RUMOR: Next GTA coming this year! Update: Rockstar says otherwise...

I knew that (well I expected it because GTA III came out in 2001 and one year later Vice City came out). Rockstar already has the engine so it won't take as long and its probably been in development for quite some time already ... lets just hope its set in the 80's and Vice City in the summertime.

Ah hell.................

They going to be very busy through out the entire year if that's true.

But why can't Rock Star do somthing else for a change?

I wouldnt be surprised if we saw a new GTA this year. Like some have mentioned already, we saw Vice City only a year after GTA3. And while San Andreas took two years, Rockstar came out with Manhunt only a year after Vice City and a year before San Andreas. I guess these guys are workoholics.

I wanna see a GTA based in Chicago!

But why can't Rock Star do somthing else for a change?

shemrom

They tried Manhunt, but the media ripped them a new one.

They are also signed on to develop a new PS3 franchise, details of which however even Sony doesnt about. :lol:

Come to think of it, there was a rumour some time ago that the next GTA would release at the end of 2009 and would be set in Vice City. Not to unrealistic, there was only a 1 year gap between GTA 3 and Vice City.

Edit- Here it is:

http://www.rockstarwatch.net/news/362/Rumor-GTAV-to-be-set-in-Vice-City-set-for-release-in-2009/

i very seriously doubt itishoturface

I don't know... by the end of 2009 it will have been a year and a half since GTA4 came out, and if GTA4 hadn't been delayed, it would have been a two year gap. I think it is reasonable to assume that they were in preproduction for the next GTA well before GTA4 came out.

But why can't Rock Star do somthing else for a change?shemrom

You mean like Midnight Club, Manhunt, Bully, The Warriors, Table Tennis?

Anyhoo, I don't really believe any rumors about anything involving Rockstar because it seems their Manhattan HQ is frickin' impenetrable. Nobody knew the setting for Grand Theft Auto IV until the very second Rockstar launched the trailer which broke teh internets. I've yet to see anything leak out of Rockstar. That said, considering that Rockstar North pumped one game per year after Grand Theft Auto III, it's certainly plausible. The engine and most of the tech stuff is up and running.

[QUOTE="ishoturface"]i very seriously doubt itrragnaar

I don't know... by the end of 2009 it will have been a year and a half since GTA4 came out, and if GTA4 hadn't been delayed, it would have been a two year gap. I think it is reasonable to assume that they were in preproduction for the next GTA well before GTA4 came out.

This.

Also, GTA4 was the least buggy GTA game I've played and definitely the most polished. I'm guessing they spent those extra 6 months polishing the heck out of that game, while doing preproduction on the next GTA.

I really hope the sequel isnt set in Vice City though. :(

Anyhoo, I don't really believe any rumors about anything involving Rockstar because it seems their Manhattan HQ is frickin' impenetrable. Nobody knew the setting for Grand Theft Auto IV until the very second Rockstar launched the trailer which broke teh internets. I've yet to see anything leak out of Rockstar. That said, considering that Rockstar North pumped one game per year after Grand Theft Auto III, it's certainly plausible. The engine and most of the tech stuff is up and running.

UpInFlames

This is a very fair point. Rockstar are masters of keeping secrets. I still remember that day when the trailer launched. The internet just up and died, it was fantastic.

I mean if they keep spitting them out like EA games, what sort of variation are we going to expect to the mission structures? I'm not so sure I want this to happen myself.SemiMaster

This is Rockstar though. GTA3 and Vice City felt like very different games to me.

[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]I mean if they keep spitting them out like EA games, what sort of variation are we going to expect to the mission structures? I'm not so sure I want this to happen myself.rragnaar

This is Rockstar though. GTA3 and Vice City felt like very different games to me.

Also, GTA4 was the least buggy GTA game I've played and definitely the most polished.S0lidSnake

When was Grand Theft Auto buggy and unpolished?

[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]

Anyhoo, I don't really believe any rumors about anything involving Rockstar because it seems their Manhattan HQ is frickin' impenetrable. Nobody knew the setting for Grand Theft Auto IV until the very second Rockstar launched the trailer which broke teh internets. I've yet to see anything leak out of Rockstar. That said, considering that Rockstar North pumped one game per year after Grand Theft Auto III, it's certainly plausible. The engine and most of the tech stuff is up and running.

rragnaar

This is a very fair point. Rockstar are masters of keeping secrets. I still remember that day when the trailer launched. The internet just up and died, it was fantastic.

It still rocks!!!

The second 'We're all looking for that special someone" trailer is my favorite though, one of the best trailers ever made IMHO.

"You want my word, you got my word!"

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]Also, GTA4 was the least buggy GTA game I've played and definitely the most polished.UpInFlames

When was Grand Theft Auto buggy and unpolished?

Vice City and San Andreas. It was obvious at times the PS2 couldn't handle it, bad draw distance, choppy frame rate and some bugs I cant exactly remember, but they were there!

[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]Also, GTA4 was the least buggy GTA game I've played and definitely the most polished.S0lidSnake

When was Grand Theft Auto buggy and unpolished?

Vice City and San Andreas. It was obvious at times the PS2 couldn't handle it, bad draw distance, choppy frame rate and some bugs I cant exactly remember, but they were there!

This is all pretty logical. I'm amazed not many people saw how rockstar made their games up until now. They just create a new game from scratch, which is beyond pretty much all other games in a technical standpoint, then the next two games they elaborate on that. In that way, they create more gaming content than they would if they'd do every game from scratch, while still keeping the franchise up to date.

Let's face it after all, GTA4 will be seen as the basis of this gen's GTA games, just like GTA3 last gen. There will be a new vice city and a new san andreas (not exactly new locations though), and they'll be bigger than GTA 4 probably. I can't wait for what rockstar have got planned.

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[QUOTE="SemiMaster"]I mean if they keep spitting them out like EA games, what sort of variation are we going to expect to the mission structures? I'm not so sure I want this to happen myself.SemiMaster

This is Rockstar though. GTA3 and Vice City felt like very different games to me.

GTA4 was their first next gen game, kind of like their launch title. It's tough for the, to include all the features they had worked on for six years last gen in their first attempt at a next gen game. I expect the next GTA to make the same kind of leap Vice City made from GTA3.

GTA 3 was just so mind blowing, and Vice City polished it up to a mirror sheen with a number of gameplay tweaks and a stylish setting. GTA 4 to me felt stale even if the production values were stellar.SemiMaster

I thought Grand Theft Auto III was a really great game, but it wasn't until Vice City until my mind got blown. It was the first truly story-driven entry in the series, its sense of styIe is still unsurpassed and I still feel it had the best missions in the series (Malibu and Film Studio missions = awesomeness). Grand Theft Auto IV was yet another reinvention of the series - as big as Grand Theft Auto III just not as apparant. The changes it ushered are nuanced, subtle, graceful yet just as important. It's without a doubt my second favorite entry in the series.

Also, I don't quite understand the mission variety complaint. I think Grand Theft Auto IV provided lots of variety and some of the missions are just epic.

It's tough for the, to include all the features they had worked on for six years last gen in their first attempt at a next gen game.S0lidSnake

Rockstar deliberately cuts features and implements new ones that fit the gameworld and theme they're going for. There are no property or gang mechanics in Grand Theft Auto IV because it just wouldn't fit in the context of the gameworld in any way. A gangbanger Eastern European immigrant buying properties and extorting protection money? Some people may have wanted Grand Theft Auto IV to be nothing more than San Andreas 2, but that's not how Rockstar operates. Thank goodness for that.

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]It's tough for the, to include all the features they had worked on for six years last gen in their first attempt at a next gen game.UpInFlames

Rockstar deliberately cuts features and implements new ones that fit the gameworld and theme they're going for. There are no property or gang mechanics in Grand Theft Auto IV because it just wouldn't fit in the context of the gameworld in any way. A gangbanger Eastern European immigrant buying properties and extorting protection money? Some people may have wanted Grand Theft Auto IV to be nothing more than San Andreas 2, but that's not how Rockstar operates. Thank goodness for that.

It makes sense when you put it like that.

However, I always thought of GTA as a real life simulation that allowed you to do everything you couldnt in real life.(Such as beating up prostitutes, killing taxi drivers... etc.)

Hopefully they put in a save mechanism for during those annoying agonizingly long multi-part missions.robstx33

I think Grand Theft Auto IV was probably the easiest GTA game yet. The only mission which frustrated me was the last one and only because of a couple questionable design choices. Seriously, having to catch up to someone who is running away from me pretty fast and is being covered by a million goons is not cool. Also, sometimes the game didn't register my motorcycle jump. I agree that there should be more frequent checkpoints or simply the ability to save whenever.

It makes sense when you put it like that.

However, I always thought of GTA as a real life simulation that allowed you to do everything you couldnt in real life.(Such as beating up prostitutes, killing taxi drivers... etc.)

S0lidSnake

[QUOTE="robstx33"]Hopefully they put in a save mechanism for during those annoying agonizingly long multi-part missions.UpInFlames

I think Grand Theft Auto IV was probably the easiest GTA game yet. The only mission which frustrated me was the last one and only because of a couple questionable design choices. Seriously, having to catch up to someone who is running away from me pretty fast and is being covered by a million goons is not cool. Also, sometimes the game didn't register my motorcycle jump. I agree that there should be more frequent checkpoints or simply the ability to save whenever.

The GTA Tokyo part of the rumor is probably a reference to that GTA Pagoda that they trademarked a few years back. What would you guys think of a Yakuza themed GTA? I think it could be great, I just wonder how the language part would work. Yakuza's English voice acting wasn't horrible, so it could work in English, but it would be interesting if it was in Japanese with subtitles, although I don't see Rockstar doing that. I suppose if the main character was a gaijin, they could get away with having the game mostly in English.rragnaar

I dont wanna see them do a Tokyo GTA.... I'm not into the whole Yakuza fad.

However, if Rockstar hires this gaijin.....

for their Tokyo GTA then I'm all over her...... err, I mean it.

[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]It's tough for the, to include all the features they had worked on for six years last gen in their first attempt at a next gen game.S0lidSnake

Rockstar deliberately cuts features and implements new ones that fit the gameworld and theme they're going for. There are no property or gang mechanics in Grand Theft Auto IV because it just wouldn't fit in the context of the gameworld in any way. A gangbanger Eastern European immigrant buying properties and extorting protection money? Some people may have wanted Grand Theft Auto IV to be nothing more than San Andreas 2, but that's not how Rockstar operates. Thank goodness for that.

It makes sense when you put it like that.

However, I always thought of GTA as a real life simulation that allowed you to do everything you couldnt in real life.(Such as beating up prostitutes, killing taxi drivers... etc.)

The GTA Tokyo part of the rumor is probably a reference to that GTA Pagoda that they trademarked a few years back. What would you guys think of a Yakuza themed GTA? I think it could be great, I just wonder how the language part would work. Yakuza's English voice acting wasn't horrible, so it could work in English, but it would be interesting if it was in Japanese with subtitles, although I don't see Rockstar doing that. I suppose if the main character was a gaijin, they could get away with having the game mostly in English.rragnaar

I don't know. Everyone in Japan is, well, Japanese. There are basically no minorities or anything. The entire game would have to be about the Yakuza. Not a bad thing by any means, but a far cry from GTA's implementation of various cultures. What would Grand Theft Auto: Tokyo satirize? Japanese modern culture? It's not like many people really know all that much about Japanese culture, most of the satire would be rather obscure. I think that if Grand Theft Auto ever leaves America, London should be its first stop. You got culture variety, music, styIe, pop culture...everything you need for a true Grand Theft Auto game.

And if this series ever gets to San Andreas size, they should totally do London, Paris and Amsterdam. It makes sense geographically, culturally, criminally and sexually.

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[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]

Rockstar deliberately cuts features and implements new ones that fit the gameworld and theme they're going for. There are no property or gang mechanics in Grand Theft Auto IV because it just wouldn't fit in the context of the gameworld in any way. A gangbanger Eastern European immigrant buying properties and extorting protection money? Some people may have wanted Grand Theft Auto IV to be nothing more than San Andreas 2, but that's not how Rockstar operates. Thank goodness for that.

GodModeEnabled

It makes sense when you put it like that.

However, I always thought of GTA as a real life simulation that allowed you to do everything you couldnt in real life.(Such as beating up prostitutes, killing taxi drivers... etc.)

Can you make some room in that grave? I have a dead taxi driver here who's starting to stink up my car.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]The GTA Tokyo part of the rumor is probably a reference to that GTA Pagoda that they trademarked a few years back. What would you guys think of a Yakuza themed GTA? I think it could be great, I just wonder how the language part would work. Yakuza's English voice acting wasn't horrible, so it could work in English, but it would be interesting if it was in Japanese with subtitles, although I don't see Rockstar doing that. I suppose if the main character was a gaijin, they could get away with having the game mostly in English.UpInFlames

I don't know. Everyone in Japan is, well, Japanese. There are basically no minorities or anything. The entire game would have to be about the Yakuza. Not a bad thing by any means, but a far cry from GTA's implementation of various cultures. What would Grand Theft Auto: Tokyo satirize? Japanese modern culture? It's not like many people really know all that much about Japanese culture, most of the satire would be rather obscure. I think that if Grand Theft Auto ever leaves America, London should be its first stop. You got culture variety, music, styIe, pop culture...everything you need for a true Grand Theft Auto game.

Teh Ghettoway already did London. :P

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]The GTA Tokyo part of the rumor is probably a reference to that GTA Pagoda that they trademarked a few years back. What would you guys think of a Yakuza themed GTA? I think it could be great, I just wonder how the language part would work. Yakuza's English voice acting wasn't horrible, so it could work in English, but it would be interesting if it was in Japanese with subtitles, although I don't see Rockstar doing that. I suppose if the main character was a gaijin, they could get away with having the game mostly in English.UpInFlames

I don't know. Everyone in Japan is, well, Japanese. There are basically no minorities or anything. The entire game would have to be about the Yakuza. Not a bad thing by any means, but a far cry from GTA's implementation of various cultures. What would Grand Theft Auto: Tokyo satirize? Japanese modern culture? It's not like many people really know all that much about Japanese culture, most of the satire would be rather obscure. I think that if Grand Theft Auto ever leaves America, London should be its first stop. You got culture variety, music, styIe, pop culture...everything you need for a true Grand Theft Auto game.

This is very true. A new GTA London would be phenomenal. Part of me wants to see a new GTA location, but after seeing the vast difference between Liberty City in GTA3 and Liberty City in GTA4, I'd be down with another Vice City.

[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]The GTA Tokyo part of the rumor is probably a reference to that GTA Pagoda that they trademarked a few years back. What would you guys think of a Yakuza themed GTA? I think it could be great, I just wonder how the language part would work. Yakuza's English voice acting wasn't horrible, so it could work in English, but it would be interesting if it was in Japanese with subtitles, although I don't see Rockstar doing that. I suppose if the main character was a gaijin, they could get away with having the game mostly in English.S0lidSnake

I don't know. Everyone in Japan is, well, Japanese. There are basically no minorities or anything. The entire game would have to be about the Yakuza. Not a bad thing by any means, but a far cry from GTA's implementation of various cultures. What would Grand Theft Auto: Tokyo satirize? Japanese modern culture? It's not like many people really know all that much about Japanese culture, most of the satire would be rather obscure. I think that if Grand Theft Auto ever leaves America, London should be its first stop. You got culture variety, music, styIe, pop culture...everything you need for a true Grand Theft Auto game.

Teh Ghettoway already failed at making a GTA London clone. :P

Agreed.

Teh Ghettoway already did London. :P S0lidSnake

Yeah, I liked that game, but it's no Grand Theft Auto. Also, Grand Theft Auto did London before The Getaway. :wink:

[QUOTE="UpInFlames"]

[QUOTE="robstx33"]Hopefully they put in a save mechanism for during those annoying agonizingly long multi-part missions.SteelAttack

I think Grand Theft Auto IV was probably the easiest GTA game yet. The only mission which frustrated me was the last one and only because of a couple questionable design choices. Seriously, having to catch up to someone who is running away from me pretty fast and is being covered by a million goons is not cool. Also, sometimes the game didn't register my motorcycle jump. I agree that there should be more frequent checkpoints or simply the ability to save whenever.

[QUOTE="rragnaar"]The GTA Tokyo part of the rumor is probably a reference to that GTA Pagoda that they trademarked a few years back. What would you guys think of a Yakuza themed GTA? I think it could be great, I just wonder how the language part would work. Yakuza's English voice acting wasn't horrible, so it could work in English, but it would be interesting if it was in Japanese with subtitles, although I don't see Rockstar doing that. I suppose if the main character was a gaijin, they could get away with having the game mostly in English.UpInFlames

I don't know. Everyone in Japan is, well, Japanese. There are basically no minorities or anything. The entire game would have to be about the Yakuza. Not a bad thing by any means, but a far cry from GTA's implementation of various cultures. What would Grand Theft Auto: Tokyo satirize? Japanese modern culture? It's not like many people really know all that much about Japanese culture, most of the satire would be rather obscure. I think that if Grand Theft Auto ever leaves America, London should be its first stop. You got culture variety, music, styIe, pop culture...everything you need for a true Grand Theft Auto game.

[QUOTE="S0lidSnake"]Teh Ghettoway already did London. :P UpInFlames

Yeah, I liked that game, but it's no Grand Theft Auto. Also, Grand Theft Auto did London before The Getaway. :wink:

Wow, I didnt know that. It would actually make sense for them to go back and redo it.

I guess I'm with you and ragnaar on this one, a GTA set in London would be phenomenal. Aren't the Rockstar North guys from Scotland? Thatt's not too far from London, and it's Rockstar. If anyone can pull it off, it's them.

I wish Seattle was a more violent and culturally diverse place because a GTA set in the Pacific Northwest would be gorgeous.

I guess I'm with you and ragnaar on this one, a GTA set in London would be phenomenal. Aren't the Rockstar North guys from Scotland? Thatt's not too far from London, and it's Rockstar. If anyone can pull it off, it's them.S0lidSnake

Rockstar North is indeed based in Edinburgh, Scotland. But an even bigger upside to this is the fact that Sam and Dan Houser are born and raised Londoners.

I wish Seattle was a more violent and culturally diverse place because a GTA set in the Pacific Northwest would be gorgeous.

rragnaar

Chicago is more beautiful, more diverse and it's in THE MOST CORRUPT State in the U.S. (Thanks to Al Capone and Rod B.)

Look at the lighting in the Chicago pic! Real World >Real-Time Graphics!

I don't think GTA should ever leave America. The poignant satire that we see in GTA titles seems to be right at home in american (and, to some extent, western) culture and soil, not only because of the social commentary itself, but because of how easy we can recognize it and enjoy it. I think taking GTA out for a ride in other country would take away a good chunk of its universal appeal.SteelAttack

I think London is perhaps the only exception. It even makes sense since they did it before and because a lot of the Rockstar creative force are British-born. Also, it's Rockstar's pattern to re-create the gameworlds. The first Grand Theft Auto featured Liberty City, Vice City and San Andreas all of which were revisited (that goes double for Liberty City). London would work and work real good. Perhaps it wouldn't be as easily recognizable to Americans as it would be to Europeans (most of the American jokes on Britain still revolve around the Queen, drinking tea, cockney accents or some other ****), but I'm positive Rockstar could make it work.