I killed them. And you thought Far Cry 2 was bad...

Meh since most reviews is saying this is basically da:I in space I think I will pass on this one, all the boring fetch quest in that game got old really fast and it's the only bioware game I haven't finished to date...

Enjoying it so far indeed. Kinda have the feeling that such a bit world makes the lore stretch a bit thin (Specially for a game that is a new beginning and untied from the original saga) but the game improved a lot after a few hours of gameplay. Only 10 hour in so far, though, we'll see how it evolves.

I thought it was generally a good game although it is true that the facial animations need work.

@mrbojangles25: thanks for the honest answer, and i'm glad for you that you're enjoying it! i realise the video is meant for entertainment so it'll over sensationalise faults, which is why i asked if it's really representative of the game. because it doesn't just make it look bad, it makes it look horrendous lol.

and as far as the facial animations criticism goes, yep it's been pointed out by every man and his dog how bad they are, but then so it bloody should! it absolutely boggles the mind to think the game made it out the door looking like this and is, in a weird way, so grotesque that it's equal parts fascinating (like a car crash you can't look away!) and hilarious (it'll keep the video game meme industry thriving for years). but i can see why, for people like yourself who are trying to enjoy the game, it's tiring to keep reading about.

friends of mine who bit the bullet and picked it up have pretty much all had the same reaction to it - initially they liked it ("the reviews have got it wrong!"), several hours in they start to turn ("yeah it's problems are really starting to show") and after ten+ hours they all pretty much unanimously give it a thumbs down ("don't waste your money!"). i'm just frustrated it turned out the way it did. early video footage made it look like it was going to be epic

Yeah, it's a great game. The issues are being being overblown.

If you notice all this hater videos use the female character to emphasize on how bad the game looks, she does look horrible but the guy character is not near as bad. Annoying that he sounds like nathen drake though.

Its a fun game, I having a good time with it, but the story wont draw you in like the first 3, so it lacks the driving force.

I just pretend they're muppets, that's my solution; they're bodies and mouths move, and that's it. Maybe their eyes. But that's all.

As for the "big picture", I think I am going to enjoy the game, but in the end my overall impression is that this game is forgettable. Ryder is just not even 10% as charismatic, interesting, impressive, or well-written as Shepard was.

LIke I said in this thread or another, it would have been better if they retired the series after ME3 than "reboot/restart" it with ME:A.

But it's just a game *shrug* and I might as well have fun. There was a time where I would get my panties in a bunch over this shit, and sometimes I like to for fun, but whatever.

@mrbojangles25: mass effect andromeda aka muppets in space lol.

i played the first on pc and i'm sure i downloaded a hd texture / graphic overhaul mod so i'm sure people are already at work trying to fix the game's issues. we've all, at some point, enjoyed games that have been panned by others / critics, it's all about perspective. as long as you're having fun.

@Advid-Gamer: yeah i did notice that although it was kind of justified after the little glimpse of the character creation feature, i burst out laughing at that point. glad the default guy is more authentic

@Macutchi: I rented it. Even without the technical issue and the oddity that appear, I find there are problem with the core game play. I find most combat to be poorly stage. Often I have a problem with cover being too few or in place that does not offer a real place to recover at. Combat are either too easy or cheap challenge. I may play the first one and compare the two.

AS for the technical issue, that game has not crash on me.

The leveling system is decent. I would say it like ME1 but the smashed all of the classes together. I find the profile change to be more of a hassle so I recommend picking a few powers you like and getting passive more.

As for story, It not well written.

I concidered ME series to be good in making you invest in the story and characters, much in the same way star wars does. They are not the deepest of characters and the story is not some sort of literature masterpiece, but its very effective and very well executed. The actors and writers did a good job.

Obviously, I care immensely about those apects, in mass effect specifically*, to the point where I find it neccessary for the plot and character to compliment the gameplay. Its important to me that these aspects can make me invest in them AGAIN, because thats a major reason why I was drawn to mass effect and played it.

I havent played andromeda yet, but by your saying, everyone who calls it out on boring plot and forgettable characters is wrong. Can you guarantee that? I think you cant. I am planning on buying andromeda one day, but only on a sale.

*I dont expect every game to make me invest in its characters and story. This is a trait I expect from specific games that do rely on that.

@PETERAKO: I'm about 20+ hours in and STILL loving every minute of it.

And How can you say I can't "guarantee that the critics are wrong" when you haven't even played it yourself? LOl **** outta here!

Catch me on battle app if you wanna take this further. ???

@terminator2017: 100%agree with you mass effect Andromeda died by the hand of bad reviews.game was very good. Good open world good story great shooter best in the series great exploration great graphics combat is the best among in the series.

Funny thing is people are comparing the graphics with u4and bf and .... While they dont even know they cannot compare a liner game Like uncharted or simple shooter with a massive game like ANdromeda .

Visually it is great. Funy no one talks how boring assassins creed games are or how bugy they are. Or how repettive they have become but ,a great game in the series ???sometimes i think people really dont know what they want ! They just talk . A crazy person for example compared andromeda animations with u4 how funny is that ???they think they are gamer they have the delusion of being a gamer but they are not . A liner game like u4 with controlled narrative is compared with masssive stroy driven rpg with millions of lines of talking and random npc talking to each other.

Mass effect andromeda had some bugs so what ?all game havebugs ??they all have fixed.

Andromeda is very good game forthose who have the delusion of gaming good means good not bad.

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Stop bumping old threads especially to a game that is known to be under the expectations of whatever fans this developer had remaining.

The game was so poorly received that key staff have stated if Anthem doesn't turn out successful, Bioware is gone! That should tell you the opinions in which everyone outside of Buyer-Remorse-Gamers view Mass effect: Andromeda.

It's cool some people like mass effect andromenda & everything else. I thought the game was mediocre and that's all I'm going to say about it.

Playing the game for the first time right now and I think it's great. I can't really fault the game in any one area. It has so much to do with tons of dialogue and info on every aspect of the worlds you go to. Even the research and development is for me involved. The Codex is awesome. Thank goodness the play balance is good because I hate games that put you on expert level when you choose normal difficulty. The only thing that isn't right for me is that you cannot save anytime and do not save while in the Nomad! I am a casual gamer that plays maybe a couple games a year. For me the game is as I said: Great! But if I were a professional or a game nut maybe I would think differently. All I know is that the effort to put something like this together took a seriously huge commitment.

@RSM-HQ: Sorry, but I don't agree with you. You might be right about the facts you give, but I love this game.