MGS4 June 12th (MGS4 PS3 Bundle, GOW PSP Bundle Too!)

[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!

"As has been announced previously, MGS4 will include a Metal Gear Online "Starter Pack." If you can't wait to try out MGS4, the good news is you don't have to much longer. Those who pre-order the game will be guaranteed access to a multiplayer beta test for Metal Gear Online scheduled for late April."

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*runs to pre-order now*

dvader654

Nice new thread title, you have the thread of the week, no of the month, maybe the year! :P

$500 confirmed

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/02/26/destination-playstation-news-mgs-ps3-bundle-kratos-psp-and-dualshock3-release-date-by/

Rag, we need a new title.

dvader654

Wow. Sony ain't messin' around.

This is a really, really good move. I still think bundling it with a $399 40 gig would be smarter, but hey, I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.

My MGS4 thread of sexiness will beat that. :P

What an awesome year, 2008 >>>>>>>>>> 2007

dvader654

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

$500 confirmed

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/02/26/destination-playstation-news-mgs-ps3-bundle-kratos-psp-and-dualshock3-release-date-by/

Rag, we need a new title.

Shame-usBlackley

Wow. Sony ain't messin' around.

This is a really, really good move. I still think bundling it with a $399 40 gig would be smarter, but hey, I'm not gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.

Yeah I probably would have liked that bundle better myself as well since cheaper is always better and I could probably have done quite nicely with the 40 GB HDD for awhile at least.

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

My MGS4 thread of sexiness will beat that. :P

What an awesome year, 2008 >>>>>>>>>> 2007

rragnaar

Yeah, from a variety standpoint I agree though FPS wise goes to 2007. We got DMC4, Lost Odyssey, Vegas 2, Condemned 2, GT5 prologue, Resistance 2, MGS4, GTA IV, NG2, Fable 2, SSBB, Mario Kart, Spore, Too Human, SC Conviction, Gears of War 2 and ... Haze! j/k :P

I'm sure there will be more.

In June everyone gets their $600 tax break refund, perfect timing Sony.

dvader654

Yeah, from a variety standpoint I agree though FPS wise goes to 2007. We got DMC4, Lost Odyssey, Vegas 2, Condemned 2, GT5 prologue, Resistance 2, MGS4, GTA IV, NG2, Fable 2, SSBB, Mario Kart, Spore, Too Human, SC Conviction, Gears of War 2 and ... Haze! j/k :P

I'm sure there will be more.

D3s7rUc71oN

It's almost scary how awesome these two years are going to be for gaming. Then going into 2009 we'll probably have Resident Evil 5 and Final Fantasy XIII at least plus who knows what else.

In June everyone gets their $600 tax break refund, perfect timing Sony.

dvader654

meh, I can get 10x more by selling my kidney :shock: :lol:

Sony how about a PS2 price drop? They think the machine is like wine, the price should go down actually they should stop selling antiques :P

[QUOTE="dvader654"]

In June everyone gets their $600 tax break refund, perfect timing Sony.

D3s7rUc71oN

meh, I can get 10x more by selling my kidney :shock: :lol:

Sony how about a PS2 price drop? They think the machine is like wine, the price should go down actually they should stop selling antiques :P

I keep hearing rumors that they are going to drop it to $99. If they can get the PS3 down to $299 I think they should discontinue the thing altogether. I don't expect MS to still manufacture Xboxes or Nintendo to keep selling Gamecubes... I think it is probably ok to discontinue the PS2 in its 8th year. :P

[QUOTE="D3s7rUc71oN"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

In June everyone gets their $600 tax break refund, perfect timing Sony.

rragnaar

meh, I can get 10x more by selling my kidney :shock: :lol:

Sony how about a PS2 price drop? They think the machine is like wine, the price should go down actually they should stop selling antiques :P

I keep hearing rumors that they are going to drop it to $99. If they can get the PS3 down to $299 I think they should discontinue the thing altogether. I don't expect MS to still manufacture Xboxes or Nintendo to keep selling Gamecubes... I think it is probably ok to discontinue the PS2 in its 8th year. :P

A GoW Chain of Olympus PS2 bundle will be awesome lol, I hope they port the game to the PS2 though.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

In June everyone gets their $600 tax break refund, perfect timing Sony.

dvader654

I dont think Sony can do much with the GTA4 launch. MS seems to have exclusive ads for GTA. We will probably see an ad campaign like no other that features ONLY the 360 version of the game. The game will sell fine on the PS3 but thats cause its GTA.

MS definitely owns the launch on a promotional level... but I still think a $350 PS3 could keep things at least a little even.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"][QUOTE="dvader654"]

In June everyone gets their $600 tax break refund, perfect timing Sony.

dvader654

I dont think Sony can do much with the GTA4 launch. MS seems to have exclusive ads for GTA. We will probably see an ad campaign like no other that features ONLY the 360 version of the game. The game will sell fine on the PS3 but thats cause its GTA.

I saw the same thing with DMC4, then days later they showed both the PS3 and 360 boxart ad on FX. I wonder how much MS paid for those ads...

If this hardware bundle includes backwards compatability, I'm buying it in a heartbeat.MarcusAntonius

A few things:

• I TOLD you that Metal Gear Solid 4 was coming out before summer. I win! 8)
• Nice bundle, but I already have a PS3.
• Dual Skock 3, $55?! Peripherals this gen have become the biggest ripoff in gaming, beyond the basic hardware or software. $55 for this, $60 for a full Wii controller, and $180 for a decent HDD for the 360.
• Reeces Peanut Butter Cups are still the best.

• Reeces Peanut Butter Cups are still the best.

EdgecrusherAza

You lose. Good day sir!

A few things:

• I TOLD you that Metal Gear Solid 4 was coming out before summer. I win! 8)
• Nice bundle, but I already have a PS3.
• Dual Skock 3, $55?! Peripherals this gen have become the biggest ripoff in gaming, beyond the basic hardware or software. $55 for this, $60 for a full Wii controller, and $180 for a decent HDD for the 360.
• Reeces Peanut Butter Cups are still the best.

EdgecrusherAza

ARen't wiimotes 70 bucks, see thats the thing consoles prices themselves are really much more expensive than they have been in the past, but everything else seems to have gone up...But I guess when you factor in inflation, the U.S dollar is worth nothing nowadays, I guess everything is relatively the same.

[QUOTE="EdgecrusherAza"]

A few things:

• I TOLD you that Metal Gear Solid 4 was coming out before summer. I win! 8)
• Nice bundle, but I already have a PS3.
• Dual Skock 3, $55?! Peripherals this gen have become the biggest ripoff in gaming, beyond the basic hardware or software. $55 for this, $60 for a full Wii controller, and $180 for a decent HDD for the 360.
• Reeces Peanut Butter Cups are still the best.

HiResDes

ARen't wiimotes 70 bucks, see thats the thing consoles prices themselves are really much more expensive than they have been in the past, but everything else seems to have gone up...But I guess when you factor in inflation, the U.S dollar is worth nothing nowadays, I guess everything is relatively the same.

I blame the wireless technology in peripherals and "HD era" :P

[QUOTE="EdgecrusherAza"]

A few things:

• I TOLD you that Metal Gear Solid 4 was coming out before summer. I win! 8)
• Nice bundle, but I already have a PS3.
• Dual Skock 3, $55?! Peripherals this gen have become the biggest ripoff in gaming, beyond the basic hardware or software. $55 for this, $60 for a full Wii controller, and $180 for a decent HDD for the 360.
• Reeces Peanut Butter Cups are still the best.

HiResDes

ARen't wiimotes 70 bucks, see thats the thing consoles prices themselves are really much more expensive than they have been in the past, but everything else seems to have gone up...But I guess when you factor in inflation, the U.S dollar is worth nothing nowadays, I guess everything is relatively the same.

From what I remember, they're $60. I need my paycheck to be inflated a bit, then everything will be the same. :P

June for Japan or a world wide launch? gamingqueen

[QUOTE="gamingqueen"]June for Japan or a world wide launch? rragnaar

PHEWWWWW! perfect timing! Right after finals! What a way to welcome summer vacation!

If I buy this bundle, it would mark the second time that I've ever purchased a console with one game in mind. Oh yeah, I guess FF XIII would be OK too.:P

GTA IV comes out on my last day of class, but I do have finals the next week.HiResDes

Yeah, me too. Let's hope my GPA can take the hit, because it will be very hard to study when Grand Theft Auto 4 is just a few feet away...

I dont get it.

Why bundle the game that will sell consoles anyway? I dont know what kind of arrangement they have with Konami, but this just doesnt make sense to me. However, i did read through the thread and I guess it has got alot of people to consider buying a PS3. But is it still a profitable solution for Konami's $50 mil investment?

- Sony is already making a profit on both SKUs, and I expect them to slash the prices by atleast $50 by the time GTA4 arrives. So maybe they will have a stand alone version with the DS3 for $450 and another MGS4 bundle for $499 which means savings of $10 bucks for new buyers, but that still doesnt make sense. Price conscious consumers would rather buy the $399 PS3 and the game seperately, will cost them less. Besides, I was hoping that the 80GB would get a $100 price cut soon.

- Konami said it needed to sell a million copies before it could make a profit on MGS4. It doesnt make sense for them to bundle this game and lose some of the profit. I understand Sony gets some royalty from each copy of a PS3 game sold, but how would they distribute it now? Would they give $50 to Konami from each of the $499 80 GB PS3 sold? I doubt it.

- ONe thing this could do to MGS4, is make it a HALO like phenomenon (atleast sales wise) for the PS3. MGS games while big hits, dont really sell to the tune of 8-10 million copies. Bundling MGS4 will definitely add millions to the number units sold. Just look at MotorStorm's sales. It's going to be the first PS3 game to cross the 3 million mark, and it had mediorcre sales before it was bundled.

I really hope someone here can help me understand, maybe i am missing something obvious but bundling a third party exclusive, that you paid millions for, doesn't really make sense to me.

P.S I just hope we had more data on how these exclusives get bought and for how much. I really wonder how M$ paid to get all those exclusive extra missions and stuff.

Wow, what a day for MGS news. Hearing about the MGS4 bundle does sound neat. Although I already have an XBox 360 and a Nintendo Wii, this is gonna tempt me to buy a PS3. The system has some games that interest me like MGS4, FF 13, KZ2, Resistance 1 and 2, and a few others. However, I am afraid that if I do get a PS3, I will have all three systems, meaning that I will have too many games to go through, and I won't have much time to go through any of them. Anyone else feel the same with all three systems?

I also heard that the Backwards Compatibility for the 80 GB model has some issues, but I can't recall from where at the moment. To anyone that owns the 80 GB model, have they ever encounter BC problems?

I dont get it.

Why bundle the game that will sell consoles anyway? I dont know what kind of arrangement they have with Konami, but this just doesnt make sense to me. However, i did read through the thread and I guess it has got alot of people to consider buying a PS3. But is it still a profitable solution for Konami's $50 mil investment?

- Sony is already making a profit on both SKUs, and I expect them to slash the prices by atleast $50 by the time GTA4 arrives. So maybe they will have a stand alone version with the DS3 for $450 and another MGS4 bundle for $499 which means savings of $10 bucks for new buyers, but that still doesnt make sense. Price conscious consumers would rather buy the $399 PS3 and the game seperately, will cost them less. Besides, I was hoping that the 80GB would get a $100 price cut soon.

- Konami said it needed to sell a million copies before it could make a profit on MGS4. It doesnt make sense for them to bundle this game and lose some of the profit. I understand Sony gets some royalty from each copy of a PS3 game sold, but how would they distribute it now? Would they give $50 to Konami from each of the $499 80 GB PS3 sold? I doubt it.

- ONe thing this could do to MGS4, is make it a HALO like phenomenon (atleast sales wise) for the PS3. MGS games while big hits, dont really sell to the tune of 8-10 million copies. Bundling MGS4 will definitely add millions to the number units sold. Just look at MotorStorm's sales. It's going to be the first PS3 game to cross the 3 million mark, and it had mediorcre sales before it was bundled.

I really hope someone here can help me understand, maybe i am missing something obvious but bundling a third party exclusive, that you paid millions for, doesn't really make sense to me.

P.S I just hope we had more data on how these exclusives get bought and for how much. I really wonder how M$ paid to get all those exclusive extra missions and stuff.

S0lidSnake

Konami doesn't lose profit, Sony does, it's not about Sony trying to maximize royalties, but Sony trying to maximize MGS4 sales to keep Konami happy while using it to really drive PS3 sales.

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]

I dont get it.

Why bundle the game that will sell consoles anyway? I dont know what kind of arrangement they have with Konami, but this just doesnt make sense to me. However, i did read through the thread and I guess it has got alot of people to consider buying a PS3. But is it still a profitable solution for Konami's $50 mil investment?

- Sony is already making a profit on both SKUs, and I expect them to slash the prices by atleast $50 by the time GTA4 arrives. So maybe they will have a stand alone version with the DS3 for $450 and another MGS4 bundle for $499 which means savings of $10 bucks for new buyers, but that still doesnt make sense. Price conscious consumers would rather buy the $399 PS3 and the game seperately, will cost them less. Besides, I was hoping that the 80GB would get a $100 price cut soon.

- Konami said it needed to sell a million copies before it could make a profit on MGS4. It doesnt make sense for them to bundle this game and lose some of the profit. I understand Sony gets some royalty from each copy of a PS3 game sold, but how would they distribute it now? Would they give $50 to Konami from each of the $499 80 GB PS3 sold? I doubt it.

- ONe thing this could do to MGS4, is make it a HALO like phenomenon (atleast sales wise) for the PS3. MGS games while big hits, dont really sell to the tune of 8-10 million copies. Bundling MGS4 will definitely add millions to the number units sold. Just look at MotorStorm's sales. It's going to be the first PS3 game to cross the 3 million mark, and it had mediorcre sales before it was bundled.

I really hope someone here can help me understand, maybe i am missing something obvious but bundling a third party exclusive, that you paid millions for, doesn't really make sense to me.

P.S I just hope we had more data on how these exclusives get bought and for how much. I really wonder how M$ paid to get all those exclusive extra missions and stuff.

EvilTaru

Konami doesn't lose profit, Sony does, it's not about Sony trying to maximize royalties, but Sony trying to maximize MGS4 sales to keep Konami happy while using it to really drive PS3 sales.

Yep, that's what the game business is about! You have to lose money to make money, and in Sony's case, they'll make royalties both from games and movies!

Hot!!!

^^ I want to buy that even though I have a PS3!dvader654

I'm debating on it. I don't know why, but for some reason I feel like a need a second 360 and PS3 for when friends come over... that, and let's face it, there is nothing better than unboxing a new console. Especially if it contains Metal Gear.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]

[QUOTE="dvader654"]^^ I want to buy that even though I have a PS3!dvader654

I'm debating on it. I don't know why, but for some reason I feel like a need a second 360 and PS3 for when friends come over... that, and let's face it, there is nothing better than unboxing a new console. Especially if it contains Metal Gear.

I wasn't being that serious, woah your hardcore. :P

I mostly just want to widen the gap between the haves and the have nots. :P Nah... I just have a bedroom and a living room and I'll be damned if I'm not going to play games and watch movies in both rooms. That, and splitscreen is for chumps. :P

If only this SKU had hardware BC it would be PERFECT! I want it so badly now, but I probably won't be able to afford it. Heck, I still have a bunch of games I want now that I can't afford.Angry_Beaver

It does have BC actually... I'm honestly a little bummed that it is going to be $500 though. It is a good deal for what it is, but I wanted Sony to be more agressive with it.

If anything, Sony is getting really aggressive and showing that they want to win, showing that they have experience in how to win, and showing that they'll take steps to win. Just tons of PlayStation news today, all of it good and within a few months. Meanwhile, MS just sits back as people ask how much longer until their 360 is sent back and how much longer until a price drop. It's MS's turn now for a counter, which will probably be in late April.

Also, each game sale doesn't net the publisher $60. It could be anything, but it's not like Sony has to "pay" the full retail for each game put in the bundle, it's going to be a fraction of that. I'm sure that Konami will still gain the same amount of revenue per game, and when you factor in it'll come with every BC PS3, the game will move millions in short time like MotorStorm did. In a way, this particular bundle may very well have locked up exclusivity.

Hot!!!

rragnaar

That settles it. I'm taking the box when my brother buys this in June. :lol: :|

BTW, do you guys think this news could potentially stall PS3 sales until this hits? Not only does it have BC and MGS4, but it has the real PS3 pad that everyone wants.

If too many people hear about this, the next few months could be real slow for Sony after that good January.