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You can say what you want about those games but those are pretty revolutionary games.
FFVII brought JRPGs to the mainstream in the west and was perhaps the first major game to revolutionize CG movies with the game's story, Halo revolutionized console FPS and multiplayer for consoles and literally saved Microsoft's endeavor into console gaming, and God of War revolutionized the action/adventure genre by fusing the best of Japanese and western game design elements in a successful and big way. God of War 2 being the best action/adventure game during its release on a last-gen system is a testament to how amazing the series really is.
I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated.Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
pecanin
[QUOTE="pecanin"]I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated. I can. It seemed pretty sublime from the five or so hours I played before my computer crash wiped my hard drive, but considering the sheer quantity of acclaim it's received, if you're anything less than completely in love you'd likely feel pretty disconnected from your fellow gamers on the issue.Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
ASK_Story
[QUOTE="pecanin"]I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated.Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
ASK_Story
It is ,it hasn't delivered anything new except gimmicks and if i am going to change my entire gaming life i need something better than game that introduced
corporate spyware into our life ( steam) . Half Life 2 is nothing without community mods same goes for original HL
Halo didn't revolutionize console FPS, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark did. God of War pales in comparison to Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry. And while I think FFVII is awful, it did make JRPGs popular outside Japan.You can say what you want about those games but those are pretty revolutionary games.
FFVII brought JRPGs to the mainstream in the west and was perhaps the first major game to revolutionize CG movies with the game's story, Halo revolutionized console FPS and multiplayer for consoles and literally saved Microsoft's endeavor into console gaming, and God of War revolutionized the action/adventure genre by fusing the best of Japanese and western game design elements in a successful and big way. God of War 2 being the best action/adventure game during its release on a last-gen system is a testament to how amazing the series really is.
ASK_Story
[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Halo didn't revolutionize console FPS, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark did. God of War pales in comparison to Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry. And while I think FFVII is awful, it did make JRPGs popular outside Japan. I think you should research a bit on the Halo thing. And no, God of War doesn't pale in comparison to Ninja Gaiden or DMC.You can say what you want about those games but those are pretty revolutionary games.
FFVII brought JRPGs to the mainstream in the west and was perhaps the first major game to revolutionize CG movies with the game's story, Halo revolutionized console FPS and multiplayer for consoles and literally saved Microsoft's endeavor into console gaming, and God of War revolutionized the action/adventure genre by fusing the best of Japanese and western game design elements in a successful and big way. God of War 2 being the best action/adventure game during its release on a last-gen system is a testament to how amazing the series really is.
BattleTurtles
[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Halo didn't revolutionize console FPS, Goldeneye and Perfect Dark did. God of War pales in comparison to Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry. And while I think FFVII is awful, it did make JRPGs popular outside Japan. I think you should research a bit on the Halo thing. And no, God of War doesn't pale in comparison to Ninja Gaiden or DMC. Well in my opinion, it does.You can say what you want about those games but those are pretty revolutionary games.
FFVII brought JRPGs to the mainstream in the west and was perhaps the first major game to revolutionize CG movies with the game's story, Halo revolutionized console FPS and multiplayer for consoles and literally saved Microsoft's endeavor into console gaming, and God of War revolutionized the action/adventure genre by fusing the best of Japanese and western game design elements in a successful and big way. God of War 2 being the best action/adventure game during its release on a last-gen system is a testament to how amazing the series really is.
ASK_Story
You know, some games I play and I think "this really isn't my thing, but I certainly see why some people think this is brilliant". Had that moment with Call of Duty 4 when I tried it at a friend's house. But there are certain games that just simply aren't as good as people think. The best example? Final Fantasy VII. Incredibly shallow gameplay system, because there is very little you can do to develop your characters or alter them in meaningful ways. The materia system only really lets you define your characters as either fighters or spell-casters, while rewarding you a little if you experiment with combinations. Yet that system itself is incredibly binary; you either have a successful combination or not. Just because the combat system is fluid, and looks good, doesn't mean that there's anything under the hood. Then there's the story. Yes, there are elements that are intriguing. I was interested in the relationship between Sephiroth and Cloud, and some of the characters were interesting, but half of the supporting cast consisted of stereotyped, cardboard caricatures, and the ones that actually were somewhat interesting, Red XIII and Cait Sith in particular, were the ones that received the least screen time. The environmental themes were more than a touch preachy. Oh, and the translation was awful. It wouldn't start to turn the corner until Final Fantasy VIII. There are other flaws; inconsistent art style, strange animations, inconsistent pacing... and it's frustrating to see it possess so much acclaim when the games that came immediately before and after it in the series, are both infinitely better and far less popular, especially the oft-misunderstood Final Fantasy VIII.Oilers99That is true.....but more needs to be added FFVII rips off FFVI's story structure, you have an amnesic hero (VI: Terra VII: Cloud) who works for an evil organization (VI: The Empire VII: Shinra Corp) but then falls under a resistance group (VI; Returners VII: AVALANCHE) and assists them. Meanwhile an experiemental solider under the evil organization (VI; Kefka VII: Sephiroth) goes awry, turns against the evil organization, and becomes an even bigger threat than the organization. Then the party must work together and face this threat in a final battle in which he turns into an angel like being. Basically just like FFVI without an incredible second main protagonist (Celes), great characters, adherence to the main narrative theme, proper pacing, freedom, a consistant art style, and charm. When a game is not as good as its predecessor, but looked on as the greatest thing ever, its overrated. I find that IX, Tactics, and XII beat FFVII as well. Hell, FFVII wasn't even the best FF game of 1997.
[QUOTE="pecanin"]I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated.Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
ASK_Story
It's bland? I played it and kept waiting for "TEH AWESOME!" to hit and it never did. The story was boring and I found it hard to follow, the characters unimaginative, the levels boring. I don't see what is so great about the game or what others see in it. To me it's just a generic shooter. I found games like bioshock and bloodlines to be far better. And when people throw around "best game ever made" "most revolutionairy game ever" "incredibly original" it's probably overrated.
Ohhhh I think this post will generate a flame or two directed at me by someone. But it's just my opinion. I never cared for HL2.
I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated.[QUOTE="ASK_Story"][QUOTE="pecanin"]
Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
Pixel-Pirate
It's bland? I played it and kept waiting for "TEH AWESOME!" to hit and it never did. The story was boring and I found it hard to follow, the characters unimaginative, the levels boring. I don't see what is so great about the game or what others see in it. To me it's just a generic shooter. I found games like bioshock and bloodlines to be far better. And when people throw around "best game ever made" "most revolutionairy game ever" "incredibly original" it's probably overrated.
Ohhhh I think this post will generate a flame or two directed at me by someone. But it's just my opinion. I never cared for HL2.
It is all about opinions ,i'm sure most of us have their favourite games which others sneer at ,but when ppl start defending games like HL2 (which i hate ),that is when you have to point out all of it's flaws.As a gamer i will play anything that holds my attention ,but to say that one game is best is too much . That game would have to be something special and sadly each game that you or i posses has it's flaws
[QUOTE="pecanin"]I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated. It is very overatted in comparison with half life that was far bettter. Better levels, combat, weapons ai. Some of the levels and situations in hl2 were cheap excuses to use the gravity gun with very annoying parts and even pretty damn borring i dare to say!!! In simple words "NOT perfect" Not even nearly as great fps experiance as they say, especially the episodes are very overatted since their technology/graphics are pretty dated!!Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
ASK_Story
[QUOTE="ASK_Story"][QUOTE="pecanin"]I honestly don't understand how anyone can think Half-Life 2 is overrated. It is very overatted in comparison with half life that was far bettter. Better levels, combat, weapons ai. Some of the levels and situations in hl2 were cheap excuses to use the gravity gun with very annoying parts and even pretty damn borring i dare to say!!! In simple words "NOT perfect" Not even nearly as great fps experiance as they say, especially the episodes are very overatted since their technology/graphics are pretty dated!!Take any list of "Best Games of all time" and you'll find many games that are just plain average on those lists .
FF VII
Half Life 2
Deus Ex
Doom
all good games,some groundbreaking in certain parts but great no not really .
dakan45
Entire bloody game was just an excuse to force Steam on gamers
There are many great games, but some are jsut ok, but like bien overrate ya kno. which games u think they are. i personally think Final fantasy VII, god of war, and the halo series to be overrated NicaraoXXVII
Final fantasy VII is the best game ever made , you don't have a taste
but you are right about HALO , it's the worst shooting game i ever played , it seems that microsoft pays people to make them play the game :P
Wind Waker GTA4 MGS4BattleTurtles
you are right about GTA4 , every mission is "go kill him","go kill that" or "i don't like him ,go kill him" kill kill kill , that's what the game is all about
but how come you say MGS4 ???
it's the best game ever made on PS3 , didn't you play it?
Wind waker is also amazing , it's never overrated
Call of Duty games. The single player campaigns are awful and the multiplayer gets old after three rounds, though I did enjoy world at war. Halo series is overrated as well, the third game was just bad.monkeymoose5000
Every HALO game is bad , not just the third one
speaking of call of duty games . they are regular ,nothing special about them , but what's really cool about the series is "Modern Warfare" and "Modern Warfare 2" , i really enjoyed playing them
for your information , Modern warfare sold 13 million copies worldwide , how come it's overrated? it's not.
gta4
MGS4
Half Life 2
Uncharted 2
L4D2
Portal
Pixel-Pirate
:S :S :S
these games are the best games ever made , all of them are top 10
let me ask you what game do you like ,honestly
brutal legend, that game was brutal... ledgend...? yes that game was brutal legend... wut? wow was i really talking to my self... time to find a gf...unknown_hero8
the game is great , only for those who love rock and metal music , but i agree about the name , why did they call it Brutal legend? the name sucks
[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"]Wind Waker GTA4 MGS4theprototype0
you are right about GTA4 , every mission is "go kill him","go kill that" or "i don't like him ,go kill him" kill kill kill , that's what the game is all about
but how come you say MGS4 ???
it's the best game ever made on PS3 , didn't you play it?
Wind waker is also amazing , it's never overrated
MGS4 is overrated because of it's poor writing, redundant dialogue, story is ridiculous, awkward pacing, cutscenes overshadowing gameplay in the later acts, conflicting stealth/action design, bad forced stealth section at beginning of Act III, average gunplay, boss fights not living up to series standard, etc.Halo 2 & 3
Burnout franchise - I've tried these games, always they seemed total **** to me.
Half-Life franchise, though I loved TFC
CoD to some extent, though I know why it's so popular.
Little Big Planet
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