More Love for the Original XBox

They might have sold a little better on the GC in Japan but those games likely would've failed the same as on Xbox. I've never actually played GunValkyrie. Maybe I'll keep an eye out for it.Eikichi-Onizuka

They would've sold ALOT better in Japan if they had been on any system other than the XBOX. I've no doubt about it.

They even made a special system edition with PANZER DRAGOON ORTA in Japan, and it sold so poorly that the few units that got around are now highly sought-after collectibles.

Hell, I even would call the 2 million units it sold in Japan "dubious" at best. A whole lot of that came from clearance sales.

[QUOTE="Eikichi-Onizuka"]They might have sold a little better on the GC in Japan but those games likely would've failed the same as on Xbox. I've never actually played GunValkyrie. Maybe I'll keep an eye out for it.Panzer_Zwei

They would've sold ALOT better in Japan if they had been on any system other than the XBOX. I've no doubt about it.

They even made a special system edition with PANZER DRAGOON ORTA in Japan, and it sold so poorly that the few units that got around are now highly sought-after collectibles.

Hell, I even would call the 2 million units it sold in Japan "dubious" at best. A whole lot of that came from clearance sales.

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[QUOTE="Eikichi-Onizuka"]They might have sold a little better on the GC in Japan but those games likely would've failed the same as on Xbox. I've never actually played GunValkyrie. Maybe I'll keep an eye out for it.Darkman2007

They would've sold ALOT better in Japan if they had been on any system other than the XBOX. I've no doubt about it.

They even made a special system edition with PANZER DRAGOON ORTA in Japan, and it sold so poorly that the few units that got around are now highly sought-after collectibles.

Hell, I even would call the 2 million units it sold in Japan "dubious" at best. A whole lot of that came from clearance sales.

Okay WWE Raw 1 and 2 are terrible games. Plus Phantom Dust is missing as a great exclusive.Allicrombie

thank you for confirming.

also phantdom dust wa smad eby same director as panzer dragoon saga. awesome game

[QUOTE="Allicrombie"]Okay WWE Raw 1 and 2 are terrible games. Plus Phantom Dust is missing as a great exclusive.Emerald_Warrior

Okay fine, you guys win. You guys can declare it as a crappy wrestling game. But I'm gonna continue to play Goldberg vs. HHH and other dream matches in glorious XBox shine & polish.

ok fine for you, I can play goldberg vs hhh on wwe here comes the pain on ps2, which is a FAR better game. just visit any reasonable wrestlinggame forum and ask. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Eikichi-Onizuka"]They might have sold a little better on the GC in Japan but those games likely would've failed the same as on Xbox. I've never actually played GunValkyrie. Maybe I'll keep an eye out for it.Darkman2007

They would've sold ALOT better in Japan if they had been on any system other than the XBOX. I've no doubt about it.

They even made a special system edition with PANZER DRAGOON ORTA in Japan, and it sold so poorly that the few units that got around are now highly sought-after collectibles.

Hell, I even would call the 2 million units it sold in Japan "dubious" at best. A whole lot of that came from clearance sales.

isn't that clear? japanese buy japanese products. just look at the utter **** they accept from nintendo every generation. although I will give them that microsoft and especially 360 are consoles you really don't need if you own a ps3 or ps2

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

They would've sold ALOT better in Japan if they had been on any system other than the XBOX. I've no doubt about it.

They even made a special system edition with PANZER DRAGOON ORTA in Japan, and it sold so poorly that the few units that got around are now highly sought-after collectibles.

Hell, I even would call the 2 million units it sold in Japan "dubious" at best. A whole lot of that came from clearance sales.

Eikichi-Onizuka

no they don't :roll:

This system doesn't get nearly enough love. It was the powerhouse of consoles last-generation. It had the best version multiplatform games in most cases. It had XBox Live when Gamecube and PS2 were struggling with the online thing. And the hard-drive was great for having tons of room for game saves rather than managing miniscule memory cards, and it was great for in-game personal soundtracks.

But more importantly is the library. I hear it talked about around here like it had the library of the Jaguar or 32X or something. It has a huge a library of great exclusives and the best multiplatform versions of games. And it has a great selection of action-RPGs, which is great for me personally. My favorite genre:

Great Exclusives:

• Arx Fatalix
• Buffy the Vampire Slayer
• The Chronicles of Riddick, Escape From Butcher Bay
• Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
• Dead or Alive 3
• Dungeons & Dragons: Heroes
• The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind: Game of the Year Edition
• Fable: The Lost Chapters
• Far Cry: Instincts
• Halo 1 & 2
• House of the Dead 3 (exclusive until the Wii got a port a few years later)
• Jade Empire
• MechAssault 1 & 2
• Ninja Gaiden
• Panzer Dragoon: Orta
• Project Gotham Racing
• Shenmue II (exclusive in the U.S.)
• Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 1 & 2
• Stubbs the Zombie in Rebel Without a Pulse
• Tecmo Arcade Classics Collection
• WWE Raw 1 & 2

Great Multiplatform Games:

• Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 1 & 2
• Capcom Classics Collection
• Darkwatch
• Destroy All Humans 1 & 2
• Grand Theft Auto Series
• The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
• Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
• Mortal Kombat Series
• Mega Man Anniversary Collection
• Need For Speed Series
• Red Faction II
• Sonic Mega Collection Plus
• Soul Calibur II
• Spider-Man 1 & 2
• Star Wars: Battlefront 1 & 2
• Street Fighter: Anniversary Collection
• Tony Hawk's Underground 1 & 2
• X-Men: Legends 1 & 2

Emerald_Warrior

no they don't :roll:

bultje112

BO2

MW2

All 3 are in the top 5 at least. So I think it's safe to say they do.

I couldn't find the charts for the first BO and the first MW though, whenever I googled them it would only show the charts for the latest BO/MW.

although I will give them that microsoft and especially 360 are consoles you really don't need if you own a ps3 or ps2bultje112

I personally can't really speak for the 360/PS3 thing, I haven't even played much of either, and both have lot of exclusives I'd like to try out. But the original XBOX is more than worth having even if you have a PS2 (I don't think it's worth having OVER a PS2, but even if you own a PS2 it's worth getting an XBOX, I thought otherwise until I was given an original XBOX about a year ago).

[QUOTE="bultje112"]

no they don't :roll:

Dudersaper

BO2

MW2

All 3 are in the top 5 at least. So I think it's safe to say they do.

I couldn't find the charts for the first BO and the first MW though, whenever I googled them it would only show the charts for the latest BO/MW.

although I will give them that microsoft and especially 360 are consoles you really don't need if you own a ps3 or ps2bultje112

I personally can't really speak for the 360/PS3 thing, I haven't even played much of either, and both have lot of exclusives I'd like to try out. But the original XBOX is more than worth having even if you have a PS2 (I don't think it's worth having OVER a PS2, but even if you own a PS2 it's worth getting an XBOX, I thought otherwise until I was given an original XBOX about a year ago).

topping the charts is something else than selling in the top 5. and overall over a year doesn't come near the top 10 best selling games anywhere close in japan.

The original Xbox is one of the best consoles ever due to the reasons you stated in the OP.. I am trying to focus on only collecting Xbox games aswell for the next few weeks

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

I was under the impression the XBOX was the second best-selling system of the last generation. Way below the PS2, but outselling the GC and DC.

The system got lots of love from how I see it.

Emerald_Warrior

I meant around here. I see people bashing the console on a regular basis.

This year, blame "you know who" for the "bashing" really.

Alot of these exclusives people are listing for the xbox aren't exclusive I can play them on my pc didn't release the xbox was so weak in the exclusive department.DJ_Headshot

[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]Alot of these exclusives people are listing for the xbox aren't exclusive I can play them on my pc didn't release the xbox was so weak in the exclusive department.Dudersaper

They still took them a year or more to port those games. In the case of the XBOX, a lot of games were released for the XBOX and PC at the same time or nearly at the same time.

Also, for some reason a lot of those 32-bit console games that were ported to PCs weren't as good as the PS or SS originals, whereas when it came to XBOX and PC versions, the PC versions were often the best ones.

[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]Alot of these exclusives people are listing for the xbox aren't exclusive I can play them on my pc didn't release the xbox was so weak in the exclusive department.Panzer_Zwei

They still took them a year or more to port those games. In the case of the XBOX, a lot of games were released for the XBOX and PC at the same time or nearly at the same time.

Also, for some reason a lot of those 32-bit console games that were ported to PCs weren't as good as the PS or SS originals, whereas when it came to XBOX and PC versions, the PC versions were often the best ones.

Especially because, if one wants to use extremes, you could say PC can play anything because of emulators so nothing is exclusive :P

[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]Alot of these exclusives people are listing for the xbox aren't exclusive I can play them on my pc didn't release the xbox was so weak in the exclusive department.Panzer_Zwei

They still took them a year or more to port those games. In the case of the XBOX, a lot of games were released for the XBOX and PC at the same time or nearly at the same time.

Also, for some reason a lot of those 32-bit console games that were ported to PCs weren't as good as the PS or SS originals, whereas when it came to XBOX and PC versions, the PC versions were often the best ones.

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[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I guess, but PC doesn't really come into play when talking about console exclusives. Or else lots of PS1 and Saturn titles (Final Fantasy VII, Panzer Dragoon, etc etc) couldn't be considered exclusive since lot were ported to PC. btw, Katawa Shoujo is freakin' awesome :PDudersaper

They still took them a year or more to port those games. In the case of the XBOX, a lot of games were released for the XBOX and PC at the same time or nearly at the same time.

Also, for some reason a lot of those 32-bit console games that were ported to PCs weren't as good as the PS or SS originals, whereas when it came to XBOX and PC versions, the PC versions were often the best ones.

Especially because, if one wants to use extremes, you could say PC can play anything because of emulators so nothing is exclusive :P

Again, it's not quite the same case. There were no emulators in the 16-bit and 32-bit generations. You couldn't choose the PC as a real alternate platform for playing the console games you wanted back then.

Nowadays, even if you don't take emulators into account, there's plenty of alternatives to playing those old games, whether on game compilations or as digital downloads across most console and handheld systems.

With the XBOX and PC however, people actually could weight down whether to purchase their new games on the XBOX or PC. Just how is that different from multiplatform releases between consoles?

I don't see how you could say you can't take that into account when I'm sure a lot of people were making that choice, just like nowadays.

I don't see how you could say you can't take that into account when I'm sure a lot of people were making that choice, just like nowadays.Panzer_Zwei

Well then, if XBox's exclusives don't count because they're on PC, then neither do half of PS2's "exclusives".

Well then, if XBox's exclusives don't count because they're on PC, then neither do half of PS2's "exclusives".

Emerald_Warrior

However, the PS2 definitely didn't shared as many titles with the PC as the XBOX. There's uncountable games which only appeared on the PS2.

Honestly, most people don't even know half of the PS2 "exclusives". Specially those which never left Japan.

Honestly, most people don't even know half of the PS2 "exclusives". Specially those which never left Japan.

Panzer_Zwei

yeah I agree. a few certain original Xbox games in their prime were pretty entertaining. Such as Jade Empire, Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2, Ninja Gaiden/Ninja gaiden Black, Fable, Far Cry Instintcs and Doom 3.

In fact they're still fun to play even to this day

I have always enjoyed the original Xbox. I ended up getting mine during launch for christmas from my parents. I still remember opening it up, and playing the original Halo, and Dead or Alive 3. Man I sure enjoyed it, I own all game consoles but ever since Microsoft came to the scene I have been more of an Xbox guy.

Xbox Live was awesome I still remember playing MechAssault. It's amazing now it is standard to play people all across the world, and the Xbox also got rid of the long dated memory card, and made it standard for hard drives.

Miss those days but I have enjoyed the Xbox 360 just as much. Great system, great games, and Xbox Live was just awesome. I miss last-generation quite a bit, I thought there was a lot more quality titles, and all three systems(GC, PS2, and Xbox) just brought unique games to the table.

Great system. One of my favorites!

The majority of people that say that the gamecube and/or ps2 was better obviously never experienced xbox live properly. It was the **** and I feel sorry for anyone that missed out