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#51 Overlord93
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It's accepted in TV and film where the people are real. Why should games, where the people are made of polygons, be any different?

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yeah, it really wouldn't help the reputation of games, if they suddenly started exposing naked bodies all the time. The game world is struggling with objectising women already. If TV ain't doing it, there is no reason for games to.
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#52 CarnageHeart
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[QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]

It's accepted in TV and film where the people are real. Why should games, where the people are made of polygons, be any different?

Overlord93

yeah, it really wouldn't help the reputation of games, if they suddenly started exposing naked bodies all the time. The game world is struggling with objectising women already. If TV ain't doing it, there is no reason for games to.

Living down to the biases of non-gamers who want the industry baby safe wouldn't be interesting for gamers or healthy for game companies.

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#53 istuffedsunny
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Nudity in videogames isn't a problem, you're thinking of nudity in the UNITED STATES. You can watch someone get sliced in half on TV but don't ever count on seeing a woman's bare ass. It's the opposite in most other countries. I don't mind nudity one bit, but I do find it sad when developers have to rely on horny teenagers to buy their games (God of War, Duke Nukem, etc)
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#54 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="broken_bass_bin"]

It's accepted in TV and film where the people are real. Why should games, where the people are made of polygons, be any different?

CarnageHeart

yeah, it really wouldn't help the reputation of games, if they suddenly started exposing naked bodies all the time. The game world is struggling with objectising women already. If TV ain't doing it, there is no reason for games to.

Living down to the biases of non-gamers who want the industry baby safe wouldn't be interesting for gamers or healthy for game companies.

Considering films are generally more storyline driven than video games. If you don't need to show flesh in a film, you certainly don't need to in a game. It will just seem tacked on. With the exception of games which are practically films such as heavy rain, but other than that...
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#55 CarnageHeart
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[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"] yeah, it really wouldn't help the reputation of games, if they suddenly started exposing naked bodies all the time. The game world is struggling with objectising women already. If TV ain't doing it, there is no reason for games to.Overlord93

Living down to the biases of non-gamers who want the industry baby safe wouldn't be interesting for gamers or healthy for game companies.

Considering films are generally more storyline driven than video games. If you don't need to show flesh in a film, you certainly don't need to in a game. It will just seem tacked on. With the exception of games which are practically films such as heavy rain, but other than that...

What does whether or not a game is storyline driven have to do with anything? Nudity in any fictional setting (be it the setting of a game or a movie) is there at the discretion of its creators.

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#56 CarnageHeart
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Nudity in videogames isn't a problem, you're thinking of nudity in the UNITED STATES. You can watch someone get sliced in half on TV but don't ever count on seeing a woman's bare ass. It's the opposite in most other countries. I don't mind nudity one bit, but I do find it sad when developers have to rely on horny teenagers to buy their games (God of War, Duke Nukem, etc)istuffedsunny

Sex didn't sell games before the internet made access to porn incredibly easy and it certainly doesn't now.

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#57 CarnageHeart
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I'm 46 years old and I don't see what's wrong with nudity in games - it's in other forms of entertainment like movies.

I hear people saying that nudity is only for 12 year olds, but those people are usually 12 years old and think that not liking nudity makes them appear more mature. It does just the opposite.

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Yeah, that's pretty much my take. I'm a mere 36 but I don't find nudity shocking or horrifying. I won't play a game with nudity in front of my daughters (or of course, let them play such a game) but since its so prevelent in other media I find it unreasonable that some seek to hold games to a higher standard.

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#58 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

Living down to the biases of non-gamers who want the industry baby safe wouldn't be interesting for gamers or healthy for game companies.

CarnageHeart

Considering films are generally more storyline driven than video games. If you don't need to show flesh in a film, you certainly don't need to in a game. It will just seem tacked on. With the exception of games which are practically films such as heavy rain, but other than that...

What does whether or not a game is storyline driven have to do with anything? Nudity in any fictional setting (be it the setting of a game or a movie) is there at the discretion of its creators.

I guess, but If I was playing, say, gears of war, and all of a sudden there was a sex scene. I would be weirded out.
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#59 AlmostUndead
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...sure...why not? Movies have them. Everyone has a body of their own (I think). On top of that it's only polygons. Deem it rated "M" instead of "AO" because MOST people have sex by the time they are 16, so I doubt anyone would be affected by it. This whole matter is messed up though, with violence and all. Why not love...maaaaan?
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#60 BladesOfAthena
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[QUOTE="CarnageHeart"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"] Considering films are generally more storyline driven than video games. If you don't need to show flesh in a film, you certainly don't need to in a game. It will just seem tacked on. With the exception of games which are practically films such as heavy rain, but other than that...Overlord93

What does whether or not a game is storyline driven have to do with anything? Nudity in any fictional setting (be it the setting of a game or a movie) is there at the discretion of its creators.

I guess, but If I was playing, say, gears of war, and all of a sudden there was a sex scene. I would be weirded out.

Whether or not you're weirded out is inconsequential. I'd feel weirded out too if I saw a sex scene in a Disney flick but do my feelings matter? Certainly not.

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#61 BladesOfAthena
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Nudity in videogames isn't a problem, you're thinking of nudity in the UNITED STATES. You can watch someone get sliced in half on TV but don't ever count on seeing a woman's bare ass. It's the opposite in most other countries. I don't mind nudity one bit, but I do find it sad when developers have to rely on horny teenagers to buy their games (God of War, Duke Nukem, etc)istuffedsunny

Riiiight....millions of teenagersbought God Of Warsolely for the teeny sex scene that lasted for no more than 2 minutes of playing time. *rolls eyes*

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#62 Lucianu
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Really, Malestation included?

A NES costs the same as a xBox 360 factoring in inflation.

My parents bought a NES when I was 6 years old -- and what was I doing? Stomping Goomba's of course - only now that sounds sorta anti-Italian.gideonkain

Nothing to do with the disscusion i had before.



It's really silly to assume that one or even a dozen games or movies are going to warp children into sociopaths...thats the kind of BS that blinds people to what really matters.

It's well unerstood that coddling children has more long term detramental effects than allowing for experience backed by responsible guidance.gideonkain

Nothing to do with what i posted, yet again. And lmao @ comparing Mario with shooters. Why are you putting words were i never said anything regarding what you posted?

Let me get to the content which you quoted, and ask you, if you disagree with that particular content from my post:

- So are you saying that a parent buying a 9 - 10 year old, popular shooters and letting them play online, hearing swear word after swear word, is a okei thing to do? If not, then that was my point, end, nothing els. And if you're saying that it's a OK thing, then i disagree, end of it, nothing els.

What you wrote in your response is your own personal thing that i have no interesting in, whatsoever.

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#63 rangegear
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What is the point of hiding the human body, we all have one. That is my point of view.ShadowDeathX
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#64 deactivated-60e799a72eb68
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It shouldn't be an issue. I can't even imagine the thinking behind "violence is ok, but a nipple isn't".

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#65 Mr_Cumberdale
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If you want nudity, look at other forms of entertainment. Games are made to be fun, and that can be done without nudity.
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#66 olrion
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I have no particular qualms about it, assuming it is neccesary within a given story, but most of the time I think developers add in heatedscenes just so people go out and buy it. To me, that is pretty sad. Sorry if I offend anyone by saying that but in my opinion video games are moving into a pretty dire direction whereby the focus is increasingly moving towards sordid exposure.

It bugs me that pretty much every female character in video games these days wear low cut tops exposing oversized busts and generally wear as little as possible. It's unneccesary and is actually more offputting than appealing. I was playing Dragon Origins the other day and a character called Morrigan (I think) was standing in the middle of a warzone having just fought off a legion of men in practically a bikini. Why?

There are too many of these instances in gaming these days. If its neccesary then sure add in a little bit of skin, but most of the time I'd really prefer if there was less skin and more emphasis on story, gameplay and all the other elements that make games fun to play.

If we wanted to see a woman in a bikini for no apparent reason then buy an FHM!

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I have no particular qualms about it, assuming it is neccesary within a given story, but most of the time I think developers add in heatedscenes just so people go out and buy it. To me, that is pretty sad. Sorry if I offend anyone by saying that but in my opinion video games are moving into a pretty dire direction whereby the focus is increasingly moving towards sordid exposure.

It bugs me that pretty much every female character in video games these days wear low cut tops exposing oversized busts and generally wear as little as possible. It's unneccesary and is actually more offputting than appealing. I was playing Dragon Origins the other day and a character called Morrigan (I think) was standing in the middle of a warzone having just fought off a legion of men in practically a bikini. Why?

There are too many of these instances in gaming these days. If its neccesary then sure add in a little bit of skin, but most of the time I'd really prefer if there was less skin and more emphasis on story, gameplay and all the other elements that make games fun to play.

If we wanted to see a woman in a bikini for no apparent reason then buy an FHM!

olrion

Like I said before, sexual content has never sold videogames (nowadays, its hard to avoid on the internet for free).

Given Dragon Age Origin's infamous sex, blood and rock n' roll commercial, what did you expect? Bioware is a talented studio, but also a big pander bear. Despite the fact thatthey've been popular since their console debut (nods towards KOTOR)in the last several years they've done whatever they believed would make their games more popular (whether though be insulting traditional rpgs, including a heavy action component or including nudity).

Like with the some people (the people who assume that story has to come at the cost of gameplay) you assume a push-pull relation where none exists (nobody will ever accuse Xenogears of not focusing on story, but Xenogears had a brief scene in which Elly was nude after she and Fei made love).

Also, like with most commercial fiction (even the cast of the average sitcom), in games woman (and to a lesser extent, men) tend to be more beautiful than the average person. All things being equal, people prefer beautiful over ugly or even plain. That's perfectly natural.

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#68 Crazy_Jane
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I'm glad I started this. People are getting their many and varied opinions out.

Can't say I agree with 90% of them, but that's the fun part..

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#69 flexin007
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I remember the chick in GoW 2 with an absolutely perfect vagina...mmmmmmmmmmm Then in the HD remake they changed the scene a bit and hid the beauty. I was disappointed son..........

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#70 JasonDarksavior
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It's a bit awkward if there is a sex scene in a game or whatever and someone walks by the TV.
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#71 multiplat
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[QUOTE="outatime557"]

I don't like nudity in any of my entertainment really. When I'm gaming or watching a movie I just want to escape from reality for a short while and/or be intellectually stimulated, and if you stick a couple of boobs in there it's hard to focus on anything else. :P

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this. plus the fact that im muslim so im not allowed to look at this stuff

Well by that logic, christians, catholics, and jews technically should not look at that stuff either. It depends how religous u are, I have friends of all faiths and they are not as strict as u
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#72 multiplat
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I remember the chick in GoW 2 with an absolutely perfect vagina...mmmmmmmmmmm Then in the HD remake they changed the scene a bit and hid the beauty. I was disappointed son..........

flexin007
GoW 2, as in the 2 girls in the hot bath greek jacuzzi? They just showed rack. People forgot to mention the original Diablo and the succubi.
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#73 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Ugh, we need to get off having hot chicks who are barely related to the game (looking at you evony) on our ads/covers. Makes the video game industry seems pathetic

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#74 J-man45
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I am fully against it. It's sinful, and it is easily used to manipulate others. How would women feel if they became even more disrespected in video games? Women are not sex objects.

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#75 Gnosis13
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I simply do not see it as an issue. Wanting more of it and seeing it as a problem are both equally infantile, if you ask me.

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#76 Gibsonsg527
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I don't mind it. I also love when the parents or media say that if there is nudity in a particular game their children will be "damaged". Oh please, if your child has internet access chances are there already looking up porn.

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I have no particular qualms about it, assuming it is neccesary within a given story, but most of the time I think developers add in heatedscenes just so people go out and buy it. To me, that is pretty sad. Sorry if I offend anyone by saying that but in my opinion video games are moving into a pretty dire direction whereby the focus is increasingly moving towards sordid exposure.

It bugs me that pretty much every female character in video games these days wear low cut tops exposing oversized busts and generally wear as little as possible. It's unneccesary and is actually more offputting than appealing. I was playing Dragon Origins the other day and a character called Morrigan (I think) was standing in the middle of a warzone having just fought off a legion of men in practically a bikini. Why?

There are too many of these instances in gaming these days. If its neccesary then sure add in a little bit of skin, but most of the time I'd really prefer if there was less skin and more emphasis on story, gameplay and all the other elements that make games fun to play.

If we wanted to see a woman in a bikini for no apparent reason then buy an FHM!

olrion

If you think scantly clad women in video games is something new I'm afraid you are so wrong. Look at the Golden Axe series, the chick has always had a bikini in that game and the guys well needless to say man thongs every where. Look at FF7 and Tifa, another example of scantly clad women is nothing new to video games.

Also scantly clad women in entertainment is nothing new, look up the music video The Zombies "it's the time of season" which was made in 1968 ish, theres more skin in that music video than in most video games.

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#78 Vari3ty
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I much prefer games that do not have nudity. Why? To me, nudity in games has (thus far) come across as really forced and awkward. Even games that don't feature full nudity, such as Mass Effect 2, have romantic moments that just seem really out of place (and laughably bad, really). IGN a week or two even had a an article that contained a link to "Watch Dragon Age 2's laughably bad sex scenes". My point - nudity doesn't belong in games.

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#79 flexin007
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[QUOTE="flexin007"]

I remember the chick in GoW 2 with an absolutely perfect vagina...mmmmmmmmmmm Then in the HD remake they changed the scene a bit and hid the beauty. I was disappointed son..........

multiplat

GoW 2, as in the 2 girls in the hot bath greek jacuzzi? They just showed rack. People forgot to mention the original Diablo and the succubi.

No. The chick was alone and it showed p***y

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#80 Ceraby
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I don't really mind nudity, unless I feel like it's there because the developers were hoping that showing more pixelated skin would boost sales. I usually just sigh or roll my eyes at it though. I do, however, honestly feel uncomfortable if there's a serious sex scene. I'm not young nor am I er..inexperienced, but I do feel embarassed about seeing it. I also get embarassed having to see it on tv or a movie , so it's probably just me.