Online multiplayer is ruining our enjoyment of video games.

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#51 Dencore
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^^^It seems you misunderstand. It wouldn't be like how Neo Geo was when the arcade usually had one, but it would only be one standard type of board. I mean instead of having five HF/CE cabinants they could've just have had five "Capcom" cabients where you could select your game. Basically as many arcade games you see that are from Capcom or Namco in the arcade, would just be a standard board to select your game. Sorry if I sounded harsh but it seemed that you misunderstood my example. If you didn't then we all have our own opinions, I just get pist because I don't have an arcade around me with even Street Fighter. I mean sure I have one that has King of Fighter '98, Capcom vs. SNK 2, Soul Caliber III: Arcade Edition, Tekken Tag Tournament, and Tekken 5. But I want my Street Fighter :cry:

Come to think of it, I actually think that you understood it due to the fact that anyone could select any game they want, so you'd have to wait while people play cruddy games, so I apologize for misunderstanding you. :oops:

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#52 GodModeEnabled
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Are people annoying you online? I would like to introduce you to my friend Mr. Mute, see Mr.Mute is a wonderfull invention that makes all the annoying voices go away. Anytime someone starts annoying me on Live, even a little, mute. I still play my game but I turn off the social aspect and then try again later or whatever. Contrary to popular belief though, I have met and made some cool friends on live.. they are out there. Get a good friends list going and that solves your problem too. Now about Developers skipping on the Single Player to focus on Multiplayer... yeah I hate that too. Halo 2 was a godamn disaster of a single player mode- there I said it.
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#53 ikwal
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You're wrong.
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#54 DarkCatalyst
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Come to think of it, I actually think that you understood it due to the fact that anyone could select any game they want, so you'd have to wait while people play cruddy games, so I apologize for misunderstanding you. :oops:Dencore

Exactly. The current system is actually the best way - if someone wants to play Mega Man: Power Fighters, more power to them - just don't let that mean we're -1 Super Turbo machine while they're doing it.

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#55 DarkCatalyst
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Are people annoying you online? I would like to introduce you to my friend Mr. Mute, see Mr.Mute is a wonderfull invention that makes all the annoying voices go away. Anytime someone starts annoying me on Live, even a little, mute. I still play my game but I turn off the social aspect and then try again later or whatever. Contrary to popular belief though, I have met and made some cool friends on live.. they are out there. Get a good friends list going and that solves your problem too. Now about Developers skipping on the Single Player to focus on Multiplayer... yeah I hate that too. Halo 2 was a godamn disaster of a single player mode- there I said it.GodModeEnabled

I just play with my headset plugged in (to disable straight-to-speakers voice), set aside (to avoid listening to them myself), turned down (so I don't even get little annoying noise from the headset across the table), and muted (so nothing I or my friends/family say goes through).

I have truly perfected the Xbox Live experience.

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#56 Dencore
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]Come to think of it, I actually think that you understood it due to the fact that anyone could select any game they want, so you'd have to wait while people play cruddy games, so I apologize for misunderstanding you. :oops:DarkCatalyst

Exactly. The current system is actually the best way - if someone wants to play Mega Man: Power Fighters, more power to them - just don't let that mean we're -1 Super Turbo machine while they're doing it.

I still think it's the best for the arcades in general, but we all have opinions, if you could or would want to change the arcades to get them back in the scene or just to improve them in general what would you do?

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#57 thrasher1234
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That's your opinion. I personally love online gaming. I don't care if people think gamers are losers. I won't stop playing it just to show them wrong. Online also doesn't prevent you from playing with friends, that's a choice. How can you blame you being lazy and not getting together to play on the devs offering online play? So you think it's their fault for giving us a choice? They should've forced us to play together, right? The devs gave us another choice, it's your decision to play on the internet or play with friends. If you choose the former and ruin your game experience, well that's b/c of your decision, not the devs fault.

I honestly don't see anything in your post except the last one that makes online bad. It seems like you're just someone who's too lazy with friends that are too lazy to get together and that's why you lost alot of fun. But instead of blaming yourself for it, you're blaming it on the online mode.

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wow you just got owned there....I TOTALLY AGREE WITH HIM
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#58 Marty_McFly_
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I remember the good ol days before online was available and all there was was single player. I don't have a huge problem with online but I find it extremely sad that a lot of people don't even buy a game if there's no online.
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#59 DarkCatalyst
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[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"][QUOTE="Dencore"]Come to think of it, I actually think that you understood it due to the fact that anyone could select any game they want, so you'd have to wait while people play cruddy games, so I apologize for misunderstanding you. :oops:Dencore

Exactly. The current system is actually the best way - if someone wants to play Mega Man: Power Fighters, more power to them - just don't let that mean we're -1 Super Turbo machine while they're doing it.

I still think it's the best for the arcades in general, but we all have opinions, if you could or would want to change the arcades to get them back in the scene or just to improve them in general what would you do?

Console-based kiosks with a hard drive and internet connection. Only have one game installed at a time to avoid conflicts. If Capcom, Namco, or whoever wants to switch the games out (or do a CE/HF/NC/ST-style upgrade series), no more need to send anyone over to the place in question or work with messy upgrade kits, just load the game remotely onto the kiosk's hard drive, and you're set.

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#60 Dencore
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Console-based kiosks with a hard drive and internet connection. Only have one game installed at a time to avoid conflicts. If Capcom, Namco, or whoever wants to switch the games out (or do a CE/HF/NC/ST-style upgrade series), no more need to send anyone over to the place in question or work with messy upgrade kits, just load the game remotely onto the kiosk's hard drive, and you're set.

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Intresting. Not to sound like an idiot but I have a few questions.

Would the kiosk LITERALLY Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii? or would they have a different type of cover/case but with the same insides?

Second is kind of obvious, but I assume the internet connection is for online play correct? But what would be the purpose of it since your in an arcade with peopel who want to play from time to time? Is it for those few times their aren't or just to check news and game updates? Or Both?

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#61 fathoms_basic
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Online multiplayer is an inevitable expansion of the industry, and while I personally don't play much online, I understand its benefits. At the same time, I think I understand what the topic poster is saying...but I have a slightly different take.

Thing is, there isn't much to most online multiplayer experiences. The most popular tend to be fast-action or "twitch" games - like FPSs - that don't really require much thinking. Granted, the single-player experience of these same games isn't too different, but at least there's usually a story and sometimes a puzzle or two that keeps the gamer involved. The only downside to this whole new online revolution is pretty simple, I believe- developers might sacrifice effort on a single-player campaign in order to make the online play more robust, and that's a mindset that can certainly become detrimental in the future.

We were just starting to get better written stories, better voice acting, more innovative and original single-player gameplay experiences, etc. Now, while I don't think all this progress will disappear entirely, I do believe a continued emphasis on online gaming can stunt this growth a bit. All of the aforementioned elements don't normally appear in the typical online multiplayer mode, and there are obvious reasons for that (one of which is the startling lack of attention span in many online gamers I've encountered).

Overall, I really don't think it's "ruining our enjoyment" because "enjoyment" is a very subjective term. But on the other hand, if the balance gets too far out of whack - if devs actually begin to slack off on key single-player facets in favor of focusing on online gameplay - I do think that's a problem. It's not necessarily happening at this very moment, but this industry moves at such a ridiculously rapid pace, it could quite literally start to happen by the end of the year and we might not even notice. I have noticed a significant lack of RPGs this generation already, though, and feasibly, that would be one of the first genres to suffer from the increased popularity of online gaming.

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#62 DarkCatalyst
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[QUOTE="DarkCatalyst"]Console-based kiosks with a hard drive and internet connection. Only have one game installed at a time to avoid conflicts. If Capcom, Namco, or whoever wants to switch the games out (or do a CE/HF/NC/ST-style upgrade series), no more need to send anyone over to the place in question or work with messy upgrade kits, just load the game remotely onto the kiosk's hard drive, and you're set.Dencore

Intresting. Not to sound like an idiot but I have a few questions.

Would the kiosk LITERALLY Xbox 360, PS3, or Wii? or would they have a different type of cover/case but with the same insides?

Second is kind of obvious, but I assume the internet connection is for online play correct? But what would be the purpose of it since your in an arcade with peopel who want to play from time to time? Is it for those few times their aren't or just to check news and game updates? Or Both?

1) It would be a console, plain and simple. The way it would work is different (ie: coin-op business model, downloaded software), and that leads me to the answer of the second question.

2) You answered your own question by quoting me. "...no more need to send anyone over ... just load the game remotely onto the kiosk's hard drive..." The internet connection has nothing to do with online play (though it would facilitate things like VF.TV quite nicely), but rather, the ability of the publishers/distributors to remotely assign different games to different kiosks.