Microsofts Metal Gear for the Xbox 360

http://www.gameguru.in/features/2007/29/rumor-101-microsofts-metal-gear-for-the-xbox-360/

There are still a few days before the New Year officially
dawns upon us. But the industry is in no mood to slow down. If you guys
thought that 2007 was one of the biggest years, it would be a mere
understatement, for 2008 shall bring us to our knees for it is the
return of the prodigal son on his favorite console and this epic drama
under the guise of an espionage game gets better and better each time
we witness it in motion. (Drum Roll) and Snake slithers onto our
television screens.

It seems absolutely impossible to notice that Microsoft is unfazed
by Metal Gear Solid 4, the titan of all games released during the year
on the PS3. Splinter Cell: Conviction might not be powerful enough to
scratch our beloved Solid Snake, so Microsoft has decided to bring
something as brilliant as the game on the 360.Word has it that the
company is in collaboration with a highly talented studio that can give
their Xbox 360 something way better than Snake.

According to sources, Microsoft executives saw a brief demo
of the game and came back thoroughly impressed. The core gameplay
mechanics has somewhat been finalized, but the studio is yet to decide
on the gameplay perspective (first person Vs third person). The
game is rumored to take place in the future and will incorporate major
political events that have occurred in the last few years. The studio
has managed to pull off visuals that were previously thought to be next
to impossible on the Xbox 360 and is supposed to look better than any
PS3 game that has been shown or is available on the platform
exclusively till date.

Metal Gear loggerheads and fanatics are going to have an insanely
twisted time with the game, says the source. Watch out for further
announcements regarding this uber-title sometime in the middle of 2008.

This could be good.

lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. lawlessx

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. donny666

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

[QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. kage_53

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

And? Why must every developer strive to be original? Especially given the fact that a portion of the community isn't even able to play MGS.

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. donny666

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

[QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. smerlus

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Saints Row was horrible...

[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. ImaPirate0202

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Saints Row was horrible...

you're right.... an 82% from from 88 professional gaming sites is such a horrible game

[QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. smerlus

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Ah, if you want to read something into my post that isn't there you could at least be a little more polite about it.

I never said anything remotely bad about Saints Row. As a matter of fact I was listing it as a reason to take a tried and true formulae and run with it.

[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. donny666

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Ah, if you want to read something into my post that isn't there you could at least be a little more polite about it.

I never said anything remotely bad about Saints Row. As a matter of fact I was listing it as a reason to take a tried and true formulae and run with it.

yeah i see that now... my bad :D

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. smerlus

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Saints Row was horrible...

you're right.... an 82% from from 88 professional gaming sites is such a horrible game

Reviews aside, I thought it was god awful.

[QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. ImaPirate0202

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Saints Row was horrible...

Saint's Row is sewage, but while knock-offs tend to be rushed, soulless and poorly constructed, that isn't always the case. Look at Forza, Sonic and Final Fight. All knock-offs, but all quality games. Some teams say 'Lets see how many people we can sucker into buying our game through its resemblance to a popular game', other teams think 'That was great, but I can make it better'.

I'm not taking a position on the quality or even the existence of the game that this thread is about (I am unfamiliar with the site that reported the news).

I think the idea that someone is just going to come out with a game that will make everyone forget about Metal Gear is a bit silly; the series has built a fanbase over the course of two decades. However, it will be interesting to see what happens when the MG Solid Snake Saga concludes this year with the release of Guns of the Patriots. Can Konami keep the interest in Metal Gear after its central character has ridden off into the sunset?

If this is legit, I don't see it as Microsoft going heads-up with MGS as much as making a strategic decision to try and capture the MGS fanbase at an opportune time.

You can see this same strategy playing out in Hollywood right now. Studios are producing films like The Golden Compass, Stardust, and Spiderwick Chronicles, trying to hit on the next big franchise now that the Harry Potter series is two films from completion.

(Lets hope Microsoft is more successful...)

Look at Forza, Sonic and Final Fight. All knock-offs, but all quality games.

CarnageHeart

Wait a minute. How is Sonic a knock off?

I am sure several of you have gotten way off topic. MGS4 may or may not be on the 360. Look at it like this. PS3 sales are down compared to the 360 and Wii. MGS4 has been in development for several years now and it takes so much money to make a game of this stature that it wouldnt be smart to release on one system. I see the game releasing for PS3 1st then 360 shortly after. If the sales are up we may see the game come to PC (hopefully).

Whatever title that Microsoft is going to release that is similar to MGS will be exciting to see.

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

Look at Forza, Sonic and Final Fight. All knock-offs, but all quality games.

Deflight289

Wait a minute. How is Sonic a knock off?

Technically, it's a Mario knockoff even though it plays differently in many aspects.

METAL GEAR SOLID IS NOT COMING TO THE 360, GET OVER ITSuper-Penguin

I own both consoles so the issue is moot for me personally but you might want to check recent sales before making such statements and passing them off as fact.

If these sales trends continue I really don't see MGS4 remaining a PS3 exclusive. Konami is in the business of making money last time I checked.

[QUOTE="Deflight289"][QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

Look at Forza, Sonic and Final Fight. All knock-offs, but all quality games.

Grammaton-Cleric

Wait a minute. How is Sonic a knock off?

Technically, it's a Mario knockoff even though it plays differently in many aspects.

Yeah you're really reaching there buddy but if you had said Nights was the ripoff then maybe you'd have a point there.

[QUOTE="ImaPirate0202"][QUOTE="smerlus"][QUOTE="donny666"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]lets hope its not a complete ripoff of the series. CarnageHeart

Look at Saints Row. Microsoft ripping off MGS wouldn't be that bad.

Saint's Row was a pretty damn good game... if you want to discredit something, you shouldn't choose something that turned out good

Saints Row was horrible...

Saint's Row is sewage,

'That was great, but I can make it better'.

Oh so by Violition taking the GTA type game, improving AI, friendly AI, adding physics, making everything tons more customizable, improving graphics, adding multiplayer to it, having a far superior controls when it comes to gun play both inside and outside of a car... that doesn't fall into the second bolded paragraph?

oh that's right, you only played the demo and what little you know about the game came from reading the bad parts of reviews.

when are you going to start your videogame site where you review games from demos and second hand impressions? I'd love to be a reviewer there, there are tons of games i haven't played and i'd love to review.

I think the port to the 360 depends on the sales...If it serlls like crazy on the PS3 (I bet it will) the possibility is low.But if it doesn´t sell as expected (BTW 1 Million on the first day...) It will be ported.Since the PS3 doesn´t do too well and the Konami-Bosses want to make even more Money...well it will be ported too...

We will see after it´s released on the PS3...

Oh so by Violition taking the GTA type game, improving AI, friendly AI, adding physics, making everything tons more customizable, improving graphics, adding multiplayer to it, having a far superior controls when it comes to gun play both inside and outside of a car... that doesn't fall into the second bolded paragraph?

oh that's right, you only played the demo and what little you know about the game came from reading the bad parts of reviews.

when are you going to start your videogame site where you review games from demos and second hand impressions? I'd love to be a reviewer there, there are tons of games i haven't played and i'd love to review.

smerlus

Your post contradicts itself. One second you say I only know what I've been told, the next you concede I played the demo. Next time take a deep breath and count to five before you type.

;) Judging by the blog of the whiny Burnout developer, you aren't the only person in the world shocked and horrified that people reach conclusions about a game based on the demo(nstration).

I don't think there's even the smallest chance of MGS being ported to Xbox.

It just doesn't.. "feel right", you know? It would be like playing Halo on the PS3...just wrong.

I think the port to the 360 depends on the sales...If it serlls like crazy on the PS3 (I bet it will) the possibility is low.But if it doesn´t sell as expected (BTW 1 Million on the first day...) It will be ported.Since the PS3 doesn´t do too well and the Konami-Bosses want to make even more Money...well it will be ported too...

We will see after it´s released on the PS3...

Ash2X

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see it pop up on the X360. It doesn't seem like Kojima is in favor of the idea (after the MGS2 port, he expressed his distate for the process), but Konami is, and MGS4 was made using Konami's money, not Kojima's. Kind of like with Mikami, if it comes down to a choice between (possibly) alienating their talent and a dumptruck load of money, I suspect Konami will opt for the dumptruck load of money.

I don't think there's even the smallest chance of MGS being ported to Xbox.

It just doesn't.. "feel right", you know? It would be like playing Halo on the PS3...just wrong.

the_one34

Feel right to who? I am sure X360 owners wouldn't mind and PS3 owners shouldn't either. The fact more people can play a game shouldn't lessen anyone's enjoyment.

Your post contradicts itself. One second you say I only know what I've been told, the next you concede I played the demo. Next time take a deep breath and count to five before you type.

;) Judging by the blog of the whiny Burnout developer, you aren't the only person in the world shocked and horrified that people reach conclusions about a game based on the demo(nstration).

CarnageHeart

how do i contradict myself? did it actually take you a full second between words in the same sentence where i say you played the demo and read only the bad parts of reviews? you should brush up on reading skills because that whole sentence takes me less than a second to read.

but come on...open that website... it will make a killing. you'd have the only website on the nets that reviews 40 hour games from 15 minutes of playing.

most demos come out before the full game hits the street, we'd have all the newest games reviewed before anyone else. we could have reviewed Blue Dragon like a month before it came out... you're letting opportunity pass you by

(oh and don't be hypocritical when it comes to contradictions... if you actually read the reviews in their entirety, they all say that certain parts of the GTA formula were improved and that Saint's Row is the second best GTA style game in existence. So that second part of your initial statement rings true for Saint's Row. So it is a Sonic the Hedgehog to the Mario Brother series... it's just that you wouldn't know becauseplayedless than 1% of the entire game)

;)

That link lost all credibility when I was selected to win two free iPod Nanos. juradai

Oh, I'm so there! Free iPods, here I come! :P

On a side note, guys. This sort of a newspiece has nothing to do with a 360 MGS port. This is about an alleged new IP that is supposedly being developed for that system, and that is supposed to steal some of MGS's spotlights.

For all we know, this source could be as credible as me pulling news outta my butt. Still, let's hope whatever thing is in the oven now (if there is anything, that is)turns out good. However, I believe that trying to build hype for a game by comparing it to a series as respected as MGS isn't the right path. A game (any game)should be weighed by its own merits. Taking into account the source, I think we should take this news with a truckload of salt, until further notice.

EDIT: And just for clarification, I don't mean it about all of you that are discussing the possibilities of such a port, butto the users that honestly believed this was about the existence of such a port. :)

[QUOTE="juradai"]That link lost all credibility when I was selected to win two free iPod Nanos. SteelAttack

Oh, I'm so there! Free iPods, here I come! :P

On a side note, guys. This sort of a newspiece has nothing to do with a 360 MGS port. This is about an alleged new IP that is supposedly being developed for that system, and that is supposed to steal some of MGS's spotlights.

For all we know, this source could be as credible as me pulling news outta my butt. Still, let's hope whatever thing is in the oven now (if there is anything, that is)turns out good. However, I believe that trying to build hype for a game by comparing it to a series as respected as MGS isn't the right path. A game (any game)should be weighed by its own merits. Taking into account the source, I think we should take this news with a truckload of salt, until further notice.

EDIT: And just for clarification, I don't mean it about all of you that are discussing the possibilities of such a port, butto the users that honestly believed this was about the existence of such a port. :)

I completely agree. If I was the one who made spilnter cell and heard MS saying they want a game which competes with mgsI'd cry all day...

...However, I believe that trying to build hype for a game by comparing it to a series as respected as MGS isn't the right path. A game (any game)should be weighed by its own merits...
SteelAttack

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

Your post contradicts itself. One second you say I only know what I've been told, the next you concede I played the demo. Next time take a deep breath and count to five before you type.

;) Judging by the blog of the whiny Burnout developer, you aren't the only person in the world shocked and horrified that people reach conclusions about a game based on the demo(nstration).

smerlus

how do i contradict myself? did it actually take you a full second between words in the same sentence where i say you played the demo and read only the bad parts of reviews? you should brush up on reading skills because that whole sentence takes me less than a second to read.

but come on...open that website... it will make a killing. you'd have the only website on the nets that reviews 40 hour games from 15 minutes of playing.

most demos come out before the full game hits the street, we'd have all the newest games reviewed before anyone else. we could have reviewed Blue Dragon like a month before it came out... you're letting opportunity pass you by

(oh and don't be hypocritical when it comes to contradictions... if you actually read the reviews in their entirety, they all say that certain parts of the GTA formula were improved and that Saint's Row is the second best GTA style game in existence. So that second part of your initial statement rings true for Saint's Row. So it is a Sonic the Hedgehog to the Mario Brother series... it's just that you wouldn't know becauseplayedless than 1% of the entire game)

;)

1% of a turd is merely a smallfraction of a turd, but it is still recognizable as a turd, at least to the more discerning.

Also, I've never set reviews above experience, so don't waste your time quoting reviews.

1% of a turd is merely a smallfraction of a turd, but it is still recognizable as a turd, at least to the more discerning.

Also, I've never set reviews above experience, so don't waste your time quoting reviews.

CarnageHeart

then let us apply your logic to other forms and see how well it works out.

"hey i listened to a minute of a song on a Beatles album and that song sucked... the whole cd must suck"

" hey i saw a commercial for the Godfather and all it had was some shooting and a raspy fat guy talking.... that movie sucks"

"hey I watched 4 minutes of that Patriots game the other day and they were losing, that team sucks"

and still you haven't clarified where you're not a hypocrite... how many improvements DID sonic the hedgehog make on the Super Mario Bros genre? i only see speed.... nothing else is any different... the boss battles aren't better than marios, the graphics aren't better, no improvement in story or AI... it made one small change and in your eyes it's a great spin off.

read above to see all the improvements Saint's Row made to GTA...

hmmm looks like you lost the argument again.

so in the end... open that website, when we make a name for ourselves. we can review tv shows off of commercials, we could review movies off of trailers, we could read the back page of a book and review a noveland we can listen to 15 second snippets of songs on amazon and review cds... There would be no other website like it. Our opinions would be unmatched by anyone else's

or people would laugh at us for talking about things we know nothing about either way, you seem content by it.

wow, did u even read the topic? (edit: crap, quick reply doesnt show original post...)

NE wayz a contender for mgs might be good, might not be, i mean, sony has been trying to contend with halo for a while now, but they haven't turned any good reults (yet). I think splinter cell needs a good revival and not this conviction **** i want to sneak an use night vision and stuff again!

[QUOTE="Grammaton-Cleric"][QUOTE="Deflight289"][QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

Look at Forza, Sonic and Final Fight. All knock-offs, but all quality games.

MentatAssassin

Wait a minute. How is Sonic a knock off?

Technically, it's a Mario knockoff even though it plays differently in many aspects.

Yeah you're really reaching there buddy but if you had said Nights was the ripoff then maybe you'd have a point there.

Sonic was developed on the SEGA Genesis in direct response to Mario. SEGA needed a mascot with the visibility of Mario so they made a platform game that borrowed numerous elements from Nintendo's franchise but placed a different spin on the gameplay.

"Knock-off" simply means it's derivative of what came before. Sonic wouldn't exist without Mario anymore than Saint's Row would exist without GTA.

[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

1% of a turd is merely a smallfraction of a turd, but it is still recognizable as a turd, at least to the more discerning.

Also, I've never set reviews above experience, so don't waste your time quoting reviews.

smerlus

then let us apply your logic to other forms and see how well it works out.

"hey i listened to a minute of a song on a Beatles album and that song sucked... the whole cd must suck"

" hey i saw a commercial for the Godfather and all it had was some shooting and a raspy fat guy talking.... that movie sucks"

"hey I watched 4 minutes of that Patriots game the other day and they were losing, that team sucks"

and still you haven't clarified where you're not a hypocrite... how many improvements DID sonic the hedgehog make on the Super Mario Bros genre? i only see speed.... nothing else is any different... the boss battles aren't better than marios, the graphics aren't better, no improvement in story or AI... it made one small change and in your eyes it's a great spin off.

read above to see all the improvements Saint's Row made to GTA...

hmmm looks like you lost the argument again.

so in the end... open that website, when we make a name for ourselves. we can review tv shows off of commercials, we could review movies off of trailers, we could read the back page of a book and review a noveland we can listen to 15 second snippets of songs on amazon and review cds... There would be no other website like it. Our opinions would be unmatched by anyone else's

or people would laugh at us for talking about things we know nothing about either way, you seem content by it.

Even though I don't personally agree with Carnage's assessment that SR is "sewage", that demo offered on XBL was meaty and offered up pretty much the whole experience of Saint's Row in an hour. Despite the amount of missions offered, the full game doesn't play or deliver an experience all that differentfrom what is offered in the demo. I think he could accurately gauge the quality of the game by playing the demo.

Personally, I think SR was a decent game but it failed in many important ways and I expect GTAIV to crush it and its sequel into powder for obvious reasons.

How about instead of wasting time arguing over something that has nothing to do with this topic, we talk about the topic at hand? The statement that ms might be making a game with the intent of stealing metal gear solid's spotlight is quite a bold one to make. While i certainly don't hold it against them to try it, the question is what can they do to appeal to the metal gear fans without being a blatant rip off. Better yet, what would they need to do to be better than metal gear? Even though i'm not a fan of those games, i think it'll be quite the challenge for ms to manage this.Kazona

Fair enough.

I need more details before I can get excited (screenshots, video, the identity of the developer and an interview with them) but its always interesting to learn what is in the pipelines. Hopefully more details will be released soon, though I wouldn't be shocked if we had to wait until the next E3.

How about instead of wasting time arguing over something that has nothing to do with this topic, we talk about the topic at hand? The statement that ms might be making a game with the intent of stealing metal gear solid's spotlight is quite a bold one to make. While i certainly don't hold it against them to try it, the question is what can they do to appeal to the metal gear fans without being a blatant rip off. Better yet, what would they need to do to be better than metal gear? Even though i'm not a fan of those games, i think it'll be quite the challenge for ms to manage this.Kazona

theres not enough informationfrom thetopic to warrant conversation. I could post a blog on the internet saying Samsung is talking about making a system and Fisher Price is doing a Mario Clone for it... and technically I just gave out more information than this topic has (at least i'm naming a dev)

I don't get it? Why are people getting mad about a game on Xbox360 which shares some similiar game elements from MGS but is not MGS? I mean yeah i would definitely be p***ed if the article proved that the MGS4 is coming to Xbox360 but i highly doubt it happening since sony will do everything in their power to keep the game exclusive.Mcgnnis1

Why would you be ps'ed off if MGS4 came to the 360? If that happens then Konami will just be making more money to make better games in the future. M$

[QUOTE="Ash2X"]

I think the port to the 360 depends on the sales...If it serlls like crazy on the PS3 (I bet it will) the possibility is low.But if it doesn´t sell as expected (BTW 1 Million on the first day...) It will be ported.Since the PS3 doesn´t do too well and the Konami-Bosses want to make even more Money...well it will be ported too...

We will see after it´s released on the PS3...

CarnageHeart

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to see it pop up on the X360. It doesn't seem like Kojima is in favor of the idea (after the MGS2 port, he expressed his distate for the process), but Konami is, and MGS4 was made using Konami's money, not Kojima's. Kind of like with Mikami, if it comes down to a choice between (possibly) alienating their talent and a dumptruck load of money, I suspect Konami will opt for the dumptruck load of money.

Always sounds a bit hard,but it´s always all about money...