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#1 the_hattrick
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personally M.G.S is one of my favorite series it featured lots of stealth (of course) a fair amount of weapons a long but great story line and and also had environments were you could play with your surroundings. To be honest i think it has been taken for granted.
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#2 cristaph
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iv'e never owned any of he games but played them alot round a mates house and they good at some points however at most points mediocre so to answer your question= over rated
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#3 Silent-Hal
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Neither. I think its level of appreciation is just right. There are some people that don't know about it or care for it, buts its got a pretty large, dedicated fanbase. Having MGS4 hyped to GTAIV levels would just make the game seem more pretentious when the hype eventually dies down.
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#4 the_hattrick
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Neither. I think its level of appreciation is just right. There are some people that don't know about it or care for it, buts its got a pretty large, dedicated fanbase. Having MGS4 hyped to GTAIV levels would just make the game seem more pretentious when the hype eventually dies down.Silent-Hal

That is most likely the best comment i have ever recived or heard in a while,mabey your right it has a good balance were it stands.

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#6 jamestabang
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I have been disliking MGS before for being overrated.

But when I played MGS3, I knew then why it is a popular and highly rated game. Simply one of the best games ever made.

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#7 Contra_Dk
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MGS is and has always been under rated... I don't blame people for not liking the games, but don't go say it's **** or something. That's just blasphemy.
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#8 BoxTrick
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MGS series is one of my favorite.
I definitly can see where people would dislike the games, some people hate stealth games, some hate long cutscenes, and some hate confusing stories and so on.

Though I agree with most posters, its not over rated or under-rated.

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#9 Iszk
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Neither. I think its level of appreciation is just right.Silent-Hal

Exactly what I was going to say. It seems to get the praise it deserves, imo.

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#10 Ziggies
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i'm glad it's not over-rated personally. Games tend to Hype up alot, especially sequels. I was a little dissapointed in Mass Effect's length, only 15-20 hours per playthorugh including sidequests when I was promised at minimum 40 just for Main quests. MGS isn't the world's most accessible game, I was playing the beta of MGO earlier today and thought: "Wow, I like this Online better than CoD4, but still CoD4 is more acessible to casual gamers".
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#11 foxhound_fox
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No game can be literally "overrated" or "underrated" since anyone who claims as such is only stating their own opinion. I feel Metal Gear Solid is a little under-appreciated by many people because they expect a "stealth game" when it is designed as a "tactical espionage action game" that uses cinematic styIe to tell its story... and does it extremely well.
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#12 Hulabaloza
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This is by far the most highly overrated game there is.

Bad story, shallow gameplay and overrated graphically. Just play the MGO beta to see. It's a slow, clunky shooter that's nearly impossible to aim.

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#13 foxhound_fox
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This is by far the most highly overrated game there is.

Bad story, shallow gameplay and overrated graphically. Just play the MGO beta to see. It's a slow, clunky shooter that's nearly impossible to aim.

Hulabaloza

You first claim an objective point, it being "overrated," then go on to tell us subjectively why you think it is overrated. Just because you dislike a game doesn't make it "bad."
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#14 Hulabaloza
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[QUOTE="Hulabaloza"]This is by far the most highly overrated game there is.

Bad story, shallow gameplay and overrated graphically. Just play the MGO beta to see. It's a slow, clunky shooter that's nearly impossible to aim.

foxhound_fox


You first claim an objective point, it being "overrated," then go on to tell us subjectively why you think it is overrated. Just because you dislike a game doesn't make it "bad."

The story is bad....just real bad, and that's a fact. You can like it, but it doesn't change this fact.

The game mechanics haven't really evolved since the PS1 days. In MGS you hide in closets, while games like Splinter Cell and Thief have been using light & sound for years. MGS 3's additions....camo, hunting, etc....were weak. You have every right to like it, but just judging the mechanics....this game has been surpassed and outdated since MGS2.

You can like the game. A lot of people like it. I just think the reason all these people like it is cause they are impressed with the production values (the money that went into the game) and not the end result.

Combine all the attention it gets with the end quality.....that's why it's overrated.

Or, imagine if the MGO beta was a demo version of a no name game......no one would give it a second chance. It's that bad. It's a slow, clunky shooter....where you can't aim at anything.

Halo is overrated, but you can bet that more people will be playing Halo 2 online in a couple years than MGO online.

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#15 zeppelin_64
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Definitely not under rated, that's for sure.
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#16 Tingle-Tuner
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This is by far the most highly overrated game there is.

Bad story, shallow gameplay and overrated graphically. Just play the MGO beta to see. It's a slow, clunky shooter that's nearly impossible to aim.

Hulabaloza

I completely agree.

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#17 Iszk
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The story is bad....just real bad, and that's a fact. You can like it, but it doesn't change this fact.Hulabaloza

It's really hard to have a conversation with someone who gets opinions and facts confused with each other. It's not a "fact" that the story is bad, it's only a fact that it doesn't appeal to you.

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#18 GSU28
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I tried MGS2 and I laughed at how awful it was. Maybe it is just not my cup of tea. Maybe it is overrated. :P
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#19 Iszk
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I tried MGS2 and I laughed at how awful it was. Maybe it is just not my cup of tea. Maybe it is overrated. :PGSU28

Silly? No my friend. The dangers of slippery pigeon poop is serious business, and only Hideo Kojima has had the courage to tackle this very real and deadly issue.

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#20 the_hattrick
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I am glad to see so many people taking interest in this topic and nice to see some more die hard MGS fans like myself and i did enjoy reading most of the posts, they offered a very deep take on people's opinions on the whole MGS series. personally my two favorite ones are snake eater and the twin snakes
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#21 GSU28
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I also agree that you can't exactly say a story is bad with such finality. That is not a fact. Most people I know hated the story in Gears of War, but I actually enjoyed it very much. It fit the environment and the characters very well. Also, MGS is not by any means the most overrated franchise. For that "honor" I may have to give the crown to Final Fantasy. Or perhaps Halo. Yes, definitely Halo. Combat Evolved was fantastic, after that I thought it went down hill.
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#22 BoxTrick
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I've grown sick of peoples opnions on games. They are always like "this game is bad becasue its story sucks, its gameplay sucks etc". You respond well I really enjoy the game and that person responds again with "DOESNT CHANGE THE FACT THAT IT SUCKS". Constant stating of your opinion as it facts makes my head want to explode.

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#23 Zombiegal
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Heya,

I like the metal gear series i just like all the features like the hiding and camoflauge and i think the story was confusing and took me about 3 explination to understand because of the way each game was brought out.

I personally like the game and enjoy playing it. As for MGO beta i think it's awesome ^^. I think it's easy aiming and nice controls. Maybe slow at the start because you have to level up your speed but i dont care :P.

The finding snake mission is most fun and hilarious that you can use most of the features from the metal gear game in online situations.

(May be off the point to the topic)

But i like MGS. 3 was my favourite and i'm looking forward to MGS4!! Looks sexy, the features are sexy, snakes voice is sexy and the overall gameplay is sexy

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#24 EnigManic
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I used to like the Metal Gear series, but I just don't think it has embraced enough innovation. Any game can churn out a sequel with new characters, weapons and levels. For a franchise to stand the test of time, it needs to evolve.
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#25 insanewolfninja
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I feel metal gear doesent get enough attention... but as for as ratings go its pretty dead on.... to say that the story is awful is like saying final fantasy isint the final fantasy.
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#26 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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It depends on which one you are referring to. I loved MGS 1 and MGS 3.
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#27 phatrawk
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I made a post a while ago about my experience with MGS: Twin Snakes:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26216137

In summary, it wasn't a very good one...

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Metal Gear Solid was perhaps the second best selling game in the history of videogames but before that it wasn't given great scores which means it was underrated. Metal Gear Solid 2 had the right ratings. Metal Gear solid 3 was underrated too because it was one of the best looking games on the playstation 2 along with Resident Evil 4 and it pushed the console to its limits yet it didn't get the right score. The story of metal gear series is very politically charged and anyone who bashes it has simply failed to grasp the point of it.
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#29 TallicaFan2005
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Very underrated. Halo gets so much more attention while the single player in MGS has always been a billion times better, and a billion times better written.
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Metal Gear Solid was perhaps the second best selling game in the history of videogames but before that it wasn't given great scores which means it was underrated. Metal Gear Solid 2 had the right ratings. Metal Gear solid 3 was underrated too because it was one of the best looking games on the playstation 2 along with Resident Evil 4 and it pushed the console to its limits yet it didn't get the right score. The story of metal gear series is very politically charged and anyone who bashes it has simply failed to grasp the point of it. gamingqueen

I do agree number three:snake eater had allot of politics in it and a very long twisting storyline but despite all the politics of war they still kept many busy with it's slit throat game play..hehe my favorite way to take out some pesky guards..but yes you relay cant trash a storyline that is all about "war politics" i mean its tricky to do and i find most people who hate the storyline,hate it because it takes up precious killing spree time. :roll:

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#31 gamingqueen
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[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]Metal Gear Solid was perhaps the second best selling game in the history of videogames but before that it wasn't given great scores which means it was underrated. Metal Gear Solid 2 had the right ratings. Metal Gear solid 3 was underrated too because it was one of the best looking games on the playstation 2 along with Resident Evil 4 and it pushed the console to its limits yet it didn't get the right score. The story of metal gear series is very politically charged and anyone who bashes it has simply failed to grasp the point of it. the_hattrick

I do agree number three:snake eater had allot of politics in it and a very long twisting storyline but despite all the politics of war they still kept many busy with it's slit throat game play..hehe my favorite way to take out some pesky guards..but yes you relay cant trash a storyline that is all about "war politics" i mean its tricky to do and i find most people who hate the storyline,hate it because it takes up precious killing spree time. :roll:

Not that my English is superb either but I didn't fully understand what you said. Perhaps the game-play wasn't revolutionary but there were other ways to take out guards in mgs3 including CQC. CQC didn't only include slitting throats as you could knock off the guards, twist their ribs and chauk them. Along with CQC, you had a good variety of guns and items to use to kill guards as well as other tricks to distract them.

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I think they are great but probably overrated somewhat. At least the previous games were. The controls are and have always been cumbersome, the games are never that long and are only challenging on the hardest difficulty and for the most part have been the same game in a different location with updated graphics.
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I think they are great but probably overrated somewhat. At least the previous games were. The controls are and have always been cumbersome, the games are never that long and are only challenging on the hardest difficulty and for the most part have been the same game in a different location with updated graphics. Alter_Echo

Not true.

MGS had many additions over MG2 and MG2 had many additions over MG and so on. MG2 included A.I., dialougs, radar, life bar, more weapons and more moves. MGS was 3D, cut-scenes, voice acting, stealth tricks like using the box, flattering against a wall, crawling, CQB, thermal goggles, stealth camoflauge, new and improved radar and more weapons. MGS2 had first person shooting and katana fight. MGS3 had camo system, stamina system, CQC, chase sequence and more weapons.

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The story of metal gear series is very politically charged and anyone who bashes it has simply failed to grasp the point of it. gamingqueen

exactly.

i'm tired of dumbs... if you are a kid that cant comprehend what is told, just play mindless shooters for your taste. also MGS is not a shooter game, thats additional feature.

i also think its not overrated nor underrated. its more than satisfying for fans and thats more than enough

Very underrated. Halo gets so much more attention while the single player in MGS has always been a billion times better, and a billion times better written.TallicaFan2005

halo was the only fps on xbox, so its natural. leave the kids alone, they didnt see any real game. halo shlouldnt be compared to MGS, it should be compared to FPS games and real FPS games are on PC.

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#35 Iszk
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My copy of Resistance was a fake? Good thing I got rid of it, would hate to play a fake game.
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#36 BoG_
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Put simply, MGS is my favorite franchise ever, enough to make me buy a PS3. The original is my favorite game of all time, and the sequels are defenitely in my top 5. Underrated.
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Metal Gear Solid was perhaps the second best selling game in the history of videogames but before that it wasn't given great scores which means it was underrated. Metal Gear Solid 2 had the right ratings. Metal Gear solid 3 was underrated too because it was one of the best looking games on the playstation 2 along with Resident Evil 4 and it pushed the console to its limits yet it didn't get the right score. The story of metal gear series is very politically charged and anyone who bashes it has simply failed to grasp the point of it. gamingqueen

MGS2 was the black sheep of the Solid storyline, yet it was scored the highest by critics. Imaginary fingernails still run down a chalkboard in my head when I see a review for Sons that is higher than Snake Eater. Compared to Snake Eater, Sons was a huge, huge letdown. Not for the new mechanics it introduced, but for the janky storyline. Snake Eater had the mechanics from Sons, mated with the best story in the series. It was truly Kojima's swan song, and I'm more than a little apprehensive that he won't be able to match it with MGS4.

And while I agree with you on Snake Eater, I couldn't disagree more about it being merited by graphics. Snake Eater was the best game in the series for a multitude of reasons above and beyond its visuals (which were gorgeous). I've played a lot of gorgeous games that were snooze-fests.

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MG2 included A.I., dialougs, radar, life bar, more weapons and more moves. MGS was 3D, cut-scenes, voice acting, stealth tricks like using the box, flattering against a wall, crawling, CQB, thermal goggles, stealth camoflauge, new and improved radar and more weapons.

gamingqueen

MG2 actually had a lot of those. You could use a box and crawl, and had thermal goggles. MGS took a LOT of game mechanics and items from MG2 .

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#39 5UPERMARIO
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in my opinion, most over-rated pretentious game ever

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#40 patriots2871
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i think there over rated
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#41 EnigManic
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Which was the one where you fight PyschoMantis and he affects your controller?

That was the last one I played. I thought it was pretty good as far as graphics and gameplay. But I haven't been able to find myself drawn to future MGS titles. I suppose there's just something lacking. Perhaps originality or innovation, I'm not sure.

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#42 MetalGear_Ninty
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MGS2 was the black sheep of the Solid storyline, yet it was scored the highest by critics. Imaginary fingernails still run down a chalkboard in my head when I see a review for Sons that is higher than Snake Eater. Compared to Snake Eater, Sons was a huge, huge letdown. Not for the new mechanics it introduced, but for the janky storyline. Snake Eater had the mechanics from Sons, mated with the best story in the series. It was truly Kojima's swan song, and I'm more than a little apprehensive that he won't be able to match it with MGS4.

And while I agree with you on Snake Eater, I couldn't disagree more about it being merited by graphics. Snake Eater was the best game in the series for a multitude of reasons above and beyond its visuals (which were gorgeous). I've played a lot of gorgeous games that were snooze-fests.

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Quite the contrary, I felt that the storyline of MGS3 didn't even match the standards set out by MGS2.

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#43 Shame-usBlackley
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Quite the contrary, I felt that the storyline of MGS3 didn't even match the standards set out by MGS2.

MetalGear_Ninty

I won't get started on it, because I could go on for about 362 pages on why MGS2's story was a mixture of the final Matrix flick and a bad Hendrix trip. So instead I'll just say: Yeah, NO.

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#44 MetalGear_Ninty
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[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

Quite the contrary, I felt that the storyline of MGS3 didn't even match the standards set out by MGS2.

Shame-usBlackley

I won't get started on it, because I could go on for about 362 pages on why MGS2's story was a mixture of the final Matrix flick and a bad Hendrix trip. So instead I'll just say: Yeah, NO.

Ditto.

But about how the MGS2 storyline was great.

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#45 gamingqueen
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[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"]

Quite the contrary, I felt that the storyline of MGS3 didn't even match the standards set out by MGS2.

Shame-usBlackley

I won't get started on it, because I could go on for about 362 pages on why MGS2's story was a mixture of the final Matrix flick and a bad Hendrix trip. So instead I'll just say: Yeah, NO.

No do elaborate please... I'll be more than pleased to explain about every silly bit in mgs2 including the hydrogenated water Vamp walked on.

In short, the most important stories in the series are, MG2, MGS and MGS2.

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#46 rexCo
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I was EXTREMELY disappointed in MGS2's story and overall presentation. I just did not enjoy the plotline and felt that it got a little convoluted. Even though it was more consisten than 3's overall, it just lacked character and just didn't entertain me that much.

Snake Eater, I felt, destroyed 2 in every way, but that is just me. The plot compelled me like few other narratives in video games have, and there was just so much more character (come on, Fortune was lame, Ocelot was cooler in 1 and 3, Raiden was a disappointment, Fatman was annoying, Rose cried more than Raiden did, and Snake didn't have nearly enough screen time). Even Vamp just felt wierd even if he was pretty cool. Solidus.. well, he was alright, but not as good as Volgin or Liquid (who, by the way, should've really just been left dead and not come back in such a stupid, stupid way).

But again, 2 just disappointed me in so many ways. What I did like was the theme of everything not being what it seems to be; that was actually quite effective, and I was ultimately satisfied in the end. It just didn't compare to 3, and I also felt 1 was better (I played TTS for the record).
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MGS 3 and MGS 2 should swap scores. MGS 3 was just an overall better game. Better gameplay and much, much better story IMO.
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I thought MGS2 was a great game althought not as good as the first one or the third

but Id have to say undderated in a way I mean really you have halo which has a decent multyplayer but crap single player and it gets praised?

MGS has a freat single player and the mulyplayer is innovative in a few ways and is also tons of fun

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I thought MGS2 was a great game althought not as good as the first one or the third

but Id have to say undderated in a way I mean really you have halo which has a decent multyplayer but crap single player and it gets praised?

MGS has a freat single player and the mulyplayer is innovative in a few ways and is also tons of fun

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its all about advertisement skills. m$ knows how to do it. also halo is the only game those sad box owners had. while ps owners had so many games so they are divided lol.